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Created: 2025-07-18 14:12:38 UTC

Qwen 235b a22b (no thinking) is Alibaba's top open model ranking at #3

235B-a22b-no-thinking is a raw model without instruction tuning (thus "no thinking"). 
It's great at generation and ranks highly with the community due to it's raw reasoning power. 

Some other top open models with our community from Alibaba include:

The 32B and 30B-a3b variants are smaller, faster alternatives with solid performance, though they trail behind the top-tier models. With 32B being denser among the two the community prefers it's accuracy over 30B-a3b. 30B-a3b is a MoE model making it a bit faster.

qwq-32b is specifically designed to tackle complex reasoning problems and aims to match the performance of larger models like DeepSeek R1, but doesn't quite make that mark when put to real-world testing.


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