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[@adam3us](/creator/twitter/adam3us)
"@jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco it's mostly non comp sci people but you don't have to be a comp-sci ubergeek to understand. coders are a minority about XXXX% (50m). people who understand in reasonable detail perhaps X% of that (500k) and enough to usefully argue about tradeoffs probably X% of that (5k)"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979528738518810704) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T12:43Z 697.3K followers, 8251 engagements


"@simulxxx @4moonsettler @NickSzabo4 @zamir591582 @satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco @LukeDashjr even though the risks are really not new at all have been consensus valid since 2009 up to 1MB even maybe 32MB pre 2010. and 100kB op returns relaying in the p2p network and mined into the next block for months before bitcoin XX (for a few test transactions)"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979857217311662316) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T10:28Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@RAQIANMUSIC @Arthur_van_Pelt op return2 opt-in DA is at least economically rational for spammers to use. they might prefer to spam taproot inscriptions or op returns and pay more. but so far they appear to be fee sensiive . mostly in taproot for the discount and average 10kB images small for an image"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979900698159452583) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T13:21Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"no not true. the risk has been there since jan 2009. is it a risk maybe. what could be done people can run whatever filter/policy they like just edit the parameter. risk is evenly distributed as all full nodes store and relay after mining. it's hard to control spam in a decentralized censorship-resistant network"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979901333923635556) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T13:23Z 697.3K followers, 1423 engagements


"Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Running p2p nodes too decentralized and anonymous to stop is what defends individual sovereignty. Self-watering down p2p systems won't help them stay robust it's just a slippery slope. Arguing decentralization doesn't matter that much likewise. There are decades of empirical evidence even hard won legal precedent that robustly prove otherwise. This may be the first time I've seen self-sovereignty p2p system's own proponents loud in their self concern try to weaken the system they care deeply about with well meaning but misguided"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1971140872499532013) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-09-25T09:13Z 697.3K followers, 163.1K engagements


"looking like a big dalai lama maybe the biggest yet"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978384492361404636) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-15T08:56Z 697.3K followers, 47.2K engagements


"@RonMexico6920 @Arthur_van_Pelt i think that would be a dumb decision 160b or maybe 256b would be ok for now. i tried have a look in the pre bitcoin XX release github"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979961254505594936) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T17:22Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"it's important to steelman for understanding. can you guys @cguida @Arthur_van_Pelt @jimmysong @Exellion @nickzabo4 @grassfedbitcoin @wk057 help steelman @lukedashjr's logic. i find it confusing but this is my best shot at debugging from @tonevays pod"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979993832818159631) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T19:31Z 697.3K followers, 44.3K engagements


"@blkresearch @real_or_random's paper proving taproot commitments are post quantum secure"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1965347869537534142) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-09-09T09:33Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@NickSzabo4 @LeeroyBitcoins @phyrooo @lorandimecs @Excellion @_jonasschnelli_ did you pay attention to the fact that it's possible to store contiguous images in taproot hiding also or has this turned into emotion over logic for you also"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1975841077547671942) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-08T08:29Z 697.3K followers, 3718 engagements


"@colbyserpa @csuwildcat @NickSzabo4 he's talking more about miner filters. and afaik they're not doing that now. build the tools to do it and you can get compelled that's what @csuwildcat is explaining AWA is about. and that's what @ocean_mining is advocating and refusing to listen to risk feedback about"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978356258701705285) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-15T07:04Z 697.3K followers, 1393 engagements


"@giacomozucco @soloyopee @oomahq @_DavidSFreeman @coinjoined @start9labs @_MattHill_ the AWA defense @csuwildcat explained is it's an unreasonable burden to compel a company (or individual) to modify a service code hardware firmware to implement a feature. remember CSW tried to force a change to hand him coins people laughed at as nodes wouldn't run it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979219749721550903) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T16:15Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@parman_the enlighten us as i don't know what you're talking about"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979578241548448026) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T16:00Z 697.3K followers, 4078 engagements


"@lopp seems like some of the KOLs are pushing the false narratives. layers to this cake"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979655116316975214) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T21:05Z 697.3K followers, 5073 engagements


"@NickSzabo4 @satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco No the mal-incentive fix is the same pattern as 2014: to steer layer2 devs away from using fake pubkeys which are bad for node resources. My suggestion was 160b. Maybe you're thinking of 100kb which was not my proposal that argument is weaker"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979800699937657334) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T06:44Z 697.3K followers, 9760 engagements


"@rektsorekt i'm guessing you'd admit tinkering with flight control computers in-flight requires specialists in that. ofc the aircraft manufacturer needs to hear market requirements but ripping the keyboard out of their hands and letting the twitter lynch mob at the keyboard won't end well"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979823625780994538) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T08:15Z 697.3K followers, 1411 engagements


"@mattkratter the pool cartel needs breaking which is where stratumv2/datum etc come in. but that may not stop the spam problem might even make it worse as XXX miners may be even more inclined to take spam money than XX pools as they're anonymous and can hide from the reputational damage"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979825028163350716) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T08:20Z 697.3K followers, 2003 engagements


"@Arthur_van_Pelt you are invited to poke holes in any argument made. bitcoin evolution should be grounded in comp sci logic what can work keeping bitcoin money focus secure for future generations and balancing risk concerns"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979827868168593535) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T08:32Z 697.3K followers, 1336 engagements


"@BitcoinBombadil what do you mean "fiat legal risk" i am not a spam apologist i have been fighting spam for a decade before bitcoin existed that's even the reason hashcash exists. recall i argued against 100kb and for 160b. appealing to legal authority is losing strategy IMO"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979853025117368503) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T10:11Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@simulxxx @4moonsettler @NickSzabo4 @zamir591582 @satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco @LukeDashjr 2) illegal content risk via contiguous images (also possible in inscriptions via image hacks but they argue different and not "sanctioned" due to the hacks) rather than debunking the confusing strained logic it's more productive to discuss the risks which are real"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979856671611683106) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T10:26Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@NickSzabo4 @bar_dictum @satflation @zamir591582 @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch so again the way forward is to park frustration with confusing concerns of others and try to address risks that concern various views like in speedy trial. and policy is something you can self-help and change easily and encourages others to edit their configurations"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979881104816607302) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T12:03Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@Cipherhoodlum @johnBTCdoe @ProfFeynman @BitcoinKnots i agree with that. i'm not sure that "they won't use it" is a strong rationale as we also want spammers to stop abusing inscriptions with the discount. so far we don't know how to stop either. reducing field sizes doesn't stop it just pushes them to do it in smaller fragments"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979915283377557826) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T14:19Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@Bitcoinapolis55 you don't have to screenshot i'm not a deleteoor. see also in thread "you don't have to be a comp-sci ubergeek to understand" some strong contributors are not really coders. just good at game-theory adversarial thinking or big picture"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979920363262771283) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T14:39Z 697.3K followers, 1033 engagements


"@Cipherhoodlum @johnBTCdoe @ProfFeynman @BitcoinKnots what scenario do you mean storage over spending"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979920871662703002) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T14:41Z 697.3K followers, XX engagements


"@SoNamecoin @stephanlivera it is not sanctioning spam. the bug fix is minor to discourage a 144b layer2 anchor which may get used in future from using fake pubkeys. that's why i suggested 160b limit (double the 80b limit)"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979931992041967684) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T15:25Z 697.3K followers, XX engagements


"@BitcoinBombadil @LukeDashjr my logic is people who are mining may want to filter it out and bitcoin core is the go to node for security-first uses and you don't want consensus failures in mining nodes. and some users may want to enable it also as a preference"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979958555441529088) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T17:11Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@MajorianBTC there is no bitcoin developer conflict with citrea. @lopp invested so what. bitVM is a useful protocol though citrea project looks a bit scammy payload to me. and the other string theory graph is balajis donated the failed bet proceeds to chain code which isn't seeking money"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979970567609434518) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T17:59Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@kwsantiago @Excellion @satflation @LukeDashjr @BitMEXResearch @NickSzabo4 @zamir591582 @jabulanijakes that's not actually true test 100kB op returns were relaying in the p2p network mining in the next block for months before bitcoin XX was released. cue @lukedashjr claiming users running config not blessed by him are not "in the p2p network" so he defines them as "attackers""  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979981518014460371) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T18:42Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@nilskp @LukeDashjr @BitMEXResearch @Excellion @NickSzabo4 @zamir591582 @satflation @jabulanijakes @ToneVays 2) taproot inscriptions are not spam they're a hack. 3) spam should be combated by policy not consensus. 4) spam is sanctioned by bitcoin XX so illegal content could be posted now but not before so bitcoin will die unless core XX dies. something like that. confusing i know"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979991728242266182) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T19:23Z 697.3K followers, 1498 engagements


"@nilskp @LukeDashjr @BitMEXResearch @Excellion @NickSzabo4 @zamir591582 @satflation @jabulanijakes @ToneVays corrections welcome. it's hard to steelman logic this confusing"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979991815328575914) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T19:23Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@Arthur_van_Pelt @BitMEXResearch dont make @bitmexresearch write "the spam wars" book ;)"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979992434546291100) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T19:25Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"ossification is important for long-term drama-safety. we need more secure layer2 pegs/anchors to ossify (like satoshi's argument for script but properly). then the experimental stuff can go in layer2 like with TCIP. bitvm is solid R&D towards improved layer2. and/or simplicity"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979997992636559640) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T19:48Z 697.3K followers, 31.5K engagements


"@lopp my meta point is we need secure layer2 enabling hooks on layer1 before we can ossify. some people seem to have become anti layer2 security R&D without understanding why it's important for ossification. also we need to get the ossification done before we become socially unable to"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1980011270330806281) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T20:40Z 697.3K followers, 6867 engagements


"@NickSzabo4 @adamamcbride @LukeDashjr @tmornini @gofreesamourai Improve the incentives for layer2 commitments to not use script. Make op return2 as a soft fork with witness discount. Or if there is consensus for a blocksize reduction increase weight on base bytes and drop segwit discount. (I doubt that will fly but for logical consistency)"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1975532115921138011) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-07T12:02Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@NickSzabo4 @adamamcbride @LukeDashjr @tmornini @gofreesamourai and while we're at it limit by consensus rule op return to 144b or 160b or something at or close to the boundary where the incentives flip to store data in fake pubkeys or inscriptions"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1975541583983616112) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-07T12:39Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@giacomozucco @cguida6 @murchandamus there is no contradiction as there's very mild advantage for layer2 dev to use 144b op return vs 80b + 2x 32b fake pubkeys. it's just if you ask them nicely and it works just as well they're not psychopaths and will do something low-effort to create lower overhead for nodes"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978351119467262387) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-15T06:43Z 697.3K followers, 1957 engagements


"@giacomozucco @cguida6 @murchandamus it's mostly laziness if 144b op returns worked to start with that's what they would've described as the plan in their paper. and this use case is the most sensitive to filters as they want justice transactions to be relayed fast and reliably. other types of use case not as much"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978351636096397816) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-15T06:46Z 697.3K followers, 1108 engagements


"@BitcoinAIMusic @coryklippsten op return is specifically designed for financial transactions things like layer2 commitments layer1 privacy swap coordination and bitVM is such a layer2 hook. the drama is that bitVM only needs 144b. so say 160b would've been enough"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979482505913741479) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T09:39Z 697.3K followers, XX engagements


"@soloyopee @coryklippsten this is why i suggested increasing op return datacarriersize=160b as the groth16 proof on bn254 fit in 144b"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979505652809531757) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T11:11Z 697.3K followers, XX engagements


"VIRES IN NUMERIS"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1953397405468021083) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-08-07T10:06Z 697.3K followers, 115.5K engagements


"Bitcoin is owned by humanity the protocol developers are stewards and need consensus from users to change it materially. bitcoin is about money spam has no place in the timechain. what defaults the bitcoin core project puts in the reference client matter in this"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1963830548012372324) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-09-05T05:04Z 697.3K followers, 903.8K engagements


"@NickSzabo4 @adamamcbride @LukeDashjr @tmornini @gofreesamourai Even if it was p2p file sharing or free-net eternity usenet (I implemented 1997) usenet (also flood fill for XX years now) that ship has been around for decades. Usenet topically is flood fill and was used (abused) for distributing porn DVD movie rips in uuencoded parts"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1975515907477667992) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-07T10:57Z 697.3K followers, 16.8K engagements


"@BritishHodl well technicallly. SNB has X% of it's wealth fund like share-portfolio allocated to $MSTR indirectly bitcoin before - just actively managed bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1976285546789110048) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-09T13:56Z 697.3K followers, 3387 engagements


"i'm quite empathetic to people having different views as i hope others are - live and let live. I suggested some kind of finesse / de-escalation parameter change which probably wouldn't hurt the network in practice (160b). not because of logic but sort of relatively harmless fudge factor for human emotions right. but the logic seems quite clear no - if there are compact layer2 anchor/justice transaction related op returns that are above 80b that end up being put in fake pubkeys that is worse. (simple fact). - it's unlikely large spam will be put in op return as it's 4x more expensive. (no use"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1976355988472025169) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-09T18:36Z 697.3K followers, 10.4K engagements


"people making false claims bitcoin op codes parameters are "designed" or "meant" for spam are actually attacking bitcoin with manufactured legal peril. none of bitcoin is designed for spam it's all designed for financial transactions smart-contracts and small anchors hashes commitments compact proofs for layer2s like lightning"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1976574750173364310) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-10T09:05Z 697.3K followers, 67.7K engagements


"If we socially lose the ability to make rational changes Bitcoin has far worse problems. Socially attacking urging rejection of security & robustness fixes from XXX most skilled people on the planet is itself an attack on Bitcoin. There are security fixes in v30"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1977307450341720440) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-12T09:36Z 697.3K followers, 190.8K engagements


"bitcoin should be able to organize itself in terms of socializing changes in such a way that we don't fall apart to developer nerd sniping between a pedantic windmill tilting reckless religious crusader and people who need all arguments to be technically grounded"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1977419936235729077) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-12T17:03Z 697.3K followers, 37.5K engagements


"Seeing a few people making this logic error. Categorically this is true: overpaying or using intentionally low data rate encodings is not something that fees or policy or even consensus rules can fix. If you disagree you may want to try some worked examples before saying more"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978074391024898355) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-14T12:24Z 697.3K followers, 59K engagements


"It depends if 144b is a logical minimum they need to guarantee publication of and @robin_linus I think argues it is. Then you're either going to get fake pubkeys or 144b op return by filter rules. Take your pick. Bitcoin technical consensus was for 144b (or 160b) as a mild bug fix for a future potential class if issue. There's no rush as it's future but then again if you're going to try you need that ahead as it's slow to update software and nodes and you can't influence developers if they can't reasonably expect it to work. But then my inference is they used proof by induction (256bit will"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978450190706126959) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-15T13:17Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@cguida6 @giacomozucco @murchandamus @robin_linus Bitcoin technical consensus was for 144b (or 160b) as a mild bug fix for a future potential class if issue So why wasn't this the proposal That would have at least been somewhat sane Yes it's what I suggested as while it's technically a magic number it's socially smarter"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978459990630260842) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-15T13:56Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@uxerik_ the history of p2p networks was that someone had to operate for the network to even exist. takes people with a mixture of mettle and street smarts. maybe something for some node runners to draw inspiration from. bitcoin will not die because of the noderunners of last resort"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979157258371010837) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T12:07Z 697.3K followers, 2694 engagements


"@rektsorekt @1hmle @robin_linus as satoshi wrote script is useful for future use-cases and layer2s. some kind of lightning like idea was described on forums and even i think designed for in transaction formats/script"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979476290521772392) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T09:14Z 697.3K followers, 1163 engagements


"@rektsorekt @1hmle @robin_linus improving the security of layer2 assurances is good and draws more transaction types to layer2. if layer2 can become the place where new features use-cases go it moves closer the possibility of ossifying layer1. which i think is desirable for safety"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979477152123744411) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T09:18Z 697.3K followers, 1097 engagements


"@coryklippsten @BunkFreamon the change to op return is the same rationale as the introduction of the 2014 op return - after a X year battle with the spammers of the time - lazy app devs stuffing app messages in fake pubkeys. its the same bitVM needs a bit more than 80b. that's it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979478788040781834) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T09:24Z 697.3K followers, 5320 engagements


"@coryklippsten @BunkFreamon IMO it would've avoided the drama if the op return was policy limited to 160b (the bitVM anchor is 144b i think). technically that maybe a bit of a reduced key security version so probably 256b is more logical"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979515300346524003) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T11:49Z 697.3K followers, 29K engagements


"@BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco i'm pretty sure most of the "hate" is from people who can't code never looked at the code couldn't read it if they did never talked to the mainline developers don't understand the comp sci and information theory limits 2nd and 3rd side effects etc. but you know "rage on""  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979519654688141420) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T12:07Z 697.3K followers, 13.7K engagements


"@jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco hence all the circular arguing. people just need to communicate and calm down. we all care about keeping bitcoin hard money focused the bitcoin mission. bitcoin is a new hope for humanity and we must preserve it for future generations"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979529238639484934) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T12:45Z 697.3K followers, 7229 engagements


"@Excellion @NickSzabo4 @satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco The mal-incentive is plain to see with the introduction of groth16 zkp anchors. They are a bit bigger than 80b. the op return increase to 160b or so is motivated by the same mal-incentive fix pattern as the 2014 op return pattern. Bigger than 160b is a weak argument"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979796856885715105) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T06:28Z 697.3K followers, 11.2K engagements


"@Excellion @NickSzabo4 @satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco weak like incredibly pedantic micro-focused on format interpretations or concern about one legal risk but blind to another clear legal risk etc. people need to calm down and engage their critical thinking mode. and admit the other risks also please"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979817565456334991) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T07:51Z 697.3K followers, 3379 engagements


"@Excellion @stephanlivera @NickSzabo4 @satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco even if we in time find an efficient secure way to do layer2 anchors necessary targeted layer1 features to achieve it and ossify bitcoin. even then spammers may be motivated to waste mainchain space on NFTs. annoying as it is ultimately it's not really preventable. the best"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979819429249831185) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T07:58Z 697.3K followers, 1059 engagements


"@Excellion @stephanlivera @NickSzabo4 @satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco because unlike basically all other internet protocols bitcoin has a robust back-pressure defense: the blocksize limit proof of work and market set fees. where image spam has an inherent disadvantage it's bigger (average 10kb) where bitcoin transactions are really quite compact"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979820155787190645) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T08:01Z 697.3K followers, 1086 engagements


"@Excellion @stephanlivera @NickSzabo4 @satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco with something like usenet or email there's almost no friction the cost to send an email is approximately zero. i guess a side-effect of bitcoin's digital scarcity is somehow that became attractive for graffiti due to it's permanence. maybe a way to make that less attractive"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979820647254839746) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T08:03Z 697.3K followers, 1466 engagements


"@Arthur_van_Pelt and i'm the only one calmly making sense per usual"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979821911107670359) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T08:08Z 697.3K followers, 10.8K engagements


"@coryklippsten well there's a lesson already in that sequence right. i said 160b (because bitVM with bn254 curve is 144b) but then you read a bit more and realize the bn254 curve doesn't have 128b security but 100b so it's probably not a good parameter for the long term. so it becomes 256b"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979830869130170685) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T08:43Z 697.3K followers, 1250 engagements


"@satflation @Excellion @NickSzabo4 @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco i've been saying the same thing for a few weeks since i tried to figure out for myself - don't trust verify style - what the logic and risks are. luckily people are starting to engage on logic again so there's hope"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979853797368430605) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T10:15Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@Arthur_van_Pelt @BitMEXResearch bitcoin already has a blocksize limit which was hard won but strongly necessary. the blocksize limit proof of work plus market fees is the strongest defense bitcoin has against spam. basically no other internet protocols have that defense and it's a huge advantage"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979858009229783400) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T10:31Z 697.3K followers, 1310 engagements


"@Arthur_van_Pelt @BitMEXResearch bitcoin has some other issues though: consensus security at the limit requires fetching all prior transactions and verifying them. if people put illegal data in the chain that creates a problem. that's why i suggested op return2"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979858645388275732) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T10:34Z 697.3K followers, 1601 engagements


"@vazertuche @FractalEncrypt i agree ossification is needed and the path to that is to find a way to secure layer2s so that we no longer need further consensus changes to the main chain"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979868773382492528) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T11:14Z 697.3K followers, XX engagements


"@WilderStubbs @simulxxx @NickSzabo4 @Excellion @stephanlivera @satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch the base i'd say 32b for a hash or pubkey a bit more for some control bytes where 40b came from but then went to 80b due to the mal-incentive that if people can't make their layer2/meta protocol work with 40b (previous limit) they just put it in fake pubkeys which is worse"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979872457256550722) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T11:29Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@WilderStubbs @simulxxx @NickSzabo4 @Excellion @stephanlivera @satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch and recently with groth16 based compact ZKPs using bn XXX curve they have a 100-bit security 144b (where the 160b came from). but really i'd say 100-bit is not great so then you need bls12-381 curve and the numbers become 224b which is why i said 256b might be better"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979873028164259862) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T11:31Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@NickSzabo4 @bar_dictum @satflation @zamir591582 @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch the lesson from speedy trial rough consensus is to try to address risks that are concerns to others even if you think they are relatively lower weighting or pedantic/unrealistic/safe-harbor/common-carrier etc well protected areas"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979878882418499845) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T11:54Z 697.3K followers, 1840 engagements


"@NickSzabo4 @bar_dictum @satflation @zamir591582 @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch i think AWA compelled deletion is a risk which bitcoin has steered away from and some filter proponents seem to reject as a risk. others are focused on contiguous image spam inside binary fields in big binary database files obfuscated on disk and require code to extract"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979879964548952106) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T11:59Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@Cipherhoodlum @johnBTCdoe @ProfFeynman @BitcoinKnots well true. the massive rug-pull flood last few years. left lots of abandoned and presumably dust floor level value. i guess from that point of view sub 1s/vb summer makes it economically rational to claim them temporarily but not very much. and i'm not sure if those users"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979923264223740255) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T14:51Z 697.3K followers, XX engagements


"@BitcoinBombadil i didn't ignore risk i suggested 160b which according to @lukedashjr logic is enough to not count as images. also i suggested op return2 as a safer way for fullnodes to optionally delete or not even download inert data in a way that rational for spammers to move to"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979954478271926698) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T16:55Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@kryptomicus @Excellion @NickSzabo4 @satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch it's very difficult to get the technical mind to agree to make a bitcoin protocol worse due to social or marketing reasons"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979977693065089232) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T18:27Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@CaminaDrummer4 it's not such a simple change so won't be as fast as policy and it's a soft-fork so it needs ecosystem consensus. and there are a few variants and it's a bit different availability assurance so people's instinct is "not same as bitcoin today must be bad" before they think more"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979985967097254141) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T19:00Z 697.3K followers, XX engagements


"@ausbtcclub your logic is wrong because if someone wants to spam bitcoin motivated by pushing up fees they could do it with bitcoin XX or any other clone. just send transactions to themselves in volume and push fees up. QED"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979986757899657589) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T19:03Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@nilskp @LukeDashjr @BitMEXResearch @Excellion @NickSzabo4 @zamir591582 @satflation @jabulanijakes he has luke-special definitions. you'd have to listen to the @tonevays pod and even then it's hard to debug. logic according to luke: 1) there was no image spam before bitcoin XX because he has divined that policy increase makes it sanctioned and unsanctioned spam isn't spam"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979991015936192934) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T19:20Z 697.3K followers, 50.5K engagements


""Bitcoin is not to take power away from a central group and give it to the people its to take power away from the central group and give it to no one at all" -waxwing interesting thoughts on filtering"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1980016264190771304) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T21:00Z 697.3K followers, 24.9K engagements


"@MrJPonderosa @ManThatCrazy she's one of the maintainers her job along with others is to check-in code that developers have technical consensus on. if she check-in code there was not consensus for she'd lose her access. (and this happened with prior maintainers). pieter wrote the blog post and look what"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1980018387645563152) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T21:09Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@MrJPonderosa @ManThatCrazy he wrote about spam. "JPEG hype drivel" . "provide some discouragement for it - but not when that discouragement becomes harmful on itself""  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1980022459756605672) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T21:25Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@BitcoinMaxiHodl knots XX (when released) will be bitcoin XX as they will rebase on it. or if they don't you shouldn't run it as bitcoin has the braintrust - people with years of experience the best security analysis the protocol smarts to implement complex features like TRUC XX% faster sync"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1970442375454486532) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-09-23T10:57Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"that was a new ATH on @bitfinex at $123.89k just now but not ATH on the more retail exchanges as they had an exaggerated blow of top in aug.🟩"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1974172443444236347) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-03T17:59Z 697.3K followers, 67.8K engagements


"@soloyopee @csuwildcat @_DavidSFreeman @giacomozucco @oomahq @coinjoined @start9labs @_MattHill_ if it was as simple as the feds writing some code and then compelling apple to run it AWA unreasonable burden would be broken. as that's not how it works i would say you are just wrong"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979276082697117842) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T19:59Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@soloyopee @csuwildcat @_DavidSFreeman @giacomozucco @oomahq @coinjoined @start9labs @_MattHill_ the point again is none of this implementations should implement selective content based filtering or the people running it are at elevated risk of being compelled under AWA to apply filters they don't agree with by courts at behest of authorities"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979295922535256168) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T21:18Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@melvincarvalho @parman_the @MrHodl @jack @ocean_mining @GrassFedBitcoin multiple implementations is dangerous for consensus fork risk. different patchsets on top of core is itself potentially risky but less so. ideally keep the patchset small and well reviewed"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979299226459988426) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T21:31Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@HodlsSherlock @BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco but you are right this is why companies have specialists other than engineers in marketing customer engagement customer satisfaction polls user studies etc. bitcoin doesn't have that it effectively relies on the power users podcasters tech journalists to do that"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979537941782262203) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T13:19Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"before this @theragetech article i heard unrelated from several contacts that ocean was contacting pools with legal theories to try push their corporate counsel into moderating content. that connects with and looks much worse in context of leaked @lukedashjr IMs in this article"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1971330468961542213) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-09-25T21:46Z 697.3K followers, 158.8K engagements


"Stopping spam has never worked in the history of the internet Bitcoin has disadvantage of being by design censorship resistant necessarily decentralized architecture. first we have to understand reality if we want to win. Filter as protest ✅ with you but filter working ❌"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1974849839570788559) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-05T14:51Z 697.3K followers, 190.8K engagements


"Logic would say if there is no incentive to relay large op returns then they won't be relayed. But if they were it's less bad for noderunners already related in the p2p network etc. It seems to me you've absorbed some false narratives also are assumed the worst without talking to people. Happy to connect and have a calm rational conversation"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1975902374473400642) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-08T12:33Z 697.3K followers, 17.9K engagements


"so with the UK FCA dropping their silly bitcoin ETF ban. are UK residents finding they're able to access the new Blackrock UK bitcoin ETF or other international ETFs in Uk tax advantaged accounts and general portfolios bitcoining minds want to know"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1976286421699727744) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-09T13:59Z 697.3K followers, 61.8K engagements


"here's a proposal: no tax on bitcoin period. @jack"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1976370788258525272) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-09T19:34Z 697.3K followers, 167.7K engagements


"Luke is unblocking replying and reblocking so that people can't correct him in thread. Such a weak move. The smarter thing to do is rebase on XXXX as there are half a dozen security bug fixes in it. And also @lukedashjr should stop being silly and stop blocking TRUC lightning pinning fixes. And the TRUC security fix in XX is more robust than in 29"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1977403447210021179) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-12T15:58Z 697.3K followers, 69.4K engagements


"@start9labs @_MattHill_ fwiw and no disrespect to anyone but this has come up a few times and it's not clear filtering plugins are a good idea at all it could actually be a very bad idea for complex historic precedent reasons related to apple vs FBI and compelled actions"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978473960682508541) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-15T14:52Z 697.3K followers, 8297 engagements


"@jamesob @caprioleio 2nd paper is an oof for quantum promoters"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979175606215491961) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T13:20Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@oomahq @csuwildcat @soloyopee @_DavidSFreeman @giacomozucco @coinjoined @start9labs @_MattHill_ lols no bitcoin does not come with tools to allow you to selectively censor transactions. that's why people are providing feedback that expanding heuristic or content related filters is a bad idea"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979294470861623573) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T21:12Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@rektsorekt @1hmle bitVM is a new layer2 building block relying on the surprising discovery by @robin_linus that you can achieve a X of n secure ZKP equivocation disproof and verify that with existing bitcoin script. it is potentially useful for increasing layer2 security"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979472453182148935) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T08:59Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@rektsorekt @1hmle @robin_linus it's just a tool and we have other simpler tools like atomic swaps using hashlocks timelocks pre-signed contest transactions. it's in that family of tools. and those things are used by or help improve security of bitcoin layer2s lightning ark fedimint liquid"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979472749270634864) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T09:00Z 697.3K followers, 2467 engagements


"@coryklippsten it is was and remains the case that spam is abusing financial transaction fields. people are getting very pedantic about low level formats to try to construct this artificial narrative. their concern is real but the rationale strained. eg even luke agrees op return wont be used"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979478273932357954) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T09:22Z 697.3K followers, 3433 engagements


"@CaminaDrummer4 they weren't asking for the change. they were going to put 80b in op return and 2x 32b in fake pubkeys. the point is that way is worse for nodes than 144b op return. and that applies to other similar uses relying on bitVM design or other hash-lock reactive security schemes"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979605368629064072) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T17:47Z 697.3K followers, 1021 engagements


"@Excellion @stephanlivera @NickSzabo4 @satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco steelman for the cat and mouse game is "maybe they give up" but you know spam on the internet has been a problem for like XX years or more and it was never "solved". and in one way it's harder in bitcoin because it's decentralized. and in another way bitcoin is more protected"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979819719801921718) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T07:59Z 697.3K followers, 1178 engagements


"@Rombbb_Gaming @NickSzabo4 @satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco i did push for 160b check the github. 100kb was a social mistake IMO. but even that is nuanced as luke admits no one will use op return as it's cheaper to use inscriptions. the argument seems to be more about social messages which ofc people don't agree were made"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979829465288171863) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T08:38Z 697.3K followers, 1520 engagements


"@Kevin_McKernan @coryklippsten you can do that in bitcoin XX also"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979832080285712445) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T08:48Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@Arthur_van_Pelt that's really not it that's a narrative. they're closer to the details have been at it longer through previous iterations of this debate 2010 2014 2015 what worked and what didn't etc. plus the logic of trying not to cause more damage in side-effects than the spam nuisance"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979841766686917058) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T09:27Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@Arthur_van_Pelt @BitMEXResearch another issue the strong digital scarcity seems to attract NFT spammers trying to market the scarcity as digital graffiti that is permanently stored by hiding in bitcoin financial data. maybe we can erode that interest by being able to delete inert data"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979859206393274759) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T10:36Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@simulxxx @Arthur_van_Pelt with L2 supporting tech so that people can share more expensive UTXOs and compete financially yes i think improving L2 security is important and that may require targeted features on L1 to achieve. it's become populist to want to discourage L2s which is not constructive IMO"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979860567725937001) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T10:41Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@tonesoprone @rektsorekt i'm sure we all agree. but how is the question :) btw the average image size was around 10kB whcih is quite small for an image - indicates low resolution high compression settings. which indicates interestingly that they are cost sensitive and the fee market is working"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979860939165012319) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T10:43Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@satflation @phzix @BitMEXResearch @LukeDashjr @Excellion @NickSzabo4 @zamir591582 @jabulanijakes it's not steganographic it's just chopped into 520b chunks in inscriptions. stupid spammers are like water. close one and they go to the next"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979953064103535063) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T16:49Z 697.3K followers, XX engagements


"@venorusprime @BitcoinBombadil @LukeDashjr i have the receipts and many currently angry people say they'd have been ok with that. so no"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979986292130636285) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T19:01Z 697.3K followers, XX engagements


"@Arthur_van_Pelt @Cipherhoodlum @BitMEXResearch @BitcoinKnots and data spammers will always be able to abuse blockchain fields that are meant for native financial transactions"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979996265694785774) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T19:41Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@wk057 @cguida @Arthur_van_Pelt @jimmysong @Exellion @GrassFedBitcoin @LukeDashjr @ToneVays it's useful to have an explanation because if you're going to have a discussion it's becomes circular if people simply can't make sense of the logic. here's bitcoin project intent "op return is NOT an endorsement of storing data in the blockchain""  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1980006846304842109) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T20:23Z 697.3K followers, 1038 engagements


"so @LukeDashjr blocked me it seems to prevent be debunking more of his false claims. heres another one"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1963302726961394098) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-09-03T18:07Z 697.3K followers, 185.9K engagements


"@pastorcoin @LukeDashjr the open question is do we get some fork coins to sell for more bitcoin along the way"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1966848221155913954) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-09-13T12:55Z 697.3K followers, 12.1K engagements


"damn. that's huge :) first EU country to put btc in sovereign wealth fund. X% but price will fix that"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1976264898356109388) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-09T12:34Z 697.3K followers, 184.2K engagements


"@satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco i just want to stop spam and misuse that makes it hard to run nodes. and the increase in op return is to fix the mal-incentive bug to create fake pubkeys which is bad for nodes"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979659189187379294) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T21:21Z 697.3K followers, 41.2K engagements


"@NickSzabo4 @bar_dictum @satflation @zamir591582 @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch the risks are old topics hashed out on cypherpunks list and also about hard won protective precedents arising from prior p2p systems and internet freedoms. i am even the author of two p2p sytems and exit node operator of X or more p2p systems i think (excluding bitcoin nodes)"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979878005926457712) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T11:51Z 697.3K followers, 2240 engagements


"@stephanlivera @ArgenTo46 i guess we could even now soft-fork or policy limit base block-size to 500kb without undoing the needed discount for fixing change consolidation incentive. (if anything that incentive needs increasing) looks like 30day average peaked a bit over 2MB"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979884472087773595) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T12:16Z 697.3K followers, 2256 engagements


"@BetruetoitUK @NicolasDorier @NickSzabo4 @satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch the use case of the tooling is for layer2 anchors and layer1 multi-party financial transaction coordination. would it make people feel happier if bitcoin release notes or web sites said this explicitly or said "get lost" to spammers in the release notes"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979911525163810979) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T14:04Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@BitcoinBombadil @LukeDashjr if people actually listened to me we wouldn't have this drama"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979954570617929862) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T16:55Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@BitcoinBombadil @LukeDashjr there are people who don't like content based heuristics but it's opt-in with policy and @lukedashjr seems to argue for that. personally i'd be ok getting having anti-spam policy code reviewed and an option in bitcoin XX. but you know it's not up to me"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979958155367899473) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T17:09Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


""op return is NOT an endorsement of storing data in the blockchain" op return release notes. for the "intent" diviners"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1980024791349235896) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T21:34Z 697.3K followers, 37.9K engagements


"@zachherbert probably 3.5m NFTs/images are probably spam to most. and 100m memecoins and likely all the abandoned UTXO dust when the memes and NFTs got rug-pulled"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1980045463903723571) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-19T22:56Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@Frances_Coppola Yes particularly given DCG parent owes $575m connected party loan borrowed from Genesis and assumed $1.1bil 3ac losses by Genesis with $1.1bil promisory note. Elsewhere said in total DCG and subsidiaries borrowed $840m so total sounds like $1.194bil with the promissory note"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1598187509036748801) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2022-12-01T05:29Z 697.2K followers, XX engagements


"bring back @tracemayer want to see him as well as @saylor on financial news. he was on TV talking about bitcoin in 2012. (below is 2018)"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1860638502372683848) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2024-11-24T10:56Z 697.1K followers, 140.8K engagements


""Trump told me he owns a significant amount of bitcoin. not going to disclose the number. he had a significant position even at that time and price has gone up a lot since. it's about alignment what's good for bitcoin is good for all of us" -@DavidFBailey @saylor's $100k NYE"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1879226952231567596) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-01-14T17:59Z 697.3K followers, 286.8K engagements


"@gerovich not bad. but i'm thinking 3000 based on mNAV months to cover norms etc"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1939725773985722752) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-06-30T16:40Z 697.3K followers, 13.6K engagements


"bitcoin protocol improvements come from where the cypherpunk brain trust is. ofc nothing is perfect. releases with different parameters or less tested patches are built on top of that. i'm going to seek out whichever build has the smartest most cypherpunk brain trust behind it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1970464580154360162) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-09-23T12:25Z 697.2K followers, 54.2K engagements


"@CoinCornerDanny @bitcoinhodlco @zakkdev @freddienew see @Sequans this is how you do it. CEO buys not dumps"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1971177470465540543) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-09-25T11:38Z 697.2K followers, 1103 engagements


"@donttreadonme4_ @natbrunell Well there are multiple things in v30 but assuming you are here to debate datacarriersize start with sipa's blog post on and the XXX question FAQs in stack exchange and then tell us what you disagree with and why. Or even without reading why"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1973802473220657338) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-02T17:29Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"evidence piling up that censorship resistance and curbing spam are fundamentally in conflict the internet physics of this are that: A) prioritizing fighting spam conflicts with B) privacy and uncensorability/decentralization Prioritize 1"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1974262718359040388) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-03T23:58Z 697.2K followers, 110.5K engagements


"@giacomozucco @darosior @alpacasw @tonklaus @brian_trollz @murchandamus regardless of misinterpretation that's a bad idea due to the slippery slope legal precedent for being asked to delete things you build tools and demonstrate you can (apple vs FBI etc) and i explained it more politely"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1974995655300092244) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-06T00:30Z 697.1K followers, 1872 engagements


"@moochieball it's been explained many times by various people. including stack exchange FAQs bitcoin core post delving bitcoin posts etc. this post by @darosior from may is a pretty good summary. it's posted on twitter but also on delving bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1975323970996985936) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-06T22:15Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@TomerStrolight luckily the free market tends to win. the trick is to self-spot when you are accidentally the one arguing against he free market"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1975850924699767189) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-08T09:09Z 697K followers, 1094 engagements


"i don't want spam. how do i vote against it with my bitcoin wallet. that is the root question"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1975858156640088245) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-08T09:37Z 697.1K followers, 112.1K engagements


"@coinbureau *blackrock ETF buyers bought"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1975860422768009310) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-08T09:46Z 697.1K followers, 16.5K engagements


"@heavilyarmedc it's bad advice anyway. not a detail person evidently. probably over focused on legal risk. maybe he wouldn't have run a tor exit node or remailer either not sure"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1975929548043674081) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-08T14:21Z 697K followers, 2101 engagements


"@csuwildcat he is a self-professed monarchist after all :) count me out. i prefer no rulers and p2p bitcoin rough consensus and running code"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1975986892106572054) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-08T18:09Z 697.1K followers, 7594 engagements


"@BITCOINALLCAPS substitute slow down materially if that helps you read and digest the clear explanation of why it wont work and even if it did start to slightly work miners would bypass the p2p network and it would stop working at all and create additional miner centralization risks"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1976260036436558289) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-09T12:14Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"nodes filtering spam doesn't and can't work for very easy to understand reasons: if you impact spammers or miners revenue they will just bypass nodes as they have in the past"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1976371642705322490) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-09T19:38Z 697.1K followers, 65.7K engagements


"@ZachSawatz3599 inapplicable analogy"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1976389718465237437) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-09T20:50Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"it's programming XXX that any programming language can have data hidden in any number of ways. and internet power user XXX that any internet protocol can have data stuffed into protocol headers formats etc. even completely non-IT savvy people can see that the english language written in a book can be used to hide data codes in various levels of efficiency. filters to limit spam don't work and can't really work for VERY easy to understand reasons. if you consider yourself a critical thinking man don't trust verify the filter arguments THINK about it for yourself: the p2p network is hard to"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1976578185975275883) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-10T09:18Z 697.2K followers, 25.8K engagements


"@colbyserpa he seems to agree with op return2 data-availability. but he's failing at what you said and appears to be saying changing a node local node parameter on a feature that's been consensus valid for XX years is "intentionally designed to host non-financial content" which is nonsense"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1976579049289044139) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-10T09:22Z 697.1K followers, 3593 engagements


"@cguida6 Does nothing about inscriptions which are harder to filter or prune. IMO it would be more effective in combating spam to make it rational for the spam industry to move to op return and then give nodes a way to optionally prune spam from storage and relay"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1977301498657902998) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-12T09:13Z 697.3K followers, 4344 engagements


"I assume bitcoiners realize that a well functioning layer1 privacy mechanism would typically make anti-spam filtering information-theoretically impossible. Even the committed transactions proposal from 2013 would have this effect"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1977308079092810011) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-12T09:39Z 697.2K followers, 88.8K engagements


"It was Pieter who wrote the blog post and the stack exchange. And he is almost always polite dislikes drama and is quite good at concise explanations focussed on the point . @Gloznow is the equivalent of janito in this maybe she said a few things that annoyed people. Sure about @lopp but you know if lopp told you your ears stuck out and you should not post your seeds online you would post them on twitter to spite him"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1977383927774933497) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-12T14:40Z 697.2K followers, 4480 engagements


"@Cipherhoodlum @Leishman @LukeDashjr As long as he doesn't create risk to Bitcoin. Bitcoin is more important than all of us"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1977393364333994134) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-12T15:18Z 697.3K followers, 8988 engagements


"don't make @bitmexresearch write the spam wars book :)"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1977417212651802994) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-12T16:52Z 697.2K followers, 30K engagements


"@Opcode_Network lols that book is full of nonsense and lies. it was ghost written for roger ver"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1977437554590048286) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-12T18:13Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"you could have a point there. but at least not actively filtering is presumably less bad for precedent as you notice MARA stopped. there is some argument about if they work for miners also as well as there are many miners. @csuwildcat also called the introduction of filters an early mistake by satoshi for this reason"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978360674649579965) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-15T07:21Z 697.1K followers, 1653 engagements


"@colbyserpa @csuwildcat @NickSzabo4 @ocean_mining someone doing something inadvisable exposing themselves to security and complexity risks is no excuse for the bitcoin reference client to make the same mistakes or to make other mistakes based on "urgency" or "expediency" or "prior mistake precedent". calm down"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978364764037226997) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-15T07:38Z 697.2K followers, 6411 engagements


"@lightcoin but what you have written is not really correct for miners not publishing data as those adding DA size/hash to an op return2 have an incentive to share it as do others reliant on it. they pay for the use of bitcoin scarcity not the publication here"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978508758125834388) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-15T17:10Z 697.2K followers, 1535 engagements


"@nakadai_mon @NickSzabo4 it won't even change how as contiguous and non-contiguous taproot content is cheaper and miners and nodes can and were already bypassing the 80b op return policy for months with occasional test transactions relaying in the p2p network and getting mined in the next block"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978767415996526768) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-16T10:18Z 697.1K followers, XXX engagements


"@nakadai_mon @NickSzabo4 also as has repeatedly been explained no version of bitcoin wanted nor encouraged spam the hooks that were made were for small anchors hashes proofs for layer2 and app-devs. but it's not possible to prevent people stuffing data into any internet protocol headers fields or"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978767892897222726) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-16T10:20Z 697.1K followers, XXX engagements


"@nakadai_mon @NickSzabo4 similarly it's not possible to prevent people hiding content in programming languages (or english text). extracting data from various formats looks similarly complicated such that if you're not a programmer and don't know formats well it'd be quite hard"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978768395148378417) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-16T10:22Z 697.1K followers, XXX engagements


"@nakadai_mon @NickSzabo4 and this was true since jan 2009 bitcoin XXX. smaller fields so that data is chopped up don't really change things but if people think they do why not propose a maximum chunk size like @PortlandHODL did with 520b scriptPub soft-fork or a default policy without impacting limit"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978768844563902482) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-16T10:23Z 697.1K followers, XXX engagements


"@mykopikid @_DavidSFreeman @garland_key @cguida6 @satflation @rleder @giacomozucco @LukeDashjr @darosior @Pledditor they're certainly fighting against gravity but that doesn't mean the network is operating efficiently like that as the filtering nodes are partly leeching in the p2p network and degrading node performance and creating extra work for other nodes"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978769556349825535) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-16T10:26Z 697.1K followers, XXX engagements


"@mykopikid @_DavidSFreeman @garland_key @cguida6 @satflation @rleder @giacomozucco @LukeDashjr @darosior @Pledditor so we shouldn't use that as a "doesn't matter" excuse. it will probably create some work for developers to work around those issues with weak block and/or block-template gossip to fill in the missing transactions pre-emptively to make the network more robust to more filtering"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978769876484301094) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-16T10:27Z 697K followers, XXX engagements


"@BitcoinBombadil they're not"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978799567589323026) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-16T12:25Z 697.2K followers, 2260 engagements


"@CaminaDrummer4 @WillSuter10 @NickSzabo4 @colbyserpa @csuwildcat @ocean_mining sigh. it's a nothing burger both I and you if rational should be happy to flip a coin for 160b or 100kb datacarriersize. i've explained why repeatedly"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978803123855520118) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-16T12:40Z 697.1K followers, XXX engagements


"@BitcoinMotorist @csuwildcat sounds like virtue signaling. many of the developers were fighting spam back in 2013 before many (but not all) of the arguers who don't understand policy consensus architecture 2nd/3rd order effects hard-won legal precedents centralization side-effects. keep talking"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978805483151532084) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-16T12:49Z 697.1K followers, 1365 engagements


"They were previously sending spam in rows of fake pubkeys it's not even that high overhead of an encoding but it's harder to detect (in the limit you can't detect) and so harder to filter and far worse for node resources jamming up the utxo set. So while it's satisfying to fight the lower is not the spammer but us the node runners"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978818380246184273) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-16T13:40Z 697.1K followers, 2580 engagements


"@CaminaDrummer4 @WillSuter10 @NickSzabo4 @colbyserpa @csuwildcat @ocean_mining @PortlandHODL Social problems are presumably solved by social means. Eg more talking listening and putting aside insults bad-faith assumptions and just acknowledge the various conflicting concerns. We don't have to agree on the weight of concerns or tradeoffs to try address them"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978825403067224466) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-16T14:08Z 697K followers, XXX engagements


"@xst_block @BitcoinBombadil no i figured out the rationale ab-initio for myself it is clear and simple. no conspiracy bad-faith silliness needed. the one thing i think could've been done better more of a social logic is to set datacarriersize=160b. but as such it's moot either way"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978834686584529329) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-16T14:45Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@ToneVays @jimmysong can someone check real quick is it the case that @robin_linus is CTO of @citrea_xyz . news to me and can't find ref on website or google"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978846251954184251) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-16T15:31Z 697.1K followers, 2663 engagements


"@TylerCompiler @csuwildcat they're not degrading bitcoin as money"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978897791565869064) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-16T18:56Z 697.1K followers, XX engagements


"@lightcoin yes. and i linked this explaining it's similar as the person who sent the DA commitment transaction will have a motive or they wouldn't pay. and they need it to be scarce or DA resources become unpredictable"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1978911616084132147) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-16T19:51Z 697.1K followers, XXX engagements


"@lightcoin Maybe you're missing that the consensus rule with this variant of op return is that main + witness/4 + data/8 1Mb. So by using DA commitments you reduce main and witness space but I'm a way that is optional to sync/store/relay. So reserve in that sense. Again there is no"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979084017371623876) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T07:16Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@lightcoin assurance a miner would retain the data after it has handed it off to nodes. Or in fact most miners don't have the data pools do. And pools could likewise delete the data after handing it off to nodes. I think you are not thinking outside of the box of how Bitcoin works today"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979084719737159874) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T07:19Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@lightcoin That's roughly how this DA would work. The nodes that opt in to the DA would sync and share the DA data committed to on chain. Next onto storage incentive today for block data"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979090135464529986) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T07:40Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@lightcoin If you think about it the incentive for anyone to store block history and make it available is partly altruistic to help new nodes sync. But also mutual because if no one trustlessly proved history to new nodes Bitcoin wouldn't be as valuable to newcomers"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979091149152223687) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T07:44Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@lightcoin The space isn't getting "reserved" because no one has to let you take up that space after you pay for it. Making DA history available is analogous to bitcoin but a weaker incentive the layer2 power users services have a similar mutual incentive like with Bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979092039682629758) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T07:48Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@lightcoin In both the Bitcoin chain history and opt-in DA history case what you pay miners for is access to that block-size enforced scarcity made available by mutual interest to provide trustless sync to newcomers. That's it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979092523168469060) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T07:50Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@lightcoin Now an alternative version which is maybe more intuitive is if miners need to publish the DA data like with op return but the op return2 format is designed to make it easy for DA pruned nodes to not need the data as it's inert and they can check the commitment hash"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979093771812778052) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T07:54Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@MrHodl yes @jack is the VC funder of @ocean_mining which relies on the work of bitcoin developers over the last XX years. @grassfedbitcoin needs to chill - people can have different preferences for policy and peacefully co-exist"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979099285598740775) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T08:16Z 697.2K followers, 4898 engagements


"@oomahq @giacomozucco @_DavidSFreeman @coinjoined @start9labs @_MattHill_ it's not it's a false narrative. granted some people say that but i don't believe the developers think that at all. particularly nothing pieter said indicates that and he's the guy who wrote the rational doc on"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979114274413740288) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T09:16Z 697.2K followers, XX engagements


"@_DavidSFreeman @oomahq @giacomozucco @coinjoined @start9labs @_MattHill_ sauce "we made it up". even if one developer said something silly that doesn't make it the case as the technical consensus decision process would reject something brain dead like that as a motivator multiple regular contributors would be NACKing it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979114590026788993) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T09:17Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@oomahq @giacomozucco @_DavidSFreeman @coinjoined @start9labs @_MattHill_ and obviously there's zero consensus for tail-emission either. Peter Todd just likes to stir the pot sometimes"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979114877894414428) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T09:18Z 697.2K followers, XX engagements


"@MrHodl @w_s_bitcoin maybe you should've been on that pod"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979116295934124284) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T09:24Z 697.2K followers, 1415 engagements


"@oomahq @coinjoined @giacomozucco @_DavidSFreeman @start9labs @_MattHill_ @peterktodd it's like @coinjoined said the IETF-like technical consensus process makes decisions based on merit where anyone can make valid technical objections. so who proposed things is irrelevant. it could be an anonymous sock and in some cases it literally has been"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979125667095531632) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T10:01Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@_DavidSFreeman too many angry emotional people without any contextual understanding. luke himself is a contributor to bitcoin XX release. core knobs libre relay and knots are builds from the bitcoin XX code base"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979154727741845772) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T11:57Z 697.2K followers, 1747 engagements


"@_DavidSFreeman @Jethroe111 indeed he'll run bitcoin XX patched code and be happy :) and btw the safest is zero tweaks or minimal and well reviewed patches. more patches makes more risk of accidentally creating a security issue fork issue etc. knots has 28k lines and counting of little reviewed code"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979159439899763165) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T12:15Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@giacomozucco @oomahq @coinjoined @_DavidSFreeman @start9labs @_MattHill_ @peterktodd or maybe the boring reality is not as soap opera entertaining for people who thrive on drama really not seeing it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979209189093159391) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T15:33Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@CaminaDrummer4 btw @stephanlivera knows a lot about bitcoin details very thorough research going into any conversation. also a free market austrian outlook. to his credit he cut through all this drama and figured it out the fundamentals faster than most"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979209665318654355) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T15:35Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@ByteFederal bitcoin IS the hurlde rate👍 @APompliano"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979220717334941728) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T16:19Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@giacomozucco @soloyopee @oomahq @_DavidSFreeman @coinjoined @start9labs @_MattHill_ @csuwildcat Same logic as with CSW"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979255053379584460) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T18:35Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@CaminaDrummer4 @stephanlivera @LukeDashjr Dunno what you're talking about. There's no gaslighting but meh"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979258799450968207) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T18:50Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@calibrated_lies @PortlandHODL @BitcoinBombadil @BitcoinBugle @BitMEXResearch @Rob1Ham @MrHodl @w_s_bitcoin @MartyBent @PeterMcCormack @_DannyKnowles @DavidFBailey i'm not sure everything can be done at the consensus level - there is a difference because not all of the data you take into account with policy goes into the blockchain and some of it you can't prove eg sequence in which you received transactions. or it becomes more complicated"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979275663405195648) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T19:57Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@CaminaDrummer4 @stephanlivera @LukeDashjr losing track of who's claiming who lied. IMO luke is mischaracterizing what bitcoin XX is doing. it sets a default. knots can and does set a default. different users have different policy preferences and both builds of bitcoin XX (core and knots) enable users to change parameters"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979289755914273174) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T20:53Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@thetalevels @CaminaDrummer4 @stephanlivera @LukeDashjr that's been the case since jan 2009. also the contiguous vs not is a red-herring and anyway you can make contiguous images in taproot inscription via image tweaking. and none of it is readable without tools or programmer level knowledge of formats etc"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979293359450788088) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T21:08Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@CaminaDrummer4 @stephanlivera @kyletorpey it's true that luke seems mad that bitcoin XX made a policy default change. people point out that knots also has a default and users can change the defaults. i consider what luke says to be mischaracterizing the situation"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979302962791907746) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T21:46Z 697.3K followers, XX engagements


"@1914ad the claim is nonsense"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979311332944953485) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-17T22:19Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@MaxisClub @coinjoined @NickSzabo4 @DadGuy1986 @_DavidSFreeman @colbyserpa @csuwildcat @ocean_mining You need software either way they are all spam hiding in financial purposes fields. and there are contiguous inscriptions also (via image format tweaks)"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979462828676300900) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T08:21Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@giacomozucco @coinjoined @oomahq @csuwildcat @soloyopee @_DavidSFreeman @start9labs @_MattHill_ @giacomozucco AWA compelled deletion was the topic. I'd say that's clearly censorship and a potentially serious risk for Bitcoin. Please 🙏 focus on the point. To sidestep the silly semantics debate let's call it (state) compelled deletion"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979465751657320849) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T08:33Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@Arthur_van_Pelt obviously money. it's not even a serious question"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979470259808588048) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T08:51Z 697.2K followers, 1042 engagements


"@rektsorekt @1hmle @robin_linus i think bitcoin layer2s are good because they scale and add desirable properties to bitcoin (with tradeoffs). like lightning is faster cheaper and more private. fedimint is more scalable but adds stronger privacy. liquid is not as scalable but has confidentiality & auditability"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979473142763397575) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T09:02Z 697.3K followers, 2479 engagements


"@CaminaDrummer4 @stephanlivera @LukeDashjr i think you are simply not recognizing the more meta point being talked about and i assume @lukedashjr would've recognized it. i'm assuming @stephanlivera and @kyletorpey also. which is why we're having this odd conversation as you're the only one missing the context"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979490152096399487) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T10:10Z 697.2K followers, XX engagements


"@soloyopee @coryklippsten i agree. i think it's a bit of a political move but it would make sense. even for v31. btw i think 144b is a bit small it should probably be 256b because if this ever gets used with real value the keys are a bit small at 144b"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979508868293013804) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T11:24Z 697.3K followers, XX engagements


"@kyletorpey @rektsorekt @1hmle @robin_linus bitVM as a new building block may help make bitcoin L2s more secure. moving from k of n secure fedimint peg to X of n secure. bitcoin payment privacy and scalability focus. layer2's are good: they can add scale speed privacy or features. usually with a security tradeoff"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979523575972266034) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T12:22Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@kyletorpey @rektsorekt @1hmle @robin_linus efficiency of the L2 interface and L2 transaction to layer1 use matters: peg-in/out or channel setup/close or (worse) state diffs on chain. LN has some overhead for channel setup but i think quite high efficiency as the channels can net many LN payments during their lifetime"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979524047080677595) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T12:24Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@kyletorpey @rektsorekt @1hmle @robin_linus fedimint similarly or liquid and possibly even higher efficiency as users don't need channels just swaps. while bitVM is useful for many things as @kyletorpey said. @citrea_xyz is less efficient posting state diffs on chain. and the rollup/sidechain use is probably scammy"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979524540519612792) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T12:26Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements


"@kyletorpey @rektsorekt @1hmle @robin_linus @citrea_xyz ideally IMO we would want to find a way to ossify bitcoin after achieving a better L2/sidechain security assurance so that these tradeoffs can be had in layer2 space generally have the mainchain use focused on cold storage censorship resistant transactions"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979525096789115359) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T12:28Z 697.2K followers, XXX engagements


"@soloyopee @decentmoney2009 @coryklippsten yes eg some of the coinJoin related privacy solutions used op return or other layer1 chain space to coordinate trustless privacy swaps. and layer2s also take up mainchain space. LN uses extra transaction space for hashLocks splices and contest transactions for hostile close"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979525615020921126) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T12:30Z 697.2K followers, XX engagements


"@soloyopee @decentmoney2009 @coryklippsten note i'm not placing a big distinction between op return space and script space. they're just competing ways to store coordination data for financial transactions or layer2s"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979525785082839319) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T12:31Z 697.2K followers, XX engagements


"@AmethystWizard @kyletorpey @rektsorekt @1hmle @robin_linus isn't it a 144b commit 2x G1 points (32b) 1x G2 point (64b) and a hash (20b) (actually adds up to 148b they must be shaving 4b somehow). @robin_linus"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979527076752343053) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T12:36Z 697.3K followers, XX engagements


"@BetruetoitUK @uxerik_ increasing op return (to 160b or 256b) is a minor bug fix fake pubkeys are not a fixable exploit hence the mal-incentive bug fix and the 2014 start of op return op returns are intended for layer2 and layer1 financial transaction commitments anchors etc legal risks exist"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979536875145830698) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T13:15Z 697.2K followers, XX engagements


"@HodlsSherlock @BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco or maybe. it's like talking to a lawyer who strongly advises against doing something. some people will go find another lawyer until they find a low-tier lawyer will to take money to say what you want. and then get into trouble for the advice they shopped around for"  
[X Link](https://x.com/adam3us/status/1979537648952971265) [@adam3us](/creator/x/adam3us) 2025-10-18T13:18Z 697.3K followers, XXX engagements