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![cloneofsimo Avatar](https://lunarcrush.com/gi/w:24/cr:twitter::1529156127006392320.png) Simo Ryu [@cloneofsimo](/creator/twitter/cloneofsimo) on x 14.6K followers
Created: 2025-07-25 20:59:48 UTC

Here is what people mean by "residual network makes your gradient happy" + intuition on depth muP
Gradients vanish if activations are not unit-scaled. But thats not issue if you are using residual connection!
But if you don't scale down branch, your activations / backward blow up!

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cloneofsimo Avatar Simo Ryu @cloneofsimo on x 14.6K followers Created: 2025-07-25 20:59:48 UTC

Here is what people mean by "residual network makes your gradient happy" + intuition on depth muP Gradients vanish if activations are not unit-scaled. But thats not issue if you are using residual connection! But if you don't scale down branch, your activations / backward blow up!

XXXXXX engagements

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