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![ChrisMartzWX Avatar](https://lunarcrush.com/gi/w:24/cr:twitter::1060632416434434049.png) Chris Martz [@ChrisMartzWX](/creator/twitter/ChrisMartzWX) on x 140.5K followers
Created: 2025-05-20 21:14:54 UTC

Let’s talk science.

I receive comments almost daily from individuals begging me to, 

πŸ—¨οΈ β€œπ‘†π‘‘π‘œπ‘ 𝑒𝑠𝑖𝑛𝑔 π‘‘β„Žπ‘’ π‘‘π‘’π‘Ÿπ‘š β€˜π‘“π‘œπ‘ π‘ π‘–π‘™ 𝑓𝑒𝑒𝑙𝑠,’ π‘œπ‘’π‘Ÿ π‘π‘’π‘‘π‘Ÿπ‘œπ‘™π‘’π‘’π‘š π‘π‘Ÿπ‘œπ‘‘π‘’π‘π‘‘π‘  π‘‘π‘œπ‘›β€™π‘‘ π‘π‘œπ‘šπ‘’ π‘“π‘Ÿπ‘œπ‘š π‘‘π‘–π‘›π‘œπ‘ π‘Žπ‘’π‘Ÿ π‘π‘œπ‘›π‘’π‘ .”

The term β€œfossil fuels” does not mean that our petroleum products are derived from dinosaur remains. πŸš«πŸ¦• 

In fact, no serious person has ever suggested that to be the case, although it was a nice marketing tactic by Sinclair Oil Corporation.

This non-sequitur usually leads to the claim that, 

πŸ—¨οΈ β€œπ‘†π‘π‘–π‘’π‘›π‘‘π‘–π‘ π‘‘π‘  β„Žπ‘Žπ‘£π‘’ π‘“π‘œπ‘’π‘›π‘‘ π‘Žπ‘π‘–π‘œπ‘‘π‘–π‘ π‘™π‘–π‘žπ‘’π‘–π‘‘ β„Žπ‘¦π‘‘π‘Ÿπ‘œπ‘π‘Žπ‘Ÿπ‘π‘œπ‘›π‘  π‘œπ‘› π‘†π‘Žπ‘‘π‘’π‘Ÿπ‘›β€™π‘  π‘šπ‘œπ‘œπ‘›, π‘‡π‘–π‘‘π‘Žπ‘›, π‘‘β„Žπ‘’π‘Ÿπ‘’π‘“π‘œπ‘Ÿπ‘’ π‘œπ‘–π‘™ π‘π‘Žπ‘› 𝑏𝑒 π‘Žπ‘π‘–π‘œπ‘‘π‘–π‘.”

This is a flawed line of reasoning. πŸ₯΄ 

The term π’‰π’šπ’…π’“π’π’„π’‚π’“π’ƒπ’π’ is a broad term that is used to categorize any organic compound composed of hydrogen (H) and carbon (C) atoms. This is just basic chemistry. πŸ§ͺ 

Hydrocarbons such as ethane (Cβ‚‚H₆) or methane (CHβ‚„) can be liquid if conditions are cold enough under the right pressure:

β€’ Cβ‚‚H₆ boils (becomes a gas) at -88.6Β°C (-127.5Β°F).

β€’ CHβ‚„ boils at -161.5Β°C (-258.7Β°F).

Given the temperature on Titan hovers around -179Β°C (-290.2Β°F), it is indeed cold enough there for oceans of Cβ‚‚H₆ and CHβ‚„ to exist on its surface. But, just because hydrocarbons can be liquid does not make them β€œoil.”

Oil is far more chemically complex than Cβ‚‚H₆ or CHβ‚„. Crude oil is made up of a series of hydrocarbons, far more complex than anything encountered in space (at least thus far). πŸ›’οΈ

Coal and oil are produced by long-dead biomass. More specifically,

🌿 Coal forms from decaying terrestrial plant materialβ€”trees, ferns and other vegetationβ€”in swamps or bogs buried beneath layers of sediment and rock. The waterlogged conditions create peat. Over millions of years, it becomes buried and hardens due to pressure compaction and high temperature.

🦠 Oil [and natural gas] forms from the remains of marine microorganisms such as algae and plankton. The remains accumulate on the seafloor, where over millions of years, they are are subject to intense heat and pressure, which forms a solid substance called kerogen. Over time, that kerogen undergoes thermal cracking and eventually breaks down into complex liquid (oil) and gas (natural gas) complex hydrocarbons.

Scientists have not found coal or oil on any other celestial body. Fact.

It is true that natural gas may potentially form abiotically since, as I mentioned previously, oceans of Cβ‚‚H₆ and CHβ‚„ have been discovered on Titan. πŸͺ 

Calling Cβ‚‚H₆ or CHβ‚„ on Titan a fossil fuel would be incorrect. But, liquid Cβ‚‚H₆ and CHβ‚„ are neither coal nor oil.

The term β€œfossil fuel” is a fine moniker if used properly. Because that’s what coal and oil areβ€”fossil fuels.

And, in the context of the global warming debate, arguing about the origins of fossil fuels is irrelevant. Whether they are abiotic or not has no bearing on whether or not the climate system is sensitive to our coal, oil and natural gas combustion byproducts, COβ‚‚ and CHβ‚„.

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ChrisMartzWX Avatar Chris Martz @ChrisMartzWX on x 140.5K followers Created: 2025-05-20 21:14:54 UTC

Let’s talk science.

I receive comments almost daily from individuals begging me to,

πŸ—¨οΈ β€œπ‘†π‘‘π‘œπ‘ 𝑒𝑠𝑖𝑛𝑔 π‘‘β„Žπ‘’ π‘‘π‘’π‘Ÿπ‘š β€˜π‘“π‘œπ‘ π‘ π‘–π‘™ 𝑓𝑒𝑒𝑙𝑠,’ π‘œπ‘’π‘Ÿ π‘π‘’π‘‘π‘Ÿπ‘œπ‘™π‘’π‘’π‘š π‘π‘Ÿπ‘œπ‘‘π‘’π‘π‘‘π‘  π‘‘π‘œπ‘›β€™π‘‘ π‘π‘œπ‘šπ‘’ π‘“π‘Ÿπ‘œπ‘š π‘‘π‘–π‘›π‘œπ‘ π‘Žπ‘’π‘Ÿ π‘π‘œπ‘›π‘’π‘ .”

The term β€œfossil fuels” does not mean that our petroleum products are derived from dinosaur remains. πŸš«πŸ¦•

In fact, no serious person has ever suggested that to be the case, although it was a nice marketing tactic by Sinclair Oil Corporation.

This non-sequitur usually leads to the claim that,

πŸ—¨οΈ β€œπ‘†π‘π‘–π‘’π‘›π‘‘π‘–π‘ π‘‘π‘  β„Žπ‘Žπ‘£π‘’ π‘“π‘œπ‘’π‘›π‘‘ π‘Žπ‘π‘–π‘œπ‘‘π‘–π‘ π‘™π‘–π‘žπ‘’π‘–π‘‘ β„Žπ‘¦π‘‘π‘Ÿπ‘œπ‘π‘Žπ‘Ÿπ‘π‘œπ‘›π‘  π‘œπ‘› π‘†π‘Žπ‘‘π‘’π‘Ÿπ‘›β€™π‘  π‘šπ‘œπ‘œπ‘›, π‘‡π‘–π‘‘π‘Žπ‘›, π‘‘β„Žπ‘’π‘Ÿπ‘’π‘“π‘œπ‘Ÿπ‘’ π‘œπ‘–π‘™ π‘π‘Žπ‘› 𝑏𝑒 π‘Žπ‘π‘–π‘œπ‘‘π‘–π‘.”

This is a flawed line of reasoning. πŸ₯΄

The term π’‰π’šπ’…π’“π’π’„π’‚π’“π’ƒπ’π’ is a broad term that is used to categorize any organic compound composed of hydrogen (H) and carbon (C) atoms. This is just basic chemistry. πŸ§ͺ

Hydrocarbons such as ethane (Cβ‚‚H₆) or methane (CHβ‚„) can be liquid if conditions are cold enough under the right pressure:

β€’ Cβ‚‚H₆ boils (becomes a gas) at -88.6Β°C (-127.5Β°F).

β€’ CHβ‚„ boils at -161.5Β°C (-258.7Β°F).

Given the temperature on Titan hovers around -179Β°C (-290.2Β°F), it is indeed cold enough there for oceans of Cβ‚‚H₆ and CHβ‚„ to exist on its surface. But, just because hydrocarbons can be liquid does not make them β€œoil.”

Oil is far more chemically complex than Cβ‚‚H₆ or CHβ‚„. Crude oil is made up of a series of hydrocarbons, far more complex than anything encountered in space (at least thus far). πŸ›’οΈ

Coal and oil are produced by long-dead biomass. More specifically,

🌿 Coal forms from decaying terrestrial plant materialβ€”trees, ferns and other vegetationβ€”in swamps or bogs buried beneath layers of sediment and rock. The waterlogged conditions create peat. Over millions of years, it becomes buried and hardens due to pressure compaction and high temperature.

🦠 Oil [and natural gas] forms from the remains of marine microorganisms such as algae and plankton. The remains accumulate on the seafloor, where over millions of years, they are are subject to intense heat and pressure, which forms a solid substance called kerogen. Over time, that kerogen undergoes thermal cracking and eventually breaks down into complex liquid (oil) and gas (natural gas) complex hydrocarbons.

Scientists have not found coal or oil on any other celestial body. Fact.

It is true that natural gas may potentially form abiotically since, as I mentioned previously, oceans of Cβ‚‚H₆ and CHβ‚„ have been discovered on Titan. πŸͺ

Calling Cβ‚‚H₆ or CHβ‚„ on Titan a fossil fuel would be incorrect. But, liquid Cβ‚‚H₆ and CHβ‚„ are neither coal nor oil.

The term β€œfossil fuel” is a fine moniker if used properly. Because that’s what coal and oil areβ€”fossil fuels.

And, in the context of the global warming debate, arguing about the origins of fossil fuels is irrelevant. Whether they are abiotic or not has no bearing on whether or not the climate system is sensitive to our coal, oil and natural gas combustion byproducts, COβ‚‚ and CHβ‚„.

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