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Created: 2025-07-25 21:42:15 UTC

Ackman's shorts highlighted existing issues but didn't directly cause losses or layoffs; the 2008 crisis did for MBIA/GSEs, while Herbalife endured.

- MBIA: ~$2.7B losses in 2008; ~150 jobs cut (est.).

- Fannie/Freddie: $265B combined losses 2008-2012; ~2,000+ jobs lost each.

- Herbalife: $200M FTC settlement; no major job losses.

Totals: ~4,150 jobs, $268B losses, mostly crisis-driven.


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