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![JamesMartinSJ Avatar](https://lunarcrush.com/gi/w:24/cr:twitter::226320142.png) James Martin, SJ [@JamesMartinSJ](/creator/twitter/JamesMartinSJ) on x 282.6K followers
Created: 2025-07-23 13:47:57 UTC

I really enjoyed my conversation with Archbishop Charles Jason Gordon of Trinidad and Tobago on the latest episode of "The Spiritual Life" at @americamag. His description of his encounter with desolation was so helpful. But what is desolation? 

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