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[@rdiandaru](/creator/twitter/rdiandaru)
"so i was reading about muon and the post is saying it's using some ad hoc gradient based approach to come up with these very specific coefficients. i couldn't find the source for reproducing these numbers though anybody got any idea where to look🗿 or a very general idea of how to get these numbers"  
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