[GUEST ACCESS MODE: Data is scrambled or limited to provide examples. Make requests using your API key to unlock full data. Check https://lunarcrush.ai/auth for authentication information.] [@tribunaltweets](/creator/twitter/tribunaltweets) "looks like X docs attached - SP and DU attached what are the outlook ones. AG - notes spoken of earlier J - what AG - check list B&H OH referal J - any handover from ED AG - no shifts didn't align prior to me being told of ix. Info from ED was given to me"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948375230604247184) 2025-07-24 13:30:28 UTC 44K followers, 19K engagements "It is now 10:35 am. The in person observers & press have not yet been admitted to the hearing rooms"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945417423747735651) 2025-07-16 09:37:12 UTC 43.9K followers, 41K engagements "J - testimony our job to assess others testimony. NC - can deal in submissions with withdrawing agreement J - will have to look at whether and how to do that. NC - may be about exact interpretations agreed facts give a gloss don't say SP refered to rapist only sitn and"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948018560980128075) 2025-07-23 13:53:12 UTC 44K followers, 54.8K engagements "KS It cld have been talking w SP NC Is it plausible u discussed it KS DU was v upset so wld have been approp to take further to ensure e'one is safe in kind and compassionate way NC Are u suggesting an informal discussion wld have been appropriate"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947671153306440038) 2025-07-22 14:52:43 UTC 44K followers, 50.8K engagements "JR - look at terrain scsh one of the problem ones an odd note to manipulate aluminium mesh from halfords unless hobby is a secret odd to lie about this notes creation JB - go to scsh19 at bottom of weird incident note gives you part of note theres X dots those don't appear"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948713296447610914) 2025-07-25 11:53:49 UTC 44K followers, 25.2K engagements "regards an email discussion group seemingly NC new doc U notice the subject line is PC incident. An email from you of XX Jan is a re email. Curren's email was on X Jan. So yrs is a reply to MC KS I dont agree"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947661470239506579) 2025-07-22 14:14:14 UTC 44K followers, 42.7K engagements "J - didyou follow up on RA AG - no not invovled in susx J - didn't ask AG - just got a folder with the same info in J - when folder from ED AG - GM left in office and got between X - XX march '24 J - urgency in april an issue with illness of MSF any thought for another HR"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948375897825788184) 2025-07-24 13:33:07 UTC 44K followers, 19.4K engagements "JB - yes JR - scsh 1659 - X scsh all 26th oct around 3am. Possible something happened at that date/time to impact all X JB - no can't have a version hist with prior edit date JR - scsh18 edit date 2nd may sc sh XX see edit dates all earlier than 26th oct. connundrum"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948712182683709897) 2025-07-25 11:49:24 UTC 44K followers, 26.4K engagements "NC - can't help at all spring summer KS - it's been a long process its all blurred into one between dec and now. NC - this is a conv that caused you such anxiety for her might be burnt in memory JR - didn't say that and repetitive questioning unlikely to help"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948011439052009497) 2025-07-23 13:24:54 UTC 43.9K followers, 40.5K engagements "JR Lawyer would be best person to address this. J Not always a lawyer NC to IB You are the lead on this. Is there anyone you can think of would be better placed to answer qs than you. IB re someone on granting access to tw to spaces. I would be on advice but not necessarily"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945478542336082146) 2025-07-16 13:40:04 UTC 43.4K followers, 19K engagements "(mentions other emails senior support ED) ED email 3rd April Lottie this is a compromise Email from GM always a Band X but reasonable to have band X Mentions other emails Why was it felt that SP needed senior support Lc - important because of allegations. If she needed to talk"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946196406227648875) 2025-07-18 13:12:36 UTC 43.9K followers, 19.6K engagements "AG - xmas incident JR - involvement with miss peggie AG - none really JR - what did you enclose with letter AG - all of notes except HCW notes as hadn't returned. JR - those sent on when AG - around 23rd August JR - meeting on 16th AG - yes"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948319611847340087) 2025-07-24 09:49:28 UTC 44K followers, 20.2K engagements "J You could make that. Miss Cunningham NC Could I have a moment to discuss adjourn"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948732603097366691) 2025-07-25 13:10:32 UTC 44K followers, 25.4K engagements "NC X why not say any colleague not involved AH - i wasn't involved policy allows it but less than ideal NC - aren't we seeing departure from normal practice for DU AH - no NC - XXX - email from AW to the ET and C legal reps giving explanations last bullet says planning not"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948395139438657888) 2025-07-24 14:49:35 UTC 44K followers, 25.6K engagements "NC - AG asked this witness a commendably open question answer was flat contradiction of DU said. JR interrupts. withdraws. Repeat qu. her evidence flatly contradicts. KS - says can't recall the conv NC - but recalls there was a conv KS - doesn't say which X people present"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948010512098193659) 2025-07-23 13:21:13 UTC 44K followers, 49.6K engagements "NC I suggest u conspired not to produce it Absolutely not. I'm a dr and trustworthy. NC Yr regulator wld be concerned about this if you hadnt KS we have to work w honesty and integrity"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947666585310659019) 2025-07-22 14:34:34 UTC 44K followers, 392.9K engagements "the allegations so is plural NC - thank you yes. But again that tends to support the suggestion that you were relying on the seriousness of the Christmas Eve allegation to suspend. GM - I think it was all the incidents NC - did you see the detail GM - I don't recall"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945802405263687799) 2025-07-17 11:06:59 UTC 43.9K followers, 15.1K engagements "AG - annual leave me and michele made getting meetings in. JR - person helping was michele sinclair farrow issues AG - unfortunately MSF unwell with her being off and leave it was hard to arrange. JR - to ix activity in may EP statement sent to you 24th april"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948315641997308106) 2025-07-24 09:33:41 UTC 44K followers, 23.1K engagements "NC: SP asked that DU not use the female CR CM: I explained I couldn't guarantee that because not my decision - only that they wd not be working at the same time"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947285542174908830) 2025-07-21 13:20:26 UTC 44K followers, 20.8K engagements "Our previous coverage and a full list of our abbreviations can be found on our Substack Please consider subscribing to our Substack to support our work"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948726331572642090) 2025-07-25 12:45:37 UTC 44K followers, 29.9K engagements "NC - email AG - post NC - im suggesting it was never sent. U say that was sent AG - probably worth explaining. I sent my letters to EC admin and they pit in address a d they send letters out. I dont send them out personally NC - so no personal knowledge it was sent"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948335026497569231) 2025-07-24 10:50:43 UTC 44K followers, 16.3K engagements "KS - EHRC one or J - that's my question there are lots KS - EHRC 2010 before parliament in 2011 says CR use by gender identity J - look beyond to the Act KS - confess not read google excerpts J - did you take notes 29th dec KS - bulleted email to beth after"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948038933746475145) 2025-07-23 15:14:09 UTC 44K followers, 34.2K engagements "to change in GM If we are talking about biological sex then yes NC SS spaces for staff provision is conduct related to sex. That is obvious. JR objects J reasonable q to ask NC This is to do with sex GM Guidance re t member staff was to allow to use f cr so not re sex"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945839328107601975) 2025-07-17 13:33:42 UTC 44K followers, 11.1K engagements "seems a bit harsh language does not acknowledge GC beliefs that they need to be taken into consideration JR - now on to changing facilities and showers please read and explain to the ET how that aligns to your understanding of the topic IB reading"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945433092870509051) 2025-07-16 10:39:28 UTC 44K followers, 28K engagements "NC: Cd you tell tribunal begin with Kate Searle CM: Was in KS office - NC: Why were you there CM: To discuss shifts to get both staff back in workplace. KS expressed unhappiness re SP coming back said patient safety issues had been raised said racist to a doctor"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947277897602863478) 2025-07-21 12:50:04 UTC 43.3K followers, 26.3K engagements "JR - obs are observatins KS - yes ecg blood pressure etc and documenting on chart. JR - 2nd incident KS - Beth called patient didn't respond to call patient presented with MH crisis I think concerned. Peggie was triage nurse asked if concern over leaving"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947624729197597078) 2025-07-22 11:48:15 UTC 44K followers, 28.1K engagements "PD - be moved but not here JR - UCAT pip 30th august date. J - loss of audio 5-10 mins break. *BREAK*"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948688011635687577) 2025-07-25 10:13:21 UTC 44K followers, 38.5K engagements "KS I asked IB and there's no other policy to dispute this NC IB told the tribunal that she doesnt know if she's F or M. Do u know yr F It's on my birth certificate But u know yr F KS That's the gender that was given to me at birth. The sex"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947668900943966384) 2025-07-22 14:43:46 UTC 44K followers, 102.9K engagements "We begin. J - before we start - considered press release of XX jul addressed in submission. No order in realtion to it. Can sit late if needed. Assume you are Miss Harris. Which oath Takes oath. J - explains need for slow answers and speaking up"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947995387203088684) 2025-07-23 12:21:06 UTC 43.9K followers, 32.6K engagements ".but would have referred to Elspeth if she wanted that support. JR - no more questions J - a break now ten minutes"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946196916368249272) 2025-07-18 13:14:38 UTC 43.9K followers, 30K engagements "re how she felt about DU CM Not happy w him but more to do with the event that happened. I was reassured she wldnt treat a T patient any differently than another. So felt her feelings were circumstantial to the sitn JR Read these pages reads re SP feeling sorry for TG and"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947246664516784240) 2025-07-21 10:45:57 UTC 43.3K followers, 58.4K engagements "CM: My decision was to have both staff members back in the dept had had meeting with SP and done full risk assessment"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947277504336601108) 2025-07-21 12:48:30 UTC 43.3K followers, 20.4K engagements "P: You said "on shift" CM: Yes we went into the wellness room - there were a few tears it was a difficult conversation but I was glad to be able to explain to DU in person"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947300731381243935) 2025-07-21 14:20:48 UTC 44K followers, 82.5K engagements "apart. NC - so SP was suspended because she did not want DU in the cr. GM - she was suspended because of the Datix there are a number of allegations that must be investigated. NC - do you agree that patient care allegations were only raised as result of the Christmas Eve"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945803948884996215) 2025-07-17 11:13:07 UTC 43.9K followers, 16.9K engagements "NC - Im suggesting the manner which case is put for the board that my recognition DU is a man is heretical is aligned with the oatds treatment of SP who was also treated as a heretic J - struggling to catch up. What do u mean by heresy NC - a required creed"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948352015232385455) 2025-07-24 11:58:13 UTC 44K followers, 36.2K engagements "any tensions LH - no JR - aware of tensions with other staff over DU use of F CR LH - no JR - another doc 1253 email from MC to you and others 3rd para SP also referred to NMC Know anything that LH - no JR - another doc XXX GM sent to LC and you and ED and KT OfS"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947997158634095035) 2025-07-23 12:28:09 UTC 43.9K followers, 26.5K engagements "The fourth day of the July hearing of Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr B Upton is due to start at 10am. We anticipate a discussion regarding NHS Fife's statement of 18.7.2025 before the next witness Charlotte Myles is called"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947205010908946929) 2025-07-21 08:00:26 UTC 44K followers, 181.3K engagements "If there's a workforce issue someone more senior shld do this work before Beth came to me KS Beth has every right to use the facilities she wants under the GRA. NC What did u look at to satisfy yrself KS If u google it there's many refs for trans ppl and CR"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947668271823532533) 2025-07-22 14:41:16 UTC 44K followers, 86.7K engagements "We will shortly be reporting from day X of the July hearing of Sandie Peggie v Fife Health Board and Dr Upton. The first session is due to start at 11.30am when Naomi Cunningham (NC) will continue her cross examination of Emergency Dept Consultant Dr Kate Searle (KS)"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947963689966903583) 2025-07-23 10:15:09 UTC 44K followers, 103.1K engagements "AG - sandies beliefs there are other ways to raise it JR - how AG - other ways to raise it we have to respect others and use NHS values. JR - who report to AG - manager head of nursing other line managers common someone to call me and say AG can you talk this through w me"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948379666554745076) 2025-07-24 13:48:06 UTC 44K followers, 66.9K engagements "Good morning. Day X morning session of the July hearing of Sandie Peggie v Fife Health Board and Dr Upton will be reported on this thread. The start time is 10am though there may be delays. We expect witnesses Angela Glancey (led investigation) + Anne Hamilton (HR advisor)"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948288981646348529) 2025-07-24 07:47:45 UTC 44K followers, 197.5K engagements "JR - refers to your informing lauren LC - I said to kate I would speak to Lauren next time I saw her. (missed) JR - conv with Miss Peggie - two accounts. in notes When did this happen LC- with SP Sat XX Dec around 4pm"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946194004950835571) 2025-07-18 13:03:03 UTC 44K followers, 37.1K engagements "the woman's changing room. GM - she was upset with DU being in the CR NC - is there nothing in that statement that indicates that she was upset that a man was in the woman's changing room GM - Beth "SP kept saying I was not a woman' NC - doesn't that mean that he's a man"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945814354420535609) 2025-07-17 11:54:28 UTC 44K followers, 15.4K engagements "We resume. J Want to raise a point re timing. We have a problem with timing. We have to leave the building by 5pm so feel appropriate to stop at XXXX as has been a long and tiring week. Do we go part heard w this witness. JR - do you have a view"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948731734733869274) 2025-07-25 13:07:05 UTC 44K followers, 28.5K engagements "a PC cld be a HC. And DU has a PC. JR Why do u think u were informed of the incident by KS MC As I'm an ED consultant. I'm one of the older consultants and ppl think I've experienced things others havent. Plus I'm dep clinical lead"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948741237369893064) 2025-07-25 13:44:51 UTC 44K followers, 62.4K engagements "JR - the 's not once but twice inappropriate from expert independent. JB - I thought fair comment that's why they are there JR - not saying what you said the puncutation a level of zeal unusual for skilled witness in a court of law. JB - maybe should have been a"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948711320792060302) 2025-07-25 11:45:58 UTC 44K followers, 65.4K engagements "JR Witness returns on Tues. Submission on Tues and mine on Weds J Possibly swears in witness I take evidence down by hand so please go slowly JR What's your full name. MC Been at Fife since March 2010. I'm deputy clinical lead in ED"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948734490500575277) 2025-07-25 13:18:02 UTC 44K followers, 25K engagements "NC it's not exact LC - to give me prompts in future NC- eg of this in last para - she told me she had confronted the dr and advised she should not be in there because she is not female. But SP says he doesn't she LC - I don't recall. NC - SP didn't use word confront"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946204654485860361) 2025-07-18 13:45:23 UTC 43.2K followers, 18.8K engagements "Panel You were asked re your role and you said you offered leadership with no direct reports. What are you responsible for. GM inc Governance complaints adverse events and provide leadership for directorship - patient care standards P You have no direct line management"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945854595722322302) 2025-07-17 14:34:22 UTC 43.3K followers, 15.9K engagements "AG - yes JR - XXX - ix meeting with ED on 26th april AG - yes JR - XXX - ix iv with KS also 26th april. Amended version (bundle ref) explain process notes were sent to witnesses and amendments made AG - each meeting explain process they get notes from meeting and have X weeks"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948316035385344204) 2025-07-24 09:35:15 UTC 44K followers, 23.4K engagements "isla Bryson sorry Isla bumba KS - JR - on the changing room 26th Aug 2023 incident did she say KS - not sure we talked on 29th dec might have been mentioned before and why I wrote 8th Dec. JR - you reviewed hate policy quick look then likely break fo rlunch"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947626338447200336) 2025-07-22 11:54:38 UTC 44K followers, 80.4K engagements "NC: ref this is letter from you 28/3 to SP telling her risk assessment says return to work with diff shift pattern from DU shd be explored. You mention assemessment of risk - you made the assessment during 7/3 mtg and said propose to revoke end of that day CM Yes"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947276743854747971) 2025-07-21 12:45:29 UTC 43.3K followers, 20K engagements "EP - what I understood to be the tone the tone was said in an aggressive and an unkind way. JR - Did DU refer to anything about demeanour EP - in the CR JR - yes EP - she said she felt cornered JR - what do you thinks he meant by that EP - I did not interpret it it was what"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946143831285453255) 2025-07-18 09:43:41 UTC 44K followers, 40.4K engagements "and it would have been career ending if reported to NMC LC - can't comment on what NMC would do NC - email from KS to DU you're not copied have you seen this before. LC No NC do you want to read it now LC -Yes please"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946215782423151021) 2025-07-18 14:29:36 UTC 43.3K followers, 20.2K engagements "CE - now the sync issue - 1700 - read what you say para X. JB - sc sh 18-20 log of actions attempt to show actions. I could not replicate creation date post dates edit date. not possible CE - explain JB - report explains google note version histories"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948703004875436430) 2025-07-25 11:12:56 UTC 44K followers, 27.9K engagements "KS - speak to line manager if not content if not content with response escalate to their lead and other ways up the chain. J - who within Fife may have given approval to DU to use FCR KS - don't think it was ever discussed don't know but don't think discussed outwith dept"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948040373319725415) 2025-07-23 15:19:52 UTC 44K followers, 36.4K engagements "NC - further version 1538 completed 4th Nov big gap not a lot happens final version 13th December. In that gap a request for further iv with ED. Your idea AH - just when we reviewed info in report AG wanted to ask some more qu NC - when versions sent between you tracking"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948387596737896859) 2025-07-24 14:19:37 UTC 44K followers, 25.4K engagements "Detail amd he tells u of two more occasions including when SP withdrew from CR. It seems in this ix u still have seen complaint document. AG - yes NC - wasnt it obvious there was something u hadn't seen at this point AG - he Beth gave me an account at the time"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948341743864160290) 2025-07-24 11:17:24 UTC 44K followers, 31.1K engagements "NC - without being seen. KS - I'm worried about including someone who doesn't want to be involved. it's not fair on her. JR - can we have a break J - tell us when ready to continue Court rises"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948007751482781916) 2025-07-23 13:10:14 UTC 43.9K followers, 66.2K engagements "NC - shes addressing a number of ppl including u so would be an email in ur possession AG - thats about witnesses NC - now a few Qs about. sorry lost track of time J - might be best to have a break BREAK"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948337596209287172) 2025-07-24 11:00:55 UTC 44K followers, 25.5K engagements "JR - March page 1356 this email you to LM XX March about shifts on graduated return why was this being sent to Lottie LC - that Sandie should be fully supported and allocated shifts for senior support. JR - p330 emails other bundle. 2nd and 3rd April. LM email to you and ED"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946196004946026864) 2025-07-18 13:11:00 UTC 43.9K followers, 20.3K engagements "KS Like the GMC we have to act w/out discrim and with kindness and compassion at all times. I dont recall this nor know if a referral to NMC was made. JR new doc Response from MC to the consultants: what did u make of it"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947652313252077850) 2025-07-22 13:37:51 UTC 43.9K followers, 25.3K engagements "JR - was was workforce policy AG - just general conduct JR - when did you get it AG - prob mid-march went on hols end march just before JR - first meeting with HR about ix AG - met AH JR - when AG - mid march then michele when she returned JR - what with AH"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948311752107532559) 2025-07-24 09:18:14 UTC 44K followers, 25.6K engagements "LC - 2020 prior to promotion NC so this policy we heard from EP informal meetings between consultants and senior nurses this policy of letting upton using Cr was not communicated to those expect to undress in front a man LC - I wasn't at that meeting"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946210784343650488) 2025-07-18 14:09:44 UTC 43.9K followers, 31.5K engagements "KS - could infer NC - not stated is it KS - no NC - you would have mentioned if you'd been told to shut it down - whole truth KS - I would have NC - you aren't subject ot any disciplinary proceedings because of that email KS - no NC - AG 18th ap to you - meeting invite"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948028961772261772) 2025-07-23 14:34:31 UTC 44K followers, 112.5K engagements "was to tell her suspension was to be lifted GM Don't agree NC That decision to lift suspension was cos MG was objecting to suspension on no proper grounds. GM missed NC Friday X March you to MJ - further risk assessment supported returning to workplace on different"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945835280738513109) 2025-07-17 13:17:37 UTC 43.6K followers, 16.1K engagements "AH - I was fitting in between times NC - 1260 - sorry XXX - we see email from MSF to various inc you says know AG not in today I'm not tomorrow CLO chasing with urgency - 16th april urgency sets in only because a claim raised. Only thing making urgency perceived"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948396112433279002) 2025-07-24 14:53:27 UTC 44K followers, 21.9K engagements "JR Email from Doyle on XXXXX re Sensitive: CR. Who had u been in touch with MC With IB. It says Sept but was XX August. JR What convo did u have MC I contacted IB to ensure what we were doing was appropriate. As a trans indiv was entitled to use the bathroom of the gender"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948737395798556920) 2025-07-25 13:29:35 UTC 44K followers, 25.1K engagements "standalone post. We usually have a lot of applicants JR Who interviewed MC Me and another colleague. We interviewed XX for XX posts. Pre-employment checks done by HR including NHS Scotland checks occ health to ensure ppl adeq protected. More staright forward if worked here"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948736333045698949) 2025-07-25 13:25:22 UTC 44K followers, 26K engagements "JR - not pu tto the witness NC - will put it DU is obviously a man KS - no NC - under oath credibility important saying you woundn't know DU was a TW unless told KS - wouldn't have known what sex DU assigned at birth NC - he said just like person in prisons agreed"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948016987319197914) 2025-07-23 13:46:56 UTC 44K followers, 117.1K engagements "MC There was nothing in the checks JR When aware of T status MC Before interview. We had a brief convo and asked if was aware was trans. I answered I had wondered. JR When did this happen MC Sometime during the recruitment process I cant remember exactly"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948736924018991561) 2025-07-25 13:27:43 UTC 44K followers, 33.2K engagements "JR U said a concern re being on the same shifts. Why MC DU was v distressed and had been another diff interaction. SP works fixed night shifts which means the point of concern is begin/end of shift. Overlap between staff meant the day before and after wld be difficult for DU"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948744952764092835) 2025-07-25 13:59:37 UTC 44K followers, 20.9K engagements "She relied on the code of practice. NC Try again. Women who believe bio sex is real and sometimes matters my see t id men as men not woman. They still see a man if that's what they think. GM yes NC So if you provide ss bio spaces for staff it's to do with SP"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945840016007065812) 2025-07-17 13:36:26 UTC 44K followers, 11.7K engagements "J - Would u like time to think about this over lunch Converse about time to come back We will come back at 2pm. HEARING ADJOURNED FOR LUNCH Back at 2pm"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948352478560367100) 2025-07-24 12:00:04 UTC 44K followers, 46.1K engagements "NC Probably need a break for court stenographers Short break"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945475353784283642) 2025-07-16 13:27:24 UTC 43.9K followers, 22.5K engagements "suspension was because of her gender critical belief. GM - the suspension was because of the risk assessment that was done NC - so the entire suspension process was because of her GC belief JR - a multi part question NC - I thought we had agreed that SP was complaining about"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945815333152985479) 2025-07-17 11:58:21 UTC 43.9K followers, 16.9K engagements "NC I'm suggesting we dont see this subject line v often. We see catch up and HI but isnt used commonly. we see an email chain at XXX to the same group that MC was emailing on X Jan that we've looked at. But not copied to MC's email at the bottom"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947664062768144431) 2025-07-22 14:24:33 UTC 44K followers, 40.1K engagements "P1 - CM conv can you tell us any conv you had with her then KS - i remember her in dept but don't recall any conv. J - thanks is there a procedure on how you do datix reports KS - yes J - do you remember what it says KS - use for all sorts of incidents give a timeline"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948038067337457806) 2025-07-23 15:10:42 UTC 44K followers, 32.6K engagements "JR Look at the follow up Datix report. Have u seen it b4 MC Not recently JR U have received this at Xmas XX Incident re PC of Nurse A and Dr B. Did u know who these ppl were when u received the Datix MC long pause JR It's dated XX Dec MC Um. Yes I think I was at that"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948739318039618042) 2025-07-25 13:37:13 UTC 44K followers, 23.4K engagements "NC - sure JR will take you to it if it exists. NC - XXX - email from AW XX th june. not cc'd to you but fwd'd MJ forwards to you. AH - yes NC - AW's email including doc formal complaint with incident concerns from DU - resus missing patient AH - yes"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948394132344299846) 2025-07-24 14:45:35 UTC 44K followers, 22.3K engagements "with AG "if Beth walks in Sandie walks out if I witnessed this I would deal with it. LC -if it had been brought to me as direct info yes I would deal with it. NC p534 the first four lines one occasion resus patient"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946214610387755119) 2025-07-18 14:24:56 UTC 43K followers, 21.2K engagements "NC - was flatly factual about language. Beyond doubt JR is exorcised no doubt on instruction of client on the qu of language. nothing arguably pejorative about exorcised not did I accuse her of heresy. One aspect of C case is SP has been treated as heretic deserving of punish"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948368542392340745) 2025-07-24 13:03:54 UTC 44K followers, 26.6K engagements "gender chromosomes is not correct. There are others than XX and XY that affect ppls sex characteristics. ALso mosaicism - where s'one has chromosomes are mixed J instructs quiet MC Mosaicism is v rare and when have X diff sets of chrormosomes. Most well known is post bone"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948746040015827331) 2025-07-25 14:03:56 UTC 44K followers, 100.7K engagements "AG - sandie would be right to say its the no its the F CR NC - 1237 - 2nd jan GM email to a group not you attaching datix 1236 see GM forwards to Norma Beverage NB AG - director of nursing C - you knew that role AG yes NC quite important role AG - yes NC - email says"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948372494093586591) 2025-07-24 13:19:36 UTC 44K followers, 24.3K engagements "JR - email you mentioned about return to work AG - the one from GM just says FYI as investigating manager JR - involvement in return to work AG - no JR - XXX 10th April from CM to you re ix asking for electronic notes what were they. Middle para refs notes"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948311061469303186) 2025-07-24 09:15:29 UTC 44K followers, 25.6K engagements "P1 - first was susx check list what is that AG - check list of have you done everything meant to do contacts representative etc P1 - diff from risk assessment AG - yes P - did you see risk assessment AG- just chekc list and record. P1 - around same time AH gave you names"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948373627704848501) 2025-07-24 13:24:06 UTC 44K followers, 22K engagements "NC: Spiteful tittle-tattle then CM: As I say I made sure to stick solely to brief to review suspension. NC: And what did Louise Curran say CM: Again same rumours - something about Donald Trump. But. Nothing harmful to the board. Ppl entitled to private views"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947295844593549754) 2025-07-21 14:01:23 UTC 43.4K followers, 29.4K engagements "KS I dint make an approach to Sp about her feeling uncomfortable NC U saw her removing herself from CR as bad behaviour KS Beth felt uncomfirtable that SP didnt want to engage.she was the only one behaving like this NC That's not the Q"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947672801147543664) 2025-07-22 14:59:16 UTC 44K followers, 157.8K engagements "CM: It's a workplace where things are discussed all the time not always correctly so wanted to explain to DU that it was my decision here wanted to support both DU & SP. DU took it quite well better than I'd expected"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947300560970907751) 2025-07-21 14:20:07 UTC 44K followers, 27.7K engagements "JB - elsewhere J - ask re dots JB - I can't recreate what's shown might be correct but the version history to the right i just can't repeat what is on the screen JR - google gives notes in create order JB - yes JR - framework for Ucat aip note if that was created the thing"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948713728196628594) 2025-07-25 11:55:32 UTC 44K followers, 22.6K engagements "I can't remember the exact words but I remember feeling very sad it must have been so hurtful a thing to hear. I felt very sad when I heard that comment that was when Dr U was so upset. I had to comfort DU. Was crying so much. JR - what sort of crying can you describe"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946143055037247697) 2025-07-18 09:40:36 UTC 44K followers, 214.2K engagements "CE - on this qu 1720 is relevant documentary record says not possible JR - PD - would you like to comment JR - suggests you didn't PD - was there all the time JR - back to 1659 rh column have you read Your views PD - google orders by time as default however can"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948687730885407096) 2025-07-25 10:12:14 UTC 44K followers, 23.2K engagements "AG - to make any changes. KS changed some of hers JR - last thing in april meeting LC 26th april. AG - that's blank JR - AG - just my qu JR - did you meet her AG X yes JR - X may met DU yes AG - yes JR - 1420 - DU makes amendments as well. AG - yes"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948316476655431888) 2025-07-24 09:37:00 UTC 44K followers, 26.4K engagements "Good morning. This is the fifth day of the July session of hearings in Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr B Upton. Due to start at 10am. Today we expect the first witness to be Kate Searle A&E consultant"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947559697256501349) 2025-07-22 07:29:50 UTC 44K followers, 307.3K engagements "NC - if you had been cc'd or seen draft any concerns about it AH - no had a brief conv about replacing nothing concerning NC - any comparable email to SP why change of ix progress or why ED not involved AH - would have expected it from ED or GM"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948393640096633166) 2025-07-24 14:43:37 UTC 44K followers, 22.8K engagements "J How long do u have to go NC I need another hr. I underestimated the time J Can u return tmrw KS KS Yes I can J Can u return at 11am tomorrow so u dont have a long wait We'll do well to complete SK before lunch. How long for the other witnesses JR Maggie Curra discuss"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947674202586419592) 2025-07-22 15:04:50 UTC 44K followers, 47.1K engagements "J Actually can u return at XXXXX and we may need a late lunch tomorrow. JR I have a lot of Qs to ask - I have been saving these up. NC I may need more time w MC J We need to be careful about our timetble JR Lauren Harris was due to come tmrw but she may have to come another"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947674703159493109) 2025-07-22 15:06:49 UTC 44K followers, 46.9K engagements "AG - gave names of peopl DU KS Sp - others JR - and next contact AG - hoped meeting notes had gone out but hadn't then 17th april with Michele also to include EP JR - why hadn't notes gone out AG - I was on leave HR didn't want to sign off without speaking to me"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948312157642191114) 2025-07-24 09:19:50 UTC 44K followers, 25.1K engagements "We will hopefully be reporting from Day X of the July hearing of Sandie Peggie v Fife Health Board and Dr Upton. The first session was in private + ran into lunch. At 1.15pm when Naomi Cunningham (NC) will continue her cross of Emergency Dept Consultant Dr Kate Searle (KS)"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947988433592369629) 2025-07-23 11:53:29 UTC 44K followers, 165.1K engagements "JR - staff member KS - asked if she recalled she was concerned about getting invoved in conv she said I am mixed race I am worrued about getting involved for my own safety. JR - what do you think she meant KS - this at this point meant this legal case press attention"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947625356791325112) 2025-07-22 11:50:44 UTC 44K followers, 38K engagements "JR - comment on sc sh not taken during call PD - they were taken during call CE - hello I'm asking qu for SP pick up first on quandry version hist dates showing creation 26th Oct. you say no tech explanation PD -not that I'm aware of CE - 1645 - sc sh of file locations"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948680428153700604) 2025-07-25 09:43:13 UTC 44K followers, 26.2K engagements "day J I'll let you sort out the timetable between you. See you tomorrow SESSION ENDS"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947675119955927145) 2025-07-22 15:08:29 UTC 44K followers, 69.6K engagements "JR - what did you say about how SP address hte meeting AG - what do you mean union rep Statement JR - you describe logistics and you are entitled to trade union rep. what did you advise AG - could have RCN rep had brought to meeting 9th may could bring colleague instead"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948319937639981309) 2025-07-24 09:50:45 UTC 44K followers, 20.8K engagements "GM - it was the manner in which she went about raising the issue Beth felt intimidated and harassed. NC - I'm about to go on to another area of questioning and conscious of the time. J - lets break for lunch back at X pm. Court rises"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945816346974879991) 2025-07-17 12:02:23 UTC 44K followers, 82.8K engagements "Otherwise e'one wld be in the to box. NC They're the same ppl except DU was added in in Jan. You can understand why ppl wldnt have wanted this email see the light of day KS I cant belive we wld have held back emails NC The X Jan email is seriously embarrasing to the Rs"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947665173600178300) 2025-07-22 14:28:57 UTC 44K followers, 85.4K engagements "NC - DU if so - it's the same KS - no NC - will address in submissions NC - all SP has done is the equivilent of saying go away Pete KS - told the approach was not like that NC - only continues because DU didn't leave stood ground conv continued. KS - no DU says tried to end it"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948016382177644815) 2025-07-23 13:44:32 UTC 43.9K followers, 58.4K engagements ".after making these general comments we will leave this until Monday. some discussion about people's availability Anything else nothing J we will convene on Monday"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946231961439154538) 2025-07-18 15:33:53 UTC 43.3K followers, 34.7K engagements "MC Whenever a medical staff member is struggling w an experience we'll share it w the team. We work shifts so is highly varied which juniors we work with. We need to be aware if any jr is struggling to ensure it doesnt impact their ability to work and check they're ok"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948740120410046842) 2025-07-25 13:40:25 UTC 44K followers, 27.9K engagements "That goalposts had moved AG - the first was described and explained on 12th April and then letter sent to SP 15th may theres X further allegations. Letter 19th says all allegations prev discussed NC - but nothing about 'further to my letter of q5th may' AG -unsure why id do that"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948335769929629798) 2025-07-24 10:53:40 UTC 44K followers, 14.9K engagements "AG - DU was unsure of dates but J - pause please AG - incidents discussed 9th may with DU then had first meeting with SF and SP discussed what it was about. MSF and I had further discussion after and thought important to add"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948318488939942090) 2025-07-24 09:45:00 UTC 44K followers, 20.4K engagements "JR - Jim Borwick XX mins chief XX cross then Maggie Curra. *RISE*"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948403022914036180) 2025-07-24 15:20:54 UTC 44K followers, 40.2K engagements "EP - DU feeling quite threatened at that point I thought it was the right thing to do to be by side in case something happened however unlikely I was the consultant it was my job to look after people JR - how long did convo last EP - about XX minutes"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946144970521432556) 2025-07-18 09:48:13 UTC 43.9K followers, 112.5K engagements "info what were you looking for KS - hoping trust policy supporting TG staff in workplace. JR - her reply describe reponse. KS - no trust policy for staff or patients either I think hope to have one. JR - why send that email 8th Dec KS - don't recall JR - Xmas 2023"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947621518965403730) 2025-07-22 11:35:29 UTC 43.4K followers, 30.1K engagements "JR - further update 28th feb GM going to consider AH - yes she called next day to suggest AG JR - who told ED off the ix AH - don't know actually JR - 1314 - ref in KS email 15th march AH says an independent person appointed ref to AG AH - yes JR - next involvement"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948384351722291454) 2025-07-24 14:06:43 UTC 44K followers, 22.6K engagements "NC - do u feel confident that everything u produced has turned up in this bundle AG - yes Turns to another doc NC - reads do u know what that other email was AG - thats from MSF so dont know"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948337239588544790) 2025-07-24 10:59:30 UTC 44K followers, 14.7K engagements "HI - hate incident HR - Human Rights IX - investigation SX - suspension GM - Gillian Malone Director of Nursing NHS Fife EA - Equality Act 2010 PC - protected characteristic; X under EA RA = risk assessment"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947205030282432977) 2025-07-21 08:00:31 UTC 43.3K followers, 56K engagements "KS phoned distressed they wldnt need to explain JR Why imp for the X not to meet KS She'd met SP in the am of the shift trying to keep to her shifts and having bumped into her she was v upset feeling v threatened - just from seeing her. we had to ensure they didnt see each"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947648375257763928) 2025-07-22 13:22:12 UTC 43.9K followers, 33.8K engagements "KS - should treat as GI present J - then however did you read KS - yes J - what did you think as whole KS - exclusion needs to be a proportionate means would need good reason to exclude DU from SS CR J - one qu is whether theres a distinction between publilc or work"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948039727279661088) 2025-07-23 15:17:18 UTC 44K followers, 30.8K engagements "JR - additional docs bundle 1703 - won't have seen this is outcome of conduct hearing. Says whilst i find o conclusive evidence satisfied caused distress as a RN would expect for you to deescalate and suggest training which should be submitted to RNC for revalidation"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948043889291493841) 2025-07-23 15:33:50 UTC 44K followers, 33.9K engagements "KS - foundation jobs also looked up EHRC statutory act as DU ID as F she has every right to use F CR JR - anything else KS - looked for Fife policy wasn't one. JR - in bundle later in Dec your email to IB you say first transgender dr v little info available asking for"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947621214144299301) 2025-07-22 11:34:17 UTC 43.4K followers, 29.7K engagements "📰 A reminder that a continuing & comprehensive collection of press coverage on Sandie Peggie v Fife Health Board & Dr B Upton is available on our Substack. Weve gathered all the latest articles & statements in one place - and keep it updated as new stories emerge. Link below"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946919210870788253) 2025-07-20 13:04:46 UTC 44K followers, 48.6K engagements "JR - can you describe what DU did PD - DU did production of sc sh i advised as filled log. Had full visual of what file path going to where mouse on screen. JR - 1643 - top says beth did this at request of AW and while watched by AW and PD PD - yes JR - read comments"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948687306732208247) 2025-07-25 10:10:33 UTC 44K followers, 24.9K engagements "We're back J - KS ready KS - yes J - if need a break say NC - the mendion of health care assist seemed to upset you a great deal why KS - i spoke to her about being a witness didn't herself or her name to be involved in this case. NC - upset because wanted to protect"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948009398996967519) 2025-07-23 13:16:47 UTC 43.9K followers, 41.2K engagements "I didnt recall it and was asked to look for it NC You were never asked until v recently to trawl for any material that wld fall into that order KS As part of this process I dont recall all emails. We were asked for emails that pertained. I dont recall being asked to trawl my"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947658826603209014) 2025-07-22 14:03:44 UTC 44K followers, 44K engagements "NC - started till april due to leave and annual leave. is that an adequate excuse for not starting on an incident at Xmas eve AH - planning had to be started again because ix manager changed NC - reason given was leave AH - was a lot of leave NC - you and MSF gave advice"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948395509200109836) 2025-07-24 14:51:03 UTC 44K followers, 24K engagements "LC - unacceptable tone mainly the threatening behaviour Jr - examples of harassing behaviours = types LC - yes gender reassignment gender identity failure to use requested pronouns Why is this relevant LC - because trans people come under protected charas"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946191583532962015) 2025-07-18 12:53:26 UTC 44K followers, 72.3K engagements "KS I agree we shldnt have written these things in this group. I cant say whether it's been withheld. I dont think u can prove the emails were linked NC These emails werent produced for the 1st hearings were they KS It appears not NC There were X of you in this chain"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947665871394029765) 2025-07-22 14:31:44 UTC 44K followers, 339.4K engagements "JR - EP invited to meeting can see 18th April AG - couldn't attend 26th JR - one to ED and one to KS - 1341 - LC XXX all sent 18th April AG - yes JR - also 18th michele emails you ED advises issues around SP leaving cubicles need to know issues and what was done"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948314576572887267) 2025-07-24 09:29:27 UTC 44K followers, 23.1K engagements "G C belief - that sex matters GM don't understand q NC I'll leave it there. NC It was obvious re suspension/ d/x process that SP was unhappy. That she felt f cr being used by man intimidating and humiliating. GM Yes on Xmas eve NC ED doesn't doubt genuineness of SP feelings"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945840404718297456) 2025-07-17 13:37:59 UTC 44K followers, 11.7K engagements "NC - language around T people suggested breech of art X rights to not use their choice of pronouns privacy JR - not privacy dignity NC - also suggested it's an interference with right to fair trial not to use DU pref pronouns. Summary of DU evidence"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948388568453259531) 2025-07-24 14:23:28 UTC 44K followers, 24.3K engagements "NC - confused by them AG - I know you mean DU NC - no signs of distress AG - no but I've misgendered DU and it's not something I'd normally do. NC - trained yourself into the habit AG - it's what I've been asked to do NC - tricky to remember AG - no"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948371136477012296) 2025-07-24 13:14:12 UTC 44K followers, 36.2K engagements "NC - alarming conv you would remember KS - yes it would be alarming in hindsight gathered incidents look like a trend NC - weren't reported because they didn't happen KS - disagree NC - bringing up with CM to change her mind about SP return to work KS - do not recall conv of"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948032525198123224) 2025-07-23 14:48:41 UTC 44K followers, 44.6K engagements "nurses welfare GM y NC So if you thought that it was an affront to dignity etc of your nurses to let a t man use the cr it would up to you to speak up about that GM yes NC LM email to you re mtg with SP X March. LM records SP asks why DU couldn't be moved/ asked to change"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945837831739322680) 2025-07-17 13:27:45 UTC 43.7K followers, 9377 engagements "AG - I agreed it was my wording. JR - why go with SP version AG - in notes she said say something didn't think it imp. One was my interpretation one what SP said. JR - IX notes I said if I was in the same position again I'd have to say something. What do you think"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948323859104453117) 2025-07-24 10:06:20 UTC 44K followers, 23K engagements "NC - Looking back at DU email 17th April. His offer of more detail reads It sounds from that that he thinks there are X versions of his story in boards possession AG - cant answer that - i knew X statements NC - this is part of your ix with DU and u do accept his offer of more"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948341310290592183) 2025-07-24 11:15:41 UTC 44K followers, 26.4K engagements "was wrong in the same way a mna in F prison is wrong. KS - no it was a well known case like saying DU is like a convicted rapist in a F prison NC - saying SP said isla bryson KS - I think we just agreed that is what she meant J - qu was did she use the words KS - no she didn't"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948023810751414275) 2025-07-23 14:14:03 UTC 44K followers, 57.2K engagements "AG - first time I'd heard anything about patient care was due to meet DU in a couple of weeks. JR - about DU meeting. email from you to KS asked if she could be DU support you say not ideal I've had a chat and we will iv you first AG - would normally hear DU first"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948314898401820796) 2025-07-24 09:30:44 UTC 44K followers, 23.5K engagements "NC one alt to SP was to change in toilet LC - yes NC youve seen her in there LC yes regularly NC - nurses need to change at work for reasons of hygiene LC - I didn't say change in the toilets. SP didn't ask what alternatives were"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946211095389098412) 2025-07-18 14:10:58 UTC 43.9K followers, 25.6K engagements "JR - final letter 15th May you state avoid discussing why AG - standard template letter encourage all involved in ix's not to discuss other than with us or union rep for fairness. JR - XXX - you asked DU for more info on patient info she gives more info on that"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948318810152345853) 2025-07-24 09:46:17 UTC 44K followers, 19.9K engagements "JR How were interests between SP and DU balanced MC pause An email chain among the ED consultant team. The mgmt process betwn drs and nurses is v separate which is my prev experience w/in the NHS. V little involvement in mgmt between the two"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948741574403224007) 2025-07-25 13:46:11 UTC 44K followers, 25.8K engagements "It's a decision made at birth by the ppl delivering the baby I believe. I'm not an expert at it. NC So sex assigned at birth is whether u have a M or F body Yes NC Bio sex is very important lists re responses to drugs normal ranges for bld results KS Yes"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947669136017912103) 2025-07-22 14:44:42 UTC 44K followers, 598.1K engagements "JB - dates it's not possible. CE - can you explain how these screenshots are poss JB - scsh XX for eg reports a version hist of. J - hang on JB - scsh20 porports note edited on CE - can I break it down note below it JB - starts alpha med the one where version hist shows"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948704912151368129) 2025-07-25 11:20:30 UTC 44K followers, 28.8K engagements "Day X morning session X will continue here"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948688797303988470) 2025-07-25 10:16:28 UTC 44K followers, 114.7K engagements "above was created first JB - not necessarily theres a tick top left shows a facility to pin a note to the top so the logic doesn't work it's put at top as priority JR - comment is this one was below something else JB - the scsh to the left appears to say the framework appear"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948714089892430169) 2025-07-25 11:56:59 UTC 44K followers, 21.9K engagements "AG - all info has been discussed in previous letters NC - SP is adamant she never received May letter. I suggest because it wasn't sent bc the Board was in turmoil about whether or not there was sufficient in patient care allegations to pin on SP AG - disagree"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948336030425260317) 2025-07-24 10:54:42 UTC 44K followers, 15.5K engagements "NC - so if I ask you to pick out the worst thing what is it GM - she keeps telling Beth that she finds him intimidating and keeps repeating that NC - so what was happening here was that SP was saying that sex matters in this situation you may want to pretend you're a woman"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945813218540048834) 2025-07-17 11:49:57 UTC 44K followers, 29.5K engagements "HEARING RESUMES 12:11 NC - I'm going to ask a few Qs about ix now. So looking at email top of page from DU to u. U have contacted him about meeting 26th April and he asks if u want his full statement including Xmas eve incident. We see u talk about dates but dont answer"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948340728079229210) 2025-07-24 11:13:22 UTC 44K followers, 23.6K engagements "JR - assist trib any emails between XX and 23rd may AH - no JR - asked a no of qu on the heresy issue. you answered one whether board punishing SP you said no. Others do you agree patient safety allegations untrue you can answer AH - no evidnece no independent evidence"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948402242937045206) 2025-07-24 15:17:48 UTC 44K followers, 22K engagements "AG - but if KS was sitting in important we heard her evidence first. JR - now it's april incident was dec complaint dated 23rd Jan. WHy delay to interviews AG - as said only asked to take ix on 29th Feb can't say why delay before not involved. From when I took on"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948315195299811334) 2025-07-24 09:31:55 UTC 44K followers, 24.7K engagements "21aug edit date slightly diff colour and creation on 26oct. Only way to make it look that way is the version hist is superimposed. Not a note ass with google keep CE - anything else on XX that looks like superimposition JB - yes version hist and not possible to have date with"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948705258647035909) 2025-07-25 11:21:53 UTC 44K followers, 49.2K engagements "NC: Can see it was not your ability to say but what SP was being told was that any man cd use female CR if the wanted CM: I don't know what anyone more senior was saying. NC: But can you see that saying DrU wd still be using that is what SP is hearing"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947285794432921652) 2025-07-21 13:21:26 UTC 44K followers, 18.6K engagements "We're tweeting the second afternoon session of Peggie v Fife NHS Board and Dr Upton. Naomi Cunningham will be cross examining ED consultant Kate Searle"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947656145868308870) 2025-07-22 13:53:05 UTC 44K followers, 174.8K engagements "MC marrow transplant so carry both. Sex chromosomes in addit to XX (F)and XY can be XO where the other chromosome is blank. YO is not survivable. Also XXY and XYY. These are all recognised syndromes JR Are there names MC Xo is Turners. XYY is Klinefelters and XXY is"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948746595786207529) 2025-07-25 14:06:09 UTC 44K followers, 105.9K engagements "NC - say no to DU AG - don't know NC - from start senior people involved knew SP needed to be punished for the offence of not agreeing to use of CR AG - no. P1 - at start of evidence taken to XXX asked about notes said it was paperwork mentioned things in it"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948373307461423316) 2025-07-24 13:22:50 UTC 44K followers, 22.8K engagements "NC by this date reading out Were u aware of it KS An order for documents I.I'm not sure. I don't know NC An email between u and IB on XXX that was provided to the C's before the order was made. Did u provide it/ KS I've trawled all my emails but before this I wasnt"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947658083716546794) 2025-07-22 14:00:47 UTC 44K followers, 47.9K engagements "KS - emailed to her J - electronic note as you went KS - no J - who is KS - GP trainee at the time J - 1123 please - back to qu of what you looked at. appears to be front page of stat code of pract X pages within that heading GI disc in SSspaces KS - yes"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948039390258762104) 2025-07-23 15:15:58 UTC 44K followers, 29.7K engagements "GC /SR: gender critical or sex realists. Belief that biological sex is important immutable and different from gender identity GI Gender identity is a person's internal sense of their own gender which may or may not align with their birth sex"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947561944312922272) 2025-07-22 07:38:46 UTC 43.9K followers, 46K engagements "I said I'd spoken w SP and wld be having a mtg. I wasnt surprised by req for MSP to attend as was used to this type of thing. JR The SX RA filled in by CM Me JR Who completed the summary I did. It was a summary of the actual meeting. JR Look at p1334"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947242626639372441) 2025-07-21 10:29:54 UTC 43.9K followers, 26.2K engagements "CE - you accept its one explanation that DU is misleading PD - I don't believe CE - JB's report 1643 - scsh shows note in google account dialogue box too we see coloured box says hi elizabeth can edited info sit behind that PD - edited time stamp Yes that would be behind"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948683280288809219) 2025-07-25 09:54:33 UTC 44K followers, 26.6K engagements "NC: So on 12/3 you wrote to SP saying you were revoking the suspension CM: Yes NC: You met SP 7/3 satisified yourself esp re risk you presumably didn't fill in the form on the spot CM: No - took shorthand notes and filled out later"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947279532307693822) 2025-07-21 12:56:33 UTC 43.2K followers, 22K engagements "NC - a request made in September unfortunately you are muddling up the suspension checklist with the risk assessment. I need the original risk assessment. It doesn't seem that any risk assessment was actually done by ED at the time. GM - I can't recall"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945802723997184408) 2025-07-17 11:08:15 UTC 43.9K followers, 16.6K engagements "Good morning. Day X morning session of the July hearing of Sandie Peggie v NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Upton will be reported on this thread. The start time is 10am. We expect witnesses Peter Donaldson (PD) and Jim Borwick (JB) both IT experts and Dr Maggie Currer (MC)"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948634213789347997) 2025-07-25 06:39:35 UTC 44K followers, 195.1K engagements "NC - for reasons of hygiene it is unacceptable to change in toilet LC yes but people do that. there is a pause in proceedings"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946211325891276965) 2025-07-18 14:11:53 UTC 43.9K followers, 34.4K engagements "CM: Wd really have to think about this - can't answer now. NC : Not fair to compromise XXX women to satisfy X man. CM: Dr U identifies as a woman that's how I think so that's not what it was"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947300024708206601) 2025-07-21 14:17:59 UTC 44K followers, 106.1K engagements "KS - policy said intimidating or offensive in way you say that's enough. If everyone was kind and said things another say there was no need for it to come to this. NC - think briefly about another person not a man who thinks/wishes he was a woman - a man in mans clothes - Pete"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948015404087181576) 2025-07-23 13:40:39 UTC 44K followers, 180.7K engagements "NC - so far u have let SP know u are only lxing Xmas eve incident AG - yes NC - notified SP of X allegations AG - no thats er . sorry what were u saying. NC - turn to XXX and u will see. That letter was never sent was it AG - I. Im sure the EC admin would have sent"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948334697605443884) 2025-07-24 10:49:24 UTC 44K followers, 16.2K engagements "NC - knew all about everything the only person being told not to discuss was sandie. True LH - we were all told not to discuss only these emails NC - no more Qu J - nothing any reexam JR - no JR - X min break J - yes. BREAK"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948002358132130287) 2025-07-23 12:48:48 UTC 43.9K followers, 25.8K engagements "AG - X chrx GR being one harassment inc humiliating or offensive (summary) JR - other docs you may have seen this is text of datix did you see AG - yes JR - XXX - DU complaint about HI 29th dec '23. Dated 23rd Jan. AG - yes JR - XXX - DU formal complaint see that"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948313380684489013) 2025-07-24 09:24:42 UTC 44K followers, 23.9K engagements "JB - google sync issue. Put my phone on airplane mode so couldn't sync - mimics an error can't sync. Created a note left phone off network for 3-4 hrs connected phone to network google keep notes sync'd. Examined. Version history reflected reconnection time"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948704076419489830) 2025-07-25 11:17:11 UTC 44K followers, 27.8K engagements ".with SP has been linked to behaviours of members of the public. There are factual inaccuracies that will be dealt with on Monday. The short point is that this is unusual conduct. It is irresponsible in the context of what we already know. It is for this reason we bring"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946230038010966379) 2025-07-18 15:26:14 UTC 43.1K followers, 19.7K engagements "NC - not for her but for the consequences for you of making up something she said KS - no absolutely not. NC - moving onto Xmas eve. JR - KS is becoming visibly distressed J - break KS - no thank you. NC - page XXX please. 2nd email is DU to you in small hours Xmas am"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948013511348539726) 2025-07-23 13:33:08 UTC 44K followers, 49.1K engagements "The Tribunal in Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr Upton is not expected to be in public session before 11:30 today Kate Searle A&E consultant expected to continue giving evidence then"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947946887740326028) 2025-07-23 09:08:23 UTC 44K followers, 64.4K engagements "KS SO we cld all support Beth if she felt unable to work or if she needed any support. JR Can u estimate how many colleagues XX at that time JR Can you read "Beth was approached" Why say this KS Beth perceived active confrontation was aggressive in manner"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947647199518544021) 2025-07-22 13:17:32 UTC 43.9K followers, 46.2K engagements "AG - MSF off for a long time Anne was to help me but reverted to MSF when I got back from hols J - off again AG - yes after summer J - when Sept to jan J - who stepped in AG - Ann JR - can look at spreadsheet XXX of MSF absences"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948376328077554016) 2025-07-24 13:34:50 UTC 44K followers, 19.1K engagements "J - says she doesn't know. we have prob gone as far as can go NC - caused her great emotion J - if people can't remember JR - you naming a person caused her anxiety seeing her upset calling it an outburst means people skills leave a lot to be desired"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948011744120480240) 2025-07-23 13:26:06 UTC 43.9K followers, 44.8K engagements "JR - after report what are hte options AG - can decide no further action secondly may be some internal learning through support/action plan third recommend conduct/capability hearing. JR - you were involved 29th feb after suspension and review of suspension. Involved in them"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948310199967658327) 2025-07-24 09:12:04 UTC 44K followers, 25.7K engagements "About more detail. Why is that AG - actually im unsure but I had another statement sent to me as well. Full statement NC - u said in chief u received in June. AG - I dont know own why - must be an oversight"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948340935772778699) 2025-07-24 11:14:12 UTC 44K followers, 24.8K engagements "IB Don't agree with your definition of bio sex. Much more complicated than that. Don't know anything c Beth's body. No one knows what their chromosomes are. NC What you understand by tw IB Someone ama b and living as a woman. NC So no one af ab had a sss cr"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945485101225201934) 2025-07-16 14:06:08 UTC 43.8K followers, 105.5K engagements "PD- no JR - this is PD's document CE - i don't PD - DU produced the screenshots I produced assistence CE - you provided writtten guidance for DU DU produced you gave PD - empty table CE - DU filled it in and returned to you PD - yes CE - so DU produced it"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948682325879128388) 2025-07-25 09:50:45 UTC 44K followers, 38K engagements "AH - MSF came back and my next involvement was around Nov JR - when did MSF return Look at her leave schedule not sure you've seen colour boxes are absence white is in work. White boxes are around April may june jul aug sept then yellow"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948384638797316434) 2025-07-24 14:07:51 UTC 44K followers, 22.2K engagements "JR: And homophobic comments CM: Just told she disapproved of ppl being gay - was told unhappy bcs her daughter gay - but I don't know at all"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947303752681111989) 2025-07-21 14:32:48 UTC 44K followers, 479.5K engagements "NC - are u saying u were making the decisions Noone higher telling u what to do AG - yes noone telling me what to do. My role was determine all evidence and then what I've found. These allegations came from me and id not discussed with leadership team"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948336649445785977) 2025-07-24 10:57:10 UTC 44K followers, 14.6K engagements "JR - should treat transsexual people as G they present. AG - yes JR - had info from IB last week about NHS policies from elsewhere which all say similar. Able to comment AG - all ive read says TG people should use facilities they've assigned themselves to. Not seen anything els"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948378957188895188) 2025-07-24 13:45:17 UTC 44K followers, 18.7K engagements "JR - lastly use of pronouns said NCs use of pronouns confusing. said asked to use any other reason. AG - DU is a TW and it's not for me to say or quesiton. JR - asked about man in CR right to object to DU in CR AG - DU is a TW able to use the CR while I understand and respec"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948379361708593167) 2025-07-24 13:46:53 UTC 44K followers, 20.5K engagements "JR - you said you'd come in to do interviews what was that AG - advanced practicioner post interview JR - role of investigating manager AG - be impartial establish facts get statements meet people and ask certain qu. try and assertain facts. Once complete compile report"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948309898594316678) 2025-07-24 09:10:52 UTC 44K followers, 26K engagements "KS rapist. She felt it was a reference to that. So why interp as offensive or harassing phrase in the Datix JR Whats harrassing or offensive about it KS To be compared as a T IDed M to being like a rapist is extremely extremely offensive"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947645831944749373) 2025-07-22 13:12:06 UTC 44K followers, 26.5K engagements "JR - meeting with michele more info on that AG - who to invite first when etc. JR - DU ED LC SP KS and EP - X people AG - yes sandie last. JR - XXX - 12th april email you to MSF and others about witness meetings X hr each. Same day letter to SP 336"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948312571301216751) 2025-07-24 09:21:29 UTC 44K followers, 25.6K engagements "Christmas Day.; NC - what exactly was unacceptable about it GM - a discriminatory allegation NC - what specifically is discriminatory GM - nurse asked the dr about his genes NC - is that the worse thing to your mind GM - not considering the Datix that's worst thing"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945805918991425991) 2025-07-17 11:20:57 UTC 43.4K followers, 48.9K engagements "This is part III of our afternoon coverage of Peggie v NHS Fife & Dr B Upton"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945853426648187209) 2025-07-17 14:29:43 UTC 43.3K followers, 68.8K engagements "KS I wldnt normally ask this but I wanted to make sure she was comfortable doing this as aware she's a T female. A short convo only and no instruction. NC new doc In yr evidence in chief u said Beth reads from before What's happened is u treated as self evident he was"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947667498771616125) 2025-07-22 14:38:12 UTC 44K followers, 64.8K engagements "NC - then explains it. J - cannot take evidence on agreed fact need a break. XX mins"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948018994557935652) 2025-07-23 13:54:55 UTC 44K followers, 54.7K engagements "NC - bc SP was guilty of heresy that DU is a man JR objects - offensive to do what NC is doing in particular to call DU a man. DU is not a man. Im concerned to the latitude given to NC to be so offensive in court. Disagreement about the objection"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948350958154473927) 2025-07-24 11:54:01 UTC 44K followers, 196.5K engagements "hasnt arisen freq. We'd have a disc re feelings and balance the risk to the individual and concerns by other indivs. Where they are in the process of transitioning whilst being under no oblig to reveal their medical infor. These are the factors we'd consider"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948738867852386806) 2025-07-25 13:35:26 UTC 44K followers, 25.4K engagements "NC - imagine not DU doesn't dress as a woman big masculine manly man no attempt to appear F lets call him Pete. If SP in CR in a bra and trousers and Pete walked in. Decent thing for Pete is to back out. AG - yes he's a man NC - if he shuts the door after walking in"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948372085601980680) 2025-07-24 13:17:58 UTC 44K followers, 30.2K engagements "AG - I dont share anything with anyone when doing an lx NC - the allegations were extremely dangerous for FU and KD amd should have been escalated at one if true AG - I cant talk about what ur describing just now. I would never discuss with anyone else"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948336610245783821) 2025-07-24 10:57:00 UTC 44K followers, 13.5K engagements "NC: 12/3 told SP re revoking - JR: told at meeting confirmed 12/3 NC: Yes thank you. Then we have the risk assessment *form* is dated missed"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947279857823404265) 2025-07-21 12:57:51 UTC 43.2K followers, 24K engagements "J - what do u mean by creed Its not in EA10 NC - I must be able to use words that arent in EA10 J - so its a gloss. Youre entitled to put gloss on Rs but I'm concerned about Rs counsel. It's involving someone advocating for their client"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948352243385700404) 2025-07-24 11:59:08 UTC 44K followers, 28.4K engagements "PD - I'm comfortable with it CE - this doc you did create response to JB report wrote summary. Cannot give explanation for dates issue but do not believe DU tried to mislead. You say you don't believe it but it is one explanation PD - it's a possibility but I didn't believe"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948682775898337443) 2025-07-25 09:52:33 UTC 44K followers, 29.7K engagements "J If discussing if someone being suspended and it's based around risk assess could you have discussion in absence of risk assessment in writing GM no J All risk assess carried out in writing GM yes"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945857198174642207) 2025-07-17 14:44:42 UTC 43K followers, 14K engagements "NC - changes AH - no had teams calls about it NC - sure it was all AG work AH - yes may have suggested alt wording for clarity as a lay person it's AG work NC - you say teams chat is that how your colleagues communicate a lot AH - usually phone or in person support AG more"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948387901307339049) 2025-07-24 14:20:49 UTC 44K followers, 23.6K engagements "JR - you ref a written statemetn - why AG - you are entitled to write a written statement I'd not had one a reminder JR - XXX - is that statement says should be considered with interview etc did she have help with statement AG - dont know JR - meeting didnt go ahead AG -no"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948320285821665712) 2025-07-24 09:52:08 UTC 44K followers, 18.8K engagements "NC - about that said I communicated was not willing work and KS would . JR - wasn't aware there was a transcript J - we've talked about this JR - not shared with both sides NC - will share JR - i need it now NC - requested and paid for by us no obligation"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948033582225928603) 2025-07-23 14:52:53 UTC 44K followers, 43K engagements "KS safety JR When did this discusssion take place KS I dont recall exactly JR Where KS In the charge nurse office in ED JR ANyone else there KS No. Just me and ED JR new page Email X Jan to you refers to the NMC. Can u explain anything about it KS I dont recall"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947651978630173150) 2025-07-22 13:36:31 UTC 43.9K followers, 21.1K engagements "compassion JR - what happened next after these X meetings IB - the only other involvement I had was in a short lived working group to consider if we should develop our own policy or wait for OfS policy JR - an email action list progressing a policy is that what you ref'd to"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945442225006989423) 2025-07-16 11:15:45 UTC 43.9K followers, 16.5K engagements "NC - incompetence or knowingly withhold KS - did not withold NC - asking trib to belive KS - asking trib to believe anything I did not find that email NC A few qu about Rahana the only witness other than DU or SP who can shed light on refusal to comm over patient who left"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948007215522267267) 2025-07-23 13:08:07 UTC 44K followers, 78.2K engagements "J - hang on JR - AG penultimate line - you would have it out. We know SP complained saying she didn't say that. She said that she said she'd say something not have it out. You agreed. your email sorry for misunderstanding go with your version condolences on bereavement"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948323479993938026) 2025-07-24 10:04:50 UTC 44K followers, 20.1K engagements "incident. GM - no I don't think so. NC - do you agree that if the only concern was the incident in the CR and not the patient care concerns there would be no suspension GM - the suspension was based on a risk assessment that was not undertaken by me"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945804250245644491) 2025-07-17 11:14:19 UTC 43.9K followers, 17.4K engagements "AG - was sent to me later by AH JR - XXX - AG - sorry must have been michele JR - when seen first time AG - 12th june JR - XXX - 16th April from Michele to you asking to discuss progressing as matter of urgency. WHy urgent and what stage ix at"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948313755705589863) 2025-07-24 09:26:11 UTC 44K followers, 23.7K engagements "NC but we don't see what that's a response to But if we go back it relates to previous email LC - I cant comment to that NC - you were copied in to that email from KS. Kate at this point with ED still in copy ED ED is taking lead in investigation. Everyone is now aware"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946217809349922997) 2025-07-18 14:37:39 UTC 43.3K followers, 19.8K engagements "JR Did this mtg with Miss Davidson did anything else come up CM Not really she said she was anti-trans. But again I'd never met her before. The incident was about DU and ED highlighted that SP had transphobic views due to an incident in a CR. I didnt have any other"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947241196310388946) 2025-07-21 10:24:13 UTC 43.9K followers, 39.7K engagements "KS - discussed police that's part of incident or crime policy JR - KS - embarrassing humiliating met those criteria JR - NHS staff must report all hate incidents KS - that's why we did datix and informed DU and SP managers JR - SP manager is"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947627493642416247) 2025-07-22 11:59:14 UTC 44K followers, 54.2K engagements "critical belief. GM - it might have been an expression of her core gender critical belief but it was not appropriate to be confrontational about it NC - there is no suggestion that she raised her voice or was aggressive GM - no NC - so it follows that the"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945814993745645917) 2025-07-17 11:57:00 UTC 43.9K followers, 26.4K engagements "CE - a good part of the reason this is taking place in Dundee not Edinburgh because in part because of threats made to SP legal team. At that time SP didn't describe that publically or attribute this to anyone because doing so would be entirely improper"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946228927711592775) 2025-07-18 15:21:50 UTC 43.1K followers, 27.7K engagements "I was in Jamie's office JR - where was Sandie LC don't know advised her we have had a serious allegation and putting on special leave that we would get clarity from HR. Not sure quite the words. What was her response"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946194312338821554) 2025-07-18 13:04:17 UTC 44K followers, 35.9K engagements "NC - was anyone reported for misgendering in this report AH - no JR - it is different using they them to she her and he him J - point is not she/her NC - email on 3rd jan JH to you among others her advice to ED on morning of 3rd jan. Trib looked at with others so will go fast"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948390260653650217) 2025-07-24 14:30:12 UTC 44K followers, 28.8K engagements "KS Had no reason to think it wasnt true so reported what I believed was true. JR U felt it was important for yr collegaues to know Why We are a close team and anything that threatens wellbeing of staff. And have to think of serice rota and make sure it is covered. If someone"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947648000290947103) 2025-07-22 13:20:43 UTC 43.3K followers, 56.1K engagements "NC More text added by Lottie Miles J Doyle seems to have sent pre-pop form and she has added in background details GM Have to ask LM but not what I would expect NC Would seem risk assessment been made after decision made re suspension GM re sss cr. part of your job to look after"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945837402611753208) 2025-07-17 13:26:03 UTC 43.1K followers, 9617 engagements "NC - You start that letter reads 'attend lx meeting and allegations'. Look back at letter u say was sent on 15th may AG : additional allegations yes J - wait for question NC - reads if that had been sent wouldn't u expect the next letter to say something apologetic"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948335447932862488) 2025-07-24 10:52:23 UTC 44K followers, 14.7K engagements "AG - no was just sent an email about it once appointed ix manager JR - 1324 - looking for 13th march anne hamilton sent statements sent to you. WIll find. It's right AH sent statements mid march AG - yes J - 1311 JR - thanks 10:05 email. AH sent statements to you"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948310667267600629) 2025-07-24 09:13:55 UTC 44K followers, 25.6K engagements "JR - *more* thoughts KS - reflects what I said about taking through proper channels J - we're done JR - two witnesses tomorrow Angela Glancy and Ann Hamilton. *RISE*"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948044526385312081) 2025-07-23 15:36:22 UTC 44K followers, 42K engagements "AG - from info hadn't really been a start to ix so carried on J - 1501 - message 1st sept from ED to MSF and you saying risk assessment to AG response to request for doc. MSF replies muddle of check list with risk assessment. She asked for it - any reply to that AG -don't know"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948375559626539277) 2025-07-24 13:31:47 UTC 44K followers, 18.9K engagements "NC: ref Here is Gillian Malone saying she is meeting service manager tomorrow asking her to meet SP - then you had meeting with GM CM: Yes NC: Met SP 7/3 you said you hadn't any particular docs to approach with open mind CM: Yes correct"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947276346289217640) 2025-07-21 12:43:54 UTC 43.2K followers, 21.2K engagements "NC - XXX - fwd to you 11th june first time you saw it. AH - yes NC - email 18th april from AG to KS you not cc'd AG agreeing to have KS as DU companion even when KS is a witness. Think saying have a chat with her and arrange is ok AH - we allow people to bring colleague"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948394619445645639) 2025-07-24 14:47:31 UTC 44K followers, 60K engagements "LC - I advise I had days off it would be ED and also HR (sound poor) JR what happened then LC - I was duty charge nurse that night so went on wards (can't hear) JR Were you alone when had conv with SP LC With Jamie. On speakerphone He was surpised with the matter of factness"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946195068286542143) 2025-07-18 13:07:17 UTC 43.3K followers, 25.6K engagements "confusion over chromasomes KS - not a geneticist - XXY XYY (cross talk) JR - asked about Pete with menacing behaviour. How would you describe DU behaviour KS - kind and compassionate never experienced anything but kind and compassion to patients and colleagues"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948042685412933934) 2025-07-23 15:29:03 UTC 44K followers, 48.9K engagements "Coverage of the first morning session of Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr B Upton will be in this thread. Scheduled to resume at XX am. There may be delays as it is the 1st hearing day with new remote access arrangements"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945391553763053947) 2025-07-16 07:54:24 UTC 44K followers, 180.7K engagements "LC - she said if you don't want me to come in tonight that is fine with me. JR - you were on the phone LC - she sounded very matter of fact JR - what was your interp LC - yes she had have a confront but she didn't see it as serious and didn't mind not coming in to work"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946194611187101818) 2025-07-18 13:05:28 UTC 44K followers, 56.2K engagements "JR - email from Norma Beveridge based on info no reason to reconsider suspension based on rumours circulating GM - that was not my recollection I recall we talked about whether the rumour should factor into the risk assessment JR - discussed on X July GM - discussed in earlier"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945788603423936567) 2025-07-17 10:12:08 UTC 43.9K followers, 9850 engagements "JR - deals with subject matter - the words 'hate crimes' and bullet points. Would you describe your understanding of what they say in relation of what you were told. LC - harassment JR - P722 Email Dr Searle to you and ED LC - that was sent after conv with Jamie"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946193522949787837) 2025-07-18 13:01:09 UTC 43.3K followers, 29.3K engagements "MC I'd heard her say it's not poss to change sex JR When met DU MC At induction teaching session as a F2 dr JR Re recruitment to ED MC Its a jr clinical fellow post. A non- clin training role who may want to pursue ED or get more experience. Is advertised as a XX month"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948735767318016377) 2025-07-25 13:23:07 UTC 44K followers, 85.1K engagements "Day X afternoon second session will continue here"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948004184009359750) 2025-07-23 12:56:04 UTC 44K followers, 127.9K engagements "NC - ment someone who won't pay lip service to GI belief system. Not novel or fanciful in addams v edin rape centre heresy hunt in those words were used. I have no time impuning JR professionalism converse not true. Clear from public part and to a greater degree in private"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948368905988190587) 2025-07-24 13:05:20 UTC 44K followers, 28.3K engagements "before. references checked - a min of X. I always check the GMC registaation in case have restrictions or issues we're not made aware. JR Disclosure Scot check MC They'll look for prev names or any issues that might have a bearing on seeing vulnerable adults and children"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948736581029794212) 2025-07-25 13:26:21 UTC 44K followers, 25.7K engagements "entitled to use the f cr. NC - so it was discriminatory to raise the issue at all GM - yes. J - time for a X minute break I think. Court rises"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945806878996414553) 2025-07-17 11:24:45 UTC 44K followers, 285.4K engagements "AG - urgency because believe org knew of legal case but mid april was the start of IX JR - your email XXX replying say EP hadn't been mentioned AG - wasn't till 17th JR - EP involved then AG - Emailed later that day to introduce self and as for any docs re incident"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948314137722765549) 2025-07-24 09:27:43 UTC 44K followers, 26.8K engagements "the html JR - 1666 is fig X 1667 is fig X - PD - no can't explain why not on screen downloaded from laptop data from the mobile JR*repeats page refs* PD - where talking about edit date we haven't got it can't explain JR - can you explain your sc shots start at 1643"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948678479664337228) 2025-07-25 09:35:28 UTC 44K followers, 26.7K engagements "J - yes JR - 1695 - your report. you say scsh5 was accessed in downloads X in doc/med/work and that implies not downloaded in meeting JB - was curious yes JR - indicate that trib beingm isleaded JB - was curious everything downloaded in meeting would have gone to downloads"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948714761702498778) 2025-07-25 11:59:39 UTC 44K followers, 21.5K engagements "Welcome back to Part X of the morning session on DAY X of the July hearing of Sandie Peggie v Fife Health Board and Dr Upton. Angela Glancy who led the investigation (ix) continues on the witness stand. Find previous reporting on our substack"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948340726548353398) 2025-07-24 11:13:22 UTC 44K followers, 85.1K engagements "HI - hate incident HR - Human Rights IX - investigation SX - suspension EA - Equality Act 2010 PC - protected characteristic; X under EA RA = risk assessment GM - Gillian Malone Director of Nursing NHS Fife NEW TODAY JB - Jim Borwick KJB computer forensics consultancy"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1947562879034486866) 2025-07-22 07:42:28 UTC 44K followers, 93K engagements "That she didn't see that bothered. JR Why special leave LC - it's to protect confidentiality also doesn't effect pay or sick leave JR - p 1253 email from MC to various people 5th January - SP been referred to NMC were you aware LC - no not aware thought investigation 1st"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946195559552868624) 2025-07-18 13:09:14 UTC 43.9K followers, 26.3K engagements "NC - have seeking out a witness to pending tribunal procedings KS - no business. NC - you were determined on DU behalf to round up support for his turn of events weren't you KS - I asked her to see if her story supported Beth NC - were you horrified when I mentioned her name"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1948013147169632476) 2025-07-23 13:31:41 UTC 44K followers, 53K engagements "We expect to resume at XXXX pm this afternoon in Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr Upton"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1946201120986067219) 2025-07-18 13:31:20 UTC 43.8K followers, 61K engagements "DU's presence. GM - I don't know that. NC - the process started because of SP complaining about DU in the CR GM - the process was started because of the Datix that was generated NC - it was SPs rejection of the harassment by DU that gave rise to the disc process"  [@tribunaltweets](/creator/x/tribunaltweets) on [X](/post/tweet/1945815862708949423) 2025-07-17 12:00:27 UTC 44K followers, 19K engagements
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"looks like X docs attached - SP and DU attached what are the outlook ones. AG - notes spoken of earlier J - what AG - check list B&H OH referal J - any handover from ED AG - no shifts didn't align prior to me being told of ix. Info from ED was given to me"
@tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 13:30:28 UTC 44K followers, 19K engagements
"It is now 10:35 am. The in person observers & press have not yet been admitted to the hearing rooms" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-16 09:37:12 UTC 43.9K followers, 41K engagements
"J - testimony our job to assess others testimony. NC - can deal in submissions with withdrawing agreement J - will have to look at whether and how to do that. NC - may be about exact interpretations agreed facts give a gloss don't say SP refered to rapist only sitn and" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 13:53:12 UTC 44K followers, 54.8K engagements
"KS It cld have been talking w SP NC Is it plausible u discussed it KS DU was v upset so wld have been approp to take further to ensure e'one is safe in kind and compassionate way NC Are u suggesting an informal discussion wld have been appropriate" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:52:43 UTC 44K followers, 50.8K engagements
"JR - look at terrain scsh one of the problem ones an odd note to manipulate aluminium mesh from halfords unless hobby is a secret odd to lie about this notes creation JB - go to scsh19 at bottom of weird incident note gives you part of note theres X dots those don't appear" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 11:53:49 UTC 44K followers, 25.2K engagements
"regards an email discussion group seemingly NC new doc U notice the subject line is PC incident. An email from you of XX Jan is a re email. Curren's email was on X Jan. So yrs is a reply to MC KS I dont agree" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:14:14 UTC 44K followers, 42.7K engagements
"J - didyou follow up on RA AG - no not invovled in susx J - didn't ask AG - just got a folder with the same info in J - when folder from ED AG - GM left in office and got between X - XX march '24 J - urgency in april an issue with illness of MSF any thought for another HR" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 13:33:07 UTC 44K followers, 19.4K engagements
"JB - yes JR - scsh 1659 - X scsh all 26th oct around 3am. Possible something happened at that date/time to impact all X JB - no can't have a version hist with prior edit date JR - scsh18 edit date 2nd may sc sh XX see edit dates all earlier than 26th oct. connundrum" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 11:49:24 UTC 44K followers, 26.4K engagements
"NC - can't help at all spring summer KS - it's been a long process its all blurred into one between dec and now. NC - this is a conv that caused you such anxiety for her might be burnt in memory JR - didn't say that and repetitive questioning unlikely to help" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 13:24:54 UTC 43.9K followers, 40.5K engagements
"JR Lawyer would be best person to address this. J Not always a lawyer NC to IB You are the lead on this. Is there anyone you can think of would be better placed to answer qs than you. IB re someone on granting access to tw to spaces. I would be on advice but not necessarily" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-16 13:40:04 UTC 43.4K followers, 19K engagements
"(mentions other emails senior support ED) ED email 3rd April Lottie this is a compromise Email from GM always a Band X but reasonable to have band X Mentions other emails Why was it felt that SP needed senior support Lc - important because of allegations. If she needed to talk" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:12:36 UTC 43.9K followers, 19.6K engagements
"AG - xmas incident JR - involvement with miss peggie AG - none really JR - what did you enclose with letter AG - all of notes except HCW notes as hadn't returned. JR - those sent on when AG - around 23rd August JR - meeting on 16th AG - yes" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:49:28 UTC 44K followers, 20.2K engagements
"J You could make that. Miss Cunningham NC Could I have a moment to discuss adjourn" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 13:10:32 UTC 44K followers, 25.4K engagements
"NC X why not say any colleague not involved AH - i wasn't involved policy allows it but less than ideal NC - aren't we seeing departure from normal practice for DU AH - no NC - XXX - email from AW to the ET and C legal reps giving explanations last bullet says planning not" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 14:49:35 UTC 44K followers, 25.6K engagements
"NC - AG asked this witness a commendably open question answer was flat contradiction of DU said. JR interrupts. withdraws. Repeat qu. her evidence flatly contradicts. KS - says can't recall the conv NC - but recalls there was a conv KS - doesn't say which X people present" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 13:21:13 UTC 44K followers, 49.6K engagements
"NC I suggest u conspired not to produce it Absolutely not. I'm a dr and trustworthy. NC Yr regulator wld be concerned about this if you hadnt KS we have to work w honesty and integrity" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:34:34 UTC 44K followers, 392.9K engagements
"the allegations so is plural NC - thank you yes. But again that tends to support the suggestion that you were relying on the seriousness of the Christmas Eve allegation to suspend. GM - I think it was all the incidents NC - did you see the detail GM - I don't recall" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:06:59 UTC 43.9K followers, 15.1K engagements
"AG - annual leave me and michele made getting meetings in. JR - person helping was michele sinclair farrow issues AG - unfortunately MSF unwell with her being off and leave it was hard to arrange. JR - to ix activity in may EP statement sent to you 24th april" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:33:41 UTC 44K followers, 23.1K engagements
"NC: SP asked that DU not use the female CR CM: I explained I couldn't guarantee that because not my decision - only that they wd not be working at the same time" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 13:20:26 UTC 44K followers, 20.8K engagements
"Our previous coverage and a full list of our abbreviations can be found on our Substack Please consider subscribing to our Substack to support our work" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 12:45:37 UTC 44K followers, 29.9K engagements
"NC - email AG - post NC - im suggesting it was never sent. U say that was sent AG - probably worth explaining. I sent my letters to EC admin and they pit in address a d they send letters out. I dont send them out personally NC - so no personal knowledge it was sent" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 10:50:43 UTC 44K followers, 16.3K engagements
"KS - EHRC one or J - that's my question there are lots KS - EHRC 2010 before parliament in 2011 says CR use by gender identity J - look beyond to the Act KS - confess not read google excerpts J - did you take notes 29th dec KS - bulleted email to beth after" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 15:14:09 UTC 44K followers, 34.2K engagements
"to change in GM If we are talking about biological sex then yes NC SS spaces for staff provision is conduct related to sex. That is obvious. JR objects J reasonable q to ask NC This is to do with sex GM Guidance re t member staff was to allow to use f cr so not re sex" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 13:33:42 UTC 44K followers, 11.1K engagements
"seems a bit harsh language does not acknowledge GC beliefs that they need to be taken into consideration JR - now on to changing facilities and showers please read and explain to the ET how that aligns to your understanding of the topic IB reading" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-16 10:39:28 UTC 44K followers, 28K engagements
"NC: Cd you tell tribunal begin with Kate Searle CM: Was in KS office - NC: Why were you there CM: To discuss shifts to get both staff back in workplace. KS expressed unhappiness re SP coming back said patient safety issues had been raised said racist to a doctor" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 12:50:04 UTC 43.3K followers, 26.3K engagements
"JR - obs are observatins KS - yes ecg blood pressure etc and documenting on chart. JR - 2nd incident KS - Beth called patient didn't respond to call patient presented with MH crisis I think concerned. Peggie was triage nurse asked if concern over leaving" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 11:48:15 UTC 44K followers, 28.1K engagements
"PD - be moved but not here JR - UCAT pip 30th august date. J - loss of audio 5-10 mins break. BREAK" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 10:13:21 UTC 44K followers, 38.5K engagements
"KS I asked IB and there's no other policy to dispute this NC IB told the tribunal that she doesnt know if she's F or M. Do u know yr F It's on my birth certificate But u know yr F KS That's the gender that was given to me at birth. The sex" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:43:46 UTC 44K followers, 102.9K engagements
"We begin. J - before we start - considered press release of XX jul addressed in submission. No order in realtion to it. Can sit late if needed. Assume you are Miss Harris. Which oath Takes oath. J - explains need for slow answers and speaking up" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 12:21:06 UTC 43.9K followers, 32.6K engagements
".but would have referred to Elspeth if she wanted that support. JR - no more questions J - a break now ten minutes" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:14:38 UTC 43.9K followers, 30K engagements
"re how she felt about DU CM Not happy w him but more to do with the event that happened. I was reassured she wldnt treat a T patient any differently than another. So felt her feelings were circumstantial to the sitn JR Read these pages reads re SP feeling sorry for TG and" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 10:45:57 UTC 43.3K followers, 58.4K engagements
"CM: My decision was to have both staff members back in the dept had had meeting with SP and done full risk assessment" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 12:48:30 UTC 43.3K followers, 20.4K engagements
"P: You said "on shift" CM: Yes we went into the wellness room - there were a few tears it was a difficult conversation but I was glad to be able to explain to DU in person" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 14:20:48 UTC 44K followers, 82.5K engagements
"apart. NC - so SP was suspended because she did not want DU in the cr. GM - she was suspended because of the Datix there are a number of allegations that must be investigated. NC - do you agree that patient care allegations were only raised as result of the Christmas Eve" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:13:07 UTC 43.9K followers, 16.9K engagements
"NC - Im suggesting the manner which case is put for the board that my recognition DU is a man is heretical is aligned with the oatds treatment of SP who was also treated as a heretic J - struggling to catch up. What do u mean by heresy NC - a required creed" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 11:58:13 UTC 44K followers, 36.2K engagements
"any tensions LH - no JR - aware of tensions with other staff over DU use of F CR LH - no JR - another doc 1253 email from MC to you and others 3rd para SP also referred to NMC Know anything that LH - no JR - another doc XXX GM sent to LC and you and ED and KT OfS" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 12:28:09 UTC 43.9K followers, 26.5K engagements
"The fourth day of the July hearing of Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr B Upton is due to start at 10am. We anticipate a discussion regarding NHS Fife's statement of 18.7.2025 before the next witness Charlotte Myles is called" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 08:00:26 UTC 44K followers, 181.3K engagements
"If there's a workforce issue someone more senior shld do this work before Beth came to me KS Beth has every right to use the facilities she wants under the GRA. NC What did u look at to satisfy yrself KS If u google it there's many refs for trans ppl and CR" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:41:16 UTC 44K followers, 86.7K engagements
"We will shortly be reporting from day X of the July hearing of Sandie Peggie v Fife Health Board and Dr Upton. The first session is due to start at 11.30am when Naomi Cunningham (NC) will continue her cross examination of Emergency Dept Consultant Dr Kate Searle (KS)" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 10:15:09 UTC 44K followers, 103.1K engagements
"AG - sandies beliefs there are other ways to raise it JR - how AG - other ways to raise it we have to respect others and use NHS values. JR - who report to AG - manager head of nursing other line managers common someone to call me and say AG can you talk this through w me" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 13:48:06 UTC 44K followers, 66.9K engagements
"Good morning. Day X morning session of the July hearing of Sandie Peggie v Fife Health Board and Dr Upton will be reported on this thread. The start time is 10am though there may be delays. We expect witnesses Angela Glancey (led investigation) + Anne Hamilton (HR advisor)" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 07:47:45 UTC 44K followers, 197.5K engagements
"JR - refers to your informing lauren LC - I said to kate I would speak to Lauren next time I saw her. (missed) JR - conv with Miss Peggie - two accounts. in notes When did this happen LC- with SP Sat XX Dec around 4pm" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:03:03 UTC 44K followers, 37.1K engagements
"the woman's changing room. GM - she was upset with DU being in the CR NC - is there nothing in that statement that indicates that she was upset that a man was in the woman's changing room GM - Beth "SP kept saying I was not a woman' NC - doesn't that mean that he's a man" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:54:28 UTC 44K followers, 15.4K engagements
"We resume. J Want to raise a point re timing. We have a problem with timing. We have to leave the building by 5pm so feel appropriate to stop at XXXX as has been a long and tiring week. Do we go part heard w this witness. JR - do you have a view" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 13:07:05 UTC 44K followers, 28.5K engagements
"a PC cld be a HC. And DU has a PC. JR Why do u think u were informed of the incident by KS MC As I'm an ED consultant. I'm one of the older consultants and ppl think I've experienced things others havent. Plus I'm dep clinical lead" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 13:44:51 UTC 44K followers, 62.4K engagements
"JR - the 's not once but twice inappropriate from expert independent. JB - I thought fair comment that's why they are there JR - not saying what you said the puncutation a level of zeal unusual for skilled witness in a court of law. JB - maybe should have been a" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 11:45:58 UTC 44K followers, 65.4K engagements
"JR Witness returns on Tues. Submission on Tues and mine on Weds J Possibly swears in witness I take evidence down by hand so please go slowly JR What's your full name. MC Been at Fife since March 2010. I'm deputy clinical lead in ED" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 13:18:02 UTC 44K followers, 25K engagements
"NC it's not exact LC - to give me prompts in future NC- eg of this in last para - she told me she had confronted the dr and advised she should not be in there because she is not female. But SP says he doesn't she LC - I don't recall. NC - SP didn't use word confront" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:45:23 UTC 43.2K followers, 18.8K engagements
"Panel You were asked re your role and you said you offered leadership with no direct reports. What are you responsible for. GM inc Governance complaints adverse events and provide leadership for directorship - patient care standards P You have no direct line management" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 14:34:22 UTC 43.3K followers, 15.9K engagements
"AG - yes JR - XXX - ix meeting with ED on 26th april AG - yes JR - XXX - ix iv with KS also 26th april. Amended version (bundle ref) explain process notes were sent to witnesses and amendments made AG - each meeting explain process they get notes from meeting and have X weeks" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:35:15 UTC 44K followers, 23.4K engagements
"isla Bryson sorry Isla bumba KS - JR - on the changing room 26th Aug 2023 incident did she say KS - not sure we talked on 29th dec might have been mentioned before and why I wrote 8th Dec. JR - you reviewed hate policy quick look then likely break fo rlunch" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 11:54:38 UTC 44K followers, 80.4K engagements
"NC: ref this is letter from you 28/3 to SP telling her risk assessment says return to work with diff shift pattern from DU shd be explored. You mention assemessment of risk - you made the assessment during 7/3 mtg and said propose to revoke end of that day CM Yes" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 12:45:29 UTC 43.3K followers, 20K engagements
"EP - what I understood to be the tone the tone was said in an aggressive and an unkind way. JR - Did DU refer to anything about demeanour EP - in the CR JR - yes EP - she said she felt cornered JR - what do you thinks he meant by that EP - I did not interpret it it was what" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 09:43:41 UTC 44K followers, 40.4K engagements
"and it would have been career ending if reported to NMC LC - can't comment on what NMC would do NC - email from KS to DU you're not copied have you seen this before. LC No NC do you want to read it now LC -Yes please" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:29:36 UTC 43.3K followers, 20.2K engagements
"CE - now the sync issue - 1700 - read what you say para X. JB - sc sh 18-20 log of actions attempt to show actions. I could not replicate creation date post dates edit date. not possible CE - explain JB - report explains google note version histories" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 11:12:56 UTC 44K followers, 27.9K engagements
"KS - speak to line manager if not content if not content with response escalate to their lead and other ways up the chain. J - who within Fife may have given approval to DU to use FCR KS - don't think it was ever discussed don't know but don't think discussed outwith dept" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 15:19:52 UTC 44K followers, 36.4K engagements
"NC - further version 1538 completed 4th Nov big gap not a lot happens final version 13th December. In that gap a request for further iv with ED. Your idea AH - just when we reviewed info in report AG wanted to ask some more qu NC - when versions sent between you tracking" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 14:19:37 UTC 44K followers, 25.4K engagements
"Detail amd he tells u of two more occasions including when SP withdrew from CR. It seems in this ix u still have seen complaint document. AG - yes NC - wasnt it obvious there was something u hadn't seen at this point AG - he Beth gave me an account at the time" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 11:17:24 UTC 44K followers, 31.1K engagements
"NC - without being seen. KS - I'm worried about including someone who doesn't want to be involved. it's not fair on her. JR - can we have a break J - tell us when ready to continue Court rises" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 13:10:14 UTC 43.9K followers, 66.2K engagements
"NC - shes addressing a number of ppl including u so would be an email in ur possession AG - thats about witnesses NC - now a few Qs about. sorry lost track of time J - might be best to have a break BREAK" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 11:00:55 UTC 44K followers, 25.5K engagements
"JR - March page 1356 this email you to LM XX March about shifts on graduated return why was this being sent to Lottie LC - that Sandie should be fully supported and allocated shifts for senior support. JR - p330 emails other bundle. 2nd and 3rd April. LM email to you and ED" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:11:00 UTC 43.9K followers, 20.3K engagements
"KS Like the GMC we have to act w/out discrim and with kindness and compassion at all times. I dont recall this nor know if a referral to NMC was made. JR new doc Response from MC to the consultants: what did u make of it" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 13:37:51 UTC 43.9K followers, 25.3K engagements
"JR - was was workforce policy AG - just general conduct JR - when did you get it AG - prob mid-march went on hols end march just before JR - first meeting with HR about ix AG - met AH JR - when AG - mid march then michele when she returned JR - what with AH" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:18:14 UTC 44K followers, 25.6K engagements
"LC - 2020 prior to promotion NC so this policy we heard from EP informal meetings between consultants and senior nurses this policy of letting upton using Cr was not communicated to those expect to undress in front a man LC - I wasn't at that meeting" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:09:44 UTC 43.9K followers, 31.5K engagements
"KS - could infer NC - not stated is it KS - no NC - you would have mentioned if you'd been told to shut it down - whole truth KS - I would have NC - you aren't subject ot any disciplinary proceedings because of that email KS - no NC - AG 18th ap to you - meeting invite" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 14:34:31 UTC 44K followers, 112.5K engagements
"was to tell her suspension was to be lifted GM Don't agree NC That decision to lift suspension was cos MG was objecting to suspension on no proper grounds. GM missed NC Friday X March you to MJ - further risk assessment supported returning to workplace on different" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 13:17:37 UTC 43.6K followers, 16.1K engagements
"AH - I was fitting in between times NC - 1260 - sorry XXX - we see email from MSF to various inc you says know AG not in today I'm not tomorrow CLO chasing with urgency - 16th april urgency sets in only because a claim raised. Only thing making urgency perceived" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 14:53:27 UTC 44K followers, 21.9K engagements
"JR Email from Doyle on XXXXX re Sensitive: CR. Who had u been in touch with MC With IB. It says Sept but was XX August. JR What convo did u have MC I contacted IB to ensure what we were doing was appropriate. As a trans indiv was entitled to use the bathroom of the gender" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 13:29:35 UTC 44K followers, 25.1K engagements
"standalone post. We usually have a lot of applicants JR Who interviewed MC Me and another colleague. We interviewed XX for XX posts. Pre-employment checks done by HR including NHS Scotland checks occ health to ensure ppl adeq protected. More staright forward if worked here" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 13:25:22 UTC 44K followers, 26K engagements
"JR - not pu tto the witness NC - will put it DU is obviously a man KS - no NC - under oath credibility important saying you woundn't know DU was a TW unless told KS - wouldn't have known what sex DU assigned at birth NC - he said just like person in prisons agreed" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 13:46:56 UTC 44K followers, 117.1K engagements
"MC There was nothing in the checks JR When aware of T status MC Before interview. We had a brief convo and asked if was aware was trans. I answered I had wondered. JR When did this happen MC Sometime during the recruitment process I cant remember exactly" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 13:27:43 UTC 44K followers, 33.2K engagements
"JR U said a concern re being on the same shifts. Why MC DU was v distressed and had been another diff interaction. SP works fixed night shifts which means the point of concern is begin/end of shift. Overlap between staff meant the day before and after wld be difficult for DU" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 13:59:37 UTC 44K followers, 20.9K engagements
"She relied on the code of practice. NC Try again. Women who believe bio sex is real and sometimes matters my see t id men as men not woman. They still see a man if that's what they think. GM yes NC So if you provide ss bio spaces for staff it's to do with SP" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 13:36:26 UTC 44K followers, 11.7K engagements
"J - Would u like time to think about this over lunch Converse about time to come back We will come back at 2pm. HEARING ADJOURNED FOR LUNCH Back at 2pm" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 12:00:04 UTC 44K followers, 46.1K engagements
"NC Probably need a break for court stenographers Short break" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-16 13:27:24 UTC 43.9K followers, 22.5K engagements
"suspension was because of her gender critical belief. GM - the suspension was because of the risk assessment that was done NC - so the entire suspension process was because of her GC belief JR - a multi part question NC - I thought we had agreed that SP was complaining about" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:58:21 UTC 43.9K followers, 16.9K engagements
"NC I'm suggesting we dont see this subject line v often. We see catch up and HI but isnt used commonly. we see an email chain at XXX to the same group that MC was emailing on X Jan that we've looked at. But not copied to MC's email at the bottom" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:24:33 UTC 44K followers, 40.1K engagements
"P1 - CM conv can you tell us any conv you had with her then KS - i remember her in dept but don't recall any conv. J - thanks is there a procedure on how you do datix reports KS - yes J - do you remember what it says KS - use for all sorts of incidents give a timeline" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 15:10:42 UTC 44K followers, 32.6K engagements
"JR Look at the follow up Datix report. Have u seen it b4 MC Not recently JR U have received this at Xmas XX Incident re PC of Nurse A and Dr B. Did u know who these ppl were when u received the Datix MC long pause JR It's dated XX Dec MC Um. Yes I think I was at that" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 13:37:13 UTC 44K followers, 23.4K engagements
"NC - sure JR will take you to it if it exists. NC - XXX - email from AW XX th june. not cc'd to you but fwd'd MJ forwards to you. AH - yes NC - AW's email including doc formal complaint with incident concerns from DU - resus missing patient AH - yes" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 14:45:35 UTC 44K followers, 22.3K engagements
"with AG "if Beth walks in Sandie walks out if I witnessed this I would deal with it. LC -if it had been brought to me as direct info yes I would deal with it. NC p534 the first four lines one occasion resus patient" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:24:56 UTC 43K followers, 21.2K engagements
"NC - was flatly factual about language. Beyond doubt JR is exorcised no doubt on instruction of client on the qu of language. nothing arguably pejorative about exorcised not did I accuse her of heresy. One aspect of C case is SP has been treated as heretic deserving of punish" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 13:03:54 UTC 44K followers, 26.6K engagements
"gender chromosomes is not correct. There are others than XX and XY that affect ppls sex characteristics. ALso mosaicism - where s'one has chromosomes are mixed J instructs quiet MC Mosaicism is v rare and when have X diff sets of chrormosomes. Most well known is post bone" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 14:03:56 UTC 44K followers, 100.7K engagements
"AG - sandie would be right to say its the no its the F CR NC - 1237 - 2nd jan GM email to a group not you attaching datix 1236 see GM forwards to Norma Beverage NB AG - director of nursing C - you knew that role AG yes NC quite important role AG - yes NC - email says" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 13:19:36 UTC 44K followers, 24.3K engagements
"JR - email you mentioned about return to work AG - the one from GM just says FYI as investigating manager JR - involvement in return to work AG - no JR - XXX 10th April from CM to you re ix asking for electronic notes what were they. Middle para refs notes" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:15:29 UTC 44K followers, 25.6K engagements
"P1 - first was susx check list what is that AG - check list of have you done everything meant to do contacts representative etc P1 - diff from risk assessment AG - yes P - did you see risk assessment AG- just chekc list and record. P1 - around same time AH gave you names" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 13:24:06 UTC 44K followers, 22K engagements
"NC: Spiteful tittle-tattle then CM: As I say I made sure to stick solely to brief to review suspension. NC: And what did Louise Curran say CM: Again same rumours - something about Donald Trump. But. Nothing harmful to the board. Ppl entitled to private views" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 14:01:23 UTC 43.4K followers, 29.4K engagements
"KS I dint make an approach to Sp about her feeling uncomfortable NC U saw her removing herself from CR as bad behaviour KS Beth felt uncomfirtable that SP didnt want to engage.she was the only one behaving like this NC That's not the Q" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:59:16 UTC 44K followers, 157.8K engagements
"CM: It's a workplace where things are discussed all the time not always correctly so wanted to explain to DU that it was my decision here wanted to support both DU & SP. DU took it quite well better than I'd expected" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 14:20:07 UTC 44K followers, 27.7K engagements
"JB - elsewhere J - ask re dots JB - I can't recreate what's shown might be correct but the version history to the right i just can't repeat what is on the screen JR - google gives notes in create order JB - yes JR - framework for Ucat aip note if that was created the thing" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 11:55:32 UTC 44K followers, 22.6K engagements
"I can't remember the exact words but I remember feeling very sad it must have been so hurtful a thing to hear. I felt very sad when I heard that comment that was when Dr U was so upset. I had to comfort DU. Was crying so much. JR - what sort of crying can you describe" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 09:40:36 UTC 44K followers, 214.2K engagements
"CE - on this qu 1720 is relevant documentary record says not possible JR - PD - would you like to comment JR - suggests you didn't PD - was there all the time JR - back to 1659 rh column have you read Your views PD - google orders by time as default however can" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 10:12:14 UTC 44K followers, 23.2K engagements
"AG - to make any changes. KS changed some of hers JR - last thing in april meeting LC 26th april. AG - that's blank JR - AG - just my qu JR - did you meet her AG X yes JR - X may met DU yes AG - yes JR - 1420 - DU makes amendments as well. AG - yes" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:37:00 UTC 44K followers, 26.4K engagements
"Good morning. This is the fifth day of the July session of hearings in Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr B Upton. Due to start at 10am. Today we expect the first witness to be Kate Searle A&E consultant" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 07:29:50 UTC 44K followers, 307.3K engagements
"NC - if you had been cc'd or seen draft any concerns about it AH - no had a brief conv about replacing nothing concerning NC - any comparable email to SP why change of ix progress or why ED not involved AH - would have expected it from ED or GM" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 14:43:37 UTC 44K followers, 22.8K engagements
"J How long do u have to go NC I need another hr. I underestimated the time J Can u return tmrw KS KS Yes I can J Can u return at 11am tomorrow so u dont have a long wait We'll do well to complete SK before lunch. How long for the other witnesses JR Maggie Curra discuss" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 15:04:50 UTC 44K followers, 47.1K engagements
"J Actually can u return at XXXXX and we may need a late lunch tomorrow. JR I have a lot of Qs to ask - I have been saving these up. NC I may need more time w MC J We need to be careful about our timetble JR Lauren Harris was due to come tmrw but she may have to come another" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 15:06:49 UTC 44K followers, 46.9K engagements
"AG - gave names of peopl DU KS Sp - others JR - and next contact AG - hoped meeting notes had gone out but hadn't then 17th april with Michele also to include EP JR - why hadn't notes gone out AG - I was on leave HR didn't want to sign off without speaking to me" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:19:50 UTC 44K followers, 25.1K engagements
"We will hopefully be reporting from Day X of the July hearing of Sandie Peggie v Fife Health Board and Dr Upton. The first session was in private + ran into lunch. At 1.15pm when Naomi Cunningham (NC) will continue her cross of Emergency Dept Consultant Dr Kate Searle (KS)" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 11:53:29 UTC 44K followers, 165.1K engagements
"JR - staff member KS - asked if she recalled she was concerned about getting invoved in conv she said I am mixed race I am worrued about getting involved for my own safety. JR - what do you think she meant KS - this at this point meant this legal case press attention" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 11:50:44 UTC 44K followers, 38K engagements
"JR - comment on sc sh not taken during call PD - they were taken during call CE - hello I'm asking qu for SP pick up first on quandry version hist dates showing creation 26th Oct. you say no tech explanation PD -not that I'm aware of CE - 1645 - sc sh of file locations" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 09:43:13 UTC 44K followers, 26.2K engagements
"day J I'll let you sort out the timetable between you. See you tomorrow SESSION ENDS" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 15:08:29 UTC 44K followers, 69.6K engagements
"JR - what did you say about how SP address hte meeting AG - what do you mean union rep Statement JR - you describe logistics and you are entitled to trade union rep. what did you advise AG - could have RCN rep had brought to meeting 9th may could bring colleague instead" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:50:45 UTC 44K followers, 20.8K engagements
"GM - it was the manner in which she went about raising the issue Beth felt intimidated and harassed. NC - I'm about to go on to another area of questioning and conscious of the time. J - lets break for lunch back at X pm. Court rises" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 12:02:23 UTC 44K followers, 82.8K engagements
"Otherwise e'one wld be in the to box. NC They're the same ppl except DU was added in in Jan. You can understand why ppl wldnt have wanted this email see the light of day KS I cant belive we wld have held back emails NC The X Jan email is seriously embarrasing to the Rs" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:28:57 UTC 44K followers, 85.4K engagements
"NC - DU if so - it's the same KS - no NC - will address in submissions NC - all SP has done is the equivilent of saying go away Pete KS - told the approach was not like that NC - only continues because DU didn't leave stood ground conv continued. KS - no DU says tried to end it" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 13:44:32 UTC 43.9K followers, 58.4K engagements
".after making these general comments we will leave this until Monday. some discussion about people's availability Anything else nothing J we will convene on Monday" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 15:33:53 UTC 43.3K followers, 34.7K engagements
"MC Whenever a medical staff member is struggling w an experience we'll share it w the team. We work shifts so is highly varied which juniors we work with. We need to be aware if any jr is struggling to ensure it doesnt impact their ability to work and check they're ok" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 13:40:25 UTC 44K followers, 27.9K engagements
"That goalposts had moved AG - the first was described and explained on 12th April and then letter sent to SP 15th may theres X further allegations. Letter 19th says all allegations prev discussed NC - but nothing about 'further to my letter of q5th may' AG -unsure why id do that" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 10:53:40 UTC 44K followers, 14.9K engagements
"AG - DU was unsure of dates but J - pause please AG - incidents discussed 9th may with DU then had first meeting with SF and SP discussed what it was about. MSF and I had further discussion after and thought important to add" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:45:00 UTC 44K followers, 20.4K engagements
"JR - Jim Borwick XX mins chief XX cross then Maggie Curra. RISE" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 15:20:54 UTC 44K followers, 40.2K engagements
"EP - DU feeling quite threatened at that point I thought it was the right thing to do to be by side in case something happened however unlikely I was the consultant it was my job to look after people JR - how long did convo last EP - about XX minutes" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 09:48:13 UTC 43.9K followers, 112.5K engagements
"info what were you looking for KS - hoping trust policy supporting TG staff in workplace. JR - her reply describe reponse. KS - no trust policy for staff or patients either I think hope to have one. JR - why send that email 8th Dec KS - don't recall JR - Xmas 2023" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 11:35:29 UTC 43.4K followers, 30.1K engagements
"JR - further update 28th feb GM going to consider AH - yes she called next day to suggest AG JR - who told ED off the ix AH - don't know actually JR - 1314 - ref in KS email 15th march AH says an independent person appointed ref to AG AH - yes JR - next involvement" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 14:06:43 UTC 44K followers, 22.6K engagements
"NC - do u feel confident that everything u produced has turned up in this bundle AG - yes Turns to another doc NC - reads do u know what that other email was AG - thats from MSF so dont know" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 10:59:30 UTC 44K followers, 14.7K engagements
"HI - hate incident HR - Human Rights IX - investigation SX - suspension GM - Gillian Malone Director of Nursing NHS Fife EA - Equality Act 2010 PC - protected characteristic; X under EA RA = risk assessment" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 08:00:31 UTC 43.3K followers, 56K engagements
"KS phoned distressed they wldnt need to explain JR Why imp for the X not to meet KS She'd met SP in the am of the shift trying to keep to her shifts and having bumped into her she was v upset feeling v threatened - just from seeing her. we had to ensure they didnt see each" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 13:22:12 UTC 43.9K followers, 33.8K engagements
"KS - should treat as GI present J - then however did you read KS - yes J - what did you think as whole KS - exclusion needs to be a proportionate means would need good reason to exclude DU from SS CR J - one qu is whether theres a distinction between publilc or work" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 15:17:18 UTC 44K followers, 30.8K engagements
"JR - additional docs bundle 1703 - won't have seen this is outcome of conduct hearing. Says whilst i find o conclusive evidence satisfied caused distress as a RN would expect for you to deescalate and suggest training which should be submitted to RNC for revalidation" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 15:33:50 UTC 44K followers, 33.9K engagements
"KS - foundation jobs also looked up EHRC statutory act as DU ID as F she has every right to use F CR JR - anything else KS - looked for Fife policy wasn't one. JR - in bundle later in Dec your email to IB you say first transgender dr v little info available asking for" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 11:34:17 UTC 43.4K followers, 29.7K engagements
"📰 A reminder that a continuing & comprehensive collection of press coverage on Sandie Peggie v Fife Health Board & Dr B Upton is available on our Substack. Weve gathered all the latest articles & statements in one place - and keep it updated as new stories emerge. Link below" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-20 13:04:46 UTC 44K followers, 48.6K engagements
"JR - can you describe what DU did PD - DU did production of sc sh i advised as filled log. Had full visual of what file path going to where mouse on screen. JR - 1643 - top says beth did this at request of AW and while watched by AW and PD PD - yes JR - read comments" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 10:10:33 UTC 44K followers, 24.9K engagements
"We're back J - KS ready KS - yes J - if need a break say NC - the mendion of health care assist seemed to upset you a great deal why KS - i spoke to her about being a witness didn't herself or her name to be involved in this case. NC - upset because wanted to protect" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 13:16:47 UTC 43.9K followers, 41.2K engagements
"I didnt recall it and was asked to look for it NC You were never asked until v recently to trawl for any material that wld fall into that order KS As part of this process I dont recall all emails. We were asked for emails that pertained. I dont recall being asked to trawl my" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:03:44 UTC 44K followers, 44K engagements
"NC - started till april due to leave and annual leave. is that an adequate excuse for not starting on an incident at Xmas eve AH - planning had to be started again because ix manager changed NC - reason given was leave AH - was a lot of leave NC - you and MSF gave advice" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 14:51:03 UTC 44K followers, 24K engagements
"LC - unacceptable tone mainly the threatening behaviour Jr - examples of harassing behaviours = types LC - yes gender reassignment gender identity failure to use requested pronouns Why is this relevant LC - because trans people come under protected charas" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 12:53:26 UTC 44K followers, 72.3K engagements
"KS I agree we shldnt have written these things in this group. I cant say whether it's been withheld. I dont think u can prove the emails were linked NC These emails werent produced for the 1st hearings were they KS It appears not NC There were X of you in this chain" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:31:44 UTC 44K followers, 339.4K engagements
"JR - EP invited to meeting can see 18th April AG - couldn't attend 26th JR - one to ED and one to KS - 1341 - LC XXX all sent 18th April AG - yes JR - also 18th michele emails you ED advises issues around SP leaving cubicles need to know issues and what was done" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:29:27 UTC 44K followers, 23.1K engagements
"G C belief - that sex matters GM don't understand q NC I'll leave it there. NC It was obvious re suspension/ d/x process that SP was unhappy. That she felt f cr being used by man intimidating and humiliating. GM Yes on Xmas eve NC ED doesn't doubt genuineness of SP feelings" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 13:37:59 UTC 44K followers, 11.7K engagements
"NC - language around T people suggested breech of art X rights to not use their choice of pronouns privacy JR - not privacy dignity NC - also suggested it's an interference with right to fair trial not to use DU pref pronouns. Summary of DU evidence" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 14:23:28 UTC 44K followers, 24.3K engagements
"NC - confused by them AG - I know you mean DU NC - no signs of distress AG - no but I've misgendered DU and it's not something I'd normally do. NC - trained yourself into the habit AG - it's what I've been asked to do NC - tricky to remember AG - no" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 13:14:12 UTC 44K followers, 36.2K engagements
"NC - alarming conv you would remember KS - yes it would be alarming in hindsight gathered incidents look like a trend NC - weren't reported because they didn't happen KS - disagree NC - bringing up with CM to change her mind about SP return to work KS - do not recall conv of" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 14:48:41 UTC 44K followers, 44.6K engagements
"nurses welfare GM y NC So if you thought that it was an affront to dignity etc of your nurses to let a t man use the cr it would up to you to speak up about that GM yes NC LM email to you re mtg with SP X March. LM records SP asks why DU couldn't be moved/ asked to change" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 13:27:45 UTC 43.7K followers, 9377 engagements
"AG - I agreed it was my wording. JR - why go with SP version AG - in notes she said say something didn't think it imp. One was my interpretation one what SP said. JR - IX notes I said if I was in the same position again I'd have to say something. What do you think" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 10:06:20 UTC 44K followers, 23K engagements
"NC - Looking back at DU email 17th April. His offer of more detail reads It sounds from that that he thinks there are X versions of his story in boards possession AG - cant answer that - i knew X statements NC - this is part of your ix with DU and u do accept his offer of more" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 11:15:41 UTC 44K followers, 26.4K engagements
"was wrong in the same way a mna in F prison is wrong. KS - no it was a well known case like saying DU is like a convicted rapist in a F prison NC - saying SP said isla bryson KS - I think we just agreed that is what she meant J - qu was did she use the words KS - no she didn't" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 14:14:03 UTC 44K followers, 57.2K engagements
"AG - first time I'd heard anything about patient care was due to meet DU in a couple of weeks. JR - about DU meeting. email from you to KS asked if she could be DU support you say not ideal I've had a chat and we will iv you first AG - would normally hear DU first" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:30:44 UTC 44K followers, 23.5K engagements
"NC one alt to SP was to change in toilet LC - yes NC youve seen her in there LC yes regularly NC - nurses need to change at work for reasons of hygiene LC - I didn't say change in the toilets. SP didn't ask what alternatives were" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:10:58 UTC 43.9K followers, 25.6K engagements
"JR - final letter 15th May you state avoid discussing why AG - standard template letter encourage all involved in ix's not to discuss other than with us or union rep for fairness. JR - XXX - you asked DU for more info on patient info she gives more info on that" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:46:17 UTC 44K followers, 19.9K engagements
"JR How were interests between SP and DU balanced MC pause An email chain among the ED consultant team. The mgmt process betwn drs and nurses is v separate which is my prev experience w/in the NHS. V little involvement in mgmt between the two" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 13:46:11 UTC 44K followers, 25.8K engagements
"It's a decision made at birth by the ppl delivering the baby I believe. I'm not an expert at it. NC So sex assigned at birth is whether u have a M or F body Yes NC Bio sex is very important lists re responses to drugs normal ranges for bld results KS Yes" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:44:42 UTC 44K followers, 598.1K engagements
"JB - dates it's not possible. CE - can you explain how these screenshots are poss JB - scsh XX for eg reports a version hist of. J - hang on JB - scsh20 porports note edited on CE - can I break it down note below it JB - starts alpha med the one where version hist shows" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 11:20:30 UTC 44K followers, 28.8K engagements
"Day X morning session X will continue here" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 10:16:28 UTC 44K followers, 114.7K engagements
"above was created first JB - not necessarily theres a tick top left shows a facility to pin a note to the top so the logic doesn't work it's put at top as priority JR - comment is this one was below something else JB - the scsh to the left appears to say the framework appear" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 11:56:59 UTC 44K followers, 21.9K engagements
"AG - all info has been discussed in previous letters NC - SP is adamant she never received May letter. I suggest because it wasn't sent bc the Board was in turmoil about whether or not there was sufficient in patient care allegations to pin on SP AG - disagree" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 10:54:42 UTC 44K followers, 15.5K engagements
"NC - so if I ask you to pick out the worst thing what is it GM - she keeps telling Beth that she finds him intimidating and keeps repeating that NC - so what was happening here was that SP was saying that sex matters in this situation you may want to pretend you're a woman" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:49:57 UTC 44K followers, 29.5K engagements
"HEARING RESUMES 12:11 NC - I'm going to ask a few Qs about ix now. So looking at email top of page from DU to u. U have contacted him about meeting 26th April and he asks if u want his full statement including Xmas eve incident. We see u talk about dates but dont answer" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 11:13:22 UTC 44K followers, 23.6K engagements
"JR - assist trib any emails between XX and 23rd may AH - no JR - asked a no of qu on the heresy issue. you answered one whether board punishing SP you said no. Others do you agree patient safety allegations untrue you can answer AH - no evidnece no independent evidence" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 15:17:48 UTC 44K followers, 22K engagements
"AG - but if KS was sitting in important we heard her evidence first. JR - now it's april incident was dec complaint dated 23rd Jan. WHy delay to interviews AG - as said only asked to take ix on 29th Feb can't say why delay before not involved. From when I took on" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:31:55 UTC 44K followers, 24.7K engagements
"21aug edit date slightly diff colour and creation on 26oct. Only way to make it look that way is the version hist is superimposed. Not a note ass with google keep CE - anything else on XX that looks like superimposition JB - yes version hist and not possible to have date with" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 11:21:53 UTC 44K followers, 49.2K engagements
"NC: Can see it was not your ability to say but what SP was being told was that any man cd use female CR if the wanted CM: I don't know what anyone more senior was saying. NC: But can you see that saying DrU wd still be using that is what SP is hearing" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 13:21:26 UTC 44K followers, 18.6K engagements
"We're tweeting the second afternoon session of Peggie v Fife NHS Board and Dr Upton. Naomi Cunningham will be cross examining ED consultant Kate Searle" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 13:53:05 UTC 44K followers, 174.8K engagements
"MC marrow transplant so carry both. Sex chromosomes in addit to XX (F)and XY can be XO where the other chromosome is blank. YO is not survivable. Also XXY and XYY. These are all recognised syndromes JR Are there names MC Xo is Turners. XYY is Klinefelters and XXY is" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 14:06:09 UTC 44K followers, 105.9K engagements
"NC - say no to DU AG - don't know NC - from start senior people involved knew SP needed to be punished for the offence of not agreeing to use of CR AG - no. P1 - at start of evidence taken to XXX asked about notes said it was paperwork mentioned things in it" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 13:22:50 UTC 44K followers, 22.8K engagements
"NC by this date reading out Were u aware of it KS An order for documents I.I'm not sure. I don't know NC An email between u and IB on XXX that was provided to the C's before the order was made. Did u provide it/ KS I've trawled all my emails but before this I wasnt" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:00:47 UTC 44K followers, 47.9K engagements
"KS - emailed to her J - electronic note as you went KS - no J - who is KS - GP trainee at the time J - 1123 please - back to qu of what you looked at. appears to be front page of stat code of pract X pages within that heading GI disc in SSspaces KS - yes" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 15:15:58 UTC 44K followers, 29.7K engagements
"GC /SR: gender critical or sex realists. Belief that biological sex is important immutable and different from gender identity GI Gender identity is a person's internal sense of their own gender which may or may not align with their birth sex" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 07:38:46 UTC 43.9K followers, 46K engagements
"I said I'd spoken w SP and wld be having a mtg. I wasnt surprised by req for MSP to attend as was used to this type of thing. JR The SX RA filled in by CM Me JR Who completed the summary I did. It was a summary of the actual meeting. JR Look at p1334" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 10:29:54 UTC 43.9K followers, 26.2K engagements
"CE - you accept its one explanation that DU is misleading PD - I don't believe CE - JB's report 1643 - scsh shows note in google account dialogue box too we see coloured box says hi elizabeth can edited info sit behind that PD - edited time stamp Yes that would be behind" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 09:54:33 UTC 44K followers, 26.6K engagements
"NC: So on 12/3 you wrote to SP saying you were revoking the suspension CM: Yes NC: You met SP 7/3 satisified yourself esp re risk you presumably didn't fill in the form on the spot CM: No - took shorthand notes and filled out later" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 12:56:33 UTC 43.2K followers, 22K engagements
"NC - a request made in September unfortunately you are muddling up the suspension checklist with the risk assessment. I need the original risk assessment. It doesn't seem that any risk assessment was actually done by ED at the time. GM - I can't recall" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:08:15 UTC 43.9K followers, 16.6K engagements
"Good morning. Day X morning session of the July hearing of Sandie Peggie v NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Upton will be reported on this thread. The start time is 10am. We expect witnesses Peter Donaldson (PD) and Jim Borwick (JB) both IT experts and Dr Maggie Currer (MC)" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 06:39:35 UTC 44K followers, 195.1K engagements
"NC - for reasons of hygiene it is unacceptable to change in toilet LC yes but people do that. there is a pause in proceedings" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:11:53 UTC 43.9K followers, 34.4K engagements
"CM: Wd really have to think about this - can't answer now. NC : Not fair to compromise XXX women to satisfy X man. CM: Dr U identifies as a woman that's how I think so that's not what it was" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 14:17:59 UTC 44K followers, 106.1K engagements
"KS - policy said intimidating or offensive in way you say that's enough. If everyone was kind and said things another say there was no need for it to come to this. NC - think briefly about another person not a man who thinks/wishes he was a woman - a man in mans clothes - Pete" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 13:40:39 UTC 44K followers, 180.7K engagements
"NC - so far u have let SP know u are only lxing Xmas eve incident AG - yes NC - notified SP of X allegations AG - no thats er . sorry what were u saying. NC - turn to XXX and u will see. That letter was never sent was it AG - I. Im sure the EC admin would have sent" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 10:49:24 UTC 44K followers, 16.2K engagements
"NC - knew all about everything the only person being told not to discuss was sandie. True LH - we were all told not to discuss only these emails NC - no more Qu J - nothing any reexam JR - no JR - X min break J - yes. BREAK" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 12:48:48 UTC 43.9K followers, 25.8K engagements
"AG - X chrx GR being one harassment inc humiliating or offensive (summary) JR - other docs you may have seen this is text of datix did you see AG - yes JR - XXX - DU complaint about HI 29th dec '23. Dated 23rd Jan. AG - yes JR - XXX - DU formal complaint see that" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:24:42 UTC 44K followers, 23.9K engagements
"JB - google sync issue. Put my phone on airplane mode so couldn't sync - mimics an error can't sync. Created a note left phone off network for 3-4 hrs connected phone to network google keep notes sync'd. Examined. Version history reflected reconnection time" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 11:17:11 UTC 44K followers, 27.8K engagements
".with SP has been linked to behaviours of members of the public. There are factual inaccuracies that will be dealt with on Monday. The short point is that this is unusual conduct. It is irresponsible in the context of what we already know. It is for this reason we bring" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 15:26:14 UTC 43.1K followers, 19.7K engagements
"NC - not for her but for the consequences for you of making up something she said KS - no absolutely not. NC - moving onto Xmas eve. JR - KS is becoming visibly distressed J - break KS - no thank you. NC - page XXX please. 2nd email is DU to you in small hours Xmas am" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 13:33:08 UTC 44K followers, 49.1K engagements
"The Tribunal in Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr Upton is not expected to be in public session before 11:30 today Kate Searle A&E consultant expected to continue giving evidence then" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 09:08:23 UTC 44K followers, 64.4K engagements
"KS SO we cld all support Beth if she felt unable to work or if she needed any support. JR Can u estimate how many colleagues XX at that time JR Can you read "Beth was approached" Why say this KS Beth perceived active confrontation was aggressive in manner" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 13:17:32 UTC 43.9K followers, 46.2K engagements
"AG - MSF off for a long time Anne was to help me but reverted to MSF when I got back from hols J - off again AG - yes after summer J - when Sept to jan J - who stepped in AG - Ann JR - can look at spreadsheet XXX of MSF absences" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 13:34:50 UTC 44K followers, 19.1K engagements
"J - says she doesn't know. we have prob gone as far as can go NC - caused her great emotion J - if people can't remember JR - you naming a person caused her anxiety seeing her upset calling it an outburst means people skills leave a lot to be desired" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 13:26:06 UTC 43.9K followers, 44.8K engagements
"JR - after report what are hte options AG - can decide no further action secondly may be some internal learning through support/action plan third recommend conduct/capability hearing. JR - you were involved 29th feb after suspension and review of suspension. Involved in them" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:12:04 UTC 44K followers, 25.7K engagements
"About more detail. Why is that AG - actually im unsure but I had another statement sent to me as well. Full statement NC - u said in chief u received in June. AG - I dont know own why - must be an oversight" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 11:14:12 UTC 44K followers, 24.8K engagements
"IB Don't agree with your definition of bio sex. Much more complicated than that. Don't know anything c Beth's body. No one knows what their chromosomes are. NC What you understand by tw IB Someone ama b and living as a woman. NC So no one af ab had a sss cr" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-16 14:06:08 UTC 43.8K followers, 105.5K engagements
"PD- no JR - this is PD's document CE - i don't PD - DU produced the screenshots I produced assistence CE - you provided writtten guidance for DU DU produced you gave PD - empty table CE - DU filled it in and returned to you PD - yes CE - so DU produced it" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 09:50:45 UTC 44K followers, 38K engagements
"AH - MSF came back and my next involvement was around Nov JR - when did MSF return Look at her leave schedule not sure you've seen colour boxes are absence white is in work. White boxes are around April may june jul aug sept then yellow" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 14:07:51 UTC 44K followers, 22.2K engagements
"JR: And homophobic comments CM: Just told she disapproved of ppl being gay - was told unhappy bcs her daughter gay - but I don't know at all" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 14:32:48 UTC 44K followers, 479.5K engagements
"NC - are u saying u were making the decisions Noone higher telling u what to do AG - yes noone telling me what to do. My role was determine all evidence and then what I've found. These allegations came from me and id not discussed with leadership team" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 10:57:10 UTC 44K followers, 14.6K engagements
"JR - should treat transsexual people as G they present. AG - yes JR - had info from IB last week about NHS policies from elsewhere which all say similar. Able to comment AG - all ive read says TG people should use facilities they've assigned themselves to. Not seen anything els" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 13:45:17 UTC 44K followers, 18.7K engagements
"JR - lastly use of pronouns said NCs use of pronouns confusing. said asked to use any other reason. AG - DU is a TW and it's not for me to say or quesiton. JR - asked about man in CR right to object to DU in CR AG - DU is a TW able to use the CR while I understand and respec" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 13:46:53 UTC 44K followers, 20.5K engagements
"JR - you said you'd come in to do interviews what was that AG - advanced practicioner post interview JR - role of investigating manager AG - be impartial establish facts get statements meet people and ask certain qu. try and assertain facts. Once complete compile report" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:10:52 UTC 44K followers, 26K engagements
"KS rapist. She felt it was a reference to that. So why interp as offensive or harassing phrase in the Datix JR Whats harrassing or offensive about it KS To be compared as a T IDed M to being like a rapist is extremely extremely offensive" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 13:12:06 UTC 44K followers, 26.5K engagements
"JR - meeting with michele more info on that AG - who to invite first when etc. JR - DU ED LC SP KS and EP - X people AG - yes sandie last. JR - XXX - 12th april email you to MSF and others about witness meetings X hr each. Same day letter to SP 336" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:21:29 UTC 44K followers, 25.6K engagements
"Christmas Day.; NC - what exactly was unacceptable about it GM - a discriminatory allegation NC - what specifically is discriminatory GM - nurse asked the dr about his genes NC - is that the worse thing to your mind GM - not considering the Datix that's worst thing" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:20:57 UTC 43.4K followers, 48.9K engagements
"This is part III of our afternoon coverage of Peggie v NHS Fife & Dr B Upton" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 14:29:43 UTC 43.3K followers, 68.8K engagements
"KS I wldnt normally ask this but I wanted to make sure she was comfortable doing this as aware she's a T female. A short convo only and no instruction. NC new doc In yr evidence in chief u said Beth reads from before What's happened is u treated as self evident he was" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 14:38:12 UTC 44K followers, 64.8K engagements
"NC - then explains it. J - cannot take evidence on agreed fact need a break. XX mins" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 13:54:55 UTC 44K followers, 54.7K engagements
"NC - bc SP was guilty of heresy that DU is a man JR objects - offensive to do what NC is doing in particular to call DU a man. DU is not a man. Im concerned to the latitude given to NC to be so offensive in court. Disagreement about the objection" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 11:54:01 UTC 44K followers, 196.5K engagements
"hasnt arisen freq. We'd have a disc re feelings and balance the risk to the individual and concerns by other indivs. Where they are in the process of transitioning whilst being under no oblig to reveal their medical infor. These are the factors we'd consider" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 13:35:26 UTC 44K followers, 25.4K engagements
"NC - imagine not DU doesn't dress as a woman big masculine manly man no attempt to appear F lets call him Pete. If SP in CR in a bra and trousers and Pete walked in. Decent thing for Pete is to back out. AG - yes he's a man NC - if he shuts the door after walking in" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 13:17:58 UTC 44K followers, 30.2K engagements
"AG - I dont share anything with anyone when doing an lx NC - the allegations were extremely dangerous for FU and KD amd should have been escalated at one if true AG - I cant talk about what ur describing just now. I would never discuss with anyone else" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 10:57:00 UTC 44K followers, 13.5K engagements
"NC: 12/3 told SP re revoking - JR: told at meeting confirmed 12/3 NC: Yes thank you. Then we have the risk assessment form is dated missed" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 12:57:51 UTC 43.2K followers, 24K engagements
"J - what do u mean by creed Its not in EA10 NC - I must be able to use words that arent in EA10 J - so its a gloss. Youre entitled to put gloss on Rs but I'm concerned about Rs counsel. It's involving someone advocating for their client" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 11:59:08 UTC 44K followers, 28.4K engagements
"PD - I'm comfortable with it CE - this doc you did create response to JB report wrote summary. Cannot give explanation for dates issue but do not believe DU tried to mislead. You say you don't believe it but it is one explanation PD - it's a possibility but I didn't believe" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 09:52:33 UTC 44K followers, 29.7K engagements
"J If discussing if someone being suspended and it's based around risk assess could you have discussion in absence of risk assessment in writing GM no J All risk assess carried out in writing GM yes" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 14:44:42 UTC 43K followers, 14K engagements
"NC - changes AH - no had teams calls about it NC - sure it was all AG work AH - yes may have suggested alt wording for clarity as a lay person it's AG work NC - you say teams chat is that how your colleagues communicate a lot AH - usually phone or in person support AG more" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 14:20:49 UTC 44K followers, 23.6K engagements
"JR - you ref a written statemetn - why AG - you are entitled to write a written statement I'd not had one a reminder JR - XXX - is that statement says should be considered with interview etc did she have help with statement AG - dont know JR - meeting didnt go ahead AG -no" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:52:08 UTC 44K followers, 18.8K engagements
"NC - about that said I communicated was not willing work and KS would . JR - wasn't aware there was a transcript J - we've talked about this JR - not shared with both sides NC - will share JR - i need it now NC - requested and paid for by us no obligation" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 14:52:53 UTC 44K followers, 43K engagements
"KS safety JR When did this discusssion take place KS I dont recall exactly JR Where KS In the charge nurse office in ED JR ANyone else there KS No. Just me and ED JR new page Email X Jan to you refers to the NMC. Can u explain anything about it KS I dont recall" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 13:36:31 UTC 43.9K followers, 21.1K engagements
"compassion JR - what happened next after these X meetings IB - the only other involvement I had was in a short lived working group to consider if we should develop our own policy or wait for OfS policy JR - an email action list progressing a policy is that what you ref'd to" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-16 11:15:45 UTC 43.9K followers, 16.5K engagements
"NC - incompetence or knowingly withhold KS - did not withold NC - asking trib to belive KS - asking trib to believe anything I did not find that email NC A few qu about Rahana the only witness other than DU or SP who can shed light on refusal to comm over patient who left" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 13:08:07 UTC 44K followers, 78.2K engagements
"J - hang on JR - AG penultimate line - you would have it out. We know SP complained saying she didn't say that. She said that she said she'd say something not have it out. You agreed. your email sorry for misunderstanding go with your version condolences on bereavement" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 10:04:50 UTC 44K followers, 20.1K engagements
"incident. GM - no I don't think so. NC - do you agree that if the only concern was the incident in the CR and not the patient care concerns there would be no suspension GM - the suspension was based on a risk assessment that was not undertaken by me" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:14:19 UTC 43.9K followers, 17.4K engagements
"AG - was sent to me later by AH JR - XXX - AG - sorry must have been michele JR - when seen first time AG - 12th june JR - XXX - 16th April from Michele to you asking to discuss progressing as matter of urgency. WHy urgent and what stage ix at" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:26:11 UTC 44K followers, 23.7K engagements
"NC but we don't see what that's a response to But if we go back it relates to previous email LC - I cant comment to that NC - you were copied in to that email from KS. Kate at this point with ED still in copy ED ED is taking lead in investigation. Everyone is now aware" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 14:37:39 UTC 43.3K followers, 19.8K engagements
"JR Did this mtg with Miss Davidson did anything else come up CM Not really she said she was anti-trans. But again I'd never met her before. The incident was about DU and ED highlighted that SP had transphobic views due to an incident in a CR. I didnt have any other" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 10:24:13 UTC 43.9K followers, 39.7K engagements
"KS - discussed police that's part of incident or crime policy JR - KS - embarrassing humiliating met those criteria JR - NHS staff must report all hate incidents KS - that's why we did datix and informed DU and SP managers JR - SP manager is" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 11:59:14 UTC 44K followers, 54.2K engagements
"critical belief. GM - it might have been an expression of her core gender critical belief but it was not appropriate to be confrontational about it NC - there is no suggestion that she raised her voice or was aggressive GM - no NC - so it follows that the" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:57:00 UTC 43.9K followers, 26.4K engagements
"CE - a good part of the reason this is taking place in Dundee not Edinburgh because in part because of threats made to SP legal team. At that time SP didn't describe that publically or attribute this to anyone because doing so would be entirely improper" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 15:21:50 UTC 43.1K followers, 27.7K engagements
"I was in Jamie's office JR - where was Sandie LC don't know advised her we have had a serious allegation and putting on special leave that we would get clarity from HR. Not sure quite the words. What was her response" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:04:17 UTC 44K followers, 35.9K engagements
"NC - was anyone reported for misgendering in this report AH - no JR - it is different using they them to she her and he him J - point is not she/her NC - email on 3rd jan JH to you among others her advice to ED on morning of 3rd jan. Trib looked at with others so will go fast" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 14:30:12 UTC 44K followers, 28.8K engagements
"KS Had no reason to think it wasnt true so reported what I believed was true. JR U felt it was important for yr collegaues to know Why We are a close team and anything that threatens wellbeing of staff. And have to think of serice rota and make sure it is covered. If someone" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 13:20:43 UTC 43.3K followers, 56.1K engagements
"NC More text added by Lottie Miles J Doyle seems to have sent pre-pop form and she has added in background details GM Have to ask LM but not what I would expect NC Would seem risk assessment been made after decision made re suspension GM re sss cr. part of your job to look after" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 13:26:03 UTC 43.1K followers, 9617 engagements
"NC - You start that letter reads 'attend lx meeting and allegations'. Look back at letter u say was sent on 15th may AG : additional allegations yes J - wait for question NC - reads if that had been sent wouldn't u expect the next letter to say something apologetic" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 10:52:23 UTC 44K followers, 14.7K engagements
"AG - no was just sent an email about it once appointed ix manager JR - 1324 - looking for 13th march anne hamilton sent statements sent to you. WIll find. It's right AH sent statements mid march AG - yes J - 1311 JR - thanks 10:05 email. AH sent statements to you" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:13:55 UTC 44K followers, 25.6K engagements
"JR - more thoughts KS - reflects what I said about taking through proper channels J - we're done JR - two witnesses tomorrow Angela Glancy and Ann Hamilton. RISE" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 15:36:22 UTC 44K followers, 42K engagements
"AG - from info hadn't really been a start to ix so carried on J - 1501 - message 1st sept from ED to MSF and you saying risk assessment to AG response to request for doc. MSF replies muddle of check list with risk assessment. She asked for it - any reply to that AG -don't know" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 13:31:47 UTC 44K followers, 18.9K engagements
"NC: ref Here is Gillian Malone saying she is meeting service manager tomorrow asking her to meet SP - then you had meeting with GM CM: Yes NC: Met SP 7/3 you said you hadn't any particular docs to approach with open mind CM: Yes correct" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-21 12:43:54 UTC 43.2K followers, 21.2K engagements
"NC - XXX - fwd to you 11th june first time you saw it. AH - yes NC - email 18th april from AG to KS you not cc'd AG agreeing to have KS as DU companion even when KS is a witness. Think saying have a chat with her and arrange is ok AH - we allow people to bring colleague" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 14:47:31 UTC 44K followers, 60K engagements
"LC - I advise I had days off it would be ED and also HR (sound poor) JR what happened then LC - I was duty charge nurse that night so went on wards (can't hear) JR Were you alone when had conv with SP LC With Jamie. On speakerphone He was surpised with the matter of factness" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:07:17 UTC 43.3K followers, 25.6K engagements
"confusion over chromasomes KS - not a geneticist - XXY XYY (cross talk) JR - asked about Pete with menacing behaviour. How would you describe DU behaviour KS - kind and compassionate never experienced anything but kind and compassion to patients and colleagues" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 15:29:03 UTC 44K followers, 48.9K engagements
"Coverage of the first morning session of Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr B Upton will be in this thread. Scheduled to resume at XX am. There may be delays as it is the 1st hearing day with new remote access arrangements" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-16 07:54:24 UTC 44K followers, 180.7K engagements
"LC - she said if you don't want me to come in tonight that is fine with me. JR - you were on the phone LC - she sounded very matter of fact JR - what was your interp LC - yes she had have a confront but she didn't see it as serious and didn't mind not coming in to work" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:05:28 UTC 44K followers, 56.2K engagements
"JR - email from Norma Beveridge based on info no reason to reconsider suspension based on rumours circulating GM - that was not my recollection I recall we talked about whether the rumour should factor into the risk assessment JR - discussed on X July GM - discussed in earlier" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 10:12:08 UTC 43.9K followers, 9850 engagements
"JR - deals with subject matter - the words 'hate crimes' and bullet points. Would you describe your understanding of what they say in relation of what you were told. LC - harassment JR - P722 Email Dr Searle to you and ED LC - that was sent after conv with Jamie" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:01:09 UTC 43.3K followers, 29.3K engagements
"MC I'd heard her say it's not poss to change sex JR When met DU MC At induction teaching session as a F2 dr JR Re recruitment to ED MC Its a jr clinical fellow post. A non- clin training role who may want to pursue ED or get more experience. Is advertised as a XX month" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 13:23:07 UTC 44K followers, 85.1K engagements
"Day X afternoon second session will continue here" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 12:56:04 UTC 44K followers, 127.9K engagements
"NC - ment someone who won't pay lip service to GI belief system. Not novel or fanciful in addams v edin rape centre heresy hunt in those words were used. I have no time impuning JR professionalism converse not true. Clear from public part and to a greater degree in private" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 13:05:20 UTC 44K followers, 28.3K engagements
"before. references checked - a min of X. I always check the GMC registaation in case have restrictions or issues we're not made aware. JR Disclosure Scot check MC They'll look for prev names or any issues that might have a bearing on seeing vulnerable adults and children" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 13:26:21 UTC 44K followers, 25.7K engagements
"entitled to use the f cr. NC - so it was discriminatory to raise the issue at all GM - yes. J - time for a X minute break I think. Court rises" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 11:24:45 UTC 44K followers, 285.4K engagements
"AG - urgency because believe org knew of legal case but mid april was the start of IX JR - your email XXX replying say EP hadn't been mentioned AG - wasn't till 17th JR - EP involved then AG - Emailed later that day to introduce self and as for any docs re incident" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 09:27:43 UTC 44K followers, 26.8K engagements
"the html JR - 1666 is fig X 1667 is fig X - PD - no can't explain why not on screen downloaded from laptop data from the mobile JRrepeats page refs PD - where talking about edit date we haven't got it can't explain JR - can you explain your sc shots start at 1643" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 09:35:28 UTC 44K followers, 26.7K engagements
"J - yes JR - 1695 - your report. you say scsh5 was accessed in downloads X in doc/med/work and that implies not downloaded in meeting JB - was curious yes JR - indicate that trib beingm isleaded JB - was curious everything downloaded in meeting would have gone to downloads" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-25 11:59:39 UTC 44K followers, 21.5K engagements
"Welcome back to Part X of the morning session on DAY X of the July hearing of Sandie Peggie v Fife Health Board and Dr Upton. Angela Glancy who led the investigation (ix) continues on the witness stand. Find previous reporting on our substack" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-24 11:13:22 UTC 44K followers, 85.1K engagements
"HI - hate incident HR - Human Rights IX - investigation SX - suspension EA - Equality Act 2010 PC - protected characteristic; X under EA RA = risk assessment GM - Gillian Malone Director of Nursing NHS Fife NEW TODAY JB - Jim Borwick KJB computer forensics consultancy" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-22 07:42:28 UTC 44K followers, 93K engagements
"That she didn't see that bothered. JR Why special leave LC - it's to protect confidentiality also doesn't effect pay or sick leave JR - p 1253 email from MC to various people 5th January - SP been referred to NMC were you aware LC - no not aware thought investigation 1st" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:09:14 UTC 43.9K followers, 26.3K engagements
"NC - have seeking out a witness to pending tribunal procedings KS - no business. NC - you were determined on DU behalf to round up support for his turn of events weren't you KS - I asked her to see if her story supported Beth NC - were you horrified when I mentioned her name" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-23 13:31:41 UTC 44K followers, 53K engagements
"We expect to resume at XXXX pm this afternoon in Peggie vs NHS Fife & Dr Upton" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-18 13:31:20 UTC 43.8K followers, 61K engagements
"DU's presence. GM - I don't know that. NC - the process started because of SP complaining about DU in the CR GM - the process was started because of the Datix that was generated NC - it was SPs rejection of the harassment by DU that gave rise to the disc process" @tribunaltweets on X 2025-07-17 12:00:27 UTC 44K followers, 19K engagements