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[@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/twitter/Arthur_van_Pelt)
"Jameson Lopp is an investor in Citrea. Lopp has been fighting and since he couldn't win anyone over blocking Bitcoin Knots fans. Here Lopp explains why Citrea's success depends in large part on Bitcoin Core's v30 OP_RETURN change"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979420944079659042) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-18T05:35Z 8050 followers, 10.2K engagements


"Bitcoin Core v30 is hardly a week or X out and here's the 4th data spammer popping up in my feed. This time they're trying to revive the practically dead Runes environment because of. "a set of upgrades to the Bitcoin L1 infrastructure". Fuck off. Just fuck off. 🖕"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979488572055953627) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-18T10:03Z 8051 followers, 4088 engagements


"@darosior @coryklippsten "which ultimately ends up hurting its "moneyness" properties" No wrong. This has never happened. It's the other way round: abuse of block space as data storage dilutes and hinders the moneyness properties of Bitcoin and such attack should be defended with all means possible"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979731677711909194) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T02:09Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@baclfoo That's why we keep promoting filters to be used by everyone. So gossip and rumours have less chance to spread their cancerous message. It's that simple"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979736069211099358) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T02:27Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@baclfoo @Jethroe111 @lopp Now go through his feed again and look for his attacks on Luke Dashjr and/or Knots. Then go check his number of followers and realize what message he is trying to tell them. Is he a "pusher" for Bitcoin Core v30 yes or no"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979744984313274689) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T03:02Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@baclfoo @theothermjordan Again it's *you* who is misinformed and are willingly spreading misinformation. When Bitcoin Core learned about how Citrea was dealing with the subject they decided to "fix" OP_RETURN. That's a fact"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979753730645098702) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T03:37Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@baclfoo @theothermjordan That's what I also said yes "When Bitcoin Core learned about how Citrea was dealing with the subject they decided to "fix" OP_RETURN. That's a fact." Humble pie anyone"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979758090611228678) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T03:54Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@baclfoo @Jethroe111 @lopp That still doesn't make Knots "retarded". When that design choice is becoming an issue it will be fixed. Meanwhile Core v30 is the utterly retarded choice: it allows for more data spam to be associated with Bitcoin instead of less. Completely retarded"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979759393907585503) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T03:59Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@baclfoo @theothermjordan The conspiracy is (probably) that Citrea paid/bribed Core No idea. Fact remains the OP_RETURN fix was made for Citrea. Or said otherwise: if Citrea had not existed there would most likely not have been an OP_RETURN fix in v30"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979765305959403660) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T04:23Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@baclfoo @theothermjordan Why are you ignoring the talks between Citrea development and Bitcoin Core that "horrified" Bitcoin Core and inspired them to fix OP_RETURN That is literally what Lopp is saying. Now go back in time when Citrea was raised and when we first learned about the OP_RETURN change"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979803779102126135) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T06:56Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@_DavidSFreeman The only thing correct is that spam has always been tried and has succeeded here and there. But it's been a sliding scale of allowing it more and more instead of fighting it properly. It's not harmless. It's disturbing native usage. It doesn't scale. It puts nodes & therefore"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979807161388822867) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T07:09Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@adam3us Calmly yes. Hats off for that many should take that attitude as example (including the undersigned). But making sense. let's say I calmly respectfully but firmly disagree with that part"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979823322293842246) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T08:13Z 8051 followers, 2061 engagements


"@adam3us @Excellion @NickSzabo4 @satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco This whole exercise has been a risk assessment for me anyway. I see less to no risk in filters harming scaling decentralization & censorship resistance while I see way more risks in Bitcoin changing into a data storage platform and people apologizing for it too"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979830036124651684) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T08:40Z 8050 followers, XXX engagements


"@adam3us Well what I'm noticing is that many in the group that I call "data spam apologists" are actually against data spam but have reached a sort of defeatism state where they don't bother too much anymore and defend not the data spam but their defeatism. I hope they find"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979832286595137827) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T08:49Z 8050 followers, XXX engagements


"@mhclinics Inscriptions & Runes is blockchain abuse of a project that is called a Electronic Cash System. Hard and cold exclusion of that data spam is essential for Bitcoin becoming Reserve Currency long term. That's why Satoshi said "networks need to have separate fates""  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979836378918871050) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T09:05Z 8051 followers, 1119 engagements


"@mhclinics Of course you are a very worthy part of the Bitcoin community you're mining you're running a node. but I'm not supporting your stances about Inscriptions and Runes and that type of garbage. That's all. 🙂"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979839334196052395) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T09:17Z 8050 followers, XXX engagements


"@_DavidSFreeman It does matter actually. We're carrying XXX GB in extra garbage data around on a blockchain of total what is it now XXX GB That's only Ordinals & Runes. So at least XX% of the Bitcoin blockchain is garbage"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979840872603902139) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T09:23Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@ArgenTo46 @stephanlivera Satoshi build an Electronic Cash System that supports a few tiny data fields (including that block header still in use) up to 40-120 bytes. All other additional arbitrary data he firmly rejected. Blocksize should therefore remain related to growth in native Bitcoin transactions"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979842542142435382) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T09:30Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@adam3us That might be true but I want to hear them again when an unfriendly hacker or Nation State with resources suddenly pumps Bitcoin full of CSAM either in OP_RETURN (prunable) or elsewhere (not prunable). I will immediately stop running a node when that happens. Many with me"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979843660515848387) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T09:34Z 8051 followers, XXX engagements


"@adam3us @BitMEXResearch Sure but this is not 2010 anymore. Satoshi released a Cash System with few tiny data fields up to 40-120 bytes only and he was firmly against additional arbitrary data for reasons that still stand strong. Fast forward now we have OP_RETURN of 1000 times these numbers"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979849445652218312) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T09:57Z 8052 followers, XXX engagements


"@AnonCryptoGuy2 @WallStreetMoon No X times wrong. ETH started trading at $XXXX is now $4000 that's 10526x. BTC started trading at $XXXXX is now $110000 that's 110000000x. You want me to continue"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980156875896184942) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T06:19Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@AnonCryptoGuy2 @WallStreetMoon Since it's inception Bitcoin has waaaaay outperformed ETH and since 2017 till today Bitcoin has waaaaay outperformed ETH. The one cherry picking a few hopium timeframes is you. So you can include the X years that ETH outperformed"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980165340652023871) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T06:53Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@aeonBTC @petrijaervinen @NickSzabo4 "data that I want" You seriously don't want "data" from spammers that attack Bitcoin and you don't want to help them abuse the Bitcoin blockchain by trying to store non-native Bitcoin transactions and help them to change Bitcoin into a data spam Dropbox. Or do you"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980198766264369277) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T09:05Z 8050 followers, XXX engagements


"@BitcoinEsVe Bitcoin doesn't care. There's no Bitcoin code checking that when it comes to mempool policy and creating the longest chain (accepting verifying and relaying transactions and - blocks)"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980464978189775278) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T02:43Z 8052 followers, XX engagements


"@taipancapital @14g23h34 @adam3us @nilskp @LukeDashjr @BitMEXResearch @Excellion @NickSzabo4 @zamir591582 @satflation @jabulanijakes @ToneVays Yes that is my point exactly: a malicious attacker will try to get it his way and that's why we should NEVER surrender to the idea that we can't do anything about it because "muh censorship" and whatever excuses there are"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980532447210271058) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T07:11Z 8052 followers, XX engagements


"@baclfoo @HashBalls23 @_DavidSFreeman @NickSzabo4 Yes I do actually know that because I'm using Lightning Network as an example. They have well defined how the anchor with Bitcoin works and they kept all arbitrary data off-chain too. Well done"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980583482897399815) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T10:34Z 8054 followers, XX engagements


""Whether or not you want the law the law wants you -- to follow it." - @NickSzabo4 And also: "Reputation comes on foot and leaves on horseback" - Dutch proverb That's why we should reject all additional arbitrary data. Because Bitcoin is remember. drum roll. immutable"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980365775996412251) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T20:09Z 8054 followers, 11.7K engagements


"@adam3us @brentkearney That's also possible of course. Both the Ordinals and Runes communicates feel encouraged now though with the OP_RETURN change to revive their spam efforts. Let's see if we can find that back - or not - in the numbers in the upcoming months"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980889932358156537) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-22T06:52Z 8054 followers, XXX engagements


"@HashBalls23 @NickSzabo4 What you don't seem to understand: this is not a technical war against data spam alone. To address data spam we need the right mindset of users miners nodes and developers. #RunningKnots is therefore both a social signal and a technical signal at once"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980501308882006194) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T05:08Z 8054 followers, XXX engagements


"@HashBalls23 @NickSzabo4 Satoshi made Bitcoin to be an Electronic Cash System not a data spam Dropbox. He was firmly against additional arbitrary data. It's that simple. Bitcoin is only for native financial transactions"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980519344741204109) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T06:19Z 8054 followers, 8789 engagements


"This is another way of saying: Bitcoin Core's mindset is counterproductive counterintuitive and basically completely wrong. The cold hard merciless focus should be: Bitcoin is money so less not more additional arbitrary data should be allowed in the Bitcoin blockchain"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980975478199484737) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-22T12:32Z 8054 followers, XXX engagements


""Filters are not effective at stopping transactions people want to make." Stop lying. They are not perfect but they are very effective. It has a reason that many Bitcoiners are attacking us filterboys for running filters. If these filters were not effective you would ignore us"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980129443080499549) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T04:30Z 8053 followers, 1907 engagements


"@THBitcoinBuddha vibe* Nick Szabo his Bitcoin stances remain top notch meanwhile though"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980887936510955652) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-22T06:44Z 8054 followers, XX engagements


"@baclfoo @GrassFedBitcoin "consensus is not decided by nodes""  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980891773044949466) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-22T06:59Z 8053 followers, XX engagements


"Don't tell me. Yes I'm telling you that the latest Bitcoin Knots version released a day after Bitcoin Core v30 is currently the most popular upgrade. #RunningKnots"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980202618074079626) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T09:21Z 8054 followers, 5453 engagements


"Bad take by @notgrubles. PirateBay has been taken down several times over the years in 2014 even so hard that the founders (who all have been doing jailtime) thought they wouldn't come back. Bitcoin will not be Reserve Currency with such legacy and reputation"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1981003931863097520) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-22T14:25Z 8054 followers, XXX engagements


"@adam3us that spark again to start pressing for data spam rejection socially and technically instead of data spam apologizing. Because seriously most agree that Bitcoin is money not a data spam Dropbox. Then we should join forces again and fight data spam I think"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979833138772873666) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T08:52Z 8052 followers, XXX engagements


"@BitMEXResearch @edprospero23 These "millions of Runes" didn't make it into the Bitcoin blockchain though. Can you guess why that is"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980127165673771111) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T04:21Z 8052 followers, XXX engagements


"@aeonBTC @petrijaervinen @NickSzabo4 The point is also that there is literally nothing you can do about how people use their mempool filters (on a signal trajectory to create or finetune consensus rules) to help protect precious Bitcoin blockspace against disgusting contamination"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980133151742836782) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T04:45Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@brentkearney Bitcoin Knots ramped up in August this year. We saw an immediate drop of over XX% of Runes & Ordinals going into the Bitcoin blockchain. Is it related I think so. Transactions provably got stuck and disappeared from the mempool after mempoolexpiry timeframe"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980134373719437526) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T04:49Z 8051 followers, XXX engagements


"@brentkearney At all times we luckily see less abuse and that's a good thing. All efforts social and technical help to stop contaminating the blockchain. That has nothing to do with "wishful thinking". That has to do with fighting data spam with all means possible"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980138066586263618) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T05:04Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"The weirdest flex in the Spam Wars I've seen so far. Instead of sending the Ordinals Runes Stamps etc spammers to Ethereum where they belong now the filterboys like me who are defending Bitcoin as money-only platform have to move there Weird lol"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980143274884043049) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T05:25Z 8051 followers, 2219 engagements


"@brentkearney Yes agree. This is how we figured out that Bitcoin has also a form of social consensus involving economic nodes in the lead and technical consensus with all nodes being equal according the X CPU is X vote principle"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980145141278253362) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T05:32Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@Gaster_34 @cz_binance @PeterSchiff Bitcoin is owned by over XXX million people already. Keep up. 😘"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980146036468588962) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T05:36Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@AnonCryptoGuy2 @WallStreetMoon Ethereum remains a long term shitcoin despite a short term death gasp. Gold has never outperformed Bitcoin and it will never outperform either. If I had bought $XXX in gold and $XXX in Bitcoin on January X 2011 I would have $XXX in gold now and $36000000 in Bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980151191008072175) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T05:56Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"bitcoin is not a data spam storage"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980152935301439625) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T06:03Z 8051 followers, 1035 engagements


"@AnonCryptoGuy2 @WallStreetMoon Shitcoin ETH isn't decentralized at all. PoS is centralized governance is fully centralized development is fully centralized. And Bitcoin Core is as you can see in the debates and people who voluntarily choose Core v30 *or not* is not changing anything"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980157853999501691) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T06:23Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@AnonCryptoGuy2 @WallStreetMoon "for as long as Ethereum has existed" Stop lying. I just showed you the numbers. Shitcoin ETH never outperformed Bitcoin. They only outperformed a few other shitcoins. In 2017 ETH was XXXX BTC. This year it tanked below XXXX BTC. Go figure with your shitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980159209338802589) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T06:28Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@AnonCryptoGuy2 @WallStreetMoon No I used numbers since 2017. ETH hyped a few times between start and 2017 when it reached XXXX BTC. That was the top. Since then shitcoin ETH tanked to below XXXX BTC a few months ago. You cannot deny that. That's a dump of 88%. Because ETH is a shitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980162027986604146) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T06:39Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@AnonCryptoGuy2 @WallStreetMoon Miners decide nothing miners only create blocks. They offer these blocks to *all nodes* who verify these blocks and they decide (again X CPU is X vote principle) if the blocks are added to the blockchain or not. You seriously have no idea how Bitcoin works do you"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980162873835065607) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T06:43Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@AnonCryptoGuy2 @WallStreetMoon Of that last decade shitcoin ETH has been tanking XX% in the last X years against Bitcoin. That last decade had X up years X down years. You cannot deny that"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980163525726331263) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T06:45Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@AnonCryptoGuy2 @WallStreetMoon No for the last X years the world is figuring out that ETH is a shitcoin. World computer Dump. Sound money Dump. Merge Dump. ETFs Dump. Nothing stops the demise of ETH. Because ETH is at best a worthless utility token used for rug pulls running into the billions"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980164447810506926) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T06:49Z 8052 followers, XX engagements


"@w_s_bitcoin Technically @WesterWolfgang is correct. OGs are people *daily* involved with Bitcoin in the years 2008-2011. Adam joined Bitcoin in 2013. So you're making a non-issue from a non-event. Typical data spam apologist behavior I must say because on content you can't win anymore"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980171992809783568) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T07:19Z 8050 followers, XXX engagements


"@AnonCryptoGuy2 @WallStreetMoon Bitcoin is actually a great store of value. That why you see 100s of enterprises etc use it as treasury countries use it as legal tender and did you know that the Bitcoin spot ETFs is by far the most successful ETF of all times"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980174215446950201) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T07:28Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@aeonBTC @petrijaervinen @NickSzabo4 Sigh. Here we go again. For the umpteenth time: Blocking and rejecting native Bitcoin transactions is censorship. That's not what we are doing. We are filtering contamination rejecting data spam attacks that abuse the Bitcoin blockchain as data storage only"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980186059494330617) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T08:15Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@AnonCryptoGuy2 @WallStreetMoon Sure. I'll give you that temporary phenomenon with pleasure just like ETH has a little death gasp this year from XXXX BTC to XXXX BTC (but is tanking again already). Now look at Bitcoin's overall performance please"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980186649876177183) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T08:17Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


""data that I want" You seriously don't want "data" from spammers that attack Bitcoin and you don't want to help them abuse the Bitcoin blockchain by trying to store non-native Bitcoin transactions and help them to change Bitcoin into a data spam Dropbox. Or do you"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980200007329571007) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T09:10Z 8051 followers, 1427 engagements


"@baclfoo And you still cannot explain how Ordinals and Runes dropped another XX% in August this year and stayed there when Bitcoin Knots came up. You also cannot explain why there are known instances of stuck transactions that disappear after the mempoolexpiry timeframe"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980214671023219176) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T10:09Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


""Bitcoin's p2p relay network is not bitcoin." They're not sending their best into the arena do they 😂"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980215937841443225) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T10:14Z 8051 followers, XXX engagements


"@HashBalls23 @NickSzabo4 "i can't reject additional arbitrary data" I'm #RunningKnots and I can"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980465782275600490) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T02:46Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


""Clearly Bitcoin isn't immutable. Its blockchain is not." 🤦♂"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980476865434599696) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T03:30Z 8050 followers, XXX engagements


"@BitcoinEsVe No miners create blocks. Nodes verify those blocks after the miners send them to all nodes. After verification these blocks are added to the longest chain and relayed (or not). Miners have no influence on this process except for staying in lockstep with the nodes otherwise"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980477971610902584) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T03:35Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@BitcoinEsVe they lose their block subsidy and mining fees. It are the nodes who determine and create majority consensus for the longest chain not the miners. The miners only service the network with blocks that's all"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980478454824071536) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T03:37Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@BitcoinEsVe lol you clearly have no idea how Bitcoin works. When all nodes reject a mined block the miner has forked off and can't sell his block subsidy because the exchange node (one of your "home nodes") doesn't accept the miners block remember Please go study Bitcoin more"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980489045705912619) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T04:19Z 8052 followers, XX engagements


"@BitcoinEsVe Again complete nonsense. You have no idea how Bitcoin works. Simply no idea. Please go read Andreas Antonopoulos - Mastering Bitcoin the section about mining nodes full nodes and "Emerging Consensus". And stop spreading that incompetent nonsense please"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980497671027847403) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T04:53Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@BitcoinEsVe I look forward to you finally understanding Bitcoin and especially understanding that nodes - not miners -determine majority consensus according the X CPU is X vote principle. Miners create blocks nodes verify approve and relay blocks (or not). Learn Draco learn"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980508041406493092) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T05:34Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@BitcoinEsVe And talking about forks: it will be the data spammers who need to fork as they are the abusers of Bitcoin. Bitcoin Knots is just one of several tools to kick them out"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980508440943583627) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T05:36Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@BitcoinEsVe Yes there's literally X steps and you can't be bothered to *understand* them. Where Satoshi says blocks are sent to ALL NODES he means ALL NODES. That includes full nodes (what you called home nodes). That step in the process has always been there"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980512932145361167) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T05:54Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@BitcoinEsVe There has never been a check in the Bitcoin code that excludes full (non-mining) nodes from receiving verifying approving and relaying blocks from miners. A node hosts a blockchain that's all. It can be mining but that's optional"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980514220539089129) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T05:59Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@BitcoinEsVe My Raspberry Pi node hosts a full blockchain. It receives blocks from miners and verifies them. When I and my fellow nodes reject a mined block the miner of it is fucked because he forked off. This is not rocket science Draco"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980515929281950120) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T06:06Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@taipancapital @14g23h34 @adam3us @nilskp @LukeDashjr @BitMEXResearch @Excellion @NickSzabo4 @zamir591582 @satflation @jabulanijakes @ToneVays Dude please you're not that dumb. We're talking about *HOSTING AND SPREADING*. PirateBay was raided because they HOSTED AND SPREADED copyrighted material. Everyone HOSTING AND SPREADING CSAM is liable"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980518266687877361) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T06:15Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@BitcoinEsVe You didn't mention exchangeS you only mentioned X exchange (Binance) who once suggested something that they immediately realized makes no sense because. it takes all full nodes to make a change"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980519990894936326) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T06:22Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@_DavidSFreeman @NickSzabo4 @HashBalls23 What do you consider "arbitrary" in scripting Satoshi created Script to be deliberately constrained to ensure security and predictability and he was actually avoiding arbitrary or general-purpose computation possibilities. For example Bitcoin Script is not Turing Complete"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980524462509322677) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T06:40Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@taipancapital @14g23h34 @adam3us @nilskp @LukeDashjr @BitMEXResearch @Excellion @NickSzabo4 @zamir591582 @satflation @jabulanijakes @ToneVays No there is currently no illegal material in Bitcoin. There's a disputed image that has bothered no one so far and there are 100s of links to (now defunct) CSAM storage. None of this is illegal"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980527757550583939) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T06:53Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@taipancapital @14g23h34 @adam3us @nilskp @LukeDashjr @BitMEXResearch @Excellion @NickSzabo4 @zamir591582 @satflation @jabulanijakes @ToneVays "Classified" material bothers hardly anyone. It is my firm opinion though that when it comes to CSAM data not only nodes but also parents courts and law enforcement will go join forces to have it deleted to avoid hosting and spreading of it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980529804328775773) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T07:01Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@taipancapital @14g23h34 @adam3us @nilskp @LukeDashjr @BitMEXResearch @Excellion @NickSzabo4 @zamir591582 @satflation @jabulanijakes @ToneVays I see it the other way round. Bitcoin is money not data spam storage. Satoshi agrees. So we should work towards rejecting all unnecesary and additional arbitrary data in the blockchain. Automatically that also avoids issues with copyrighted and other illegal data"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980530829601493030) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T07:05Z 8052 followers, XX engagements


"@taipancapital @14g23h34 @adam3us @nilskp @LukeDashjr @BitMEXResearch @Excellion @NickSzabo4 @zamir591582 @satflation @jabulanijakes @ToneVays All these things are not a reason to not try to avoid and reject data spam"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980532705189326861) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T07:12Z 8052 followers, XX engagements


"@taipancapital @14g23h34 @adam3us @nilskp @LukeDashjr @BitMEXResearch @Excellion @NickSzabo4 @zamir591582 @satflation @jabulanijakes @ToneVays Satoshi his arguments about "doesn't scale networks need to have separate fates keep the chain small for users and small devices" still stand strong and remain worthwhile mentioning"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980533261831983585) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T07:15Z 8052 followers, XX engagements


"@taipancapital @14g23h34 @adam3us @nilskp @LukeDashjr @BitMEXResearch @Excellion @NickSzabo4 @zamir591582 @satflation @jabulanijakes @ToneVays We certainly disagree and very firmly even. Because literally no one is censoring native Bitcoin financial transactions. We are filtering contamination and that has NOTHING to do whatsoever with censorship. That's just a lame excuse to avoid addressing data spam"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980533859528896722) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T07:17Z 8052 followers, XX engagements


"@baclfoo @_DavidSFreeman @NickSzabo4 @HashBalls23 That would not be a native Bitcoin financial transaction and should thus be avoided"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980542866251186562) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T07:53Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@baclfoo @_DavidSFreeman @NickSzabo4 @HashBalls23 That would not be a native Bitcoin financial transaction and should thus be avoided"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980543261786992781) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T07:54Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@_colourorange @baclfoo @_DavidSFreeman @NickSzabo4 @HashBalls23 It's about being small yes and about being related to a Bitcoin native financial transaction type (at that point in time it was apparently only the "third" transaction type)"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980548600573874338) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T08:15Z 8052 followers, XX engagements


"@baclfoo @HashBalls23 @_DavidSFreeman @NickSzabo4 It's not difficult. A native Bitcoin financial transaction doesn't need arbitrary data because it is simply a Bitcoin transaction from user A to user B. Everything else is spam unless proven otherwise. Miners using the Coinbase text field is pretty well defined also"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980555522160959715) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T08:43Z 8052 followers, XX engagements


"@HashBalls23 @baclfoo @_DavidSFreeman @NickSzabo4 Indeed. And that building included ferociously hunting for and taking down places that are hosting CSAM. And that's the whole point: we should not be naive thinking that Bitcoin will escape that if it wants to mingle in with what has been build"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980556934282449291) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T08:49Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@HashBalls23 @baclfoo @_DavidSFreeman @NickSzabo4 I would summarize that as follows: I accept that a person can use Bitcoin for any type of payment but I do not accept that Bitcoin is abused as a data storage"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980557969201967144) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T08:53Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@HashBalls23 @baclfoo @_DavidSFreeman @NickSzabo4 Yes I firmly defend that all people can make any financial transaction. Bitcoin is and should remain blind for the content of the transaction just as a dollar bill is not aware if it's used for a coffee or a heroin transaction"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980581840080740680) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T10:28Z 8052 followers, XX engagements


"@HashBalls23 @baclfoo @_DavidSFreeman @NickSzabo4 And Bitcoin is not supposed to be the Ethereum killer Ethereum is well suited (and in the process) to kill itself. Satoshi said "networks need to have separate fates". All things Ethereum can and will be build *on Bitcoin* not *in Bitcoin*. See the difference"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980582325349228631) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T10:29Z 8051 followers, XX engagements


"@baclfoo @wk057 @Du_Bi_Bo @adam3us @mpenagar @cguida @jimmysong @Exellion @GrassFedBitcoin @LukeDashjr @ToneVays What you don't seem to grasp is that running filters is *also* part of consensus. It's running software with adjustable settings just like running protocol rules with adjustable settings. When there would be majority consensus for filters there would have been less data spam"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980886839851446475) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-22T06:40Z 8052 followers, XX engagements


"Adam Back Nick Szabo Samson Mow. The Bitcoin data spam debates in a nutshell"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1979749317704663234) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-19T03:19Z 8052 followers, 35.2K engagements


"@Anthony_Danger @w_s_bitcoin @WesterWolfgang lol dude. There are several people mentioned in the Bitcoin whitepaper. Are they all Bitcoin OGs because they are. mentioned in the Bitcoin whitepaper No of course not. I would love to give Adam Back all kinds of Bitcoin laureates but OG is *not* one of them I'm afraid"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980304609903354330) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-20T16:06Z 8053 followers, XX engagements


"@SnarkyAlien @wk057 @adam3us @cguida @jimmysong @Exellion @GrassFedBitcoin @LukeDashjr @ToneVays No he isn't. OP_RETURN was introduced as a control flow operator in 2009 when Bitcoin went live. OP_RETURN was never intended to store any arbitrary data"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980695871693177187) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-21T18:01Z 8052 followers, XX engagements


"@baclfoo @wk057 @Du_Bi_Bo @adam3us @mpenagar @cguida @jimmysong @Exellion @GrassFedBitcoin @LukeDashjr @ToneVays Teaching people like you that arbitrary data doesn't belong in Bitcoin and that it's also a good idea to filter before arbitrary data enters the blockchain is part of the mission. Unfortunately there are a few people like you who apologize for data spam instead of fight it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980858405393953111) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-22T04:47Z 8050 followers, XX engagements


"@baclfoo @wk057 @Du_Bi_Bo @adam3us @mpenagar @cguida @jimmysong @Exellion @GrassFedBitcoin @LukeDashjr @ToneVays "it's how nodes stay in agreement ie consensus" Exactly. And that staying in agreement is happening with compatible software with rules and filters"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1980888995791069489) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-22T06:48Z 8052 followers, XX engagements


"@baclfoo @VaasCrypto @NickSzabo4 If so I wouldn't share these sentiments (because I love India) but I don't share many sentiments outside Bitcoin with Luke Dashjr and many other Bitcoiners also so I'm totally fine with it lol"  
[X Link](https://x.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1981023197588795804) [@Arthur_van_Pelt](/creator/x/Arthur_van_Pelt) 2025-10-22T15:41Z 8052 followers, XX engagements