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# ![@thefrankbraun Avatar](https://lunarcrush.com/gi/w:26/cr:twitter::758275142757867520.png) @thefrankbraun Frank Braun

Frank Braun posts on X about bitcoin, money, adoption, over the the most. They currently have XXXXX followers and XX posts still getting attention that total XXXXXXX engagements in the last XX hours.

### Engagements: XXXXXXX [#](/creator/twitter::758275142757867520/interactions)
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- X Month XXXXXXXXX +9,592%
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- X Year XXXXXXXXX +69,249%

### Mentions: XX [#](/creator/twitter::758275142757867520/posts_active)
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- X Month XXX +388%
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### Followers: XXXXX [#](/creator/twitter::758275142757867520/followers)
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### CreatorRank: XXXXXX [#](/creator/twitter::758275142757867520/influencer_rank)
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### Social Influence [#](/creator/twitter::758275142757867520/influence)
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**Social category influence**
[cryptocurrencies](/list/cryptocurrencies)  #351 [finance](/list/finance)  #2583 [currencies](/list/currencies)  XXXX% [countries](/list/countries)  XXXX% [technology brands](/list/technology-brands)  XXXX% [automotive brands](/list/automotive-brands)  XXXX% [social networks](/list/social-networks)  XXXX% [exchanges](/list/exchanges)  XXXX% [luxury brands](/list/luxury-brands)  XXXX% [fashion brands](/list/fashion-brands)  XXXX%

**Social topic influence**
[bitcoin](/topic/bitcoin) #146, [money](/topic/money) #910, [adoption](/topic/adoption) #35, [over the](/topic/over-the) 3.49%, [switzerland](/topic/switzerland) #82, [dystopia](/topic/dystopia) #4, [fiat](/topic/fiat) #321, [protocol](/topic/protocol) #1199, [market cap](/topic/market-cap) #258, [let me](/topic/let-me) #485

**Top accounts mentioned or mentioned by**
[@kucoincat](/creator/undefined) [@apotheon](/creator/undefined) [@notgrubles](/creator/undefined) [@bobleewaggeris](/creator/undefined) [@naval](/creator/undefined) [@0xmert](/creator/undefined) [@0xphilh](/creator/undefined) [@mikecustomtech](/creator/undefined) [@institutecrypto](/creator/undefined) [@zcash](/creator/undefined) [@veronikapolar](/creator/undefined) [@dpgspurs](/creator/undefined) [@beskimos](/creator/undefined) [@smart_feelinx](/creator/undefined) [@ricardoxmr](/creator/undefined) [@jurbed](/creator/undefined) [@zashiapp](/creator/undefined) [@ebfull](/creator/undefined) [@coryklippsten](/creator/undefined) [@nearprotocol](/creator/undefined)

**Top assets mentioned**
[Bitcoin (BTC)](/topic/bitcoin) [Ethereum (ETH)](/topic/ethereum)
### Top Social Posts [#](/creator/twitter::758275142757867520/posts)
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Top posts by engagements in the last XX hours

"If you are taking profits in this bull market what are you taking profits to To the USD which is in the middle of a sovereign debt crisis or to gold which is up 50%+ YoY Or to something else Serious question"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1976069700519088454) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-08T23:38Z 5380 followers, 3134 engagements


"Largest flash crash in crypto history and Zcash is up. Is this a fad"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1976960699512635830) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-11T10:38Z 5611 followers, 24K engagements


"My evening plans just got cancelled"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1977089984068010431) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-11T19:12Z 5561 followers, 1991 engagements


"Gold protects you from debasement. Bitcoin is digital gold. Zcash is fungible Bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1977314054797496468) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-12T10:03Z 5546 followers, 11.2K engagements


"Don't zleep on the trade of the decade"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1977503004367430128) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-12T22:33Z 5612 followers, 12.3K engagements


"Its great fun too"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1977682412466577886) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-13T10:26Z 5543 followers, 1996 engagements


"The stats Bitcoin Maxis don't want you to see"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1977840072868147385) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-13T20:53Z 5547 followers, 4242 engagements


"We were not wrong just early"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1977860331146764440) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-13T22:13Z 5547 followers, 3656 engagements


"@coryklippsten There is about 2.5x the value stored in shielded Zcash than in Bitcoin Lightning channels (in USD terms). Even though Bitcoin has about 546x the market cap of Zcash. I wouldn't call that a success story for Lightning"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1977862662970085807) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-13T22:23Z 5562 followers, 6094 engagements


"If you had the technically inferior product do you think bullying your existing and potential customers would be a viable marketing strategy"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1978083275017961837) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-14T12:59Z 5547 followers, 4016 engagements


"Interesting analysis"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1978124386507825212) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-14T15:43Z 5548 followers, 5097 engagements


"My portfolio is out of whack right curve took over"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1978129570382434307) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-14T16:03Z 5554 followers, 3730 engagements


"@apotheon On a technical level worse privacy. On a social level toxic community"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1978230878582018132) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-14T22:46Z 5614 followers, XXX engagements


"No generation gets rich by the trade that made the previous generation rich"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1978386844904513689) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-15T09:05Z 5635 followers, 14.6K engagements


"@EdPatisso @naval Zcash FTW"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1978500942942118156) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-15T16:39Z 5404 followers, XXX engagements


"Ledger indistinguishability. IYKYK"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1978609755888222581) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-15T23:51Z 5621 followers, 1370 engagements


"Whats $300T between friends"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1978827410926608599) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-16T14:16Z 5590 followers, XXX engagements


"@BarrySilbert @ssaintleger Less than X% means there is something really off with the world. X% to me seems the minimum price a private version of Bitcoin should have"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979315387700515066) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-17T22:35Z 5532 followers, 1573 engagements


"@ssaintleger Just like Bitcoin was one of a kind Zcash is one of a kind"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979485094957003049) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-18T09:49Z 5559 followers, XXX engagements


"@DPGSpurs @0xMert_ Please elaborate"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979942075169701939) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-19T16:05Z 5569 followers, XX engagements


"@bobleewaggeris @0xMert_ While the idea of the wheel hasnt changed the concrete instantiation has evolved significantly over the years. For example we went from wooden wheels to pneumatic tires. We also went from horse carts to automobiles"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979968757922480489) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-19T17:51Z 5629 followers, XX engagements


"When the taxi driver starts giving you stock tips its time to sell"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979124964201480343) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-17T09:58Z 5705 followers, 22.6K engagements


"Why do the techies typically not get rich in crypto Over the last XX years I have seen a lot of OGs get rich with Bitcoin. I wasn't one of them. I focused mainly on the problems: It's not scalable it's not private and there will be a lot of regulatory problems. Meanwhile the less technical OGs focused on the potential. They understood network effects they understood that it's a 10x technology and they developed a religious fervor that I simply wasn't able to develop. While I was looking for perfection they understood the concept of "good enough". When I sold my XXX BTC at a 6x gain (up from 5"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979546401554997659) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-18T13:53Z 5707 followers, 43.1K engagements


"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. If you have thought leaders like Naval and Balaji who are obviously way beyond FU money and long-term strong supporters of Bitcoin "suddenly shilling" Zcash you have two choices: - Take the intellectual easy exit and discard it as "they are shilling a pump and dump to get exit liquidity for their own bags". Make an analysis from first principles here: If you had serious FU money and very good reputation would you put that reputation on the line"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980220802269090153) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-20T10:33Z 5707 followers, 124.8K engagements


"Is there a word for being bipolar but with your net worth"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980274671346909456) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-20T14:07Z 5707 followers, XXX engagements


"I just added a link to my profile I like social experiments like this. Send me some encrypted and potentially anonymous feedback if you like. Of course always use authenticated channels to exchange addresses for real money (tm)"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979860194722202096) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-19T10:40Z 5707 followers, 22.3K engagements


"How will ZEC help you buy a house without KYC & AML My rant below got a lot of attention and the valid question came up how Zcash would actually help there. In the short term it mostly doesn't. In the long term it depends on us. Let me explain. I bought sold or am about to buy real estate in X different countries (Germany Ukraine UAE Switzerland). All of them require KYC to do the actual title transfer (somebody has to own the property and in this case it was a natural person that had to be KYC'ed). In some countries you could use a company as the owner but there will be UBO checks for the"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980400315095564445) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-20T22:26Z 5707 followers, 18.5K engagements


"The largest messenger in the world WhatsApp has over 3B monthly active users (MAUs). Signal has at least 70M MUAs. That's at least 2%. And you are telling me that Zcash at XXX% of the market cap of Bitcoin is not totally undervalued"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980064601103306901) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-20T00:12Z 5707 followers, 4171 engagements


"I found a new quant"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980079643135824077) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-20T01:12Z 5704 followers, 1737 engagements


"@SolJakey You might still end up regretting this for the people who bought weed for Bitcoin on Silk Road it was the most expensive weed ever 💀"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980413568496578931) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-20T23:19Z 5707 followers, 1128 engagements


"@0xMert_ @ika_xbt @1HowardWu I agree that DeFi should happen on other chains. However having the ability to bridge other crypto assets to Zcash in the form of ZSAs to make them really private seems to be very interesting. Of course you'd still have bridging risk but shielding some Bitcoin might be fun 😬"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980417897169317971) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-20T23:36Z 5707 followers, XXX engagements


"Gold Bitcoin and Zcash are all good monies. What do a lot of gold bugs Bitcoin maxis and (the soon to materialize) Zcash zealots miss These three monies are at different points on the adoption and risk curve. Doing an either/or analysis misses the point and is like comparing apples with oranges. Gold as money has been around for thousands of years and with the current bull run it has outperformed the S&P500 in the last XX years which is pretty remarkable. It simply looks good and has many properties which are desirable for money and after a while the network effects multiplied into gold"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1978217386638479759) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-14T21:52Z 5707 followers, 262.1K engagements


"@thefuzzstone What did I miss I thought buying real estate in Ukraine with cash would qualify me :) It was actually funny that I could get the best rate for the USD cash by bringing EUR cash to Ukraine and exchange them there"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980421277711233475) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-20T23:50Z 5707 followers, XXX engagements


"@InstituteCrypto @Zcash Here are the slides:"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1974518458143633624) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-04T16:54Z 5703 followers, 180.8K engagements


"Monero has X bit privacy: It uses a ring size of XX which means XX decoys + X real input per ring signature. In Zcash the anonymity set size in the Orchard pool is the number of all Orchard notes created so far"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1975939802060251572) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-08T15:02Z 5661 followers, 23.7K engagements


"Please support my application as a paid Zcash shill 🙏 Link below 👇"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1977086178429202807) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-11T18:57Z 5653 followers, 10.3K engagements


"If the launch dates of Bitcoin and Zcash were switched then nobody would use Bitcoin. h/t @arjunkhemani"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1977500516188909701) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-12T22:23Z 5676 followers, 21.7K engagements


"If everything is at all time highs it just means the U.S. Dollar is at all time lows"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1977856229360714088) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-13T21:57Z 5682 followers, 1112 engagements


"The B in Bitcoin stands for boomer. The Z in Zcash stands for zoomer. Which generation will determine the future of digital cash 😉"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1977866074268778965) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-13T22:36Z 5653 followers, 4365 engagements


"There are three hard monies. When the global fiat money system crumbles which bag do you want to hold Physical gold which you can hardly take across borders in larger quantities Bitcoin which is fully traceable Zcash unstoppable private money Chose wisely"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1978068424229027891) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-14T12:00Z 5703 followers, 264.1K engagements


"@in4crypto Bitcoin whales can be watched. Zcash whales remain hidden"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1978073814165537175) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-14T12:22Z 5693 followers, 1041 engagements


"Selling the horse first keeping the car and the rocket ship"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979142924089606481) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-17T11:10Z 5666 followers, 12.9K engagements


""Were obviously not going to sell here.""  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979188907691454614) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-17T14:13Z 5676 followers, 1927 engagements


"Good point free markets need privacy to function properly. I would add: Central planners want full transparency because it helps with the central planning"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979551527040864277) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-18T14:13Z 5696 followers, 4426 engagements


"you cant buy your privacy back"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979610876752826439) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-18T18:09Z 5703 followers, 7154 engagements


"The goal of FU money is not to say FU the goal is to not give af. But you dont need money for that it just helps. Few"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979652624212459691) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-18T20:55Z 5677 followers, 2167 engagements


"Thats the spirit"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979655078790496737) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-18T21:05Z 5703 followers, 9062 engagements


"Using Zcash as a revenge trade creates an institutional catch-22. When retail drives the price higher the institutions have two choices: X. "stay sidelined and leave all the profits to retail; or" X. "get regulatory clarity for privacy and be front-run by retail." Beautiful"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979694148698669150) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-18T23:40Z 5707 followers, 23.8K engagements


"@beskimos @0xMert_ For example by exchanging Zcash on a DEX to something like Bitcoin and then exchanging Bitcoin on a CEX to fiat"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979700502322667824) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-19T00:05Z 5666 followers, XXX engagements


"Zcash the protocol is not "not transparent by default" it's agnostic it's ultimately up to the user. The major wallets in the Zcash ecosystem are all moving to "shielded by default". The expotential growth of the shielded pool shows that users are adopting it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979837190310928594) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-19T09:09Z 5696 followers, 7509 engagements


"@0xMert_ Money is technology technology evolves. Bitcoin Maxis seem to think that Bitcoin is an exception. Im afraid this will not end well"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979930955897790710) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-19T15:21Z 5639 followers, 2134 engagements


"Zcash is for sovereign individuals"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1979958616590373171) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-19T17:11Z 5704 followers, 6002 engagements


"@operationdanish Some shameless self promotion: I also recommend all interviews @arjunkhemani did with important Zcash people (on YouTube)"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980053568301441254) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-19T23:28Z 5666 followers, 1171 engagements


"What excites me the most about the Zcash pump is not so much the price even though that's nice of course. It's also not the growth of the shielded pool even though that's awesome as well. It's that for the first time in over a decade I seem to sense some momentum for privacy"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980058814725714029) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-19T23:49Z 5707 followers, 6541 engagements


"I never shilled anything as hard as I'm shilling ZEC. Because there is literally no downside for me. We are already living in a financial dystopia it's just that most of you still think that if your BTC goes up enough you will be able to buy yourself out of the system. You won't. I have spent an entire work week in order to open a bank account so I can spend my orange coin on a house. Wet signed KYC and AML forms until I felt sick. Writing scripts to talk to blockchain explorers in order to prove source of funds. A couple of million won't get you out of that bullshit. You would need tens of"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980074984727806282) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-20T00:53Z 5707 followers, 149.4K engagements


"@sershokunin Tax obligations"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980078936391622696) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-20T01:09Z 5665 followers, XXX engagements


"I agree with @naval on all points here. But I'm also confident that @LynAldenContact is intellectually honest enough to at some point do an analysis of Zcash. But it's probably too early in the adoption curve of Zcash for that to happen now given her history on BTC and ETH"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980211720531660883) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-20T09:57Z 5707 followers, 53.3K engagements


"@bobleewaggeris Privacy at the base layer is a necessary but not sufficient condition to fix the financial dystopia"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980257926963929297) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-20T13:00Z 5707 followers, 1622 engagements


"X is unparalleled in its ability to connect you to the smartest minds on the planet without having to meet them in person or get an intro first. It also surfaces a seemingly endless stream of midwits. Engage wisely"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980265247647617081) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-20T13:30Z 5707 followers, 66.9K engagements


"It's not a smart investment idea to buy secondary gold Rolex watches for their gold content alone. We need at least a gold price of $10k/oz (more like $11k to $14k/oz) before the gold content of a Rolex flips todays secondary market prices"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980404880683725069) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-20T22:44Z 5707 followers, XXX engagements


"Do you really need $10M to retire Crypto Twitter needs to get a grip. Switzerland is one of the richest countries in the world they have a wealth tax and a pretty efficient administration. So we got some numbers for perspective (from 2021): - XX% of taxpayers have no wealth at all. - XX% have less than 50k CHF - XX% have less than 100k CHF - XX% have more than 500k CHF - X% have more than 1M CHF - less than X% have more than 5M CHF - less than XXX% have more than 10M CHF (1 CHF = XXXX USD) Link to stats here 👇"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980409830125797776) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-20T23:04Z 5704 followers, 1568 engagements


"@Zach_tradess Bitcoin maxis are afraid of the zippening"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980424404887826546) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-21T00:02Z 5707 followers, XXX engagements


"@0xPhilH Public pension payments in Switzerland are about 2000 CHF/month on average. To generate that from capital at X% withdrawal rate you would need $600k CHF"  
[X Link](https://x.com/thefrankbraun/status/1980554994362486821) [@thefrankbraun](/creator/x/thefrankbraun) 2025-10-21T08:41Z 5704 followers, XX engagements