[GUEST ACCESS MODE: Data is scrambled or limited to provide examples. Make requests using your API key to unlock full data. Check https://lunarcrush.ai/auth for authentication information.] [@tribunaltweets](/creator/twitter/tribunaltweets) "I didnt recall it and was asked to look for it NC You were never asked until v recently to trawl for any material that wld fall into that order KS As part of this process I dont recall all emails. We were asked for emails that pertained. I dont recall being asked to trawl my"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947658826603209014) 2025-07-22 14:03:44 UTC 41.2K followers, 42.3K engagements "NC - have seeking out a witness to pending tribunal procedings KS - no business. NC - you were determined on DU behalf to round up support for his turn of events weren't you KS - I asked her to see if her story supported Beth NC - were you horrified when I mentioned her name"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948013147169632476) 2025-07-23 13:31:41 UTC 41.2K followers, 6178 engagements "LC - unacceptable tone mainly the threatening behaviour Jr - examples of harassing behaviours = types LC - yes gender reassignment gender identity failure to use requested pronouns Why is this relevant LC - because trans people come under protected charas"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946191583532962015) 2025-07-18 12:53:26 UTC 41.1K followers, 70.9K engagements "KS I agree we shldnt have written these things in this group. I cant say whether it's been withheld. I dont think u can prove the emails were linked NC These emails werent produced for the 1st hearings were they KS It appears not NC There were X of you in this chain"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947665871394029765) 2025-07-22 14:31:44 UTC 41.2K followers, 309.2K engagements "It is now 10:35 am. The in person observers & press have not yet been admitted to the hearing rooms"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945417423747735651) 2025-07-16 09:37:12 UTC 40.4K followers, 40.9K engagements "his not reporting is a neglect of his duty LC I can't speak to why it didn't come to me NC he didn't perform this duty LC can't comment not involved NC if false it's a damaging lie so serious"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946215481808945654) 2025-07-18 14:28:24 UTC 40.9K followers, 21.3K engagements "KS It cld have been talking w SP NC Is it plausible u discussed it KS DU was v upset so wld have been approp to take further to ensure e'one is safe in kind and compassionate way NC Are u suggesting an informal discussion wld have been appropriate"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947671153306440038) 2025-07-22 14:52:43 UTC 41.2K followers, 47.9K engagements "G C belief - that sex matters GM don't understand q NC I'll leave it there. NC It was obvious re suspension/ d/x process that SP was unhappy. That she felt f cr being used by man intimidating and humiliating. GM Yes on Xmas eve NC ED doesn't doubt genuineness of SP feelings"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945840404718297456) 2025-07-17 13:37:59 UTC 40.6K followers, 11.7K engagements "NC 12th January email from KS to all the same people in to or CC line but with the addition of Dr Upton. Compare those two emails the people they are addressed to same subject line but prefixed 're:' this suggests this is a response to something LC I don' tknow"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946217508328919071) 2025-07-18 14:36:27 UTC 39.9K followers, 19.5K engagements "regards an email discussion group seemingly NC new doc U notice the subject line is PC incident. An email from you of XX Jan is a re email. Curren's email was on X Jan. So yrs is a reply to MC KS I dont agree"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947661470239506579) 2025-07-22 14:14:14 UTC 41.2K followers, 40.9K engagements "nurses welfare GM y NC So if you thought that it was an affront to dignity etc of your nurses to let a t man use the cr it would up to you to speak up about that GM yes NC LM email to you re mtg with SP X March. LM records SP asks why DU couldn't be moved/ asked to change"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945837831739322680) 2025-07-17 13:27:45 UTC 40.6K followers, 9371 engagements "NC one alt to SP was to change in toilet LC - yes NC youve seen her in there LC yes regularly NC - nurses need to change at work for reasons of hygiene LC - I didn't say change in the toilets. SP didn't ask what alternatives were"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946211095389098412) 2025-07-18 14:10:58 UTC 40.5K followers, 25.6K engagements "NC: Your letter of 28/3 - re day shifts and supervising - the only reason for it wd be patient safety claimed reasons CM: Not really - wd always suggest days for a phased RtW bcs that's when line managers etc are around. So first month wd usually be days"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947289755827286107) 2025-07-21 13:37:11 UTC 41K followers, 18.1K engagements "(mentions other emails senior support ED) ED email 3rd April Lottie this is a compromise Email from GM always a Band X but reasonable to have band X Mentions other emails Why was it felt that SP needed senior support Lc - important because of allegations. If she needed to talk"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946196406227648875) 2025-07-18 13:12:36 UTC 41.1K followers, 19.5K engagements "It's a decision made at birth by the ppl delivering the baby I believe. I'm not an expert at it. NC So sex assigned at birth is whether u have a M or F body Yes NC Bio sex is very important lists re responses to drugs normal ranges for bld results KS Yes"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947669136017912103) 2025-07-22 14:44:42 UTC 41.2K followers, 505.3K engagements "CM: Phone conv - ED and LC on speakerphone said it was the wrong decision I said it was my decision - J: asks for slow-down to take notes"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947277373172248979) 2025-07-21 12:47:59 UTC 41.1K followers, 21K engagements "LC - there is nothing I can do to ease Sandies anxiety but there were alternatives given to her to ease that. NC - when she asked you those questions you didn't treat it as unreasonable Her problem with Upton using that CR LC no she could ask that not unreasonable to ask"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946210254569500968) 2025-07-18 14:07:38 UTC 39.2K followers, 25.2K engagements "NC I suggest u conspired not to produce it Absolutely not. I'm a dr and trustworthy. NC Yr regulator wld be concerned about this if you hadnt KS we have to work w honesty and integrity"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947666585310659019) 2025-07-22 14:34:34 UTC 41.2K followers, 359.7K engagements "NC - do you agree therefore that it was inappropriate that KS said that DU had the support of the senior dr and nursing teams LC agrees NC email MC to ED you (and others) headline protected characteristic incident. Maggie talks about any need for investigation but ED can't do"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946216971608989995) 2025-07-18 14:34:19 UTC 41.2K followers, 21.1K engagements "NC: What about ED and LC how did they make feelings known. CM: Was again when discussing shifts they raised what MC and KS had raised I asked whether reported/escalated they couldn't give me any info re dates was just hearsay. SP had no complaints previously"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947278332594110821) 2025-07-21 12:51:47 UTC 41.2K followers, 33.9K engagements "NC - if the Tribunal finds that C did not ask DU about his genes it was not appropriate for her to tell DU shouldn't be in changing room GM - clarify NC - if SP had only said she didn't think DU should be in f cr. GM - it had been addressed we had taken advice DU was"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945806386476007915) 2025-07-17 11:22:48 UTC 40.4K followers, 25.1K engagements "NC - so if I ask you to pick out the worst thing what is it GM - she keeps telling Beth that she finds him intimidating and keeps repeating that NC - so what was happening here was that SP was saying that sex matters in this situation you may want to pretend you're a woman"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945813218540048834) 2025-07-17 11:49:57 UTC 41.1K followers, 29.5K engagements "the allegations so is plural NC - thank you yes. But again that tends to support the suggestion that you were relying on the seriousness of the Christmas Eve allegation to suspend. GM - I think it was all the incidents NC - did you see the detail GM - I don't recall"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945802405263687799) 2025-07-17 11:06:59 UTC 39.3K followers, 15.1K engagements "to change in GM If we are talking about biological sex then yes NC SS spaces for staff provision is conduct related to sex. That is obvious. JR objects J reasonable q to ask NC This is to do with sex GM Guidance re t member staff was to allow to use f cr so not re sex"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945839328107601975) 2025-07-17 13:33:42 UTC 40.6K followers, 11.1K engagements "seems a bit harsh language does not acknowledge GC beliefs that they need to be taken into consideration JR - now on to changing facilities and showers please read and explain to the ET how that aligns to your understanding of the topic IB reading"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945433092870509051) 2025-07-16 10:39:28 UTC 40.9K followers, 27.9K engagements "We're tweeting the second afternoon session of Peggie v Fife NHS Board and Dr Upton. Naomi Cunningham will be cross examining ED consultant Kate Searle"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947656145868308870) 2025-07-22 13:53:05 UTC 41.2K followers, 167.8K engagements "NC: Cd you tell tribunal begin with Kate Searle CM: Was in KS office - NC: Why were you there CM: To discuss shifts to get both staff back in workplace. KS expressed unhappiness re SP coming back said patient safety issues had been raised said racist to a doctor"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947277897602863478) 2025-07-21 12:50:04 UTC 41.1K followers, 26.2K engagements "JR - obs are observatins KS - yes ecg blood pressure etc and documenting on chart. JR - 2nd incident KS - Beth called patient didn't respond to call patient presented with MH crisis I think concerned. Peggie was triage nurse asked if concern over leaving"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947624729197597078) 2025-07-22 11:48:15 UTC 41.2K followers, 27.8K engagements "KS I asked IB and there's no other policy to dispute this NC IB told the tribunal that she doesnt know if she's F or M. Do u know yr F It's on my birth certificate But u know yr F KS That's the gender that was given to me at birth. The sex"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947668900943966384) 2025-07-22 14:43:46 UTC 41.2K followers, 96.3K engagements "We begin. J - before we start - considered press release of XX jul addressed in submission. No order in realtion to it. Can sit late if needed. Assume you are Miss Harris. Which oath Takes oath. J - explains need for slow answers and speaking up"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947995387203088684) 2025-07-23 12:21:06 UTC 41.2K followers, 23.3K engagements ".but would have referred to Elspeth if she wanted that support. JR - no more questions J - a break now ten minutes"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946196916368249272) 2025-07-18 13:14:38 UTC 41.2K followers, 29.7K engagements "re how she felt about DU CM Not happy w him but more to do with the event that happened. I was reassured she wldnt treat a T patient any differently than another. So felt her feelings were circumstantial to the sitn JR Read these pages reads re SP feeling sorry for TG and"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947246664516784240) 2025-07-21 10:45:57 UTC 41.2K followers, 58.3K engagements "CM: My decision was to have both staff members back in the dept had had meeting with SP and done full risk assessment"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947277504336601108) 2025-07-21 12:48:30 UTC 41.1K followers, 20.3K engagements "P: You said "on shift" CM: Yes we went into the wellness room - there were a few tears it was a difficult conversation but I was glad to be able to explain to DU in person"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947300731381243935) 2025-07-21 14:20:48 UTC 41.2K followers, 81.3K engagements "NC by this date reading out Were u aware of it KS An order for documents I.I'm not sure. I don't know NC An email between u and IB on XXX that was provided to the C's before the order was made. Did u provide it/ KS I've trawled all my emails but before this I wasnt"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947658083716546794) 2025-07-22 14:00:47 UTC 41.1K followers, 46.1K engagements "Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr B Upton is scheduled to resume today at XX am. There may well be delays as it is the first hearing day with the new remote access arrangements. We wish to address the matter of our live text based communications"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945377408321716556) 2025-07-16 06:58:12 UTC 41.1K followers, 186.7K engagements "that ED shouldn't be involved. MC says ED can't do investigating but days later now ED is still investigating LC - I really don't know. I don't know who authorised ED first place NC if this is right that XXX is a reply to MC email of 5January are you surprised no responses"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946218292802130034) 2025-07-18 14:39:34 UTC 39.3K followers, 20K engagements "any tensions LH - no JR - aware of tensions with other staff over DU use of F CR LH - no JR - another doc 1253 email from MC to you and others 3rd para SP also referred to NMC Know anything that LH - no JR - another doc XXX GM sent to LC and you and ED and KT OfS"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947997158634095035) 2025-07-23 12:28:09 UTC 41.2K followers, 18.6K engagements "The fourth day of the July hearing of Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr B Upton is due to start at 10am. We anticipate a discussion regarding NHS Fife's statement of 18.7.2025 before the next witness Charlotte Myles is called"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947205010908946929) 2025-07-21 08:00:26 UTC 41.2K followers, 180.5K engagements "I said I'd spoken w SP and wld be having a mtg. I wasnt surprised by req for MSP to attend as was used to this type of thing. JR The SX RA filled in by CM Me JR Who completed the summary I did. It was a summary of the actual meeting. JR Look at p1334"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947242626639372441) 2025-07-21 10:29:54 UTC 41.1K followers, 26.1K engagements "GC /SR: gender critical or sex realists. Belief that biological sex is important immutable and different from gender identity GI Gender identity is a person's internal sense of their own gender which may or may not align with their birth sex"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947561944312922272) 2025-07-22 07:38:46 UTC 41.2K followers, 45.7K engagements "NC: So on 12/3 you wrote to SP saying you were revoking the suspension CM: Yes NC: You met SP 7/3 satisified yourself esp re risk you presumably didn't fill in the form on the spot CM: No - took shorthand notes and filled out later"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947279532307693822) 2025-07-21 12:56:33 UTC 41.2K followers, 21.9K engagements "If there's a workforce issue someone more senior shld do this work before Beth came to me KS Beth has every right to use the facilities she wants under the GRA. NC What did u look at to satisfy yrself KS If u google it there's many refs for trans ppl and CR"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947668271823532533) 2025-07-22 14:41:16 UTC 41.2K followers, 82.1K engagements "We will shortly be reporting from day X of the July hearing of Sandie Peggie v Fife Health Board and Dr Upton. The first session is due to start at 11.30am when Naomi Cunningham (NC) will continue her cross examination of Emergency Dept Consultant Dr Kate Searle (KS)"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947963689966903583) 2025-07-23 10:15:09 UTC 41.2K followers, 86K engagements "NC - a request made in September unfortunately you are muddling up the suspension checklist with the risk assessment. I need the original risk assessment. It doesn't seem that any risk assessment was actually done by ED at the time. GM - I can't recall"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945802723997184408) 2025-07-17 11:08:15 UTC 41K followers, 16.6K engagements "JR - refers to your informing lauren LC - I said to kate I would speak to Lauren next time I saw her. (missed) JR - conv with Miss Peggie - two accounts. in notes When did this happen LC- with SP Sat XX Dec around 4pm"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946194004950835571) 2025-07-18 13:03:03 UTC 41.1K followers, 35.5K engagements "the woman's changing room. GM - she was upset with DU being in the CR NC - is there nothing in that statement that indicates that she was upset that a man was in the woman's changing room GM - Beth "SP kept saying I was not a woman' NC - doesn't that mean that he's a man"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945814354420535609) 2025-07-17 11:54:28 UTC 41.1K followers, 15.4K engagements "missed NC men generally stronger/more of a threat to women. IB When you talk c tw and tm risk is significantly less. NC You are saying men in general are greater threat to women than vice IB TW are different from other men in level of threat they present"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945473910046175571) 2025-07-16 13:21:39 UTC 40.4K followers, 54.1K engagements "JR - statement to AG. Read Q11 and your answer to yourself you say 'we were aware' who were you talking about EP - the ED consultants JR - how did you become aware EP - the consultants meet on a monthly basis one of the senior nurses said a concern had been raised about DU"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946149605726384262) 2025-07-18 10:06:38 UTC 39.3K followers, 15.3K engagements "NC - for reasons of hygiene it is unacceptable to change in toilet LC yes but people do that. there is a pause in proceedings"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946211325891276965) 2025-07-18 14:11:53 UTC 40.9K followers, 34.4K engagements "GC /SR: gender critical or sex realists. Belief that biological sex is important immutable and different from gender identity GI Gender identity is a person's internal sense of their own gender which may or may not align with their birth sex"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947205028453716117) 2025-07-21 08:00:30 UTC 41.1K followers, 37.9K engagements "CM: Wd really have to think about this - can't answer now. NC : Not fair to compromise XXX women to satisfy X man. CM: Dr U identifies as a woman that's how I think so that's not what it was"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947300024708206601) 2025-07-21 14:17:59 UTC 41.2K followers, 104.4K engagements "NC it's not exact LC - to give me prompts in future NC- eg of this in last para - she told me she had confronted the dr and advised she should not be in there because she is not female. But SP says he doesn't she LC - I don't recall. NC - SP didn't use word confront"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946204654485860361) 2025-07-18 13:45:23 UTC 41.1K followers, 18.8K engagements "Panel You were asked re your role and you said you offered leadership with no direct reports. What are you responsible for. GM inc Governance complaints adverse events and provide leadership for directorship - patient care standards P You have no direct line management"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945854595722322302) 2025-07-17 14:34:22 UTC 40.4K followers, 15.8K engagements "isla Bryson sorry Isla bumba KS - JR - on the changing room 26th Aug 2023 incident did she say KS - not sure we talked on 29th dec might have been mentioned before and why I wrote 8th Dec. JR - you reviewed hate policy quick look then likely break fo rlunch"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947626338447200336) 2025-07-22 11:54:38 UTC 41.2K followers, 75.9K engagements "NC: ref this is letter from you 28/3 to SP telling her risk assessment says return to work with diff shift pattern from DU shd be explored. You mention assemessment of risk - you made the assessment during 7/3 mtg and said propose to revoke end of that day CM Yes"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947276743854747971) 2025-07-21 12:45:29 UTC 41.1K followers, 19.9K engagements "JR you were asked if SP should be asked to change in front of a man. Do you think Dr U is a man LC - no I don't"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946221131238699031) 2025-07-18 14:50:51 UTC 40.4K followers, 45.3K engagements "EP - what I understood to be the tone the tone was said in an aggressive and an unkind way. JR - Did DU refer to anything about demeanour EP - in the CR JR - yes EP - she said she felt cornered JR - what do you thinks he meant by that EP - I did not interpret it it was what"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946143831285453255) 2025-07-18 09:43:41 UTC 41.2K followers, 40.3K engagements "and it would have been career ending if reported to NMC LC - can't comment on what NMC would do NC - email from KS to DU you're not copied have you seen this before. LC No NC do you want to read it now LC -Yes please"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946215782423151021) 2025-07-18 14:29:36 UTC 40.1K followers, 20.1K engagements ".with SP has been linked to behaviours of members of the public. There are factual inaccuracies that will be dealt with on Monday. The short point is that this is unusual conduct. It is irresponsible in the context of what we already know. It is for this reason we bring"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946230038010966379) 2025-07-18 15:26:14 UTC 40.4K followers, 19.7K engagements "NC - not for her but for the consequences for you of making up something she said KS - no absolutely not. NC - moving onto Xmas eve. JR - KS is becoming visibly distressed J - break KS - no thank you. NC - page XXX please. 2nd email is DU to you in small hours Xmas am"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948013511348539726) 2025-07-23 13:33:08 UTC 41.2K followers, 7544 engagements "The Tribunal in Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr Upton is not expected to be in public session before 11:30 today Kate Searle A&E consultant expected to continue giving evidence then"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947946887740326028) 2025-07-23 09:08:23 UTC 41.2K followers, 53.6K engagements "NC - you din't relay that message ED LC - don't know NC - but 'we were advised.this was relayed to Sandie' LC-Esther had said NC - nurses hadn't been told LC no NC where do you change LC my office NC - when did you last use them to change"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946210531196440958) 2025-07-18 14:08:44 UTC 41.1K followers, 32.1K engagements "KS SO we cld all support Beth if she felt unable to work or if she needed any support. JR Can u estimate how many colleagues XX at that time JR Can you read "Beth was approached" Why say this KS Beth perceived active confrontation was aggressive in manner"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947647199518544021) 2025-07-22 13:17:32 UTC 41.2K followers, 44.3K engagements "JR - March page 1356 this email you to LM XX March about shifts on graduated return why was this being sent to Lottie LC - that Sandie should be fully supported and allocated shifts for senior support. JR - p330 emails other bundle. 2nd and 3rd April. LM email to you and ED"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946196004946026864) 2025-07-18 13:11:00 UTC 41.1K followers, 20.1K engagements "KS Like the GMC we have to act w/out discrim and with kindness and compassion at all times. I dont recall this nor know if a referral to NMC was made. JR new doc Response from MC to the consultants: what did u make of it"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947652313252077850) 2025-07-22 13:37:51 UTC 41.2K followers, 25K engagements "LC - 2020 prior to promotion NC so this policy we heard from EP informal meetings between consultants and senior nurses this policy of letting upton using Cr was not communicated to those expect to undress in front a man LC - I wasn't at that meeting"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946210784343650488) 2025-07-18 14:09:44 UTC 41K followers, 31.4K engagements "IB Don't agree with your definition of bio sex. Much more complicated than that. Don't know anything c Beth's body. No one knows what their chromosomes are. NC What you understand by tw IB Someone ama b and living as a woman. NC So no one af ab had a sss cr"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945485101225201934) 2025-07-16 14:06:08 UTC 41.1K followers, 105.3K engagements "JR: And homophobic comments CM: Just told she disapproved of ppl being gay - was told unhappy bcs her daughter gay - but I don't know at all"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947303752681111989) 2025-07-21 14:32:48 UTC 41.2K followers, 471.6K engagements "was to tell her suspension was to be lifted GM Don't agree NC That decision to lift suspension was cos MG was objecting to suspension on no proper grounds. GM missed NC Friday X March you to MJ - further risk assessment supported returning to workplace on different"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945835280738513109) 2025-07-17 13:17:37 UTC 40.6K followers, 16.1K engagements "KS rapist. She felt it was a reference to that. So why interp as offensive or harassing phrase in the Datix JR Whats harrassing or offensive about it KS To be compared as a T IDed M to being like a rapist is extremely extremely offensive"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947645831944749373) 2025-07-22 13:12:06 UTC 41.2K followers, 26.1K engagements "Christmas Day.; NC - what exactly was unacceptable about it GM - a discriminatory allegation NC - what specifically is discriminatory GM - nurse asked the dr about his genes NC - is that the worse thing to your mind GM - not considering the Datix that's worst thing"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945805918991425991) 2025-07-17 11:20:57 UTC 41.1K followers, 48.7K engagements "This is part III of our afternoon coverage of Peggie v NHS Fife & Dr B Upton"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945853426648187209) 2025-07-17 14:29:43 UTC 41.1K followers, 68.7K engagements "KS I wldnt normally ask this but I wanted to make sure she was comfortable doing this as aware she's a T female. A short convo only and no instruction. NC new doc In yr evidence in chief u said Beth reads from before What's happened is u treated as self evident he was"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947667498771616125) 2025-07-22 14:38:12 UTC 41.2K followers, 60.1K engagements "unfortunately paras X and X of this press statement seem to do that. If i can finish. If we look at para X that's identifying the CEO of Sex Matters and the claimants barrister and describes that orgs involvement in the media and suggests it's involved in steering public opinion"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946229283568918994) 2025-07-18 15:23:15 UTC 40.1K followers, 18.6K engagements "NC - but you said he is in the dept enough to know Beth and because people saw him regularly then you know that people only have to see Dr U to see he's not female. No Are you saying you weren't aware he's a man Not at first not until engaged in conversation. Not sure what diff"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946209365674869224) 2025-07-18 14:04:06 UTC 41.1K followers, 25K engagements "NC: 12/3 told SP re revoking - JR: told at meeting confirmed 12/3 NC: Yes thank you. Then we have the risk assessment *form* is dated missed"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947279857823404265) 2025-07-21 12:57:51 UTC 41.1K followers, 23.9K engagements "She relied on the code of practice. NC Try again. Women who believe bio sex is real and sometimes matters my see t id men as men not woman. They still see a man if that's what they think. GM yes NC So if you provide ss bio spaces for staff it's to do with SP"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945840016007065812) 2025-07-17 13:36:26 UTC 41.1K followers, 11.7K engagements "J If discussing if someone being suspended and it's based around risk assess could you have discussion in absence of risk assessment in writing GM no J All risk assess carried out in writing GM yes"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945857198174642207) 2025-07-17 14:44:42 UTC 40.6K followers, 14K engagements "NC Probably need a break for court stenographers Short break"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945475353784283642) 2025-07-16 13:27:24 UTC 41.1K followers, 22.4K engagements "suspension was because of her gender critical belief. GM - the suspension was because of the risk assessment that was done NC - so the entire suspension process was because of her GC belief JR - a multi part question NC - I thought we had agreed that SP was complaining about"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945815333152985479) 2025-07-17 11:58:21 UTC 40.9K followers, 16.9K engagements "NC I'm suggesting we dont see this subject line v often. We see catch up and HI but isnt used commonly. we see an email chain at XXX to the same group that MC was emailing on X Jan that we've looked at. But not copied to MC's email at the bottom"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947664062768144431) 2025-07-22 14:24:33 UTC 41.2K followers, 38.2K engagements "KS safety JR When did this discusssion take place KS I dont recall exactly JR Where KS In the charge nurse office in ED JR ANyone else there KS No. Just me and ED JR new page Email X Jan to you refers to the NMC. Can u explain anything about it KS I dont recall"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947651978630173150) 2025-07-22 13:36:31 UTC 41.2K followers, 20.9K engagements "LC - I wouldnt have written if not NC - but you said this is your interpretation LC it's plausible but I don't have a recollection NC - interview with Angela Glancy (sp) talks about this and LCs response Is that response the gist of what had happened from KS as far as you knew"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946205096393523474) 2025-07-18 13:47:08 UTC 41K followers, 17.5K engagements "compassion JR - what happened next after these X meetings IB - the only other involvement I had was in a short lived working group to consider if we should develop our own policy or wait for OfS policy JR - an email action list progressing a policy is that what you ref'd to"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945442225006989423) 2025-07-16 11:15:45 UTC 40.9K followers, 16.5K engagements "was involved in J reads GM referred to SP being uncomfortable J Do you know what arrangements were put in place GM No J No docs before decision to suspend taken. J Is there anything in bundle that would tell us about discussions you held with ED GM No"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945856928149618917) 2025-07-17 14:43:38 UTC 40.3K followers, 14.6K engagements "NC: Presumably all the steps the board took that you took around the suspensions. All unwanted by SP Wd be unwanted by anyone. CM: Yes unwanted but the transparency was important - to ensure that SP safe and everyone else - for SP's good too"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947290046182158444) 2025-07-21 13:38:20 UTC 41.2K followers, 19.6K engagements "with AG "if Beth walks in Sandie walks out if I witnessed this I would deal with it. LC -if it had been brought to me as direct info yes I would deal with it. NC p534 the first four lines one occasion resus patient"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946214610387755119) 2025-07-18 14:24:56 UTC 41.2K followers, 21.2K engagements "incident. GM - no I don't think so. NC - do you agree that if the only concern was the incident in the CR and not the patient care concerns there would be no suspension GM - the suspension was based on a risk assessment that was not undertaken by me"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945804250245644491) 2025-07-17 11:14:19 UTC 41K followers, 17.4K engagements "NC but we don't see what that's a response to But if we go back it relates to previous email LC - I cant comment to that NC - you were copied in to that email from KS. Kate at this point with ED still in copy ED ED is taking lead in investigation. Everyone is now aware"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946217809349922997) 2025-07-18 14:37:39 UTC 41.1K followers, 19.8K engagements "Abbreviations for frequently used terms (not exhaustive): AE - Accident & emergency department B&H - bullying and harassment CR - changing room CX complaint DX - disciplinary procedure or process FtP - fitness to practice"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947205026729931039) 2025-07-21 08:00:30 UTC 41.1K followers, 30.9K engagements "JR Did this mtg with Miss Davidson did anything else come up CM Not really she said she was anti-trans. But again I'd never met her before. The incident was about DU and ED highlighted that SP had transphobic views due to an incident in a CR. I didnt have any other"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947241196310388946) 2025-07-21 10:24:13 UTC 41.2K followers, 39.6K engagements "KS - discussed police that's part of incident or crime policy JR - KS - embarrassing humiliating met those criteria JR - NHS staff must report all hate incidents KS - that's why we did datix and informed DU and SP managers JR - SP manager is"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947627493642416247) 2025-07-22 11:59:14 UTC 41.2K followers, 53K engagements "critical belief. GM - it might have been an expression of her core gender critical belief but it was not appropriate to be confrontational about it NC - there is no suggestion that she raised her voice or was aggressive GM - no NC - so it follows that the"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945814993745645917) 2025-07-17 11:57:00 UTC 41K followers, 26.3K engagements "CE - a good part of the reason this is taking place in Dundee not Edinburgh because in part because of threats made to SP legal team. At that time SP didn't describe that publically or attribute this to anyone because doing so would be entirely improper"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946228927711592775) 2025-07-18 15:21:50 UTC 40.4K followers, 27.7K engagements "NC: Spiteful tittle-tattle then CM: As I say I made sure to stick solely to brief to review suspension. NC: And what did Louise Curran say CM: Again same rumours - something about Donald Trump. But. Nothing harmful to the board. Ppl entitled to private views"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947295844593549754) 2025-07-21 14:01:23 UTC 41.1K followers, 29.1K engagements "KS I dint make an approach to Sp about her feeling uncomfortable NC U saw her removing herself from CR as bad behaviour KS Beth felt uncomfirtable that SP didnt want to engage.she was the only one behaving like this NC That's not the Q"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947672801147543664) 2025-07-22 14:59:16 UTC 41.2K followers, 62.9K engagements "I was in Jamie's office JR - where was Sandie LC don't know advised her we have had a serious allegation and putting on special leave that we would get clarity from HR. Not sure quite the words. What was her response"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946194312338821554) 2025-07-18 13:04:17 UTC 41.2K followers, 35.6K engagements "CM: It's a workplace where things are discussed all the time not always correctly so wanted to explain to DU that it was my decision here wanted to support both DU & SP. DU took it quite well better than I'd expected"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947300560970907751) 2025-07-21 14:20:07 UTC 41.2K followers, 27.5K engagements "KS Had no reason to think it wasnt true so reported what I believed was true. JR U felt it was important for yr collegaues to know Why We are a close team and anything that threatens wellbeing of staff. And have to think of serice rota and make sure it is covered. If someone"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947648000290947103) 2025-07-22 13:20:43 UTC 41.2K followers, 54.4K engagements "NC - both email at top of page and reply from KS J clarifies two pages need to be read NC - first of those at XXXXX - starts mentioning you reporting that KS had spoken to you and you were sad you couldn't speak to him because you wanted to condemn SP actions"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946216291552858376) 2025-07-18 14:31:37 UTC 39.8K followers, 20.1K engagements "NC More text added by Lottie Miles J Doyle seems to have sent pre-pop form and she has added in background details GM Have to ask LM but not what I would expect NC Would seem risk assessment been made after decision made re suspension GM re sss cr. part of your job to look after"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945837402611753208) 2025-07-17 13:26:03 UTC 40.6K followers, 9612 engagements "I can't remember the exact words but I remember feeling very sad it must have been so hurtful a thing to hear. I felt very sad when I heard that comment that was when Dr U was so upset. I had to comfort DU. Was crying so much. JR - what sort of crying can you describe"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946143055037247697) 2025-07-18 09:40:36 UTC 41.2K followers, 212.8K engagements "had no issues w them CM I was reassured that no pat safety concerns re T patients JR What about her working w DU CM Felt it best to keep them separated for both their safety and mental wellbeing. The version of events was difficult for both parties"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947247019329827176) 2025-07-21 10:47:22 UTC 41.1K followers, 21.9K engagements "LC - said she would check with ED to see ifany change in policy JR - Mentioned alt LC - main in older building in the basement and the well being room has a locked door can be used by any member of staff and the pubic rooms where i have witnessed her changing in the past"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946187263731265765) 2025-07-18 12:36:16 UTC 40.3K followers, 19.9K engagements "NC: And then later after the meeting Angela Glancy sent you background paperwork. You hadn't seen it before but it was this that led you to complete the form ref Bcs you fill in the 'background' info on form - was from GM and AG CM: Yes correct"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947280227371000067) 2025-07-21 12:59:19 UTC 41.1K followers, 23.2K engagements "Good morning. This is the fifth day of the July session of hearings in Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr B Upton. Due to start at 10am. Today we expect the first witness to be Kate Searle A&E consultant"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947559697256501349) 2025-07-22 07:29:50 UTC 41.2K followers, 303.8K engagements "NC: ref Here is Gillian Malone saying she is meeting service manager tomorrow asking her to meet SP - then you had meeting with GM CM: Yes NC: Met SP 7/3 you said you hadn't any particular docs to approach with open mind CM: Yes correct"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947276346289217640) 2025-07-21 12:43:54 UTC 41.2K followers, 21.1K engagements "NC - let's say it's an ordinary man who does this would this be harassment LC if Beth sees herself as female then she has a right to be there advice from EDI NC if Dr U presence in CR was relating to sex it's fair to say she was put on leave was related to this"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946208318092922903) 2025-07-18 13:59:56 UTC 41.1K followers, 21.9K engagements "J How long do u have to go NC I need another hr. I underestimated the time J Can u return tmrw KS KS Yes I can J Can u return at 11am tomorrow so u dont have a long wait We'll do well to complete SK before lunch. How long for the other witnesses JR Maggie Curra discuss"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947674202586419592) 2025-07-22 15:04:50 UTC 41.2K followers, 41.6K engagements "or X months blocks JR - can you describe who does the nursing rota EP - no I can't JR - when did DU return to the workplace EP - I don't know exactly JR - were you aware of any previous tensions between SP & DU EP - no I was not aware"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946149017148178575) 2025-07-18 10:04:18 UTC 39.4K followers, 15.8K engagements "J Actually can u return at XXXXX and we may need a late lunch tomorrow. JR I have a lot of Qs to ask - I have been saving these up. NC I may need more time w MC J We need to be careful about our timetble JR Lauren Harris was due to come tmrw but she may have to come another"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947674703159493109) 2025-07-22 15:06:49 UTC 41.2K followers, 42.2K engagements "Document referred to is the NHS Fife statement. Link to follow"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946227924517929130) 2025-07-18 15:17:51 UTC 39.6K followers, 20K engagements "We will hopefully be reporting from Day X of the July hearing of Sandie Peggie v Fife Health Board and Dr Upton. The first session was in private + ran into lunch. At 1.15pm when Naomi Cunningham (NC) will continue her cross of Emergency Dept Consultant Dr Kate Searle (KS)"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947988433592369629) 2025-07-23 11:53:29 UTC 41.2K followers, 84.4K engagements "LC - I advise I had days off it would be ED and also HR (sound poor) JR what happened then LC - I was duty charge nurse that night so went on wards (can't hear) JR Were you alone when had conv with SP LC With Jamie. On speakerphone He was surpised with the matter of factness"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946195068286542143) 2025-07-18 13:07:17 UTC 41.1K followers, 25.5K engagements "JR - staff member KS - asked if she recalled she was concerned about getting invoved in conv she said I am mixed race I am worrued about getting involved for my own safety. JR - what do you think she meant KS - this at this point meant this legal case press attention"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947625356791325112) 2025-07-22 11:50:44 UTC 41.2K followers, 37.6K engagements "CM: The X are very different - Datix much more info re trans rapist in prison NC: Did you know who wrote the Datix CM: No and still don't - just know it was someone else"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947284482144325806) 2025-07-21 13:16:13 UTC 41.2K followers, 22.2K engagements "CM: No - the day shift suggestion was one of the things I came up with. And wd have been a cooling-off period"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947289449492099482) 2025-07-21 13:35:58 UTC 41K followers, 19.3K engagements "Nc it doesn't say in terms but it's clear that everyone is on his side from this email from ED she has come to a judgement LC - i can't comment NC you were copied (incoherent)"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946220079189786937) 2025-07-18 14:46:40 UTC 41K followers, 20.9K engagements "day J I'll let you sort out the timetable between you. See you tomorrow SESSION ENDS"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947675119955927145) 2025-07-22 15:08:29 UTC 41.2K followers, 62.9K engagements "GM - it was the manner in which she went about raising the issue Beth felt intimidated and harassed. NC - I'm about to go on to another area of questioning and conscious of the time. J - lets break for lunch back at X pm. Court rises"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945816346974879991) 2025-07-17 12:02:23 UTC 41.2K followers, 82.5K engagements "Coverage of the first morning session of Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr B Upton will be in this thread. Scheduled to resume at XX am. There may be delays as it is the 1st hearing day with new remote access arrangements"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945391553763053947) 2025-07-16 07:54:24 UTC 41.1K followers, 180.4K engagements "LC - she said if you don't want me to come in tonight that is fine with me. JR - you were on the phone LC - she sounded very matter of fact JR - what was your interp LC - yes she had have a confront but she didn't see it as serious and didn't mind not coming in to work"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946194611187101818) 2025-07-18 13:05:28 UTC 41.2K followers, 55.8K engagements "Otherwise e'one wld be in the to box. NC They're the same ppl except DU was added in in Jan. You can understand why ppl wldnt have wanted this email see the light of day KS I cant belive we wld have held back emails NC The X Jan email is seriously embarrasing to the Rs"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947665173600178300) 2025-07-22 14:28:57 UTC 41.2K followers, 81.9K engagements "JR - email from Norma Beveridge based on info no reason to reconsider suspension based on rumours circulating GM - that was not my recollection I recall we talked about whether the rumour should factor into the risk assessment JR - discussed on X July GM - discussed in earlier"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945788603423936567) 2025-07-17 10:12:08 UTC 40.6K followers, 9823 engagements "JR - deals with subject matter - the words 'hate crimes' and bullet points. Would you describe your understanding of what they say in relation of what you were told. LC - harassment JR - P722 Email Dr Searle to you and ED LC - that was sent after conv with Jamie"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946193522949787837) 2025-07-18 13:01:09 UTC 41.2K followers, 29.1K engagements ".after making these general comments we will leave this until Monday. some discussion about people's availability Anything else nothing J we will convene on Monday"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946231961439154538) 2025-07-18 15:33:53 UTC 41.2K followers, 34.5K engagements "entitled to use the f cr. NC - so it was discriminatory to raise the issue at all GM - yes. J - time for a X minute break I think. Court rises"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945806878996414553) 2025-07-17 11:24:45 UTC 41.2K followers, 284.3K engagements "Nc do you agree this would have been improper LC - i didn't say that. I would have said that we need to look into this and that this isn't what we expect as a dept NC - it was far too soon to meet with SP to tell her her actions were unacceptable LC yes"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946216597380636702) 2025-07-18 14:32:50 UTC 40.4K followers, 20K engagements "GM would be suspended NC ON gross miscondiut GM Would be a possible basis NC But if Peter than says I'm a woman. Nothing else changed about him. Male clothes etc. I/x would say you are obviously a man not trying to change GM agrees NC If Peter says I'm a gender non conforming"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945850664292073766) 2025-07-17 14:18:45 UTC 40.4K followers, 34.2K engagements "NC: And if we look at the Datix as the other candidate for 'the statement'. ref If this were what you meant - even this report doesn't make you think SP had said anything derogatory"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947284316863475878) 2025-07-21 13:15:34 UTC 41.2K followers, 20.7K engagements "EP - DU feeling quite threatened at that point I thought it was the right thing to do to be by side in case something happened however unlikely I was the consultant it was my job to look after people JR - how long did convo last EP - about XX minutes"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946144970521432556) 2025-07-18 09:48:13 UTC 41.1K followers, 112.2K engagements "info what were you looking for KS - hoping trust policy supporting TG staff in workplace. JR - her reply describe reponse. KS - no trust policy for staff or patients either I think hope to have one. JR - why send that email 8th Dec KS - don't recall JR - Xmas 2023"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947621518965403730) 2025-07-22 11:35:29 UTC 41.2K followers, 29.6K engagements "HI - hate incident HR - Human Rights IX - investigation SX - suspension EA - Equality Act 2010 PC - protected characteristic; X under EA RA = risk assessment GM - Gillian Malone Director of Nursing NHS Fife NEW TODAY JB - Jim Borwick KJB computer forensics consultancy"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947562879034486866) 2025-07-22 07:42:28 UTC 41.2K followers, 91.6K engagements "NC - so she was put on leave because the dr was male LC - not it was made because of how the dr was made to feel and in line with code of conduct. NC - now it is right that any normal employee who's told there is an allegation against them would be intimidating and humlitating"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946206231254667442) 2025-07-18 13:51:38 UTC 40.5K followers, 24.3K engagements "HI - hate incident HR - Human Rights IX - investigation SX - suspension GM - Gillian Malone Director of Nursing NHS Fife EA - Equality Act 2010 PC - protected characteristic; X under EA RA = risk assessment"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947205030282432977) 2025-07-21 08:00:31 UTC 41.2K followers, 55.9K engagements "KS phoned distressed they wldnt need to explain JR Why imp for the X not to meet KS She'd met SP in the am of the shift trying to keep to her shifts and having bumped into her she was v upset feeling v threatened - just from seeing her. we had to ensure they didnt see each"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947648375257763928) 2025-07-22 13:22:12 UTC 41.2K followers, 32.9K engagements "That she didn't see that bothered. JR Why special leave LC - it's to protect confidentiality also doesn't effect pay or sick leave JR - p 1253 email from MC to various people 5th January - SP been referred to NMC were you aware LC - no not aware thought investigation 1st"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946195559552868624) 2025-07-18 13:09:14 UTC 41.1K followers, 26.2K engagements "KS - foundation jobs also looked up EHRC statutory act as DU ID as F she has every right to use F CR JR - anything else KS - looked for Fife policy wasn't one. JR - in bundle later in Dec your email to IB you say first transgender dr v little info available asking for"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947621214144299301) 2025-07-22 11:34:17 UTC 41.2K followers, 29.1K engagements "We expect to resume at XXXX pm this afternoon in Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr Upton"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946201120986067219) 2025-07-18 13:31:20 UTC 41.1K followers, 60.8K engagements "DU's presence. GM - I don't know that. NC - the process started because of SP complaining about DU in the CR GM - the process was started because of the Datix that was generated NC - it was SPs rejection of the harassment by DU that gave rise to the disc process"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945815862708949423) 2025-07-17 12:00:27 UTC 40.6K followers, 19K engagements "📰 A reminder that a continuing & comprehensive collection of press coverage on Sandie Peggie v Fife Health Board & Dr B Upton is available on our Substack. Weve gathered all the latest articles & statements in one place - and keep it updated as new stories emerge. Link below"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946919210870788253) 2025-07-20 13:04:46 UTC 41.2K followers, 48K engagements
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"I didnt recall it and was asked to look for it NC You were never asked until v recently to trawl for any material that wld fall into that order KS As part of this process I dont recall all emails. We were asked for emails that pertained. I dont recall being asked to trawl my" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:03:44 UTC 41.2K followers, 42.3K engagements
"NC - have seeking out a witness to pending tribunal procedings KS - no business. NC - you were determined on DU behalf to round up support for his turn of events weren't you KS - I asked her to see if her story supported Beth NC - were you horrified when I mentioned her name" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 13:31:41 UTC 41.2K followers, 6178 engagements
"LC - unacceptable tone mainly the threatening behaviour Jr - examples of harassing behaviours = types LC - yes gender reassignment gender identity failure to use requested pronouns Why is this relevant LC - because trans people come under protected charas" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 12:53:26 UTC 41.1K followers, 70.9K engagements
"KS I agree we shldnt have written these things in this group. I cant say whether it's been withheld. I dont think u can prove the emails were linked NC These emails werent produced for the 1st hearings were they KS It appears not NC There were X of you in this chain" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:31:44 UTC 41.2K followers, 309.2K engagements
"It is now 10:35 am. The in person observers & press have not yet been admitted to the hearing rooms" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-16 09:37:12 UTC 40.4K followers, 40.9K engagements
"his not reporting is a neglect of his duty LC I can't speak to why it didn't come to me NC he didn't perform this duty LC can't comment not involved NC if false it's a damaging lie so serious" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:28:24 UTC 40.9K followers, 21.3K engagements
"KS It cld have been talking w SP NC Is it plausible u discussed it KS DU was v upset so wld have been approp to take further to ensure e'one is safe in kind and compassionate way NC Are u suggesting an informal discussion wld have been appropriate" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:52:43 UTC 41.2K followers, 47.9K engagements
"G C belief - that sex matters GM don't understand q NC I'll leave it there. NC It was obvious re suspension/ d/x process that SP was unhappy. That she felt f cr being used by man intimidating and humiliating. GM Yes on Xmas eve NC ED doesn't doubt genuineness of SP feelings" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 13:37:59 UTC 40.6K followers, 11.7K engagements
"NC 12th January email from KS to all the same people in to or CC line but with the addition of Dr Upton. Compare those two emails the people they are addressed to same subject line but prefixed 're:' this suggests this is a response to something LC I don' tknow" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:36:27 UTC 39.9K followers, 19.5K engagements
"regards an email discussion group seemingly NC new doc U notice the subject line is PC incident. An email from you of XX Jan is a re email. Curren's email was on X Jan. So yrs is a reply to MC KS I dont agree" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:14:14 UTC 41.2K followers, 40.9K engagements
"nurses welfare GM y NC So if you thought that it was an affront to dignity etc of your nurses to let a t man use the cr it would up to you to speak up about that GM yes NC LM email to you re mtg with SP X March. LM records SP asks why DU couldn't be moved/ asked to change" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 13:27:45 UTC 40.6K followers, 9371 engagements
"NC one alt to SP was to change in toilet LC - yes NC youve seen her in there LC yes regularly NC - nurses need to change at work for reasons of hygiene LC - I didn't say change in the toilets. SP didn't ask what alternatives were" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:10:58 UTC 40.5K followers, 25.6K engagements
"NC: Your letter of 28/3 - re day shifts and supervising - the only reason for it wd be patient safety claimed reasons CM: Not really - wd always suggest days for a phased RtW bcs that's when line managers etc are around. So first month wd usually be days" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 13:37:11 UTC 41K followers, 18.1K engagements
"(mentions other emails senior support ED) ED email 3rd April Lottie this is a compromise Email from GM always a Band X but reasonable to have band X Mentions other emails Why was it felt that SP needed senior support Lc - important because of allegations. If she needed to talk" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:12:36 UTC 41.1K followers, 19.5K engagements
"It's a decision made at birth by the ppl delivering the baby I believe. I'm not an expert at it. NC So sex assigned at birth is whether u have a M or F body Yes NC Bio sex is very important lists re responses to drugs normal ranges for bld results KS Yes" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:44:42 UTC 41.2K followers, 505.3K engagements
"CM: Phone conv - ED and LC on speakerphone said it was the wrong decision I said it was my decision - J: asks for slow-down to take notes" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 12:47:59 UTC 41.1K followers, 21K engagements
"LC - there is nothing I can do to ease Sandies anxiety but there were alternatives given to her to ease that. NC - when she asked you those questions you didn't treat it as unreasonable Her problem with Upton using that CR LC no she could ask that not unreasonable to ask" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:07:38 UTC 39.2K followers, 25.2K engagements
"NC I suggest u conspired not to produce it Absolutely not. I'm a dr and trustworthy. NC Yr regulator wld be concerned about this if you hadnt KS we have to work w honesty and integrity" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:34:34 UTC 41.2K followers, 359.7K engagements
"NC - do you agree therefore that it was inappropriate that KS said that DU had the support of the senior dr and nursing teams LC agrees NC email MC to ED you (and others) headline protected characteristic incident. Maggie talks about any need for investigation but ED can't do" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:34:19 UTC 41.2K followers, 21.1K engagements
"NC: What about ED and LC how did they make feelings known. CM: Was again when discussing shifts they raised what MC and KS had raised I asked whether reported/escalated they couldn't give me any info re dates was just hearsay. SP had no complaints previously" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 12:51:47 UTC 41.2K followers, 33.9K engagements
"NC - if the Tribunal finds that C did not ask DU about his genes it was not appropriate for her to tell DU shouldn't be in changing room GM - clarify NC - if SP had only said she didn't think DU should be in f cr. GM - it had been addressed we had taken advice DU was" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:22:48 UTC 40.4K followers, 25.1K engagements
"NC - so if I ask you to pick out the worst thing what is it GM - she keeps telling Beth that she finds him intimidating and keeps repeating that NC - so what was happening here was that SP was saying that sex matters in this situation you may want to pretend you're a woman" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:49:57 UTC 41.1K followers, 29.5K engagements
"the allegations so is plural NC - thank you yes. But again that tends to support the suggestion that you were relying on the seriousness of the Christmas Eve allegation to suspend. GM - I think it was all the incidents NC - did you see the detail GM - I don't recall" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:06:59 UTC 39.3K followers, 15.1K engagements
"to change in GM If we are talking about biological sex then yes NC SS spaces for staff provision is conduct related to sex. That is obvious. JR objects J reasonable q to ask NC This is to do with sex GM Guidance re t member staff was to allow to use f cr so not re sex" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 13:33:42 UTC 40.6K followers, 11.1K engagements
"seems a bit harsh language does not acknowledge GC beliefs that they need to be taken into consideration JR - now on to changing facilities and showers please read and explain to the ET how that aligns to your understanding of the topic IB reading" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-16 10:39:28 UTC 40.9K followers, 27.9K engagements
"We're tweeting the second afternoon session of Peggie v Fife NHS Board and Dr Upton. Naomi Cunningham will be cross examining ED consultant Kate Searle" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 13:53:05 UTC 41.2K followers, 167.8K engagements
"NC: Cd you tell tribunal begin with Kate Searle CM: Was in KS office - NC: Why were you there CM: To discuss shifts to get both staff back in workplace. KS expressed unhappiness re SP coming back said patient safety issues had been raised said racist to a doctor" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 12:50:04 UTC 41.1K followers, 26.2K engagements
"JR - obs are observatins KS - yes ecg blood pressure etc and documenting on chart. JR - 2nd incident KS - Beth called patient didn't respond to call patient presented with MH crisis I think concerned. Peggie was triage nurse asked if concern over leaving" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 11:48:15 UTC 41.2K followers, 27.8K engagements
"KS I asked IB and there's no other policy to dispute this NC IB told the tribunal that she doesnt know if she's F or M. Do u know yr F It's on my birth certificate But u know yr F KS That's the gender that was given to me at birth. The sex" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:43:46 UTC 41.2K followers, 96.3K engagements
"We begin. J - before we start - considered press release of XX jul addressed in submission. No order in realtion to it. Can sit late if needed. Assume you are Miss Harris. Which oath Takes oath. J - explains need for slow answers and speaking up" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 12:21:06 UTC 41.2K followers, 23.3K engagements
".but would have referred to Elspeth if she wanted that support. JR - no more questions J - a break now ten minutes" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:14:38 UTC 41.2K followers, 29.7K engagements
"re how she felt about DU CM Not happy w him but more to do with the event that happened. I was reassured she wldnt treat a T patient any differently than another. So felt her feelings were circumstantial to the sitn JR Read these pages reads re SP feeling sorry for TG and" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 10:45:57 UTC 41.2K followers, 58.3K engagements
"CM: My decision was to have both staff members back in the dept had had meeting with SP and done full risk assessment" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 12:48:30 UTC 41.1K followers, 20.3K engagements
"P: You said "on shift" CM: Yes we went into the wellness room - there were a few tears it was a difficult conversation but I was glad to be able to explain to DU in person" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 14:20:48 UTC 41.2K followers, 81.3K engagements
"NC by this date reading out Were u aware of it KS An order for documents I.I'm not sure. I don't know NC An email between u and IB on XXX that was provided to the C's before the order was made. Did u provide it/ KS I've trawled all my emails but before this I wasnt" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:00:47 UTC 41.1K followers, 46.1K engagements
"Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr B Upton is scheduled to resume today at XX am. There may well be delays as it is the first hearing day with the new remote access arrangements. We wish to address the matter of our live text based communications" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-16 06:58:12 UTC 41.1K followers, 186.7K engagements
"that ED shouldn't be involved. MC says ED can't do investigating but days later now ED is still investigating LC - I really don't know. I don't know who authorised ED first place NC if this is right that XXX is a reply to MC email of 5January are you surprised no responses" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:39:34 UTC 39.3K followers, 20K engagements
"any tensions LH - no JR - aware of tensions with other staff over DU use of F CR LH - no JR - another doc 1253 email from MC to you and others 3rd para SP also referred to NMC Know anything that LH - no JR - another doc XXX GM sent to LC and you and ED and KT OfS" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 12:28:09 UTC 41.2K followers, 18.6K engagements
"The fourth day of the July hearing of Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr B Upton is due to start at 10am. We anticipate a discussion regarding NHS Fife's statement of 18.7.2025 before the next witness Charlotte Myles is called" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 08:00:26 UTC 41.2K followers, 180.5K engagements
"I said I'd spoken w SP and wld be having a mtg. I wasnt surprised by req for MSP to attend as was used to this type of thing. JR The SX RA filled in by CM Me JR Who completed the summary I did. It was a summary of the actual meeting. JR Look at p1334" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 10:29:54 UTC 41.1K followers, 26.1K engagements
"GC /SR: gender critical or sex realists. Belief that biological sex is important immutable and different from gender identity GI Gender identity is a person's internal sense of their own gender which may or may not align with their birth sex" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 07:38:46 UTC 41.2K followers, 45.7K engagements
"NC: So on 12/3 you wrote to SP saying you were revoking the suspension CM: Yes NC: You met SP 7/3 satisified yourself esp re risk you presumably didn't fill in the form on the spot CM: No - took shorthand notes and filled out later" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 12:56:33 UTC 41.2K followers, 21.9K engagements
"If there's a workforce issue someone more senior shld do this work before Beth came to me KS Beth has every right to use the facilities she wants under the GRA. NC What did u look at to satisfy yrself KS If u google it there's many refs for trans ppl and CR" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:41:16 UTC 41.2K followers, 82.1K engagements
"We will shortly be reporting from day X of the July hearing of Sandie Peggie v Fife Health Board and Dr Upton. The first session is due to start at 11.30am when Naomi Cunningham (NC) will continue her cross examination of Emergency Dept Consultant Dr Kate Searle (KS)" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 10:15:09 UTC 41.2K followers, 86K engagements
"NC - a request made in September unfortunately you are muddling up the suspension checklist with the risk assessment. I need the original risk assessment. It doesn't seem that any risk assessment was actually done by ED at the time. GM - I can't recall" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:08:15 UTC 41K followers, 16.6K engagements
"JR - refers to your informing lauren LC - I said to kate I would speak to Lauren next time I saw her. (missed) JR - conv with Miss Peggie - two accounts. in notes When did this happen LC- with SP Sat XX Dec around 4pm" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:03:03 UTC 41.1K followers, 35.5K engagements
"the woman's changing room. GM - she was upset with DU being in the CR NC - is there nothing in that statement that indicates that she was upset that a man was in the woman's changing room GM - Beth "SP kept saying I was not a woman' NC - doesn't that mean that he's a man" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:54:28 UTC 41.1K followers, 15.4K engagements
"missed NC men generally stronger/more of a threat to women. IB When you talk c tw and tm risk is significantly less. NC You are saying men in general are greater threat to women than vice IB TW are different from other men in level of threat they present" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-16 13:21:39 UTC 40.4K followers, 54.1K engagements
"JR - statement to AG. Read Q11 and your answer to yourself you say 'we were aware' who were you talking about EP - the ED consultants JR - how did you become aware EP - the consultants meet on a monthly basis one of the senior nurses said a concern had been raised about DU" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 10:06:38 UTC 39.3K followers, 15.3K engagements
"NC - for reasons of hygiene it is unacceptable to change in toilet LC yes but people do that. there is a pause in proceedings" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:11:53 UTC 40.9K followers, 34.4K engagements
"GC /SR: gender critical or sex realists. Belief that biological sex is important immutable and different from gender identity GI Gender identity is a person's internal sense of their own gender which may or may not align with their birth sex" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 08:00:30 UTC 41.1K followers, 37.9K engagements
"CM: Wd really have to think about this - can't answer now. NC : Not fair to compromise XXX women to satisfy X man. CM: Dr U identifies as a woman that's how I think so that's not what it was" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 14:17:59 UTC 41.2K followers, 104.4K engagements
"NC it's not exact LC - to give me prompts in future NC- eg of this in last para - she told me she had confronted the dr and advised she should not be in there because she is not female. But SP says he doesn't she LC - I don't recall. NC - SP didn't use word confront" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:45:23 UTC 41.1K followers, 18.8K engagements
"Panel You were asked re your role and you said you offered leadership with no direct reports. What are you responsible for. GM inc Governance complaints adverse events and provide leadership for directorship - patient care standards P You have no direct line management" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 14:34:22 UTC 40.4K followers, 15.8K engagements
"isla Bryson sorry Isla bumba KS - JR - on the changing room 26th Aug 2023 incident did she say KS - not sure we talked on 29th dec might have been mentioned before and why I wrote 8th Dec. JR - you reviewed hate policy quick look then likely break fo rlunch" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 11:54:38 UTC 41.2K followers, 75.9K engagements
"NC: ref this is letter from you 28/3 to SP telling her risk assessment says return to work with diff shift pattern from DU shd be explored. You mention assemessment of risk - you made the assessment during 7/3 mtg and said propose to revoke end of that day CM Yes" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 12:45:29 UTC 41.1K followers, 19.9K engagements
"JR you were asked if SP should be asked to change in front of a man. Do you think Dr U is a man LC - no I don't" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:50:51 UTC 40.4K followers, 45.3K engagements
"EP - what I understood to be the tone the tone was said in an aggressive and an unkind way. JR - Did DU refer to anything about demeanour EP - in the CR JR - yes EP - she said she felt cornered JR - what do you thinks he meant by that EP - I did not interpret it it was what" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 09:43:41 UTC 41.2K followers, 40.3K engagements
"and it would have been career ending if reported to NMC LC - can't comment on what NMC would do NC - email from KS to DU you're not copied have you seen this before. LC No NC do you want to read it now LC -Yes please" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:29:36 UTC 40.1K followers, 20.1K engagements
".with SP has been linked to behaviours of members of the public. There are factual inaccuracies that will be dealt with on Monday. The short point is that this is unusual conduct. It is irresponsible in the context of what we already know. It is for this reason we bring" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 15:26:14 UTC 40.4K followers, 19.7K engagements
"NC - not for her but for the consequences for you of making up something she said KS - no absolutely not. NC - moving onto Xmas eve. JR - KS is becoming visibly distressed J - break KS - no thank you. NC - page XXX please. 2nd email is DU to you in small hours Xmas am" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 13:33:08 UTC 41.2K followers, 7544 engagements
"The Tribunal in Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr Upton is not expected to be in public session before 11:30 today Kate Searle A&E consultant expected to continue giving evidence then" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 09:08:23 UTC 41.2K followers, 53.6K engagements
"NC - you din't relay that message ED LC - don't know NC - but 'we were advised.this was relayed to Sandie' LC-Esther had said NC - nurses hadn't been told LC no NC where do you change LC my office NC - when did you last use them to change" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:08:44 UTC 41.1K followers, 32.1K engagements
"KS SO we cld all support Beth if she felt unable to work or if she needed any support. JR Can u estimate how many colleagues XX at that time JR Can you read "Beth was approached" Why say this KS Beth perceived active confrontation was aggressive in manner" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 13:17:32 UTC 41.2K followers, 44.3K engagements
"JR - March page 1356 this email you to LM XX March about shifts on graduated return why was this being sent to Lottie LC - that Sandie should be fully supported and allocated shifts for senior support. JR - p330 emails other bundle. 2nd and 3rd April. LM email to you and ED" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:11:00 UTC 41.1K followers, 20.1K engagements
"KS Like the GMC we have to act w/out discrim and with kindness and compassion at all times. I dont recall this nor know if a referral to NMC was made. JR new doc Response from MC to the consultants: what did u make of it" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 13:37:51 UTC 41.2K followers, 25K engagements
"LC - 2020 prior to promotion NC so this policy we heard from EP informal meetings between consultants and senior nurses this policy of letting upton using Cr was not communicated to those expect to undress in front a man LC - I wasn't at that meeting" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:09:44 UTC 41K followers, 31.4K engagements
"IB Don't agree with your definition of bio sex. Much more complicated than that. Don't know anything c Beth's body. No one knows what their chromosomes are. NC What you understand by tw IB Someone ama b and living as a woman. NC So no one af ab had a sss cr" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-16 14:06:08 UTC 41.1K followers, 105.3K engagements
"JR: And homophobic comments CM: Just told she disapproved of ppl being gay - was told unhappy bcs her daughter gay - but I don't know at all" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 14:32:48 UTC 41.2K followers, 471.6K engagements
"was to tell her suspension was to be lifted GM Don't agree NC That decision to lift suspension was cos MG was objecting to suspension on no proper grounds. GM missed NC Friday X March you to MJ - further risk assessment supported returning to workplace on different" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 13:17:37 UTC 40.6K followers, 16.1K engagements
"KS rapist. She felt it was a reference to that. So why interp as offensive or harassing phrase in the Datix JR Whats harrassing or offensive about it KS To be compared as a T IDed M to being like a rapist is extremely extremely offensive" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 13:12:06 UTC 41.2K followers, 26.1K engagements
"Christmas Day.; NC - what exactly was unacceptable about it GM - a discriminatory allegation NC - what specifically is discriminatory GM - nurse asked the dr about his genes NC - is that the worse thing to your mind GM - not considering the Datix that's worst thing" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:20:57 UTC 41.1K followers, 48.7K engagements
"This is part III of our afternoon coverage of Peggie v NHS Fife & Dr B Upton" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 14:29:43 UTC 41.1K followers, 68.7K engagements
"KS I wldnt normally ask this but I wanted to make sure she was comfortable doing this as aware she's a T female. A short convo only and no instruction. NC new doc In yr evidence in chief u said Beth reads from before What's happened is u treated as self evident he was" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:38:12 UTC 41.2K followers, 60.1K engagements
"unfortunately paras X and X of this press statement seem to do that. If i can finish. If we look at para X that's identifying the CEO of Sex Matters and the claimants barrister and describes that orgs involvement in the media and suggests it's involved in steering public opinion" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 15:23:15 UTC 40.1K followers, 18.6K engagements
"NC - but you said he is in the dept enough to know Beth and because people saw him regularly then you know that people only have to see Dr U to see he's not female. No Are you saying you weren't aware he's a man Not at first not until engaged in conversation. Not sure what diff" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:04:06 UTC 41.1K followers, 25K engagements
"NC: 12/3 told SP re revoking - JR: told at meeting confirmed 12/3 NC: Yes thank you. Then we have the risk assessment form is dated missed" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 12:57:51 UTC 41.1K followers, 23.9K engagements
"She relied on the code of practice. NC Try again. Women who believe bio sex is real and sometimes matters my see t id men as men not woman. They still see a man if that's what they think. GM yes NC So if you provide ss bio spaces for staff it's to do with SP" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 13:36:26 UTC 41.1K followers, 11.7K engagements
"J If discussing if someone being suspended and it's based around risk assess could you have discussion in absence of risk assessment in writing GM no J All risk assess carried out in writing GM yes" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 14:44:42 UTC 40.6K followers, 14K engagements
"NC Probably need a break for court stenographers Short break" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-16 13:27:24 UTC 41.1K followers, 22.4K engagements
"suspension was because of her gender critical belief. GM - the suspension was because of the risk assessment that was done NC - so the entire suspension process was because of her GC belief JR - a multi part question NC - I thought we had agreed that SP was complaining about" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:58:21 UTC 40.9K followers, 16.9K engagements
"NC I'm suggesting we dont see this subject line v often. We see catch up and HI but isnt used commonly. we see an email chain at XXX to the same group that MC was emailing on X Jan that we've looked at. But not copied to MC's email at the bottom" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:24:33 UTC 41.2K followers, 38.2K engagements
"KS safety JR When did this discusssion take place KS I dont recall exactly JR Where KS In the charge nurse office in ED JR ANyone else there KS No. Just me and ED JR new page Email X Jan to you refers to the NMC. Can u explain anything about it KS I dont recall" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 13:36:31 UTC 41.2K followers, 20.9K engagements
"LC - I wouldnt have written if not NC - but you said this is your interpretation LC it's plausible but I don't have a recollection NC - interview with Angela Glancy (sp) talks about this and LCs response Is that response the gist of what had happened from KS as far as you knew" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:47:08 UTC 41K followers, 17.5K engagements
"compassion JR - what happened next after these X meetings IB - the only other involvement I had was in a short lived working group to consider if we should develop our own policy or wait for OfS policy JR - an email action list progressing a policy is that what you ref'd to" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-16 11:15:45 UTC 40.9K followers, 16.5K engagements
"was involved in J reads GM referred to SP being uncomfortable J Do you know what arrangements were put in place GM No J No docs before decision to suspend taken. J Is there anything in bundle that would tell us about discussions you held with ED GM No" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 14:43:38 UTC 40.3K followers, 14.6K engagements
"NC: Presumably all the steps the board took that you took around the suspensions. All unwanted by SP Wd be unwanted by anyone. CM: Yes unwanted but the transparency was important - to ensure that SP safe and everyone else - for SP's good too" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 13:38:20 UTC 41.2K followers, 19.6K engagements
"with AG "if Beth walks in Sandie walks out if I witnessed this I would deal with it. LC -if it had been brought to me as direct info yes I would deal with it. NC p534 the first four lines one occasion resus patient" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:24:56 UTC 41.2K followers, 21.2K engagements
"incident. GM - no I don't think so. NC - do you agree that if the only concern was the incident in the CR and not the patient care concerns there would be no suspension GM - the suspension was based on a risk assessment that was not undertaken by me" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:14:19 UTC 41K followers, 17.4K engagements
"NC but we don't see what that's a response to But if we go back it relates to previous email LC - I cant comment to that NC - you were copied in to that email from KS. Kate at this point with ED still in copy ED ED is taking lead in investigation. Everyone is now aware" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:37:39 UTC 41.1K followers, 19.8K engagements
"Abbreviations for frequently used terms (not exhaustive): AE - Accident & emergency department B&H - bullying and harassment CR - changing room CX complaint DX - disciplinary procedure or process FtP - fitness to practice" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 08:00:30 UTC 41.1K followers, 30.9K engagements
"JR Did this mtg with Miss Davidson did anything else come up CM Not really she said she was anti-trans. But again I'd never met her before. The incident was about DU and ED highlighted that SP had transphobic views due to an incident in a CR. I didnt have any other" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 10:24:13 UTC 41.2K followers, 39.6K engagements
"KS - discussed police that's part of incident or crime policy JR - KS - embarrassing humiliating met those criteria JR - NHS staff must report all hate incidents KS - that's why we did datix and informed DU and SP managers JR - SP manager is" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 11:59:14 UTC 41.2K followers, 53K engagements
"critical belief. GM - it might have been an expression of her core gender critical belief but it was not appropriate to be confrontational about it NC - there is no suggestion that she raised her voice or was aggressive GM - no NC - so it follows that the" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:57:00 UTC 41K followers, 26.3K engagements
"CE - a good part of the reason this is taking place in Dundee not Edinburgh because in part because of threats made to SP legal team. At that time SP didn't describe that publically or attribute this to anyone because doing so would be entirely improper" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 15:21:50 UTC 40.4K followers, 27.7K engagements
"NC: Spiteful tittle-tattle then CM: As I say I made sure to stick solely to brief to review suspension. NC: And what did Louise Curran say CM: Again same rumours - something about Donald Trump. But. Nothing harmful to the board. Ppl entitled to private views" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 14:01:23 UTC 41.1K followers, 29.1K engagements
"KS I dint make an approach to Sp about her feeling uncomfortable NC U saw her removing herself from CR as bad behaviour KS Beth felt uncomfirtable that SP didnt want to engage.she was the only one behaving like this NC That's not the Q" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:59:16 UTC 41.2K followers, 62.9K engagements
"I was in Jamie's office JR - where was Sandie LC don't know advised her we have had a serious allegation and putting on special leave that we would get clarity from HR. Not sure quite the words. What was her response" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:04:17 UTC 41.2K followers, 35.6K engagements
"CM: It's a workplace where things are discussed all the time not always correctly so wanted to explain to DU that it was my decision here wanted to support both DU & SP. DU took it quite well better than I'd expected" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 14:20:07 UTC 41.2K followers, 27.5K engagements
"KS Had no reason to think it wasnt true so reported what I believed was true. JR U felt it was important for yr collegaues to know Why We are a close team and anything that threatens wellbeing of staff. And have to think of serice rota and make sure it is covered. If someone" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 13:20:43 UTC 41.2K followers, 54.4K engagements
"NC - both email at top of page and reply from KS J clarifies two pages need to be read NC - first of those at XXXXX - starts mentioning you reporting that KS had spoken to you and you were sad you couldn't speak to him because you wanted to condemn SP actions" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:31:37 UTC 39.8K followers, 20.1K engagements
"NC More text added by Lottie Miles J Doyle seems to have sent pre-pop form and she has added in background details GM Have to ask LM but not what I would expect NC Would seem risk assessment been made after decision made re suspension GM re sss cr. part of your job to look after" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 13:26:03 UTC 40.6K followers, 9612 engagements
"I can't remember the exact words but I remember feeling very sad it must have been so hurtful a thing to hear. I felt very sad when I heard that comment that was when Dr U was so upset. I had to comfort DU. Was crying so much. JR - what sort of crying can you describe" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 09:40:36 UTC 41.2K followers, 212.8K engagements
"had no issues w them CM I was reassured that no pat safety concerns re T patients JR What about her working w DU CM Felt it best to keep them separated for both their safety and mental wellbeing. The version of events was difficult for both parties" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 10:47:22 UTC 41.1K followers, 21.9K engagements
"LC - said she would check with ED to see ifany change in policy JR - Mentioned alt LC - main in older building in the basement and the well being room has a locked door can be used by any member of staff and the pubic rooms where i have witnessed her changing in the past" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 12:36:16 UTC 40.3K followers, 19.9K engagements
"NC: And then later after the meeting Angela Glancy sent you background paperwork. You hadn't seen it before but it was this that led you to complete the form ref Bcs you fill in the 'background' info on form - was from GM and AG CM: Yes correct" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 12:59:19 UTC 41.1K followers, 23.2K engagements
"Good morning. This is the fifth day of the July session of hearings in Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr B Upton. Due to start at 10am. Today we expect the first witness to be Kate Searle A&E consultant" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 07:29:50 UTC 41.2K followers, 303.8K engagements
"NC: ref Here is Gillian Malone saying she is meeting service manager tomorrow asking her to meet SP - then you had meeting with GM CM: Yes NC: Met SP 7/3 you said you hadn't any particular docs to approach with open mind CM: Yes correct" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 12:43:54 UTC 41.2K followers, 21.1K engagements
"NC - let's say it's an ordinary man who does this would this be harassment LC if Beth sees herself as female then she has a right to be there advice from EDI NC if Dr U presence in CR was relating to sex it's fair to say she was put on leave was related to this" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:59:56 UTC 41.1K followers, 21.9K engagements
"J How long do u have to go NC I need another hr. I underestimated the time J Can u return tmrw KS KS Yes I can J Can u return at 11am tomorrow so u dont have a long wait We'll do well to complete SK before lunch. How long for the other witnesses JR Maggie Curra discuss" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 15:04:50 UTC 41.2K followers, 41.6K engagements
"or X months blocks JR - can you describe who does the nursing rota EP - no I can't JR - when did DU return to the workplace EP - I don't know exactly JR - were you aware of any previous tensions between SP & DU EP - no I was not aware" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 10:04:18 UTC 39.4K followers, 15.8K engagements
"J Actually can u return at XXXXX and we may need a late lunch tomorrow. JR I have a lot of Qs to ask - I have been saving these up. NC I may need more time w MC J We need to be careful about our timetble JR Lauren Harris was due to come tmrw but she may have to come another" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 15:06:49 UTC 41.2K followers, 42.2K engagements
"Document referred to is the NHS Fife statement. Link to follow" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 15:17:51 UTC 39.6K followers, 20K engagements
"We will hopefully be reporting from Day X of the July hearing of Sandie Peggie v Fife Health Board and Dr Upton. The first session was in private + ran into lunch. At 1.15pm when Naomi Cunningham (NC) will continue her cross of Emergency Dept Consultant Dr Kate Searle (KS)" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 11:53:29 UTC 41.2K followers, 84.4K engagements
"LC - I advise I had days off it would be ED and also HR (sound poor) JR what happened then LC - I was duty charge nurse that night so went on wards (can't hear) JR Were you alone when had conv with SP LC With Jamie. On speakerphone He was surpised with the matter of factness" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:07:17 UTC 41.1K followers, 25.5K engagements
"JR - staff member KS - asked if she recalled she was concerned about getting invoved in conv she said I am mixed race I am worrued about getting involved for my own safety. JR - what do you think she meant KS - this at this point meant this legal case press attention" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 11:50:44 UTC 41.2K followers, 37.6K engagements
"CM: The X are very different - Datix much more info re trans rapist in prison NC: Did you know who wrote the Datix CM: No and still don't - just know it was someone else" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 13:16:13 UTC 41.2K followers, 22.2K engagements
"CM: No - the day shift suggestion was one of the things I came up with. And wd have been a cooling-off period" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 13:35:58 UTC 41K followers, 19.3K engagements
"Nc it doesn't say in terms but it's clear that everyone is on his side from this email from ED she has come to a judgement LC - i can't comment NC you were copied (incoherent)" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:46:40 UTC 41K followers, 20.9K engagements
"day J I'll let you sort out the timetable between you. See you tomorrow SESSION ENDS" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 15:08:29 UTC 41.2K followers, 62.9K engagements
"GM - it was the manner in which she went about raising the issue Beth felt intimidated and harassed. NC - I'm about to go on to another area of questioning and conscious of the time. J - lets break for lunch back at X pm. Court rises" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 12:02:23 UTC 41.2K followers, 82.5K engagements
"Coverage of the first morning session of Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr B Upton will be in this thread. Scheduled to resume at XX am. There may be delays as it is the 1st hearing day with new remote access arrangements" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-16 07:54:24 UTC 41.1K followers, 180.4K engagements
"LC - she said if you don't want me to come in tonight that is fine with me. JR - you were on the phone LC - she sounded very matter of fact JR - what was your interp LC - yes she had have a confront but she didn't see it as serious and didn't mind not coming in to work" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:05:28 UTC 41.2K followers, 55.8K engagements
"Otherwise e'one wld be in the to box. NC They're the same ppl except DU was added in in Jan. You can understand why ppl wldnt have wanted this email see the light of day KS I cant belive we wld have held back emails NC The X Jan email is seriously embarrasing to the Rs" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:28:57 UTC 41.2K followers, 81.9K engagements
"JR - email from Norma Beveridge based on info no reason to reconsider suspension based on rumours circulating GM - that was not my recollection I recall we talked about whether the rumour should factor into the risk assessment JR - discussed on X July GM - discussed in earlier" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 10:12:08 UTC 40.6K followers, 9823 engagements
"JR - deals with subject matter - the words 'hate crimes' and bullet points. Would you describe your understanding of what they say in relation of what you were told. LC - harassment JR - P722 Email Dr Searle to you and ED LC - that was sent after conv with Jamie" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:01:09 UTC 41.2K followers, 29.1K engagements
".after making these general comments we will leave this until Monday. some discussion about people's availability Anything else nothing J we will convene on Monday" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 15:33:53 UTC 41.2K followers, 34.5K engagements
"entitled to use the f cr. NC - so it was discriminatory to raise the issue at all GM - yes. J - time for a X minute break I think. Court rises" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:24:45 UTC 41.2K followers, 284.3K engagements
"Nc do you agree this would have been improper LC - i didn't say that. I would have said that we need to look into this and that this isn't what we expect as a dept NC - it was far too soon to meet with SP to tell her her actions were unacceptable LC yes" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:32:50 UTC 40.4K followers, 20K engagements
"GM would be suspended NC ON gross miscondiut GM Would be a possible basis NC But if Peter than says I'm a woman. Nothing else changed about him. Male clothes etc. I/x would say you are obviously a man not trying to change GM agrees NC If Peter says I'm a gender non conforming" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 14:18:45 UTC 40.4K followers, 34.2K engagements
"NC: And if we look at the Datix as the other candidate for 'the statement'. ref If this were what you meant - even this report doesn't make you think SP had said anything derogatory" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 13:15:34 UTC 41.2K followers, 20.7K engagements
"EP - DU feeling quite threatened at that point I thought it was the right thing to do to be by side in case something happened however unlikely I was the consultant it was my job to look after people JR - how long did convo last EP - about XX minutes" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 09:48:13 UTC 41.1K followers, 112.2K engagements
"info what were you looking for KS - hoping trust policy supporting TG staff in workplace. JR - her reply describe reponse. KS - no trust policy for staff or patients either I think hope to have one. JR - why send that email 8th Dec KS - don't recall JR - Xmas 2023" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 11:35:29 UTC 41.2K followers, 29.6K engagements
"HI - hate incident HR - Human Rights IX - investigation SX - suspension EA - Equality Act 2010 PC - protected characteristic; X under EA RA = risk assessment GM - Gillian Malone Director of Nursing NHS Fife NEW TODAY JB - Jim Borwick KJB computer forensics consultancy" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 07:42:28 UTC 41.2K followers, 91.6K engagements
"NC - so she was put on leave because the dr was male LC - not it was made because of how the dr was made to feel and in line with code of conduct. NC - now it is right that any normal employee who's told there is an allegation against them would be intimidating and humlitating" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:51:38 UTC 40.5K followers, 24.3K engagements
"HI - hate incident HR - Human Rights IX - investigation SX - suspension GM - Gillian Malone Director of Nursing NHS Fife EA - Equality Act 2010 PC - protected characteristic; X under EA RA = risk assessment" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 08:00:31 UTC 41.2K followers, 55.9K engagements
"KS phoned distressed they wldnt need to explain JR Why imp for the X not to meet KS She'd met SP in the am of the shift trying to keep to her shifts and having bumped into her she was v upset feeling v threatened - just from seeing her. we had to ensure they didnt see each" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 13:22:12 UTC 41.2K followers, 32.9K engagements
"That she didn't see that bothered. JR Why special leave LC - it's to protect confidentiality also doesn't effect pay or sick leave JR - p 1253 email from MC to various people 5th January - SP been referred to NMC were you aware LC - no not aware thought investigation 1st" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:09:14 UTC 41.1K followers, 26.2K engagements
"KS - foundation jobs also looked up EHRC statutory act as DU ID as F she has every right to use F CR JR - anything else KS - looked for Fife policy wasn't one. JR - in bundle later in Dec your email to IB you say first transgender dr v little info available asking for" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 11:34:17 UTC 41.2K followers, 29.1K engagements
"We expect to resume at XXXX pm this afternoon in Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr Upton" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:31:20 UTC 41.1K followers, 60.8K engagements
"DU's presence. GM - I don't know that. NC - the process started because of SP complaining about DU in the CR GM - the process was started because of the Datix that was generated NC - it was SPs rejection of the harassment by DU that gave rise to the disc process" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 12:00:27 UTC 40.6K followers, 19K engagements
"📰 A reminder that a continuing & comprehensive collection of press coverage on Sandie Peggie v Fife Health Board & Dr B Upton is available on our Substack. Weve gathered all the latest articles & statements in one place - and keep it updated as new stories emerge. Link below" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-20 13:04:46 UTC 41.2K followers, 48K engagements
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