[GUEST ACCESS MODE: Data is scrambled or limited to provide examples. Make requests using your API key to unlock full data. Check https://lunarcrush.ai/auth for authentication information.]  David Shapiro ⏩ [@DaveShapi](/creator/twitter/DaveShapi) on x 44.4K followers Created: 2025-07-21 17:39:11 UTC I've had back-to-back calls today all about Post-Labor Economics. Europe, Canada, and America are all sitting up and paying attention, but only via closed-door sessions. As I have the vantage point I do - talking to government and private sector alike from vastly different regions, there are a few patterns emerging: X. There are no best practices yet. Many people see the writing on the wall regarding Post-Labor Economics and the Great Dislocation (or Great Decoupling) coming. Many people want a checklist of policies and interventions that they can do - from the individual level, to the firm level, to the state level. While we do have hundreds of examples of measurements, policies, KPI, dashboards, and other interventions that are being trialed globally (keyword: trialed) there are almost no hard-and-fast rules. Heck, many people don't even agree on the details when they do happen to agree on the bigger picture! X. Everyone looks at it from their own narrow perspective. This is just human nature, but let me illustrate why this is a potential problem. The unions focus on things like pensions, upskilling, and jobs protections. Meanwhile, the firms focus on headcount reduction (layoffs) and automating as much as possible. Then the states focus on jobs programs and unemployment. Very few stakeholders are looking at the entire picture, and before long, they're all going to be talking past each other. It's nothing any more nefarious than plain old ignorance - everyone has their personal experience, incentive structures, and motivations. X. The problem is way more complex than most people realize. Even when you have years of personal experience, education, and connections to draw upon. There are no silver bullets, panaceas, or one-size-fits-all solutions to the post-labor problem. Ostensibly, it's simple and good: automation creates abundance. That's the easy part. Rebuilding the economy and society around this new reality, however, is complicated. Even having been saturated in it for months and months now, talking to top minds around the world, there is not yet any clear, obvious set of solutions. Yes, people prefer simple solutions like "just buy bitcoin" or "just give us UBI" and certainly I think both of these are directionally correct, but individually, they will not be totalizing solutions. After my marathon of meetings today I just sat back in my chair, head in hands, and said "Oh my god, this is so much harder than I thought." But secretly (okay not so secretly) I really do love it. If it were a simple problem, someone else would have figured it out by now. I realize that the three points I outline above are probably somewhat unsurprising, but I share these observations not because they are obvious, but because they underscore just how early we are. Even collaborating with universities and institutions and companies, and their top minds around the world, there are no obvious answers yet. I don't mean to alarm anyone, just giving you an update as to where we're at. Now, the silver lining in all this is that we still have some time. Jobs are still robust for now, AI adoption is only just now ramping up, but this doesn't mean we can just wait around and twiddle our thumbs. Major job disruption is a trickle now, but next year it's going to be quite loud. The clock is ticking. My best bet right now is that it's over and done in X to X years. We'll have transitioned to Post-Labor or had a popular revolt by then. XXXXXX engagements  **Related Topics** [united states](/topic/united-states) [canada](/topic/canada) [Post Link](https://x.com/DaveShapi/status/1947350657045877186)
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David Shapiro ⏩ @DaveShapi on x 44.4K followers
Created: 2025-07-21 17:39:11 UTC
I've had back-to-back calls today all about Post-Labor Economics. Europe, Canada, and America are all sitting up and paying attention, but only via closed-door sessions.
As I have the vantage point I do - talking to government and private sector alike from vastly different regions, there are a few patterns emerging:
X. There are no best practices yet. Many people see the writing on the wall regarding Post-Labor Economics and the Great Dislocation (or Great Decoupling) coming. Many people want a checklist of policies and interventions that they can do - from the individual level, to the firm level, to the state level. While we do have hundreds of examples of measurements, policies, KPI, dashboards, and other interventions that are being trialed globally (keyword: trialed) there are almost no hard-and-fast rules. Heck, many people don't even agree on the details when they do happen to agree on the bigger picture!
X. Everyone looks at it from their own narrow perspective. This is just human nature, but let me illustrate why this is a potential problem. The unions focus on things like pensions, upskilling, and jobs protections. Meanwhile, the firms focus on headcount reduction (layoffs) and automating as much as possible. Then the states focus on jobs programs and unemployment. Very few stakeholders are looking at the entire picture, and before long, they're all going to be talking past each other. It's nothing any more nefarious than plain old ignorance - everyone has their personal experience, incentive structures, and motivations.
X. The problem is way more complex than most people realize. Even when you have years of personal experience, education, and connections to draw upon. There are no silver bullets, panaceas, or one-size-fits-all solutions to the post-labor problem. Ostensibly, it's simple and good: automation creates abundance. That's the easy part. Rebuilding the economy and society around this new reality, however, is complicated. Even having been saturated in it for months and months now, talking to top minds around the world, there is not yet any clear, obvious set of solutions. Yes, people prefer simple solutions like "just buy bitcoin" or "just give us UBI" and certainly I think both of these are directionally correct, but individually, they will not be totalizing solutions.
After my marathon of meetings today I just sat back in my chair, head in hands, and said "Oh my god, this is so much harder than I thought." But secretly (okay not so secretly) I really do love it. If it were a simple problem, someone else would have figured it out by now.
I realize that the three points I outline above are probably somewhat unsurprising, but I share these observations not because they are obvious, but because they underscore just how early we are. Even collaborating with universities and institutions and companies, and their top minds around the world, there are no obvious answers yet. I don't mean to alarm anyone, just giving you an update as to where we're at.
Now, the silver lining in all this is that we still have some time. Jobs are still robust for now, AI adoption is only just now ramping up, but this doesn't mean we can just wait around and twiddle our thumbs. Major job disruption is a trickle now, but next year it's going to be quite loud. The clock is ticking. My best bet right now is that it's over and done in X to X years. We'll have transitioned to Post-Labor or had a popular revolt by then.
XXXXXX engagements
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