[GUEST ACCESS MODE: Data is scrambled or limited to provide examples. Make requests using your API key to unlock full data. Check https://lunarcrush.ai/auth for authentication information.]  The Vigilant Fox 🦊 [@VigilantFox](/creator/twitter/VigilantFox) on x 1.9M followers Created: 2025-07-15 20:11:02 UTC Governor Gavin Newsom didn’t get the friendly interview he might have expected when he joined The Shawn Ryan Show. Instead, he found himself pressed on the very issues that have defined...and haunted...his political career. Even before Covid came up, the conversation turned to one of the country’s most divisive topics: guns. Ryan opened the exchange with a direct question: “Do you think that everyday citizens carrying a gun reduces crime or increases crime?” Newsom didn’t hesitate, delivering the argument he’s repeated for years. “I think the evidence, the evidence suggests the opposite. It increases the likelihood of a gun death,” he said, insisting that states with stricter gun laws see fewer gun deaths. “And you look at all the states with the most comprehensive gun safety reforms, they have lower gun death rates than states with weaker gun laws. And there's a correlation there.” “California is one of the lowest gun death rates in America. The highest murder rates in the county tend to be red states.” Ryan wasn’t convinced. He brought up Chicago—a city with strict gun laws but among the nation’s leaders in shootings and homicides. “Well, I thought Chicago was the number one?” Newsom faltered. “No.....well.....as cities you'll have different experiences, but at state levels, gun safety from our perspective, saves lives,” he tried. He insisted the data proved his point. “We have the data to bear that out.” But there’s a reason that argument often feels hollow. California’s overall gun death rate might look better than the national average on paper, but its largest cities have become with violent crime rates that defy easy talking points. For anyone paying attention to the crime waves in Los Angeles, Oakland, and San Francisco, it was hard not to see the disconnect.  XXXXXXX engagements  **Related Topics** [topics](/topic/topics) [gavin newsom](/topic/gavin-newsom) [Post Link](https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1945214544416022878)
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The Vigilant Fox 🦊 @VigilantFox on x 1.9M followers
Created: 2025-07-15 20:11:02 UTC
Governor Gavin Newsom didn’t get the friendly interview he might have expected when he joined The Shawn Ryan Show.
Instead, he found himself pressed on the very issues that have defined...and haunted...his political career.
Even before Covid came up, the conversation turned to one of the country’s most divisive topics: guns.
Ryan opened the exchange with a direct question:
“Do you think that everyday citizens carrying a gun reduces crime or increases crime?”
Newsom didn’t hesitate, delivering the argument he’s repeated for years.
“I think the evidence, the evidence suggests the opposite. It increases the likelihood of a gun death,” he said, insisting that states with stricter gun laws see fewer gun deaths.
“And you look at all the states with the most comprehensive gun safety reforms, they have lower gun death rates than states with weaker gun laws. And there's a correlation there.”
“California is one of the lowest gun death rates in America. The highest murder rates in the county tend to be red states.”
Ryan wasn’t convinced. He brought up Chicago—a city with strict gun laws but among the nation’s leaders in shootings and homicides.
“Well, I thought Chicago was the number one?”
Newsom faltered.
“No.....well.....as cities you'll have different experiences, but at state levels, gun safety from our perspective, saves lives,” he tried.
He insisted the data proved his point.
“We have the data to bear that out.”
But there’s a reason that argument often feels hollow.
California’s overall gun death rate might look better than the national average on paper, but its largest cities have become with violent crime rates that defy easy talking points.
For anyone paying attention to the crime waves in Los Angeles, Oakland, and San Francisco, it was hard not to see the disconnect.
XXXXXXX engagements
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