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Created: 2025-07-22 13:06:19 UTC

1- Debt under Madani is still higher than Najib’s era. Why?
Answer-
Because 2023–25 is not 2016–18.
Najib never faced-
-Global inflation crisis
-Post-Covid recovery cost
-Diesel subsidy reform
-Rising global bond yields
-War-driven oil volatility
Najib’s lowest was RM17.9b (2016), but by 2018 it was already RM54.2b.
So debt tripled in just X years - & that was without a global crisis.
Meanwhile, Madani-
2022- RM99.8b (inherited)
2023- RM92.9b
2024- RM76.8b
2025 (YTD)- RM81.3b
- Clear downward trend - even under tighter global conditions.
The comparison is not apples-to-apples.
- 2- The drop in 2024 was only possible due to one-off revenues (KWAP, BNM, Bandar Malaysia).
Answer-
- Yes - & that’s called fiscal strategy, not luck.
-KWAP, BNM, Unclaimed Monies = legally permitted transfers
-Bandar Malaysia = asset monetisation - not borrowed money
Why is using available resources to reduce debt suddenly a bad thing?
Najib sold strategic lands too - but debt still ballooned.
- Better to use one-offs to reduce borrowing than to tax blindly or borrow blindly.
- 3-But Rakyat had to pay more- SST, CGT, LVGT, electricity, diesel.
Answer-
- Yes — but these reforms were long overdue-
-SST- from X% → X% (Jan 2024)
-CGT & LVGT- target capital gains, not average rakyat
-Diesel- targeted subsidy saves RM4b/month
-Electricity & water tariffs- affects M40/T20 more than B40
-Meanwhile, under Najib-
-BR1M = Vote candy
-Fuel subsidies = blanket, inefficient
-No structural reform - just debt-funded populism
- Madani is taking the harder but necessary path. Rakyat paid more - but for long-term savings.
- 4- In 2022, debt was high but debt-to-GDP fell to 60.2%. Now under DSAI, it rose to 64.8%.
Answer-
- Correct — but context matters.
-2022 GDP growth- XXX% (post-Covid rebound)
-2023 GDP- XXX% (global slowdown)
-2024 GDP projection- XXX%
So even modest borrowing caused the ratio to rise.
Still, debt-to-GDP in 2024 = 64.8%, which is-
-Below the XX% statutory limit under FRA 2023
- Madani stayed within the legal cap despite tighter revenue & slower global growth.
 -5- As of July 2025, debt is already RM81.3b - higher than 2024 total. 
-Fitch warned overspending.
Answer-
- Yes - 2025 is trending up.
But let’s be factual-
-RM81.3b is still lower than 2020 (RM86.6b), 2021 (RM100.2b), & 2022 (RM99.8b)
-2025 borrowing is mainly for CapEx, not operational deficits (e.g. MRT3, flood mitigation, 5G)
-Fitch warning = normal fiscal caution
-No downgrade issued - Malaysia still BBB+ stable
- Fiscal discipline isn’t just about number size - it’s about where the money goes & whether it’s legal.
 
Eric, here’s the truth - no spin-
- New debt under Madani is dropping, year by year
- 2024’s drop was from deliberate strategic revenues
- Reforms are painful, but system-fixing, not vote-buying
- Debt-to-GDP is below XX% ceiling (FRA 2023)
- 2025 debt rise is real - but still below Covid-era highs
- Fitch issued a caution - not a downgrade.
If you want to debate debt, do it fully.
Don’t cherry-pick bars on a graph while ignoring economic realities.


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ksampoh Avatar ksampoh@MyOwn Inc @ksampoh on x XXX followers Created: 2025-07-22 13:06:19 UTC

1- Debt under Madani is still higher than Najib’s era. Why? Answer- Because 2023–25 is not 2016–18. Najib never faced- -Global inflation crisis -Post-Covid recovery cost -Diesel subsidy reform -Rising global bond yields -War-driven oil volatility Najib’s lowest was RM17.9b (2016), but by 2018 it was already RM54.2b. So debt tripled in just X years - & that was without a global crisis. Meanwhile, Madani- 2022- RM99.8b (inherited) 2023- RM92.9b 2024- RM76.8b 2025 (YTD)- RM81.3b

  • Clear downward trend - even under tighter global conditions. The comparison is not apples-to-apples.
  • 2- The drop in 2024 was only possible due to one-off revenues (KWAP, BNM, Bandar Malaysia). Answer-
  • Yes - & that’s called fiscal strategy, not luck. -KWAP, BNM, Unclaimed Monies = legally permitted transfers -Bandar Malaysia = asset monetisation - not borrowed money Why is using available resources to reduce debt suddenly a bad thing? Najib sold strategic lands too - but debt still ballooned.
  • Better to use one-offs to reduce borrowing than to tax blindly or borrow blindly.
  • 3-But Rakyat had to pay more- SST, CGT, LVGT, electricity, diesel. Answer-
  • Yes — but these reforms were long overdue- -SST- from X% → X% (Jan 2024) -CGT & LVGT- target capital gains, not average rakyat -Diesel- targeted subsidy saves RM4b/month -Electricity & water tariffs- affects M40/T20 more than B40 -Meanwhile, under Najib- -BR1M = Vote candy -Fuel subsidies = blanket, inefficient -No structural reform - just debt-funded populism
  • Madani is taking the harder but necessary path. Rakyat paid more - but for long-term savings.
  • 4- In 2022, debt was high but debt-to-GDP fell to 60.2%. Now under DSAI, it rose to 64.8%. Answer-
  • Correct — but context matters. -2022 GDP growth- XXX% (post-Covid rebound) -2023 GDP- XXX% (global slowdown) -2024 GDP projection- XXX% So even modest borrowing caused the ratio to rise. Still, debt-to-GDP in 2024 = 64.8%, which is- -Below the XX% statutory limit under FRA 2023
  • Madani stayed within the legal cap despite tighter revenue & slower global growth. -5- As of July 2025, debt is already RM81.3b - higher than 2024 total. -Fitch warned overspending. Answer-
  • Yes - 2025 is trending up. But let’s be factual- -RM81.3b is still lower than 2020 (RM86.6b), 2021 (RM100.2b), & 2022 (RM99.8b) -2025 borrowing is mainly for CapEx, not operational deficits (e.g. MRT3, flood mitigation, 5G) -Fitch warning = normal fiscal caution -No downgrade issued - Malaysia still BBB+ stable
  • Fiscal discipline isn’t just about number size - it’s about where the money goes & whether it’s legal.

Eric, here’s the truth - no spin-

  • New debt under Madani is dropping, year by year
  • 2024’s drop was from deliberate strategic revenues
  • Reforms are painful, but system-fixing, not vote-buying
  • Debt-to-GDP is below XX% ceiling (FRA 2023)
  • 2025 debt rise is real - but still below Covid-era highs
  • Fitch issued a caution - not a downgrade. If you want to debate debt, do it fully. Don’t cherry-pick bars on a graph while ignoring economic realities.

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