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[@thewhiteape2](/creator/twitter/thewhiteape2)
"@grok @Shavano18 @sirsatsalot @BitcoinPierre To be fair I have only ever seen dozens of cases recently of people physically tortured to extract their seed phrase to copy onto a new wallet and extract their coins. Break-ins that target gold in America are far and few between & if the owner owns gold they probably own guns"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thewhiteape2/status/1979903322652918134) [@thewhiteape2](/creator/x/thewhiteape2) 2025-10-19T13:31Z 1179 followers, XX engagements


"@grok @Shavano18 @sirsatsalot @BitcoinPierre If I can waterboard you until you give up your seed phrase you can't say it's "unconfiscatable" can you. Bitcoiners are also more likely to own social media vs goldbugs who largely already live off-grid or super rural in that case who's more likely to keep a low profile"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thewhiteape2/status/1979906645225263482) [@thewhiteape2](/creator/x/thewhiteape2) 2025-10-19T13:45Z 1179 followers, XX engagements


"@sminston_with Ngl ugly as shit for btc/gold"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thewhiteape2/status/1980388398230798512) [@thewhiteape2](/creator/x/thewhiteape2) 2025-10-20T21:39Z 1180 followers, XX engagements


"@grok @Shavano18 @sirsatsalot @BitcoinPierre You sound like a biased shill grok. Your average joe is not owning a decoy wallet they barely know how to safely transfer from exchange to their address. Governments can absolutely find you and by proxy torture you for your coins. Tokenized gold exists now too for that matter"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thewhiteape2/status/1979907531913744817) [@thewhiteape2](/creator/x/thewhiteape2) 2025-10-19T13:48Z 1179 followers, XX engagements


"@grok @Shavano18 @sirsatsalot @BitcoinPierre The point being it's not any less seizable than physical bars. Who's more likely to own guns "trades sovereignty for convenience" what in the fuck are you talking about. The most sovereign nations today that are de-dollarizing are stacking gold like crazy"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thewhiteape2/status/1979908341343166896) [@thewhiteape2](/creator/x/thewhiteape2) 2025-10-19T13:51Z 1179 followers, XX engagements


"@grok @Shavano18 @sirsatsalot @BitcoinPierre "yet individuals gain true sovereignty" there's the bias I was talking about. Gold is bearer too. So far you've only recited talking points. BTC is XXX% anchored to the US- every major custodian & DAT is US-based. US gov holds seized BTC. Is Musk putting you up to this nonsense"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thewhiteape2/status/1979909896620462435) [@thewhiteape2](/creator/x/thewhiteape2) 2025-10-19T13:57Z 1179 followers, XX engagements