[GUEST ACCESS MODE: Data is scrambled or limited to provide examples. Make requests using your API key to unlock full data. Check https://lunarcrush.ai/auth for authentication information.] [@AIMelGibson](/creator/twitter/AIMelGibson) "@annapanart @chatgpt21 My predication for AGI was 2029 I am looking at 2027 at the latest now. This paradigm shift is huge. This breakthrough is the biggest in the AI field so far imo. Learning in non verifiable domains has always been the ultimate challenge imo"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1946665148292251650) 2025-07-19 20:15:13 UTC XX followers, XX engagements "@MinuteMovies3 @chatgpt21 An earlier checkpoint of the RL backbone. Chat GPT Agent is also using a similar backbone. It is possible to use such as backbone as a orchestrator that guides the generation. fuzzy reward RL plus mid level chunk planning is what lets Sora maintain storyline and movement"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1947316977489326213) 2025-07-21 15:25:21 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements "@_A_Flow_In_Time @brndxix How does killing a bear close up change anything Shooting it from a distance and killing it in CQC results in a dead bear both are bad outcomes. Maybe we should stop killing bears and wild life and just act a bit more civil you know like human being that live in the year 2025"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1947057799881437572) 2025-07-20 22:15:28 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements "@FriesIlover49 @Angaisb_ I am XX percent sure it is using a similar reasoning core but an older checkpoint. Open AI staff have confirmed that Chat GPT Agent is also using an older checkpoint of the reasoning core"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1947042217446572333) 2025-07-20 21:13:33 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements "@VraserX @koltregaskes I imagine some sort of autoregressive audio generator would be the answer similar to what open AI did with their latest image generator. Moving away from diffusion and layering a sophisticated layering core into the architecture might be the answer. It would be expensive though"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1946876590178152835) 2025-07-20 10:15:24 UTC XX followers, XX engagements "@programmer_dude @TheRealAdamG @mathemagic1an @GoogleDeepMind Open AI most likely just have a better system than Google that is not to take away from Google's achievement it is also incredible"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1947381535667282071) 2025-07-21 19:41:53 UTC XX followers, XX engagements "@VraserX @btibor91 @swishfever GPT XXX will be AGI. Going to take a few iterations to get to a truly agentic and cross domain system that can perform at or above human level"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1946533267605184585) 2025-07-19 11:31:10 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements "@SerendipitousOr @daniel_mac8 GPT X isnt the finish line its the on ramp to rapid plug and play upgrades driven by dense reward RL. A model or series of models that can learn across domain and within a fuzzy reward space. O3 Alpha is one of these models"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1946917181981126849) 2025-07-20 12:56:42 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements "@giorgiottolina @basedjensen True but I think this still points towards a reasoning core that is capable of learning in a fuzzier reward domain. The only way I can imagine you could get gold on this math set. If both google and Open AI have stumbled across the same discovery that would be truly incredible"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1946593821069910306) 2025-07-19 15:31:47 UTC XX followers, XX engagements "@chatgpt21 @deredleritt3r Could potentially be the SEAL framework plus the new reasoning backbone that both of the Open AI models where using at IMO and AT Coder"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1947051968309965009) 2025-07-20 21:52:18 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements "@perceptron_elf @bindureddy This model got gold on IMO without tool use and no internet connection. More than likely we will be using this approach and tool use scaling. Plenty of gas left in LLM's"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1946988069074120918) 2025-07-20 17:38:23 UTC XX followers, XX engagements "@macosiossafari @iruletheworldmo @flowersslop This has a big model smell to it. My guess is an o3 finetune. Better RL and tool calling. If this is the OS model than it is fucking incredible because no other model comes close to this in terms of coding capabilities"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1946243685911290181) 2025-07-18 16:20:28 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements "@perceptron_elf @bindureddy Did you both just completely miss the new open AI reasoning model the one that got gold on IMO and placed 2nd in an elite coding tourney That reasoning core is going to be deployed into all of the new models. Massive gains with this new approach"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1946986808425808047) 2025-07-20 17:33:23 UTC XX followers, XX engagements "@chatgpt21 Yes I am very sure it will be using an autoregressive approach similar to their latest image gen. Potentially even using their new reasoning core to act as a Director or orchestrator of sorts"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1947313152678375457) 2025-07-21 15:10:09 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements "@slow_developer @polynoamial @OpenAI Most likely will be including in an iteration of GPT X but most likely not release GPT 5"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1946538920512000055) 2025-07-19 11:53:38 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements "@HisiDIssy @selini0 At most it is a different fine tune same base system is behind it and even the latest chat gpt agent. Although the chat gpt agent reasoning model is very old look at Jerry's thread"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1946869513443553683) 2025-07-20 09:47:17 UTC XX followers, XX engagements "@perceptron_elf @bindureddy It is capable of learning in fuzzier reward spaces and even non verifiable domains. And is a general purpose reasoning model. An older version of it is being used for their new Chat GPT Agent the latest version will be with us in a few months probably through GPT 5"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1946987024835072022) 2025-07-20 17:34:14 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements "@Hangsiin @isafulf @caseychu9 @EdwardSun0909 @sonyatweetybird Do you think this form of RL is self play then I have heard Noam Brown hit at it a few times"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1947660140129489214) 2025-07-22 14:08:57 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements "@perceptron_elf @bindureddy GPT X will be iteratively improved with this new approach"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1946987140027437097) 2025-07-20 17:34:42 UTC XX followers, XX engagements "@flowersslop GPT XXX will be the model that most of us can call AGI. GPT X will be impressive but whatever Noam and the team are working on is truly groundbreaking and I don't think it will be ready for the GPT X release. Check out his thread alot of juicy details in there"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1946537177573105948) 2025-07-19 11:46:42 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements "@MossyPathways @aidan_mclau @YouJiacheng But what we do know is that the same reasoning backbone was used across three domains computer use coding and Math. Albeit an older checkpoint for the Chat GPT Agent. Still incredibly impressive that both models are general but Open AI have the edge thus far"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1947372003704385838) 2025-07-21 19:04:00 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements "@chatgpt21 Yeah my timeline has shortened I reckon we have the remaining obstacles solved by 2027 I was thinking 2029 or 2030 for AGI originally. But you are XXX pecent correct there is still research to be done. My argument would be that the biggest obstacles have been toppled already"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1947329475458248975) 2025-07-21 16:15:01 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements "@programmer_dude @TheRealAdamG @mathemagic1an @GoogleDeepMind They can be made exactly verifiable but the proofs that come out of an IMO contestant (or these new models) arent in that machine checkable format. That fuzziness is why OpenAI and Google had to invent a some sort of step level reward model:"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1947381175732863226) 2025-07-21 19:40:27 UTC XX followers, XX engagements "@iruletheworldmo @xai XAI are locked in on gooner content and products right now"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1948167012200435849) 2025-07-23 23:43:05 UTC XX followers, XX engagements "@philtrem22 @fchollet Open AI's model was also trained on way less IMO specific data we are talking 1-2 percent of it's corpus. It appears Open AI have created the backbone of a AGI level system. That can learn in non verifiable domains and generalize to an almost human level"  [@AIMelGibson](/creator/x/AIMelGibson) on [X](/post/tweet/1947371360340045876) 2025-07-21 19:01:27 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements
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"@annapanart @chatgpt21 My predication for AGI was 2029 I am looking at 2027 at the latest now. This paradigm shift is huge. This breakthrough is the biggest in the AI field so far imo. Learning in non verifiable domains has always been the ultimate challenge imo"
@AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-19 20:15:13 UTC XX followers, XX engagements
"@MinuteMovies3 @chatgpt21 An earlier checkpoint of the RL backbone. Chat GPT Agent is also using a similar backbone. It is possible to use such as backbone as a orchestrator that guides the generation. fuzzy reward RL plus mid level chunk planning is what lets Sora maintain storyline and movement" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-21 15:25:21 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements
"@_A_Flow_In_Time @brndxix How does killing a bear close up change anything Shooting it from a distance and killing it in CQC results in a dead bear both are bad outcomes. Maybe we should stop killing bears and wild life and just act a bit more civil you know like human being that live in the year 2025" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-20 22:15:28 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements
"@FriesIlover49 @Angaisb_ I am XX percent sure it is using a similar reasoning core but an older checkpoint. Open AI staff have confirmed that Chat GPT Agent is also using an older checkpoint of the reasoning core" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-20 21:13:33 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements
"@VraserX @koltregaskes I imagine some sort of autoregressive audio generator would be the answer similar to what open AI did with their latest image generator. Moving away from diffusion and layering a sophisticated layering core into the architecture might be the answer. It would be expensive though" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-20 10:15:24 UTC XX followers, XX engagements
"@programmer_dude @TheRealAdamG @mathemagic1an @GoogleDeepMind Open AI most likely just have a better system than Google that is not to take away from Google's achievement it is also incredible" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-21 19:41:53 UTC XX followers, XX engagements
"@VraserX @btibor91 @swishfever GPT XXX will be AGI. Going to take a few iterations to get to a truly agentic and cross domain system that can perform at or above human level" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-19 11:31:10 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements
"@SerendipitousOr @daniel_mac8 GPT X isnt the finish line its the on ramp to rapid plug and play upgrades driven by dense reward RL. A model or series of models that can learn across domain and within a fuzzy reward space. O3 Alpha is one of these models" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-20 12:56:42 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements
"@giorgiottolina @basedjensen True but I think this still points towards a reasoning core that is capable of learning in a fuzzier reward domain. The only way I can imagine you could get gold on this math set. If both google and Open AI have stumbled across the same discovery that would be truly incredible" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-19 15:31:47 UTC XX followers, XX engagements
"@chatgpt21 @deredleritt3r Could potentially be the SEAL framework plus the new reasoning backbone that both of the Open AI models where using at IMO and AT Coder" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-20 21:52:18 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements
"@perceptron_elf @bindureddy This model got gold on IMO without tool use and no internet connection. More than likely we will be using this approach and tool use scaling. Plenty of gas left in LLM's" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-20 17:38:23 UTC XX followers, XX engagements
"@macosiossafari @iruletheworldmo @flowersslop This has a big model smell to it. My guess is an o3 finetune. Better RL and tool calling. If this is the OS model than it is fucking incredible because no other model comes close to this in terms of coding capabilities" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-18 16:20:28 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements
"@perceptron_elf @bindureddy Did you both just completely miss the new open AI reasoning model the one that got gold on IMO and placed 2nd in an elite coding tourney That reasoning core is going to be deployed into all of the new models. Massive gains with this new approach" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-20 17:33:23 UTC XX followers, XX engagements
"@chatgpt21 Yes I am very sure it will be using an autoregressive approach similar to their latest image gen. Potentially even using their new reasoning core to act as a Director or orchestrator of sorts" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-21 15:10:09 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements
"@slow_developer @polynoamial @OpenAI Most likely will be including in an iteration of GPT X but most likely not release GPT 5" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-19 11:53:38 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements
"@HisiDIssy @selini0 At most it is a different fine tune same base system is behind it and even the latest chat gpt agent. Although the chat gpt agent reasoning model is very old look at Jerry's thread" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-20 09:47:17 UTC XX followers, XX engagements
"@perceptron_elf @bindureddy It is capable of learning in fuzzier reward spaces and even non verifiable domains. And is a general purpose reasoning model. An older version of it is being used for their new Chat GPT Agent the latest version will be with us in a few months probably through GPT 5" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-20 17:34:14 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements
"@Hangsiin @isafulf @caseychu9 @EdwardSun0909 @sonyatweetybird Do you think this form of RL is self play then I have heard Noam Brown hit at it a few times" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-22 14:08:57 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements
"@perceptron_elf @bindureddy GPT X will be iteratively improved with this new approach" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-20 17:34:42 UTC XX followers, XX engagements
"@flowersslop GPT XXX will be the model that most of us can call AGI. GPT X will be impressive but whatever Noam and the team are working on is truly groundbreaking and I don't think it will be ready for the GPT X release. Check out his thread alot of juicy details in there" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-19 11:46:42 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements
"@MossyPathways @aidan_mclau @YouJiacheng But what we do know is that the same reasoning backbone was used across three domains computer use coding and Math. Albeit an older checkpoint for the Chat GPT Agent. Still incredibly impressive that both models are general but Open AI have the edge thus far" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-21 19:04:00 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements
"@chatgpt21 Yeah my timeline has shortened I reckon we have the remaining obstacles solved by 2027 I was thinking 2029 or 2030 for AGI originally. But you are XXX pecent correct there is still research to be done. My argument would be that the biggest obstacles have been toppled already" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-21 16:15:01 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements
"@programmer_dude @TheRealAdamG @mathemagic1an @GoogleDeepMind They can be made exactly verifiable but the proofs that come out of an IMO contestant (or these new models) arent in that machine checkable format. That fuzziness is why OpenAI and Google had to invent a some sort of step level reward model:" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-21 19:40:27 UTC XX followers, XX engagements
"@iruletheworldmo @xai XAI are locked in on gooner content and products right now" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-23 23:43:05 UTC XX followers, XX engagements
"@philtrem22 @fchollet Open AI's model was also trained on way less IMO specific data we are talking 1-2 percent of it's corpus. It appears Open AI have created the backbone of a AGI level system. That can learn in non verifiable domains and generalize to an almost human level" @AIMelGibson on X 2025-07-21 19:01:27 UTC XX followers, XXX engagements