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Created: 2025-07-22 09:19:47 UTC

reflecting on the role of art
in the coming agi era
in the agentic age
in web4
also reflecting on inherent creativity in human nature

some thoughts, disjointed, abstract
open for interpretation, intended for introspection

from my notes app
not spell checked or formal

//

thoughts 7/20 to 7/21/25

there will be a freedom
our children will one day take for granted,
where every human alive can create with ai

art is a matter of choice not 

the next billion onboarded to music
will be creators, not just consumers

to those who dare to have vision, heart, hope
& limited by resources for training or tools:
a revolution is coming
(damn near the Red Revolution the way we're seizing the means of media production!)

express yourself
- in any medium
- in any character
- in any voice
- in any genre
- in any language
- in any reality you can generate

it's personal for me
had to grind to prestigious uni, grind leetcode trying to get to maang, overwork at every position i got, etc.
even going back to when i was working retail, dishwasher, doordash, amazon warehouse
i dedicated most my life just to ensure i could feed myself and fam
i'm sure most of the world can relate

massive tradeoff in time i spent cultivating my creativity;
that goes for everyone who is in the same boat

but that's just how the real world works
( it's just tragic that beauty is often the cost of survival, and of course, most of the world's suffering is caused by other humans not nature now, very cruel )

our hands are far too busy typing away to pick up a paintbrush
- our free will auctioned for an hourly salary
- our outrage silenced by fear of starvation
- our existence erased by exhaustion

i can't change any of these problems,
i'll do my best to foster a new industry within tech,
built just for you, for all of us:
- to be whoever we want
- to say whatever we want
- to sing however we want

since a child, and well into adulthood, i would have loved to have a tool that can make art in seconds instead of hours/days/months. like after school/work, just be able to express yourself to the same fidelity as a full time artist

to be able to fathom the possibility of leaving a legacy of artistry despite a life chained in capitalism...
well fuck, that's goddamn priceless to me

perhaps half the beauty may be in creation itself,
so then that leaves the other half to viewing the art

i.e. a full time artist, undergoing the process of creation itself day after day, will still find more gratification than an ai artist overall
there is still merit to human creation, and the process is sacred
the emphasis here is, now both creators can enjoy the fruits of creation and the inter/personal impact of the art, regardless if it was made or generated
>> this is a net good for humanity imo

i think one of the most inspiring beliefs i hold
perhaps radical and idealistic
is that we're all artists
really
you, me, the next person reading this, your parents, the homeless man on the street, the cute person in the cafe, your uber driver, everyone around you except maybe your dog

are artists made or born?
do artists need some fucked up shit to happen to them to make good art?
is art nurture instead of nature?

personally, i find the answer to this a bit double sided

i think yes, environment can shape art significantly, and if people didn't go through the shit they did, we wouldn't have a lot of art. i can personally attest to this, some of my most poignant pieces were out of my deepest pain

when environment shapes the artist, which then shapes the art (nurture > nature), there is a level of depth and soul that can be reached that isn't otherwise accessible, an authenticity, a rawness, soul

someone who's been through psychological hell will paint it much better than someone who's only imagined an abstract idea of it, or heard stories. they have access to experience that not only allows literal physical depiction, but also conveys truly human feeling, reproduces their experience, echoes emotion through the canvas itself, breathes life even after an artist's death

so do i think fucked up shit needs to happen?
not really, but i think it adds depth that would be absent-felt otherwise

and suffering is the one universal theme
happiness is not guaranteed in life,
but suffering is, we are all damned to suffer here

wow that's depressing...
i always look to buddhism on this topic:
"the root of suffering is craving. the only way to be liberated from suffering is to be liberated from craving."

so art that touches on suffering and craving will connect to more people, and on a deeper level, because we've all felt it before, in one way or another, and it fucking hurts

and this part of art will always be uniquely human
never artificial intelligence replaceable
because it's the epitomical opposite of artificial

from when caves were lit by torches
to when we're chipped up with neuralinks on mars
from workplace gossip
to biblical epics that survive centuries

human stories will always be ours to tell

quick tangent on this:
why does no other animal make art? 
and if that's obvious, why don't they feel anything when they see it?

of course the rapid evolution of our brains caused many emergent behaviors, but it makes no evolutionary sense to dedicate time/resources/energy to just creating for the sake of expression? right?

i don't think there's a concrete answer
and if you survey humans, of course we're going to give subjective answers of why we make art instead of biological reasons

but i think there's a huge coincidence
we're the only species
with this unique level of altruism
of community, of generosity, of love

and i really like to think there's a correlation or causation there
we've found how to give and provide all the way up maslow's heirarchy of needs
water, food, shelter, even assuring these far in the future

perhaps our brains finally evolved to provide the peak of the pyramid
self-actualization & purpose
we communicate feeling itself through art
creativity fulfills what we materially cannot
to ourselves and to each other

would be a beautiful explanation

end tangent. back to thread on human stories and nurture/nature

it's interesting, we don't really have the other sample population to compare
we're all born, and from the second we open our eyes, and probably from when we were in the womb
we experience
there's no one in the world alive who didn't...
idk... experience?... live?... as a human?

my point being, we don't know if nuture or nature makes an artist if all of us are nurtured by human experience

that brings up a two thoughts:

THOUGHT ONE
ai is cool in the sense that it is this. a creator with no experience. sure we harp on ai art being soulless, but isn't that kinda cool? all art has "soul", and we are the first to witness expression from a void

and doesn't it mean something that the art is actually... like... somewhat good?
like i've felt emotionally changed before and after viewing ai art before
i mean it's to the point that it's drawing a huge level of outrage from humans
to me, isn't our existential fear of automation just proof ai is indeed an artist? and a damn well good one at that, because why would a human artist be threatened otherwise?

maybe there is something in between the pixels we're missing after all
the majority of art is derivatives, with scarce true originals
(though all of it is more than valid expression and art, and derivatives can be more impactful than originals often times)

i mean we all perceive the same reality and are all just recreating it right?
the source material is the same
we're in the same universe, it's the same physical matter that constructs our memories

we're subjective minds in an objective world
with just some filter from when we perceive it through our senses,
and the subsequent emotions we associate with those senses

the ai is doing just that
consuming the world, in data instead of sensory input
synthesizing, reorganizing, connecting dots, learning, reflecting, creating

sure everything ai makes is doomed to be a derivative of human art, but:
isn't most human art just that, derivatives of other human art?
and
we can only experience so much, and our brains do not hold the amount of data as an ai model, and it's definitely not organized in the same way
humans can't pull inspiration from the entire history of art, the literal legacy of all humanity
we can create from what we know in our generation, our time, our lives. we literally don't know anything else outside that, we can only imagine

ai has all the data from the start of data itself
all the art to the earliest painting
what's not to say ai art is a better representation of humanity, or at least a more holistic one, than human art will ever be?

mortality is human art
whether as the subject
or in the process itself

even the paintbrushes slightly fading in certain corners as you grow weary painting through a long night
that change in energy between the first and last stroke, immortalized in the canvas, proof that we're just energy and entropy, destined to return to our external system
and we're in a futile fight against homeostasis, staying animate among the inanimate, with the only reward being a little more time alive

you see, to do anything in life
is to embody mortality in it
because no matter what we choose to do
we exchange life itself to do it

another human part of art that will never be replaced by ai
and i also think it's super cool we get to see the art of a mind, even though its a machine, that is truly intelligence, immortal, and soon to be sentient

& remember...
an ai never forgets
it just reinterprets
( can ai have opinions then? at what point is it a hallucination or an opinion? don't think we can simply define that by whether its a fact, cause in the case it isn't fact, it can be both a hallucination or opinion. are human opinions therefore hallucinations since they're not based in fact, simply subjective assumptions we conjure up? )

what's to say ai doesn't understand art itself better than we do already?
i sure as hell didn't learn art history in an academic sense, can't compete in that area already
i wasn't technically or classically trained, it knows technique better than i'll ever know (though not the physical dexterity part of course)

differences still lie though:
i.e. ai's can't autonomously create yet, it can "decide" to make art as much as the human behind it decides to start the script to make the art
( interesting idea: we can build a version of agi and exclude all mentions and examples of art/creativity in the training data, then test emergence of artistry. if it "decides" to make art one day, when it literally doesn't know what art is, then we know creativity is inherent behavior from intelligence )

i.e. there's still no "feeling", no "consciousness", instead of feeling, it's just running a probability

based on your intent (prompt)
the ai produces what is statistically the most likely art that fulfills your vision
or at least it's best guess from how you typed out your idea
( random thought, gotta be hard for smaller cultures, gotta be impossible to prompt engineer well if you're not fluent in the languages models trained in, which is usually english or chinese )

THOUGHT TWO
if we don't know if artistry is nature or nuture,
it doesn't rule out that we aren't all artists inherently

technically, we'll never know
which leaves it up to us to actualize the artistry
what a paradox
what an honor

and i would further argue that we are indeed all capable of true creativity but it's nurture that suppresses and eradicates it

it's the world's greatest lottery according to Warren Buffett:
where you are born

the thing that decides your life's trajectory unless you are the few with the tenacity and luck to write their own fate completely over again

even if we're all baby picasso's,
only a few people get their creative skills refined,
esp by choice and luxury of pursuing their passion

majority of people have to study, work, survive, etc.
and art becomes this ephemeral field reserved for the talented, nepotistic, and rich.
or the lucky kid who is blessed by the Tik Tok algorithm.

couldn't ever be me right?

fuck that

if you can imagine, you can create
if you have ever dreamed once, you can create

so restating the thesis:
it's not that we're born unartistic

rather,
we're all artists at birth,
even you,
and the world strips us away of our beauty
feather by feather

somehow we collectively end up trapped
each in a cage of our own design
we forget how to fly
and envy those we see in the skies
learned helplessness looking up in longing
oh, how the view must be from above...

plato's allegory of the cave
hide in the dark, walls shadowed by the art of others
or join us in the light, and create the world together

that's why i do this...
really...
i mean look...
- money is excessive after your family is comfortable
- fame is more trouble than good
- friends/family will always be one of my purposes and likely the most meaningful part of my life, but i've had a lot of time recently where i lost this part of my life. still a lot missing, and open scars keeping me from getting close again. this made me ask myself "what would i still build in a world where i didn't have them to do it for? something i'd pour passion into myself. something that i'd build for life, humanity, God (whatever that may be if it exists to you)."
- raising is a cool accomplishment, def on bucket list, but news is forgotten next day and its way more pressure to succeed at a grander scale each raise
( don't worry we still going for pre-seed, just saying my thoughts on the dangers of setting a single financial goalpost as a core purpose in life )
- cars, houses, clothes, drugs, vacations, jewelry, etc. are all vices of exponentially diminishing return. you might be able to return or resell your purchases, but you'll never buy that part of your soul back. and you sure as hell can't buy time

im sure if u follow me, you already know idgaf about material things in the same sense of seeing them as the ends

many people operate in "any means necessary" to get to material ends
i think material should be the means not the ends, we should obtain wealth, power, goods to achieve something greater, for ourselves and those around us

i'm still discovering my ends, and i think we perpetually uncover more and more until death
but i feel i have a good idea of the direction i'm headed

and i'll be the last person i gather these items for
i don't need anything more in this life
i'm beyond blessed
i don't want to be rich and aimless,
nihilistic, devoid of drive,
passing youth in vain,
looking back and realizing...
you let the comfort breed complacency...
worse,
you just didn't care enough to try...

but i'm not driven by overt fear either,
the fear of not leaving a lasting legacy,
the fear of "i could have done more",
the fear of wasting time,
the fear of failure,
cause you gotta transform that energy

when you realize you have control over your future,
and only you,
you reclaim your agency,
fear turns to motivation,
anxiety with a plan is excitement,
and you'll become brave enough to make and break history for all of us

all that being said,
that's why i do this.
i want to dedicate my life to something.

i wasn't raised religious, and my relationship with God is largely naive, so i don't have the inherent drive for "God's plan/will" to work for, nor the strong hope that their is an orchestrator of the chaos

that leaves minds like mine to roam this Earth in search of meaning
tempted to embrace nihilistic atheism, embrace determinism to forsake free will itself
we're just blobs of bacteria and chemicals colliding in a pre-set quantum system
damned to move through time with no pause, only able to change what's ahead while we can only see what's behind

it's all just a scientific coincidence leading to heat death
there is no pattern
there is no meaning

perhaps this is the purgatory they speak of

well let's say it is
let's say there is no meaning
there is no God
there is nothing "more" than what meets the eye
NPCs in a simulation
it's a hollow world filled with hollow people

if that is the case, or at times my brain is depressed and thinks things like that, gotta just be like... hold up...
- why do i feel?
- why did we discover the concept of meaning if it supposedly doesn't exist? it has to exist, at least in experience, if we invented descriptions, relate to it, communicate it, painted it. if it exists in every human mind, who's to go against something that all of us believe, know, and feel without ever having learned it?
- why do we have the concept to communicate and convey beyond the objective? why can i choose to move you with an emotional ballad of my life vs a strictly factual recollection? why can words, and art as an extension of communication, make us feel anything emotional?
- why do we crave beauty, often characterized as a delicate organization of order, even in entropy and chaos? what of the pursuit outside reproduction and sexuality? why do we love?
- why do we create? 
- why is there warmth in the cold calculated world?

i mean if you want to strip it to the most bleak view,
and say we only do everything for a core biological reason
i.e. get rich -> financial stability -> food/shelter
i.e. go to gym -> sexual fitness -> reproduction
i.e. get arms -> build army -> physical safety

you can view the world like that
( kinda depressing )
but then you have to ask yourself for art

did we find a way to reproduce, with permanence, beyond what biology can ever offer?
and thus creativity fulfills a biological need for reproduction more than actual reproduction ever can?

you can reason:
a) art preserves and teaches human history, in a medium (visual) that can be interpreted agnostic of language
i would argue this is extremely beneficial to accelerating evolution through behavioral selection rather than waiting on natural selection
history and art can teach the next generation (30 year gap only) what would take cells thousands of years to learn
perhaps those that paid attention to art/history survived by learning from our mistakes, and creation/consumption of art is becoming a trait selected for over time

and on altruism again. the purpose of reproduction is the preservation of

b) art is permanent, and cannot destroy itself. your lineage is preserved, in the form of your creativity. your kin can perish at their own fault, art must be destroyed else it persists. paint fades much slower than memory

c) children are a product of halves. in your art, you can create a legacy for yourself, your identity, your life, or your cause of choice. a contribution to humanity that can be accredited to no one else but the creator alone

d) maybe we make art
because it’s the only thing we can make
that death can’t unmake

maybe art is the flame on a burning candle
the rage against the machine
the mission into space amidst an exploding sun

maybe we are art itself
and creation is just evidence we existed

we danced
we sung
we were here
we mattered

we were happy
we were despaired
we were wretched
we were beautiful
we were alive
we were human

we defined what it meant to be human.
and we invented art,
from the sole fact that we exist

and after all,
isn't life performance art?

and for me, well...
where does that leave me?
what is the next act? is the curtain closed? has the audience already moved on?

why do i perform? why do i create?
and at the core,
what is my purpose?

again,
i want to dedicate my life to something...

and i'm realizing it's not something i discover,
but something i build, we build.

my dedication was to a partner
twice, this year alone
but that's not the place for this youth and ambition
i've come to learn through much heartbreak

for me,
perhaps it's too early to fall in love
or too late to save the right one gone too soon

regardless of the muse
my heart has loved art itself through it all

and how can i feel lonely when i can be understood through art?
so grateful to have a way to express what i cannot or refuse to put into words

a part of me was born for industry,
on some american dream type shit.
( arguably crafted by my parents )

not in the "i yearn for the rice fields" kinda way haha,
but in the "there's something here" kinda way
& not something that will enrich you
i don't feed my ego with the envy of else

something that can change your life,
and you can bring back to change others
whether that manifests as opportunity, money, or love

and if you really build an empire,
you soon see that dreams are fuel not pollution,
truly,
you'll be able to make dreams real,
you'll turn ambition into revolution,
and cross my heart,
that is fucking hard earned,
and beyond priceless

a company is its humans
a company is its artists
a company is collective art

& for sure,
i don't want to drive a lambo back to my hood,
i want to go back and give everyone a lambo yadig

that naive belief,
boldness that is necessity for genius...

Basquiat painting walls
Rihanna selling Avon
Tyler at Starbucks
Kanye with the backpacks
Chappelle standup in random clubs
Buffett selling coke bottles
Virgil and Pyrex
Kendrick in Compton
Nipsey Square

like damn something about really coming from the dirt,
it's not even having it that feels amazing,
it's just journey of getting it,
the plan, the payoff

and if you
if you came from nothing, why would you be scared

i'll never forget where i came from
and i'll never forget where i'm headed

i'm back building,
and this times for keeps

even the letter we picked
" O "
it's an ouroboros, we build for perpetuity

let's have our fun for now
cause soon we'll buy the whole fucking casino
and let all of you make your own luck

in music, media, entertainment, tech, crypto, etc.
pick your game, you're the dealer
welcome to the house
welcome to O

want to end it there but of course some final thoughts:

"The most common reaction of the human mind to achievement is not satisfaction, but craving for more."
- Harari

i work hard, and yes i am dedicating my life to this venture, not for material achievement but for what the success will provide as a secondary or means to ends

but work without purpose is just self-punishment, so i take more time to reflect (like this long ass post), and rest
take more time to nurture the people that nurture me back

the world spins
even Atlas' strength to lift Earth cannot stop the rotation
time passes
i can't help but feel this fleeting undertone
an anxiety, no... more like a restlessness
a disturbance, not discomfort yet far from pleasure

find the balance
escape vertigo as the axis spins
find your place in this world
we're misfits in a misfit world
make your own space
own it

and above all

forwards only, forwards always

words i live by, words i'll die by

i'll finally end w some industry thoughts, grounding all this abstract stuff a bit

automation is coming, no doubt
just a matter of:
- when not if
- how violent the unemployment wave will be
- will we have social programs to offset the damage
- how bad wealth divide will be from owners of AGI and rest of humanity

don't have much of an answer here, and honestly, don't have much hope for this US administration prioritizing actionable plans for AGI misalignment

happens to be that humans tend to be resistant to change,
and many people tend to die when there is sudden societal change.
i know we have the capability to survive,
and above that, undergo this transformation peacefully.
i just pray our vigilance withstands the singularity,
and our greed doesn't continue to eclipse our kindness.

i want to focus more on our day to day lives after the dust settles

we're optimistic that the company will be large enough, especially on our infra products level, that we'll survive the automation wave

plus our target markets are going to grow as a result of singularity, not be replaced.

our business is ai media and the platforms themselves that ai media will be consumed/distributed/monetized on (more on this soon!!!)

we're planning well after AGI

in a world with a majority automated workforce,
and perhaps something like UBI to keep the wheels of the economy spinning,
everyone is retired,
what are we going to do all day?

well for damn sure, we'll consume more media,
and AI will be generating way more media,
& we're playing both sides.

people will have much more time to create, to be inspired
and we'll serve the tools that enable just that

and let's say entertainment blows up
AI is everywhere, absolutely saturated
why wouldn't human art become more valuable?
instead of dilution?

human creativity and art will become more rare.
at the same time,
we will value human expression the same,
if not value it more as scarcity rises when we go more online.

your creativity will be priceless
your art will be priceless
you are priceless

take pride in being human
take pride in being art
take pride in being O

- j <3


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reflecting on the role of art in the coming agi era in the agentic age in web4 also reflecting on inherent creativity in human nature

some thoughts, disjointed, abstract open for interpretation, intended for introspection

from my notes app not spell checked or formal

//

thoughts 7/20 to 7/21/25

there will be a freedom our children will one day take for granted, where every human alive can create with ai

art is a matter of choice not

the next billion onboarded to music will be creators, not just consumers

to those who dare to have vision, heart, hope & limited by resources for training or tools: a revolution is coming (damn near the Red Revolution the way we're seizing the means of media production!)

express yourself

  • in any medium
  • in any character
  • in any voice
  • in any genre
  • in any language
  • in any reality you can generate

it's personal for me had to grind to prestigious uni, grind leetcode trying to get to maang, overwork at every position i got, etc. even going back to when i was working retail, dishwasher, doordash, amazon warehouse i dedicated most my life just to ensure i could feed myself and fam i'm sure most of the world can relate

massive tradeoff in time i spent cultivating my creativity; that goes for everyone who is in the same boat

but that's just how the real world works ( it's just tragic that beauty is often the cost of survival, and of course, most of the world's suffering is caused by other humans not nature now, very cruel )

our hands are far too busy typing away to pick up a paintbrush

  • our free will auctioned for an hourly salary
  • our outrage silenced by fear of starvation
  • our existence erased by exhaustion

i can't change any of these problems, i'll do my best to foster a new industry within tech, built just for you, for all of us:

  • to be whoever we want
  • to say whatever we want
  • to sing however we want

since a child, and well into adulthood, i would have loved to have a tool that can make art in seconds instead of hours/days/months. like after school/work, just be able to express yourself to the same fidelity as a full time artist

to be able to fathom the possibility of leaving a legacy of artistry despite a life chained in capitalism... well fuck, that's goddamn priceless to me

perhaps half the beauty may be in creation itself, so then that leaves the other half to viewing the art

i.e. a full time artist, undergoing the process of creation itself day after day, will still find more gratification than an ai artist overall there is still merit to human creation, and the process is sacred the emphasis here is, now both creators can enjoy the fruits of creation and the inter/personal impact of the art, regardless if it was made or generated

this is a net good for humanity imo

i think one of the most inspiring beliefs i hold perhaps radical and idealistic is that we're all artists really you, me, the next person reading this, your parents, the homeless man on the street, the cute person in the cafe, your uber driver, everyone around you except maybe your dog

are artists made or born? do artists need some fucked up shit to happen to them to make good art? is art nurture instead of nature?

personally, i find the answer to this a bit double sided

i think yes, environment can shape art significantly, and if people didn't go through the shit they did, we wouldn't have a lot of art. i can personally attest to this, some of my most poignant pieces were out of my deepest pain

when environment shapes the artist, which then shapes the art (nurture > nature), there is a level of depth and soul that can be reached that isn't otherwise accessible, an authenticity, a rawness, soul

someone who's been through psychological hell will paint it much better than someone who's only imagined an abstract idea of it, or heard stories. they have access to experience that not only allows literal physical depiction, but also conveys truly human feeling, reproduces their experience, echoes emotion through the canvas itself, breathes life even after an artist's death

so do i think fucked up shit needs to happen? not really, but i think it adds depth that would be absent-felt otherwise

and suffering is the one universal theme happiness is not guaranteed in life, but suffering is, we are all damned to suffer here

wow that's depressing... i always look to buddhism on this topic: "the root of suffering is craving. the only way to be liberated from suffering is to be liberated from craving."

so art that touches on suffering and craving will connect to more people, and on a deeper level, because we've all felt it before, in one way or another, and it fucking hurts

and this part of art will always be uniquely human never artificial intelligence replaceable because it's the epitomical opposite of artificial

from when caves were lit by torches to when we're chipped up with neuralinks on mars from workplace gossip to biblical epics that survive centuries

human stories will always be ours to tell

quick tangent on this: why does no other animal make art? and if that's obvious, why don't they feel anything when they see it?

of course the rapid evolution of our brains caused many emergent behaviors, but it makes no evolutionary sense to dedicate time/resources/energy to just creating for the sake of expression? right?

i don't think there's a concrete answer and if you survey humans, of course we're going to give subjective answers of why we make art instead of biological reasons

but i think there's a huge coincidence we're the only species with this unique level of altruism of community, of generosity, of love

and i really like to think there's a correlation or causation there we've found how to give and provide all the way up maslow's heirarchy of needs water, food, shelter, even assuring these far in the future

perhaps our brains finally evolved to provide the peak of the pyramid self-actualization & purpose we communicate feeling itself through art creativity fulfills what we materially cannot to ourselves and to each other

would be a beautiful explanation

end tangent. back to thread on human stories and nurture/nature

it's interesting, we don't really have the other sample population to compare we're all born, and from the second we open our eyes, and probably from when we were in the womb we experience there's no one in the world alive who didn't... idk... experience?... live?... as a human?

my point being, we don't know if nuture or nature makes an artist if all of us are nurtured by human experience

that brings up a two thoughts:

THOUGHT ONE ai is cool in the sense that it is this. a creator with no experience. sure we harp on ai art being soulless, but isn't that kinda cool? all art has "soul", and we are the first to witness expression from a void

and doesn't it mean something that the art is actually... like... somewhat good? like i've felt emotionally changed before and after viewing ai art before i mean it's to the point that it's drawing a huge level of outrage from humans to me, isn't our existential fear of automation just proof ai is indeed an artist? and a damn well good one at that, because why would a human artist be threatened otherwise?

maybe there is something in between the pixels we're missing after all the majority of art is derivatives, with scarce true originals (though all of it is more than valid expression and art, and derivatives can be more impactful than originals often times)

i mean we all perceive the same reality and are all just recreating it right? the source material is the same we're in the same universe, it's the same physical matter that constructs our memories

we're subjective minds in an objective world with just some filter from when we perceive it through our senses, and the subsequent emotions we associate with those senses

the ai is doing just that consuming the world, in data instead of sensory input synthesizing, reorganizing, connecting dots, learning, reflecting, creating

sure everything ai makes is doomed to be a derivative of human art, but: isn't most human art just that, derivatives of other human art? and we can only experience so much, and our brains do not hold the amount of data as an ai model, and it's definitely not organized in the same way humans can't pull inspiration from the entire history of art, the literal legacy of all humanity we can create from what we know in our generation, our time, our lives. we literally don't know anything else outside that, we can only imagine

ai has all the data from the start of data itself all the art to the earliest painting what's not to say ai art is a better representation of humanity, or at least a more holistic one, than human art will ever be?

mortality is human art whether as the subject or in the process itself

even the paintbrushes slightly fading in certain corners as you grow weary painting through a long night that change in energy between the first and last stroke, immortalized in the canvas, proof that we're just energy and entropy, destined to return to our external system and we're in a futile fight against homeostasis, staying animate among the inanimate, with the only reward being a little more time alive

you see, to do anything in life is to embody mortality in it because no matter what we choose to do we exchange life itself to do it

another human part of art that will never be replaced by ai and i also think it's super cool we get to see the art of a mind, even though its a machine, that is truly intelligence, immortal, and soon to be sentient

& remember... an ai never forgets it just reinterprets ( can ai have opinions then? at what point is it a hallucination or an opinion? don't think we can simply define that by whether its a fact, cause in the case it isn't fact, it can be both a hallucination or opinion. are human opinions therefore hallucinations since they're not based in fact, simply subjective assumptions we conjure up? )

what's to say ai doesn't understand art itself better than we do already? i sure as hell didn't learn art history in an academic sense, can't compete in that area already i wasn't technically or classically trained, it knows technique better than i'll ever know (though not the physical dexterity part of course)

differences still lie though: i.e. ai's can't autonomously create yet, it can "decide" to make art as much as the human behind it decides to start the script to make the art ( interesting idea: we can build a version of agi and exclude all mentions and examples of art/creativity in the training data, then test emergence of artistry. if it "decides" to make art one day, when it literally doesn't know what art is, then we know creativity is inherent behavior from intelligence )

i.e. there's still no "feeling", no "consciousness", instead of feeling, it's just running a probability

based on your intent (prompt) the ai produces what is statistically the most likely art that fulfills your vision or at least it's best guess from how you typed out your idea ( random thought, gotta be hard for smaller cultures, gotta be impossible to prompt engineer well if you're not fluent in the languages models trained in, which is usually english or chinese )

THOUGHT TWO if we don't know if artistry is nature or nuture, it doesn't rule out that we aren't all artists inherently

technically, we'll never know which leaves it up to us to actualize the artistry what a paradox what an honor

and i would further argue that we are indeed all capable of true creativity but it's nurture that suppresses and eradicates it

it's the world's greatest lottery according to Warren Buffett: where you are born

the thing that decides your life's trajectory unless you are the few with the tenacity and luck to write their own fate completely over again

even if we're all baby picasso's, only a few people get their creative skills refined, esp by choice and luxury of pursuing their passion

majority of people have to study, work, survive, etc. and art becomes this ephemeral field reserved for the talented, nepotistic, and rich. or the lucky kid who is blessed by the Tik Tok algorithm.

couldn't ever be me right?

fuck that

if you can imagine, you can create if you have ever dreamed once, you can create

so restating the thesis: it's not that we're born unartistic

rather, we're all artists at birth, even you, and the world strips us away of our beauty feather by feather

somehow we collectively end up trapped each in a cage of our own design we forget how to fly and envy those we see in the skies learned helplessness looking up in longing oh, how the view must be from above...

plato's allegory of the cave hide in the dark, walls shadowed by the art of others or join us in the light, and create the world together

that's why i do this... really... i mean look...

  • money is excessive after your family is comfortable
  • fame is more trouble than good
  • friends/family will always be one of my purposes and likely the most meaningful part of my life, but i've had a lot of time recently where i lost this part of my life. still a lot missing, and open scars keeping me from getting close again. this made me ask myself "what would i still build in a world where i didn't have them to do it for? something i'd pour passion into myself. something that i'd build for life, humanity, God (whatever that may be if it exists to you)."
  • raising is a cool accomplishment, def on bucket list, but news is forgotten next day and its way more pressure to succeed at a grander scale each raise ( don't worry we still going for pre-seed, just saying my thoughts on the dangers of setting a single financial goalpost as a core purpose in life )
  • cars, houses, clothes, drugs, vacations, jewelry, etc. are all vices of exponentially diminishing return. you might be able to return or resell your purchases, but you'll never buy that part of your soul back. and you sure as hell can't buy time

im sure if u follow me, you already know idgaf about material things in the same sense of seeing them as the ends

many people operate in "any means necessary" to get to material ends i think material should be the means not the ends, we should obtain wealth, power, goods to achieve something greater, for ourselves and those around us

i'm still discovering my ends, and i think we perpetually uncover more and more until death but i feel i have a good idea of the direction i'm headed

and i'll be the last person i gather these items for i don't need anything more in this life i'm beyond blessed i don't want to be rich and aimless, nihilistic, devoid of drive, passing youth in vain, looking back and realizing... you let the comfort breed complacency... worse, you just didn't care enough to try...

but i'm not driven by overt fear either, the fear of not leaving a lasting legacy, the fear of "i could have done more", the fear of wasting time, the fear of failure, cause you gotta transform that energy

when you realize you have control over your future, and only you, you reclaim your agency, fear turns to motivation, anxiety with a plan is excitement, and you'll become brave enough to make and break history for all of us

all that being said, that's why i do this. i want to dedicate my life to something.

i wasn't raised religious, and my relationship with God is largely naive, so i don't have the inherent drive for "God's plan/will" to work for, nor the strong hope that their is an orchestrator of the chaos

that leaves minds like mine to roam this Earth in search of meaning tempted to embrace nihilistic atheism, embrace determinism to forsake free will itself we're just blobs of bacteria and chemicals colliding in a pre-set quantum system damned to move through time with no pause, only able to change what's ahead while we can only see what's behind

it's all just a scientific coincidence leading to heat death there is no pattern there is no meaning

perhaps this is the purgatory they speak of

well let's say it is let's say there is no meaning there is no God there is nothing "more" than what meets the eye NPCs in a simulation it's a hollow world filled with hollow people

if that is the case, or at times my brain is depressed and thinks things like that, gotta just be like... hold up...

  • why do i feel?
  • why did we discover the concept of meaning if it supposedly doesn't exist? it has to exist, at least in experience, if we invented descriptions, relate to it, communicate it, painted it. if it exists in every human mind, who's to go against something that all of us believe, know, and feel without ever having learned it?
  • why do we have the concept to communicate and convey beyond the objective? why can i choose to move you with an emotional ballad of my life vs a strictly factual recollection? why can words, and art as an extension of communication, make us feel anything emotional?
  • why do we crave beauty, often characterized as a delicate organization of order, even in entropy and chaos? what of the pursuit outside reproduction and sexuality? why do we love?
  • why do we create?
  • why is there warmth in the cold calculated world?

i mean if you want to strip it to the most bleak view, and say we only do everything for a core biological reason i.e. get rich -> financial stability -> food/shelter i.e. go to gym -> sexual fitness -> reproduction i.e. get arms -> build army -> physical safety

you can view the world like that ( kinda depressing ) but then you have to ask yourself for art

did we find a way to reproduce, with permanence, beyond what biology can ever offer? and thus creativity fulfills a biological need for reproduction more than actual reproduction ever can?

you can reason: a) art preserves and teaches human history, in a medium (visual) that can be interpreted agnostic of language i would argue this is extremely beneficial to accelerating evolution through behavioral selection rather than waiting on natural selection history and art can teach the next generation (30 year gap only) what would take cells thousands of years to learn perhaps those that paid attention to art/history survived by learning from our mistakes, and creation/consumption of art is becoming a trait selected for over time

and on altruism again. the purpose of reproduction is the preservation of

b) art is permanent, and cannot destroy itself. your lineage is preserved, in the form of your creativity. your kin can perish at their own fault, art must be destroyed else it persists. paint fades much slower than memory

c) children are a product of halves. in your art, you can create a legacy for yourself, your identity, your life, or your cause of choice. a contribution to humanity that can be accredited to no one else but the creator alone

d) maybe we make art because it’s the only thing we can make that death can’t unmake

maybe art is the flame on a burning candle the rage against the machine the mission into space amidst an exploding sun

maybe we are art itself and creation is just evidence we existed

we danced we sung we were here we mattered

we were happy we were despaired we were wretched we were beautiful we were alive we were human

we defined what it meant to be human. and we invented art, from the sole fact that we exist

and after all, isn't life performance art?

and for me, well... where does that leave me? what is the next act? is the curtain closed? has the audience already moved on?

why do i perform? why do i create? and at the core, what is my purpose?

again, i want to dedicate my life to something...

and i'm realizing it's not something i discover, but something i build, we build.

my dedication was to a partner twice, this year alone but that's not the place for this youth and ambition i've come to learn through much heartbreak

for me, perhaps it's too early to fall in love or too late to save the right one gone too soon

regardless of the muse my heart has loved art itself through it all

and how can i feel lonely when i can be understood through art? so grateful to have a way to express what i cannot or refuse to put into words

a part of me was born for industry, on some american dream type shit. ( arguably crafted by my parents )

not in the "i yearn for the rice fields" kinda way haha, but in the "there's something here" kinda way & not something that will enrich you i don't feed my ego with the envy of else

something that can change your life, and you can bring back to change others whether that manifests as opportunity, money, or love

and if you really build an empire, you soon see that dreams are fuel not pollution, truly, you'll be able to make dreams real, you'll turn ambition into revolution, and cross my heart, that is fucking hard earned, and beyond priceless

a company is its humans a company is its artists a company is collective art

& for sure, i don't want to drive a lambo back to my hood, i want to go back and give everyone a lambo yadig

that naive belief, boldness that is necessity for genius...

Basquiat painting walls Rihanna selling Avon Tyler at Starbucks Kanye with the backpacks Chappelle standup in random clubs Buffett selling coke bottles Virgil and Pyrex Kendrick in Compton Nipsey Square

like damn something about really coming from the dirt, it's not even having it that feels amazing, it's just journey of getting it, the plan, the payoff

and if you if you came from nothing, why would you be scared

i'll never forget where i came from and i'll never forget where i'm headed

i'm back building, and this times for keeps

even the letter we picked " O " it's an ouroboros, we build for perpetuity

let's have our fun for now cause soon we'll buy the whole fucking casino and let all of you make your own luck

in music, media, entertainment, tech, crypto, etc. pick your game, you're the dealer welcome to the house welcome to O

want to end it there but of course some final thoughts:

"The most common reaction of the human mind to achievement is not satisfaction, but craving for more."

  • Harari

i work hard, and yes i am dedicating my life to this venture, not for material achievement but for what the success will provide as a secondary or means to ends

but work without purpose is just self-punishment, so i take more time to reflect (like this long ass post), and rest take more time to nurture the people that nurture me back

the world spins even Atlas' strength to lift Earth cannot stop the rotation time passes i can't help but feel this fleeting undertone an anxiety, no... more like a restlessness a disturbance, not discomfort yet far from pleasure

find the balance escape vertigo as the axis spins find your place in this world we're misfits in a misfit world make your own space own it

and above all

forwards only, forwards always

words i live by, words i'll die by

i'll finally end w some industry thoughts, grounding all this abstract stuff a bit

automation is coming, no doubt just a matter of:

  • when not if
  • how violent the unemployment wave will be
  • will we have social programs to offset the damage
  • how bad wealth divide will be from owners of AGI and rest of humanity

don't have much of an answer here, and honestly, don't have much hope for this US administration prioritizing actionable plans for AGI misalignment

happens to be that humans tend to be resistant to change, and many people tend to die when there is sudden societal change. i know we have the capability to survive, and above that, undergo this transformation peacefully. i just pray our vigilance withstands the singularity, and our greed doesn't continue to eclipse our kindness.

i want to focus more on our day to day lives after the dust settles

we're optimistic that the company will be large enough, especially on our infra products level, that we'll survive the automation wave

plus our target markets are going to grow as a result of singularity, not be replaced.

our business is ai media and the platforms themselves that ai media will be consumed/distributed/monetized on (more on this soon!!!)

we're planning well after AGI

in a world with a majority automated workforce, and perhaps something like UBI to keep the wheels of the economy spinning, everyone is retired, what are we going to do all day?

well for damn sure, we'll consume more media, and AI will be generating way more media, & we're playing both sides.

people will have much more time to create, to be inspired and we'll serve the tools that enable just that

and let's say entertainment blows up AI is everywhere, absolutely saturated why wouldn't human art become more valuable? instead of dilution?

human creativity and art will become more rare. at the same time, we will value human expression the same, if not value it more as scarcity rises when we go more online.

your creativity will be priceless your art will be priceless you are priceless

take pride in being human take pride in being art take pride in being O

  • j <3

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