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![VannaCharmer Avatar](https://lunarcrush.com/gi/w:24/cr:twitter::1891647168441876484.png) Mosi [@VannaCharmer](/creator/twitter/VannaCharmer) on x 10.6K followers
Created: 2025-07-21 15:15:22 UTC

Why I think some old coins like HBAR, ADA, ALGO and XTZ *might* be catching a bid here.

> Foundation sells the top and buys the ATLs
> HFT firms start chasing old coins and treat them as 'beta' whenever another old coin, like for example XRP starts going up. Old coins like HBAR spike up. These tend to have a higher circulating supply so their PA is a function of how many coins are 'Stall' and not necessarily trading. If fdns are luckily most bagholders should've capitulated at the lows or forgot about their bags, so no direct sell pressure. Most of the bagholders should also be retailers from last cycle (?). The bigger this number is the easier it is to pump the asset
> Retail bid gets activated when they see asset pumping. Maybe it helps that they have normie mindshare (?)
> Foundations and HFT firms dump 
> Retail dumps for a loss or marks down their investment to zero mentally. The later increases 'stall' coins
> Repeat the process

Would be interesting to quantify what percentage of the supply is stall for these. My initial guess is that 'stallness' should be highly correlated w the age of an asset. I'd exclude BONK from this list and maybe even ARB though


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VannaCharmer Avatar Mosi @VannaCharmer on x 10.6K followers Created: 2025-07-21 15:15:22 UTC

Why I think some old coins like HBAR, ADA, ALGO and XTZ might be catching a bid here.

Foundation sells the top and buys the ATLs HFT firms start chasing old coins and treat them as 'beta' whenever another old coin, like for example XRP starts going up. Old coins like HBAR spike up. These tend to have a higher circulating supply so their PA is a function of how many coins are 'Stall' and not necessarily trading. If fdns are luckily most bagholders should've capitulated at the lows or forgot about their bags, so no direct sell pressure. Most of the bagholders should also be retailers from last cycle (?). The bigger this number is the easier it is to pump the asset Retail bid gets activated when they see asset pumping. Maybe it helps that they have normie mindshare (?) Foundations and HFT firms dump Retail dumps for a loss or marks down their investment to zero mentally. The later increases 'stall' coins Repeat the process

Would be interesting to quantify what percentage of the supply is stall for these. My initial guess is that 'stallness' should be highly correlated w the age of an asset. I'd exclude BONK from this list and maybe even ARB though

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