#  @roasbeef Olaoluwa Osuntokun Olaoluwa Osuntokun posts on X about bitcoin, protocol, the first, network the most. They currently have [-------] followers and [---] posts still getting attention that total [------] engagements in the last [--] hours. ### Engagements: [------] [#](/creator/twitter::568914153/interactions)  - [--] Week [-------] +118% - [--] Month [-------] +1,308% - [--] Months [-------] +1,050% - [--] Year [-------] -59% ### Mentions: [--] [#](/creator/twitter::568914153/posts_active)  - [--] Week [--] +243% - [--] Month [--] +190% - [--] Months [--] +221% - [--] Year [--] -26% ### Followers: [-------] [#](/creator/twitter::568914153/followers)  - [--] Week [------] +0.04% - [--] Month [------] -0.06% - [--] Months [------] -0.03% - [--] Year [------] +0.73% ### CreatorRank: [---------] [#](/creator/twitter::568914153/influencer_rank)  ### Social Influence **Social category influence** [cryptocurrencies](/list/cryptocurrencies) [finance](/list/finance) [technology brands](/list/technology-brands) [stocks](/list/stocks) [exchanges](/list/exchanges) [travel destinations](/list/travel-destinations) [currencies](/list/currencies) [nfts](/list/nfts) [countries](/list/countries) **Social topic influence** [bitcoin](/topic/bitcoin), [protocol](/topic/protocol), [the first](/topic/the-first), [network](/topic/network), [ai](/topic/ai), [onchain](/topic/onchain), [in the](/topic/in-the), [native](/topic/native), [if you](/topic/if-you), [in a](/topic/in-a) **Top accounts mentioned or mentioned by** [@robinlinus](/creator/undefined) [@ajtowns](/creator/undefined) [@theinstagibbs](/creator/undefined) [@thebluematt](/creator/undefined) [@rustytwit](/creator/undefined) [@callebtc](/creator/undefined) [@matthewjablack](/creator/undefined) [@benthecarman](/creator/undefined) [@jbulkeley](/creator/undefined) [@lightcoin](/creator/undefined) [@n1ckler](/creator/undefined) [@0xorkun](/creator/undefined) [@obsdmd](/creator/undefined) [@bobmcelrath](/creator/undefined) [@giacomozucco](/creator/undefined) [@somsenruben](/creator/undefined) [@rot13maxi](/creator/undefined) [@reardencode](/creator/undefined) [@fedeintern](/creator/undefined) [@kepano](/creator/undefined) **Top assets mentioned** [Bitcoin (BTC)](/topic/bitcoin) [Coinbase Global Inc. (COIN)](/topic/coinbase) [eCash (XEC)](/topic/ecash) [Litecoin (LTC)](/topic/litecoin) ### Top Social Posts Top posts by engagements in the last [--] hours "the madlads at @StarkWareLtd have done it 😎 picking up from where @ZeroSync_ left off (SPV verification) the Shinigami project seeks to create STARK proofs capable of verifying Bitcoin Script _execution_ in the future you'll be able to verify a single recursive proof that proves valid* execution for the entire chain 🤯 Just validated the execution of the first Bitcoin transaction with Shinigami. https://t.co/PlfBZZ1mx1 https://t.co/sd9YoYGdvM Just validated the execution of the first Bitcoin transaction with Shinigami. https://t.co/PlfBZZ1mx1 https://t.co/sd9YoYGdvM" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1831794668209893553) 2024-09-05T20:40Z 42.1K followers, 59K engagements "@kepano embedded Claude Code directly into @obsdmd using the agent sdk got tired of switching back n forth between obsidian and my terminal https://github.com/Roasbeef/obsidian-claude-code https://github.com/Roasbeef/obsidian-claude-code" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/2007266916805816661) 2026-01-03T01:45Z 42.1K followers, 21.6K engagements "@esneider a way of sending signaling information between sender/recvr (getting hashes signing receipts etc) yes would need a protocol draft this has been my intended path as Sphinx is use in the setup phase for HORNET zooming out something like offers can be impl'd on top of HORNET" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1198025631650287617) 2019-11-22T23:49Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements "@esneider so it's about making a general layer for payment signaling/negotiation then building stuff like offers or w/e on top of that vs adding a new protocol tunneled message for each new idea" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1198025872277524480) 2019-11-22T23:50Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements "looks like all the hard work we put into optimizations for lnd v0.14.0 hasn't gone unnoticed ⚡🛠 #rc1soon #bitcoin" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1445890695315656717) 2021-10-06T23:16Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "7/ Analysis and Probing of Parallel Channels in the Lightning Network: describes approaching for multi-channel aware channel probing proposes countermeasures of diff forwarding strategies link-level payment splitting (cc @joostjgr @bitconner) n mo https://fc22.ifca.ai/preproceedings/132.pdf https://fc22.ifca.ai/preproceedings/132.pdf" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1487243737860227075) 2022-01-29T01:58Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements "8/ Resurrecting Address Clustering in Bitcoin: (yeh this is just fc [--] now for a bit) new techniques for Bitcoin address clustering/tracking.where dem Bitcoin snarks/starks at 🙈 https://fc22.ifca.ai/preproceedings/87.pdf https://fc22.ifca.ai/preproceedings/87.pdf" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1487244301495005185) 2022-01-29T02:00Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements "IN [----] THE BOTS PAY YOU ⚡🤖 today we're releasing a new L402 specification along side @LangChainAI powered tools that enable AI Agents to traverse L402 APIs (HTTP [---] pay-per call APIs over Lightning) and also directly hold+manage Bitcoin via @OpenAI function calls Announcing a new set of tools to build Lightning⚡and #bitcoin-powered AI products for a global audience. Using L402 a standard for API authentication with LN payments and @langchainAI a simplified AI app framework we are opening up #AI4All 🤖🌎 https://t.co/EQseanCurv Announcing a new set of tools to build Lightning⚡and" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1677031256134152192) 2023-07-06T19:06Z 42.1K followers, 389.4K engagements "to fill this gap we've also created a series of "tools" using the @OpenAI function call API and @LangChainAI that enables the agents to directly hold manage and spend BTC (on chain and via LN) check out this notebook to see an example in action: https://github.com/lightninglabs/LangChainBitcoin/blob/main/llm_bitcoin_tools.ipynb https://github.com/lightninglabs/LangChainBitcoin/blob/main/llm_bitcoin_tools.ipynb" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1677035680843833344) 2023-07-06T19:23Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements "L402 can also help to increase the accessibility of the latest n greatest AI models for the rest of the world 🌎 with LN creators can create applications that monetize from day one and are able to reach a global audience check out this demo from @kodylow built on @ChatbotUI" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1677037020156399616) 2023-07-06T19:29Z 42.1K followers, 82.9K engagements "#bitcoin the Internet's native currency will be the currency of choice for AI agents the L402 protocol will be their programmatic gateway to the world's paid APIs (and commerce w/ other agents): 🤖 to 🤖 💸 via⚡-🌐 💻 https://l402.tech/ https://lightning.engineering/posts/2023-07-05-l402-langchain/ Co-founder of the technology giant Palantir @JTLonsdale says There is one type of #bitcoin buyer that could be very important AI agents. AI will use crypto to coordinate https://t.co/pGMGUwaTGd https://l402.tech/ https://lightning.engineering/posts/2023-07-05-l402-langchain/ Co-founder of the" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1749860466137104810) 2024-01-23T18:23Z 42.1K followers, 42.7K engagements "@matthewjablack nothing LN specific here closing due to fee spikes is an implementation specific choice" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1826746092190663053) 2024-08-22T22:19Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@matthewjablack impls can/should smooth out fee updates to be less spiky tho once package relay is widely deployed impls won't need to try to guess future fee rates at all" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1826746797714538704) 2024-08-22T22:22Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "the moment we've all been waiting for.USDT is coming back to Bitcoin via Taproot Assets 🎉⛓🌎💸 w/ stablecoins on the Lightning Network the network evolves into an instant + low fee currency agnostic payments network all backed by the Bitcoin Backbone of the network Today we're announcing that Tether is coming to bitcoin and Lightning 💸⚡ With the security and decentralization of bitcoin and the speed and scalability of Lightning USDT will bring hundreds of millions of users and trillions in volume. It all comes back to bitcoin. https://t.co/Hp6qQCpAVl Today we're announcing that Tether is" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1885085788951765109) 2025-01-30T22:00Z 42.1K followers, 179.8K engagements "tapd v0.5.1 has just been released 🥕 🥕 this release includes a number of bug fixes optimizations and feature extensions including: * various improvements to the universe db cache * a new group key reveal version that supports hardware wallet minting () * UX improvements to SealBatch (accepts a PSBT) * various bug fixes to the RFQ and asset chan send/recv flows * improvements to protocol forwards/backwards compat via unknown odd TLV types * a new taprpc.RegisterTransfer RPC to make advanced flows like PSBT asset swap easier https://github.com/lightninglabs/taproot-assets/releases/tag/v0.5.1" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1889787673658937461) 2025-02-12T21:24Z 41.8K followers, [----] engagements "welp looks like the Razorbacks from @itsDanielSuarez's Daemon series are now a thing: https://daemon.fandom.com/wiki/Razorback Jumping self-balancing robotic bikes. https://t.co/RKtuKYQlQh https://daemon.fandom.com/wiki/Razorback Jumping self-balancing robotic bikes. https://t.co/RKtuKYQlQh" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1893080315922690078) 2025-02-21T23:28Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements "@BobMcElrath @nvk ok I think you're talking past me I don't think anything I've said in this thread is incorrect maybe re read portions of it the utxo set is a distinct data structure from blocks you don't delete from the block you delete from the kv mapping (rather never add it)" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1919874852850434283) 2025-05-06T22:00Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@BobMcElrath @nvk re op return (omit from utxo set) this is the default behavior by pretty much all impls no impls support retroactively pruning witness data but you can choose to not download it at all at which point you aren't during full verification" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1919875160737263924) 2025-05-06T22:01Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@ajtowns @realtbast it's been deployed in lnd for nearly [--] years now it was static for some time but then ppl wanted to change the scripts to be partially mini script compatible then splicing got further along so it was extended then then rbf coop close etc etc" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1983567714431242275) 2025-10-29T16:12Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@Louferlou @giacomozucco @ZeusLN @PhoenixWallet yes one uses [--] and the other [--] wide spread adoption of [--] is a somewhat hard switch over as there'll always be wallets that lag and maybe still only understand [--] my idea of blinded paths in [--] is to try to make that transition smoother" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1987974633963040858) 2025-11-10T20:04Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements "@Louferlou @giacomozucco @ZeusLN @PhoenixWallet we're working on the next leg as well but there's still quite a bit of incubation needed to ensure that _fetching_ invoices over an unreliable network gives the same UX as when you're presented directly w/ the invoice in the QR code" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1987976753344901140) 2025-11-10T20:12Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements "woah this is def **the** #Bitcoin product launch of the decade 👏 @CashApp 🫡 This feature will start to roll out tomorrow allowing you to pay from @CashApp over bitcoin rails using your USD balance - no bitcoin required. This dramatically opens up the aperture of who can pay with bitcoin to our entire monthly user base of 58m - normies included. https://t.co/8viY5t4JDh This feature will start to roll out tomorrow allowing you to pay from @CashApp over bitcoin rails using your USD balance - no bitcoin required. This dramatically opens up the aperture of who can pay with bitcoin to our entire" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1988795616621961328) 2025-11-13T02:26Z 42.1K followers, 10.9K engagements "would be dope if the PoS operator didn't need to manually select the Bitcoin option as adds friction (required training/knowledge etc etc) instead ideally the QR code that's already displayed embeds a compact LNURL endpoint so no invoice/addr waste available by default As a small business owner of a bake shop we cannot be more excited that @Square has made it so easy to integrate bitcoin payments. Thank you @jack 🙏. Lets go ⚡ https://t.co/SAqxTGQ9lT As a small business owner of a bake shop we cannot be more excited that @Square has made it so easy to integrate bitcoin payments. Thank you" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1988796338281316583) 2025-11-13T02:29Z 42.1K followers, 10.3K engagements "@w_s_bitcoin @Square @jack @milessuter why make them press anything at all flow should be exactly the same I just scan the QR code that's always there w/ no extra actions from the seller can get it via NFC too etc the point is that you don't always need to make the LN invoice you do it on demand" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1989052654971175321) 2025-11-13T19:28Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@TheBlueMatt better than all the info you leak out when using credit cards today 🤷 hard to truly protect consumers from IP leaks also IIUC I don't have a static IP I use from my mobile phone anyway but I totally get the sentiment but would be the best UX can deliver today" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1989057453317837089) 2025-11-13T19:47Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@TheBlueMatt the UX flow I was describing is one where the QR code that's already on the PoS is always displayed and there's no need for "lemmie pay in BTC" if it's always displayed and it's always a BOLT [--] invoice large % is never used hence the desire to fetch something on demand" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1989058139426378029) 2025-11-13T19:49Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@ConorOkus @OneSirMeow maybe but then most major cloud outages over the past [--] years had some DNS failure at their core: there's def levels to it most devs has run a trivial HTTP server before but never needed to hands on manage DNS exp varies ofc etc etc https://aws.amazon.com/message/101925/ https://aws.amazon.com/message/101925/" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1989059675489464825) 2025-11-13T19:55Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@n0m3ncl4tur3 @TheBlueMatt @ConorOkus @OneSirMeow imo BOLT [--] sorta fits that model re motivation and is more decentralized vs federated also I still know nothing about nostr lol by EOY lnd master will have native onion messaging integrated so a big unlock for more learnings re invoice fetching latency and retries etc" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1989072448621539525) 2025-11-13T20:46Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements "@BitMEXResearch @nic_carter devs are indeed talking+working on the problem just not focused as much on the fanfare of the ultimate political question of how to redistribute wealth under the perceived pressure of some doomsday threat this is what devs talking about it looks like: https://conduition.io/code/fast-slh-dsa/ https://conduition.io/code/fast-slh-dsa/" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1993796104455102906) 2025-11-26T21:36Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@BitMEXResearch @nic_carter my ref'd talk exploring some of the engineering tradeoffs of hash based sigs: there's a team doing a deep dive on the lattice based variants to replicate all the nice features we enjoy today like threshold sigs that aren't possible w/ just hash based https://drive.google.com/file/d/12UlzfGvG09IwvzWscL2FT8CoewGBWlGD/viewusp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/12UlzfGvG09IwvzWscL2FT8CoewGBWlGD/viewusp=sharing" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1993796614440595722) 2025-11-26T21:38Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@BitMEXResearch @nic_carter so at least on the Bitcoin eng side I'm not too worried ( fork politics aside for a moment.) myself the boring work is now to incrementally give holders access to the option of having a PQC tapleaf branch ofc there'll need to be coordination later to turn off key spend" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1993797142398554272) 2025-11-26T21:40Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "hashed-based PQ sigs (SLH-DSA) are an attractive choice for Bitcoin (sha256 go brrr) however their simplicity brings tradeoffs no: BIP-32 succinct threshold/multisignatures etc so no watch-only wallets less flexibility+security re custody can lattices (ML-DSA) do better🤔" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1998549686463152229) 2025-12-10T00:25Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements "unlike hash-based sigs lattice sigs have more of the algebraic structure needed for BIP-32 thanks to a recently published paper we now have a concrete ML-DSA based BIP32 scheme Towards Post-Quantum Bitcoin Blockchain using Dilithium Signature https://cic.iacr.org/p/2/3/3 https://cic.iacr.org/p/2/3/3" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1998549687775932471) 2025-12-10T00:25Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "hash based are ofc still attractive they can be smaller (both stateful and stateless) than comparable lattice based sigs ML-DSA-B is just swapping hash functions not all that novel the truth of the matter is that no sigs today (lattice or otherwise) as standardized provide the level of functionality (bare min really) to make secure Bitcoin wallets no schemes simultaneously support: bip-32 public derivation threshold sigs succinct multi signatures adapters sigs etc variants of ML-DSA that give BIP [--] functionality exist but the playing field is still immature: there's quite a lot of" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/2002126182096290246) 2025-12-19T21:17Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@saen_dev @obsdmd I have a local cron job to re-build the index just a few days old so can't speak much on the maintenance load I migrated over from Logseq and have around 1k notes/pages rn rebuilding the index [--] seconds" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/2007317544722702626) 2026-01-03T05:06Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements "been using Claude Code a ton over the past [--] months or so but this was the first time I messed w/ the Claude Agent SDK it's crazy powerful don't see why you need any other agent framework needed it in my fave lang so I made a Claude Go Agent SDK: https://github.com/Roasbeef/claude-agent-sdk-go @kepano embedded Claude Code directly into @obsdmd using the agent sdk https://t.co/fQ0ETgV1N9 got tired of switching back n forth between obsidian and my terminal https://github.com/Roasbeef/claude-agent-sdk-go @kepano embedded Claude Code directly into @obsdmd using the agent sdk" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/2008296265927323908) 2026-01-05T21:55Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements "claude-agent-sdk-go has near 100% feature parity w/ the official typescript version there's a ton of undocumented features in the Claude Code CLI that make the Agent SDK actually work I've documented much of this here: https://github.com/Roasbeef/claude-agent-sdk-go/blob/main/docs/cli-protocol.md https://github.com/Roasbeef/claude-agent-sdk-go/blob/main/docs/cli-protocol.md" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/2008296631645720725) 2026-01-05T21:56Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@JakeBlockchain @kepano @obsdmd do you see it in the settings UI here's what mine looks like you may need to restart the entire thing after set the env variable if that doesn't work try this maybe launchctl setenv CLAUDE_CODE_OAUTH_TOKEN "$(echo $CLAUDE_CODE_OAUTH_TOKEN)"" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/2008338828931825698) 2026-01-06T00:44Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@JakeBlockchain @kepano @obsdmd hmm not it shouldn't matter have you set the env variable in your bashrc/zshrc also assume you've done a had restart of Obsidian as well you also should be able to override the env variable in the UI too happy to continue here or an issue on the repo" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/2008342967548092705) 2026-01-06T01:00Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements "personally I never use "yolo" mode on any of this stuff I have OS native UI level notifications to let me know when they're blocked or need approval on something approval block is nice as then I can review some of what it's been doing to see if it's on teh right track or not if it is then maybe I'll auto approve changes for a period of time if not I tighten the leash and maybe force it back into plan mode https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2010838140895052079 https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2010838140895052079" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/2010838140895052079) 2026-01-12T22:15Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements "@Optiontradingod do you have access to the logs of your node is the transaction actually accepted into the mempool are you running any custom mempool policies" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/2013471992830193878) 2026-01-20T04:41Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements "ofc hash based sigs are viable as shown recently we can combine them with XMSS to make them *even* smaller and fall back to the full security mode when needed: FIPS [---] *is* a standard and even in the lattice realm there's a lot of active research ongoing to extend the schemes for things we take for granted w/ schnorr signatures BIP [---] discussion is on going there's active review it's just an output type lots more there w/ active initiatives https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/shrincs-324-byte-stateful-post-quantum-signatures-with-static-backups/2158" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/2018784601616101398) 2026-02-03T20:32Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@SomsenRuben @blk014 @EdanYago @lightcoin @SovrynBTC auctions also don't require necessarily global state see Pool as an example: ofc you don't necessarily get AMM type functionality but you can get proper price discovery and an execution venue https://lightning.engineering/pool/ https://lightning.engineering/pool/" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1575585605710360576) 2022-09-29T20:37Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements "waay back in [----] I designed the L402 protocol to solve authentication+payments on the web for machines 🤖 - flash forward to [----] and now the machines are intelligent kicking off a new era of personal AI agents with the latest advancements in AI the L402 protocol is more relevant than ever today we're releasing a suite of CLIs skills and MCP servers to enable agents to *securely* transact on the web ⚡ https://lightning.engineering/posts/2020-03-30-lsat/ AI agents can write code send emails and make phone calls. But they still can't transact. Today we're fixing that. Releasing a new set of" [X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/2021669541559119952) 2026-02-11T19:35Z 42.1K followers, 23.5K engagements "a wild nested musig2 implementation appears: 🤓🤯 https://github.com/btcsuite/btcd/pull/2481 A little something I've been working on for a while: https://t.co/lnE4f5hvwu https://github.com/btcsuite/btcd/pull/2481 A little something I've been working on for a while: https://t.co/lnE4f5hvwu" [X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/2022136603435753646) 2026-02-13T02:31Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements "@stevenroose3 also I remember in Austin I asked you: if connectors are even needed at all and why it can't just be adapter sigs or something -- seems you ran with that idea after all" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/2022062964392833355) 2026-02-12T21:39Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "needs another impl to start to make test vectors ofc but testing is fairly comprehensive working mainly off the paper's formal description w/o a proper spec/BIP yet one small thing I noticed is that the paper flips the order of the args to H(noncecoef *) vs BIP 327" [X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/2022137098938298443) 2026-02-13T02:33Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@NicolasDorier why so hyperbolic actual routing nodes will still run full nodes this about reaching a wider audience that runs on phones+laptops if you don't think light clients should be improved at all then ok don't get in the way of those that want to on-board more users to LN" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1086692123041132544) 2019-01-19T18:29Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements "@NicolasDorier if there're no p2p solutions for LN for this userbase then they'll use custodial wallets (as unfortunately they already are) is that a better route" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1086692338850643969) 2019-01-19T18:30Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements "waaayyy too excited launch Lightning Pool: A Non-Custodial Channel Lease Marketplace ⚡ check out my blog post where I do a deep dive into the architecture of the system: we're also dropping a white paper in addition to live code: https://lightning.engineering/lightning-pool-whitepaper.pdf https://lightning.engineering/posts/2020-11-02-pool-deep-dive/ https://lightning.engineering/lightning-pool-whitepaper.pdf https://lightning.engineering/posts/2020-11-02-pool-deep-dive/" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1323299990916063232) 2020-11-02T16:24Z 40.7K followers, [---] engagements "@BitcoinErrorLog Offers is an invoice negotiation protocol so it competes with stuff like ln-url which is pretty widely used AMP is the successor to keysend it supports sharded payments and a way to do static invoices they aren't at odds one is an e2e update the other is a network update" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1408115449200406533) 2021-06-24T17:30Z 40.6K followers, [--] engagements "is a programmable VPS platform where you can have any instance for [--] sats per hour. with⚡ developers no longer need to give away email credit card information or other sensitive information for API access just stream some sats n go 😎🏄🏾 #bitcoin http://bitclouds.sh I want more APIs like this: https://t.co/1jirtlmoHi drop some sats get a service done. http://bitclouds.sh I want more APIs like this: https://t.co/1jirtlmoHi drop some sats get a service done" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1429929463685386242) 2021-08-23T22:12Z 41.1K followers, [---] engagements "@_JustinMoon_ LDK or bitcoinj amarite 😏" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1514431126932058116) 2022-04-14T02:31Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements "on the protocol side this release includes support for zero conf + scid alias channels these can be enabled with two new flags: --protocol.option-scid-alias=true and --protocol.zero-conf=true" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1565044781801017344) 2022-08-31T18:32Z 41.1K followers, [--] engagements "@rusty_twit @callebtc @Snyke yeh I know aj has some schemes to do that tho imo symmetry is the way to go for anything where N [--] eltoo really shines for multi-party stuff (swapping utxos coin pools etc) the sequencing also naturally creates a 3rd party verifiable audit log as well" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1628579742034300928) 2023-02-23T02:17Z 41.2K followers, [---] engagements "@rusty_twit @callebtc @Snyke personally I'm more excited about the expansion in multi-party contract primitives eltoo introduces (not to mention just no_input itself) than the LN use case tho ofc that'll be nice to eventually have in some form for easier mobile node backups" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1628581238398418944) 2023-02-23T02:23Z 41.1K followers, [---] engagements "I think covenants will also allow us to deploy a practical version of interactive game CommitChains for Bitcoin: Merkleize All The Things is based on a similar concept" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1661236682451222528) 2023-05-24T05:04Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements "@Thinkingoutlaw @CryptoChrisG they can already do that w/o covenants just like they don't need KYC integration at the protocol level to enforce it and they have blacklists you're the one that makes the addr to recv to so you opt into a covenant or not covenants can't "infect" your other coins" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1661824109620387841) 2023-05-25T19:58Z 40K followers, [--] engagements "SF Bitcoin devs ecosystem on the cusp of a revival 🌉 I can feeeeeeeel it #CanYouFeelItMrKrabs" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1667329946719756290) 2023-06-10T00:36Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements "@rusty_twit @callebtc @4moonsettler imo the difference is if the covenant allows "partial application" or not CTV-esque covenants don't allow partial application as you must bind the entire transaction graph ahead of time covenants that permit taking part of their input from the stack allow partial application" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1678566610456674304) 2023-07-11T00:49Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@rusty_twit @callebtc @4moonsettler eg: the two of us can get together and make a coin flip contract with CTV we take in all our inputs (pay out key commitment used for flip) then make the tx graph and put the hash on the contract that required comms between you and I to exchange params then broadcast" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1678566868934885377) 2023-07-11T00:49Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@vinibarbosabr @lucasdcf @ambosstech correct services like Loop let a node operator manage their liquidity (be able to receive or send more) without closing/opening new channels capacity stays the same liquidity shifts or becomes available" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1691862485534683312) 2023-08-16T17:20Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements "@rusty_twit @jamesob @ajtowns so then you just gotta make the delays as large as you're comfortable with knowing that in the end you still need to "win" the auction to get into a block to get away from the optimistic stuff you gotta go w/ zkps so nothing gets in unless it can be proved to be valid" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1692727358225080539) 2023-08-19T02:37Z 40.6K followers, [----] engagements "@rusty_twit @jamesob @ajtowns I think covenants help tho as you can use them to guarantee future unfurling and then make decisions at each exit point w.r.t what should exit vs passed thru to the next state in the end only so many bytes per year can be added to the chain if flexy block size then diff" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1692727810769448975) 2023-08-19T02:38Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements "back at BPASE where the promise of #STARKs was first unveiled many moons ago. extremely impressed with the amount of theoretical and practical progress over the past few years" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1696324775994634552) 2023-08-29T00:51Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements "in the future splicing can be used to add/remove assets to/from a channel push payments can also be supported via a push of an "unsolicited quote"" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1699511286789488746) 2023-09-06T19:54Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "importantly these types of channels are 100% optional those that don't update to open/accept this new channel type continue to operate as normal potentially seeing additional transactional volume across the Bitcoin Backbone due to the new activity at the edges" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1699511526808539240) 2023-09-06T19:54Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements "back when I used to tweet some srs bangers" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1700373909504462931) 2023-09-09T05:01Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements "the mad lads at @ZeroSync_ have done it 🪄 instant light client sync they've created a batched/recursive/incremental STARK proof for Bitcoin's block headers: a single 1.4KB proof (independent of # of headers) to verify all headers PoW etc 🤯" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1700598667546419552) 2023-09-09T19:54Z 39.9K followers, 115.9K engagements "what if I told you.that LLM platform APIs don't need to rate limit for paying customers what if.you could simply pay them directly using HTTP [---] and a low cost decentralized open access payment network all 100% programmatic L402 is the 🔑:" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1709271500459745648) 2023-10-03T18:17Z 40K followers, 23.1K engagements "@peterktodd co-op tx signals RBF now so a new version of co-op close being designed by @rusty_twit can let ppl update fees at any time rn ppl are forced to CPFP if co-op close fee is too low rn we don't signal RBF on the protocol level as you can't safely RBF the funding tx w/o no_input" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1709979386458607874) 2023-10-05T17:10Z 40K followers, [---] engagements "@peterktodd a staging feature bit is used rn tho so we can change things based on interop testing feedback real world usage etc -- before we stamp the final feature bit" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1709980148207128884) 2023-10-05T17:13Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@super_testnet @rot13maxi @robin_linus @BobMcElrath I think you could just use a channel with the relevant funds then setting up a new ZKCP as an HTLC variant for cairo VM programs the program can also output something which is verified correct an off chain multisig covenant may be able to bind to that as state each iteration" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1711498638143483908) 2023-10-09T21:47Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@super_testnet @rot13maxi @robin_linus @BobMcElrath re commit in advance my thinking is you'd put the funds in a channel then each round you make new states that commit to that given round a side then proves "I did the next chess move correctly" or w/e you also want some inactivity penalty see that MPC w/ penalties paper" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1711504103795482800) 2023-10-09T22:09Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@super_testnet @rot13maxi @robin_linus @BobMcElrath starknet has frameworks for probable game engines: maybe useful for the above ideas" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1711504554808996285) 2023-10-09T22:10Z 40K followers, [---] engagements "@stonecoldpat0 @n1ckler I think if you can get rid of the pre-signing for the challenge/response then it becomes pretty flexible (still ignoring all the bandwidth over head) likely needs a covenant since then party A can commit to the circuit+result then anyone can go to challenge w/ matched bond" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1711941481559425263) 2023-10-11T03:07Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@stonecoldpat0 @n1ckler at that point very similar design paradigm to arbitrum/truebit still lots to be filled in tho" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1711941594591740275) 2023-10-11T03:07Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@edwargix @jamesob ppl rightfully love that we have multiple LN impls (even combative at times) has enabled innovation on LN both software+protocol yet for bitcoin nodes they lose that energy mo competition will make bitcoin stronger admittedly btcd doesn't have resources rn to compete srsly" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1712173109976191334) 2023-10-11T18:27Z 40K followers, [--] engagements "@lqdbtc @_benma_ @jamesob they are: just about everything Lightning Labs builds uses these libraries: rust didn't invent the concept of libraries lol go tooling is on par or better than cargo imo great profiling/testing/benchmarking tools" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1712174399334600740) 2023-10-11T18:32Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements "@theinstagibbs idk imo generally it's pretty fragile let's say the attacker goes directly to miner so you don't see it in "the" mempool you as the honest party then presumably have your tx broadcast more widely than the attacker so then the attacker's replacement isn't widely accepted" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1714442441439502347) 2023-10-18T00:45Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@theinstagibbs if yours is more widely broadcast and is also fee bumping based on the deadline if blocks are clearing at the target fee rate then very likely your tx gets confirmed unless the attacker is colluding w/ a pool that has a very high hash rate at that point censor justice txns" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1714442771845771627) 2023-10-18T00:46Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@MBerger47 anyone can run one of these servers can think of it as an index the maps on chain data like a txid or outpoint to off-chain data like a new asset being created or sent we'll have more guides out on this soon" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1714710016580874647) 2023-10-18T18:28Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "sooo excited to finally release the first version of taproot assets that supports Bitcoin's mainnet tapd v0.3.0-alpha works w/ the neutrino light client so users don't need to maintain [---] TB+ of data to be able to verify and interact with assets 😎 Announcing the first mainnet release of Taproot Assets 🥕 a protocol for assets on #bitcoin and Lightning. With this release developers can issue financial assets on-chain in a scalable manner. 💱 Today marks a new era of multi-asset bitcoin. 🌅 https://t.co/2cNvZSvv8v Announcing the first mainnet release of Taproot Assets 🥕 a protocol for assets" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1714711218961940772) 2023-10-18T18:33Z 40.6K followers, 69K engagements "under the hood all asset state transitions map down to a 1-in-1-out Bitcoin txn this means that existing sighash flags signing tooling etc can all be re-used here's an example of how to use SIGHASH_NONE for non-custodial non-interactive swaps: https://github.com/lightninglabs/taproot-assets/issues/577 https://github.com/lightninglabs/taproot-assets/issues/577" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1714712277977624617) 2023-10-18T18:37Z 40.6K followers, [----] engagements "taproot assets makes it very easy to #RunTheNumbers via its proof file format and also Universes which serves as distribution and archiving mechanisms for off-chain data users use a Universe to boostrap verification for new assets verifiers only need the Bitcoin block headers" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1714712610665623734) 2023-10-18T18:38Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "anyone can run a Universe server and also federate with other servers they use a tree-based bisection protocol to sync relevant data each server maintains a root hash of a tree of trees using sum trees for ez auditing here's our testnet server:" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1714713067366609078) 2023-10-18T18:40Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements "users can interact with Universe servers via gRPC or directly via REST: these APIs will serve as the basis for future explorers here's an example to look up the issuance tx+proof for an asset:" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1714713457181028720) 2023-10-18T18:42Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements "@TheBlueMatt @benediktbuenz also many chains these days don't use a p2p network for txn broadcast instead ppl submit directly to a centralized RPC API there're first class APIs to pay a miner for mining a block template so le class of attack is more direct I can pay miner to not mine rollup dispute" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1715855273838182899) 2023-10-21T22:19Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements "@robin_linus @renepickhardt @brqgoo what's the latest state of ark dev any PoC yet do we have better bounds on mechanics of the unroll mechanism amt of info that needs to be sent to the recvr even w/ the non-interactive version or capital requirements at scale ofc covenants design space is yuge beyond ark" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1726363125190983690) 2023-11-19T22:13Z 40K followers, [----] engagements "@robin_linus @rusty_twit @reardencode imo channels will always be amazing and hard to beat for low cost + low latency transfers truly payments as packets pure p2p and a great tool in the toolkit" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1726405209197293600) 2023-11-20T01:00Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@robin_linus @rusty_twit @reardencode in the end: mo solutions mo betta conditional transfers (atomic swaps) can always be used for interop" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1726444298705727583) 2023-11-20T03:36Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@SomsenRuben cool thx for confirming now circling back to CTV -- frequently see ppl say that: "CTV makes Ark non-interactive" based on the above protocol flow and it occurs to me that: in order to agree on the new UTXO even w/ CTV all the recipients in a round need exchange pubkey info" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1726774926575587558) 2023-11-21T01:29Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@SomsenRuben re the sender updating their claim that seems to introduce a new double spending vector: I don't think it affects final correctness of the protocol tho as receiver shouldn't take things as "final" until the new txn hits the chain" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1727064732786425867) 2023-11-21T20:41Z 40K followers, [---] engagements "@SomsenRuben mhmm tho I think w/ a small tweak to the way ppl thing about LN on boarding they're more similar ark gives off-chain on boarding essentially by swapping for a UTXO on chain that will eventually exist so there's an on-chain transaction but the cost can (maybe) be shared" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1727064989775941832) 2023-11-21T20:42Z 40K followers, [--] engagements "@MTorgin @p0stc4p0n3 @GwartyGwart @0xz80 @lightcoin @robin_linus @dr_orlovsky sure. my point is intra block ordering in Bitcoin is much stricter which eliminates a lot of common MEV vectors you don't have global state and transactions that can touch/modify global state all state is effectively local (UTXOs ref'd)" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1729571694803902647) 2023-11-28T18:43Z 40K followers, [--] engagements "@SomsenRuben I think you'd also have a similar thing with "pure" Ark assuming that any of the created outputs end up directly being channels one mental model I've started to warm up to is essentially: Ark as the channel factory control module" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1729652521012990145) 2023-11-29T00:04Z 40K followers, [--] engagements "@0x_orkun @ercwl not sure what you're saying is incorrect: that LN is the only decentralized layer two or you need to be running a roll up full node to safely interact with it running the full node means you need to execute for zk execution is validation but still extra costs beyond chain" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1733969814539083794) 2023-12-10T21:59Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements "@0x_orkun @ercwl correct that you can reduce to a light client if the validity proofs also extend to entire block validation as well afaik no one has implemented all that yet (how many steps or a fully loaded block) ZeroSync is obvs dope but it's only at the header level rn" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1733970145922727994) 2023-12-10T22:01Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements "@lightcoin cool post how do you define "can directly onboard to the protocol" also "Bitcoin-grade double-spend resistance" is in the matrix but not elaborated upon anywhere may also be useful to contrast the theoretical ideal arch of validia stuff vs what's impl'd today (L2beat lvls)" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1735086297088479573) 2023-12-13T23:56Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@lightcoin at the end you say validity rollups offer a more efficient use of block space but imo that's not the case since each txn results in additional marginal bytes on chain whereas w/ channels you can transfer w/o marginal bytes on chain" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1735086548872548526) 2023-12-13T23:57Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@lightcoin one thing I'm still trying to grasp also what the worst case of "validate entire network" state can mean for a verifying client iiuc to exit the client needs to post a merkle proof path to the latest root w/ their leaf in the worst case doing that requires all leaves" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1735087318426644786) 2023-12-14T00:00Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@amasad just gimmie the signal and I'll parachute into the Replit office w/ my boi @kodylow plus some boba for the squad (w/ taro option ofc) so we can make this happen 🫡" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1738033263732834348) 2023-12-22T03:06Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements "several years in the making I'm excited to announce the release of btcd v0.24: this release includes many bug fixes important security fixes (update) pruning support and many optimizations reducing chain sync time from [--] hours+ (days) to [--] hours" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1741287418236649572) 2023-12-31T02:37Z 39.9K followers, 31.4K engagements "@beeforbacon1 @benthecarman to do it you need a notion of what came "first" as they're all based on both a time window for the txn and also a max amt that can be created current impl is just: post a JSON blob in the chain then scan them _all_ to figure out the final ordering" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1741550134947967182) 2023-12-31T20:01Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements "@beeforbacon1 @benthecarman this is super easy to do but you need a full node potentially on top of another index that's close to [---] GB (tho new ones just ignore ordinals and add new meaning) none of the participants run the node so it's all on a few sites w/ those sites being the only actual winners" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1741550364263055374) 2023-12-31T20:02Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements "@LarryBitcoin @Suheb__ @JWWeatherman_ @nitesh_btc very reasonable stance agree we aren't there today (efforts have moved beyond test vectors and into behavioral checks with boundary edge cases) but would rather be on the side of advancing our knowledge to seek the truth of what Bitcoin really is at the software level" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1741594513628672016) 2023-12-31T22:57Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@LarryBitcoin @Suheb__ @JWWeatherman_ @nitesh_btc could compare to ze capital expenditure (both human+monetary) that would be required to write something comparable to Google Chrome from scratch prob hundreds of millies of $'s if not billies today no one in Bitcoin ecosystem takes challenge nor existential risk seriously tho" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1741597187979821135) 2023-12-31T23:08Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@LarryBitcoin @Suheb__ @JWWeatherman_ @nitesh_btc re risk I view it as inverse abs nat log function high risk w/ low capital investment but which starts to teeter off over time rn we're still somewhat early in the curve much mo work needed to move things to the right and down with that expenditure we all gain more freedom" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1741606905116832163) 2023-12-31T23:46Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@JeremyRubin voted for #1 sapio/judica was too big brained for most to really grok imo" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1742261998925291636) 2024-01-02T19:10Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@LukeDashjr that's not really a CVE but we both know that so won't hang on it but btcd never had a datacarrier config opt hasn't changed from [--] bytes but ofc what happened is that in *your* view the spirit of the policy became out of sync w/ the reality of impl not a vuln tho 🤷🏾♂" [X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1742365003653775568) 2024-01-03T01:59Z [--] followers, [---] engagements "@giacomozucco @benthecarman re the question: arguably some have from the very start tho as they were meant to restrict uses cases that developers didn't like or thought were a nuisance imo it's a losing battle: current bitcoind org doesn't have the propensity to modify policy in a significant manner" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1742365764907409414) 2024-01-03T02:02Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@giacomozucco @benthecarman I think a given implementation reserves the right to add w/e policy they want either arbitrary or due to performance concerns I think there'd be a natural inflection point where if policy was too harmful users would revolt either with custom patches or moving to other impl" [X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1742366453163249937) 2024-01-03T02:05Z [--] followers, [---] engagements "@giacomozucco @benthecarman yeah interesting trend rn curious to see how far itgoes maybe a future where ppl just make+distribute policy patches that can apply directly to bitcoind the bitcoind software lineage is still kinda far away from having credible competition so instead make customization ez'er" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1742368449740038201) 2024-01-03T02:13Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@AsherHopp @LukeDashjr luke is literally the only dev that thinks it's a CVE calling it one just serves to dilute the meaning of the term bitcoin full nodes store the chain the chain is full of valid transactions those valid transaction might have other data at most call it unintended usage" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1742408724042629592) 2024-01-03T04:53Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@AsherHopp @LukeDashjr but it literally does not matter honey badger don't give a fuck this is such an inconsequential non-battle this isn't gonna kill Bitcoin Bitcoin hasn't even noticed tick-tock next block I assure you this is NOT the hill you wanna die on" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1742409094110364100) 2024-01-03T04:54Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@cryptodavidw ah with a broader definition Liquid launched in [----] LN mainnet was [----] ish but if expanding to a more general def then throw in: early colored coins mastercoin counterparty etc those were the original forms of "embedded consensus" that ordinal related protocols use hoy" [X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1743376894060597658) 2024-01-05T21:00Z [--] followers, [--] engagements "@Leishman yup: also as mentioned later in that thread Bitcoin's schnorr is bespoke @provoost @peterktodd the MPC approach also has an advantage of supporting off chain key rotation/revocation as well fwiw they have the guy that made the OG ECDSA MPC scheme (Lindell) so even tho have had issues it seems to work for them for all their other coins @provoost @peterktodd the MPC approach also has an advantage of supporting off chain key rotation/revocation as well fwiw they have the guy that made the OG ECDSA MPC scheme (Lindell) so even tho have had issues it seems to work for them for all their" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1750305596044464583) 2024-01-24T23:52Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@rodarmor why are signet coins hard to get you can just make your own for w/e custom dev needs you have I think we need a diff term for signet the network concept vs w/e ppl few as the "default" version" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1752127231013638505) 2024-01-30T00:30Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@diwakergupta you can get that all just by running litd: from another view you get a full suite of battle tested on+off-chain APIs along the way eg: LN atomic HTLC swaps for on-chain assets" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1752167479722549643) 2024-01-30T03:10Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@diwakergupta imo important to note that for Ordinals in order to trustlessly validate and interact with the protocol you need the [---] GB+ Bitcoin chain and also the ord index (expensive to generate and I think also [--] GB+ at theoretical min) w/ TAP you just need bitocin headers (66 MB)" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1752168107513380922) 2024-01-30T03:13Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements "@FinancierLord @fede_intern @muratkun @0x_myilmaz @Artsteiin @0x_orkun @ekrembal_ iiuc no you get sort of an accountable bridge but it doesn't enable unilateral exit committee can stall indefinitely () also unsure re recovery (after verification game goes on chain must the whole thing tear down)" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1754962340133609668) 2024-02-06T20:16Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@FinancierLord @fede_intern @muratkun @0x_myilmaz @Artsteiin @0x_orkun @ekrembal_ from what I've seen ppl grok the circuit and mapping aspects but not yet how the actual execution of the circuit works it's basically a distributed MPC to run the verification circuit across binding Bitcoin transactions similar to Yao's garbled circuits not no privacy req" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1754962578726703110) 2024-02-06T20:17Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@ercwl yee peeping that some code sections relevant to my q's to get a grasp on the relationship between gates+wires and total bandwidth: then also need to factor in wire preimages and sigs sent I think [--] B cycles not gates tho" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1754972159485919655) 2024-02-06T20:55Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@ercwl the part I'm looking forward to the most is ppl impl'ing the on chain verification game I think at that point the misconception the "LN is sooo complex" will start to melt away today it's hard to reliably publish + fee bump two dep txns 100s or 1000s run into direct limits" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1754987093997265224) 2024-02-06T21:55Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "@benthecarman good question.maybe I think there were some past hotfix releases that didn't have any actual commits by me (aside from merge commits or version bumps)" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1755367648727298324) 2024-02-07T23:07Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "IMMA LET Y'ALL FINISH BUT THE LIGHTNING NETWORK IS *THE* ONLY DECENTRALIZED L2 IN PRODUCTION 🏆 NOT JUST ON BITCOIN IN EXISTENCE 🌐 YO MULTI-SIG AIN'T AN L2 🚫 YO CENTRALIZED SEQUENCER AIN'T AN L2 🚫 IF IT AIN'T OPEN ACCESS W/ TRUSTLESS UNILATERAL EXIT IT AIN'T AN L2 🙅🏾♂" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1758241224043962806) 2024-02-15T21:25Z 40.6K followers, 49.2K engagements "@publiusbtc I'm personally cookin' up some stuff myself to dramatically lower on boarding costs in high fee envs and the components are starting to fall into place now to help w/ mobile interactivity but ultimately that's dependent on reliable cross-platform mobile wake up" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1758263322208797023) 2024-02-15T22:53Z 40K followers, [----] engagements "two things jumped out at me in this post: [--]. fundamental misunderstanding of how payments work in a flow network like LN [--]. a missed opportunity (or lack of capability of Ordinals compared to something like Taproot Assets) to deploy an off-chain auction w/ on-chain delivery laser-eye maxis are mad at @brian_armstrong because he tweeted that paying merchants with L1 BTC has a poor UX so coinbase no longer supports that. guess what hes right how do i know because at @TaprootWizards were one of the largest BTC merchants on the planet. this https://t.co/Hj8e0J5nB1 laser-eye maxis are mad at" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1759678511261102128) 2024-02-19T20:37Z 40K followers, 55.6K engagements "here's how you can make a trustless auction on/off-chain using Taproot Assets Lightning and submarine swaps all bidding is done off-chain via HTLCs assets delivered on-chain via an atomic swap 100% verifiable light client friendly and batchable onchain #alphaleak next let's check out how a hybrid off/on-chain auction can work that doesn't have any issues w.r.t refunds or underbids etc etc for the example I'll assume Taproot Assets is being used as in inherits all the Scripting capabilities of Bitcoin UTXOs (assets are UTXOs) next let's check out how a hybrid off/on-chain auction can work that" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1759683688680546386) 2024-02-19T20:57Z 41.8K followers, 11.2K engagements "@udiWertheimer @TaprootWizards all a matter of tradeoffs in the end 🤷♀ have some cool TAP demos w/ stuff like this released 🔜 base simplicity of ordinals is attractive (ignoring no light client compat) but imo just putting asset directly in UTXO frees up a lot from le design space perceptive (composition)" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1759703516229292159) 2024-02-19T22:16Z 40K followers, [---] engagements "@matthewjablack I think of it as a pre-commitment for the auction no need to worry about bid spoofing or w/e as the bid is itself the HTLC if you don't wanna give the seller the ability to initiate then you can add an ochestrator for the auction and it'll end up looking a lot like Pool" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1759800589469556908) 2024-02-20T04:42Z 40K followers, [--] engagements "@matthewjablack if you compare to the design in the QT which is literally just: send me the BTC and I promise to send you the goods I'd say this construct is a strict improvement (atomic trust minimized)" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1759801339507572889) 2024-02-20T04:45Z 40K followers, [---] engagements "@RussellOkung I dey good o I think you're right that today they don't necessarily care about the security+decentralization angle they just want something that'll let them transact easily w/o being beholden to the old masters (banks etc)" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1760050925476168169) 2024-02-20T21:16Z 40K followers, [--] engagements "@RussellOkung we've written a bit about the end state and our vision as we see it here: many years ago I was super skeptical about stablecoins in general never thought they'd last etc -- but over time all our major users and customers kept demanding it" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1760051767256174750) 2024-02-20T21:20Z 40K followers, [---] engagements "@RussellOkung over time I updated my views based on the state of the market (in the past Bitcoin was the crossing point for everything then stable coins changed that) and also the user feedback we got from several angles" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1760052264470007951) 2024-02-20T21:22Z 40K followers, [---] engagements "@brian_trollz @RyanTheGentry @BitcoinMagazine Users of the L2 must be capable of exiting the system through a mechanism that returns unilateral control of their funds on Layer [--] how does Liquid achieve that if functionaries blacklist you or just don't sign (KYC required IIRC) you can't unilaterally exit" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1760401457902477814) 2024-02-21T20:29Z 40K followers, [----] engagements "@Chris_Stewart_5 I think that's diff you totally don't want to have to implement stuff like sliding window wNAF methods in script with field arithmetic that stuff is hard to get right even in a higher level language I'm thinking OP_EC_ADD and OP_EC_MUL" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1760754605334671659) 2024-02-22T19:53Z 40K followers, [---] engagements "@Chris_Stewart_5 on the other hand arithmetic op codes could be used to implement a lot of other stuff w/o needing to commit to a new cryptosystem bundled within Script" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1760761645872353491) 2024-02-22T20:21Z 40K followers, [---] engagements "@tierotiero @ajtowns yep don't disagree re non-interactive is also the case that 100% of this stuff is just using some custodial wallet via a web app (since to run properly you need like [---] GB+ of disk space for chain + indexes no light client support w/ ordinals) so provider can run le LN node" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1765159356608168104) 2024-03-05T23:36Z 40K followers, [--] engagements "@theinstagibbs @niftynei I guess the UX/interop gains from a dev/app perspective is so gud that ppl don't care about le "trust me bro" security model also in order to keep up w/ a roll up you need to actually run le full node (+ D/L all blks) but no one does that either so they just accept w/e state" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1770176863609946391) 2024-03-19T19:53Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements "on the contrary reducing the block size to say [---] KB would do more to price out "normal" users than those that seek to create speculative games out of gorilla jpegs or w/e if fees were 100x where they are today many transactional uses cases may fall out but ppl with house money to spend on gorilla jpegs would persist" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1778933611573731836) 2024-04-12T23:49Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements "just snagged the last ticket (at this tier) via LN the $400 payment (600k sats) was completed in [---] seconds w/ a 0.07% fee (7 bps $0.29 actual) routed thru the network via [--] hops ⚡ but noooo "LN is dead" 😱 /s the only other payment system on *Earth* that would've been faster+cheaper would be me directly putting some dollarydoos in someone's hand (not accounting for travel costs 😝) we're almost sold out of the second to last ticket tier for @btcplusplus Save yourself some sats and snag one of the last ones at this price https://t.co/Se8Os6vp9A https://t.co/6nU0Fp31WM we're almost sold out" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1779983927090033015) 2024-04-15T21:23Z 39.9K followers, 39.7K engagements "is there a plaintext write up for those of us w/ enough braincells that can understand prose w/o extra doodles from what I understand the premise sketched out isn't correct: OP_CAT along cannot arbitrarily restrict a taproot output script as it can't compute P+(t*G) by itself so it's restricted to only constraining that an output script is the same as one of the input scripts the extra functionality required to arbitraily constraint taproot outputs is exactly what OP_CHECKCONTRACTVERIFY by itself does so you want that *and* OP_CAT cc @salvatoshi @johanth" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1780003812474036331) 2024-04-15T22:42Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements "BIP [---] (Ancestor Package Relay) has been merged into the BIP repo ancestor package relay is a fundamental upgrade to Bitcoin's p2p transaction relay network that enables nodes to effectively propagate sets of dependent transactions today if you have A - B - C but fee rate of A+B is too low C can't bump A+B as nodes forgot about them -- package relay fixes this this boosts the effectiveness of fee bumping techniques such as CPFP and will serve to increase the security of off-chain protocols like LN check out @bitcoinoptech's page on the topic for more info: congrats to @glozow and all the" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1783260878479270228) 2024-04-24T22:24Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements "ofc beebufx are worthless on the other hand once stablecoins 💸 are lifted into Taproot Asset channels a new network effect flywheel will begin to turn 🔄⚡💸🌎" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1786064509196505574) 2024-05-02T16:05Z 40.2K followers, [----] engagements "@LisandroIaffar @guggero @jonhbit @dstadulis check out our docs here: https://docs.lightning.engineering/lightning-network-tools/taproot-assets https://docs.lightning.engineering/lightning-network-tools/taproot-assets" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1788638197498642629) 2024-05-09T18:32Z 40.5K followers, [---] engagements "@p2pfiat the first hop sends a beefbux HTLC the last hop receives a beefbux HTLC in the middle a normal BTC HTLC is used to bind the transfer" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1788996262936867151) 2024-05-10T18:15Z 40.5K followers, [--] engagements "@p2pfiat not really a DLC oracle can just lie also if they never reveal information then a contract cannot settle DLC oracles by definition are a trusted third party the main innovation was making them oblivious this on the other hand just relies on market forces" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1789005465780908320) 2024-05-10T18:51Z 40.5K followers, [--] engagements "@p2pfiat DLC certainly does have its uses tho the tradeoff is the collateral needed to allow sufficient varied payouts in the contract (if not enough gains/losses can't be realized) and relying on oracle reveal" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1789005841355649144) 2024-05-10T18:53Z 40.5K followers, [---] engagements "continuing Taproot Asset channel szn. 🌻 I'm excited announce the first mainnet asset swap w/ Taproot Asset channels 🥕⚡ in this demo we've simplified our topology to: Zane -beefbux channel- Yara -BTC Channel- Carol so we only have a single asset channel connecting Zane to Yara Carol is a normal *unupgraded* node on the network with a normal BTC invoice Zane is able to pay Carol's BTC invoice by swapping his beefbux for BTC on the fly using the edge RFQ forwarding+negotiation system ⛓🔃 ⚡ I'm excited announce the first mainnet *multi-hop asset* payment w/ Taproot Asset channels 🥕⚡ in this" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1791171395336192174) 2024-05-16T18:18Z 40.5K followers, 95.9K engagements "have you read some of the code out there the bulk of it is critical primitives that relay on OP_CAT that can only be made more efficient via very specific op codes (eg: merkle tree verify hash into transcript etc) eg here's merkle tree validation: PoW verification (it'll be a Bitcoin specific STARK so can actually re-use Bitcoin PoW to bolster bits of security): hashing for fiat-shamir channel: polynomial commitment opening: https://github.com/Bitcoin-Wildlife-Sanctuary/bitcoin-circle-stark/blob/a1198601f5180a3de0ae31f64a3ee978fc01bd52/src/twiddle_merkle_tree/bitcoin_script.rs#L23-L94" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1798084076798435637) 2024-06-04T20:07Z 40.5K followers, 10.9K engagements "@ian__major how are you comparing privacy ark server knows all sender+dest ecash server knows notes are being refreshed (tor usage) but not necessarily the identities both can halt all transfers by going inactive but tbh lot of things better than centralized mints w/ easy rug access" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1799551193703985429) 2024-06-08T21:16Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "ah gotcha well I guess that's kinda the beauty of primitives that allow for permissionless innovation: lots to explore still but yeh with the "caboose" technique you can thread thru state across transactions into a state machine needs some extra interaction but then the script can select an entire P2TR key (but not leaf selection) to carry on" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1813656654384361481) 2024-07-17T19:26Z 40.5K followers, [---] engagements "if you're doing global state w/o a Chia-like UTXO model (where you can ref a contract with a stable ID instead of pure UTXO and don't need to ref the entire script in a block) then you can't do concurrent access in a block so everything needs to be batched I think focusing on AMMs is a red herring not saying ppl won't use them or that they won't exist but that they'll have a very diff UX than on other chains we already have ppl buying out entire blocks for meme purposes ascribing extra protocol value to satoshis taking advantage of poorly designed dollar auction protocols same goes for those" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1814016111341601167) 2024-07-18T19:15Z 40.5K followers, [---] engagements "today we're excited to announce the mainnet release of end-to-end Taproot Assets integration w/ the Lightning Network 💱🌐⚡ with this release the Lightning Network evolves into a global currency agnostic payment layer all backed by #Bitcoin Backbone of the network 🚊 Announcing the first mainnet release of multi-asset Lightning. 💱⚡ With Taproot Assets users can make instant low fee asset transfers bringing trillions of stablecoin volume to #bitcoin. Lightning is now the global interoperable financial layer. 🌐 https://t.co/AHCBpEEO3i Announcing the first mainnet release of multi-asset" [X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1815807239762108571) 2024-07-23T17:52Z 42.1K followers, 43.5K engagements "@ElectrumWallet @tierotiero @callebtc was a conversation amongst some devs at @BitcoinSeoulCon after a talk focused on improving the Electrum protocol perhaps it was a distinction between ElectrumX and Electrum" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1816528981803589921) 2024-07-25T17:40Z 40.5K followers, [---] engagements "@tierotiero @darosior @callebtc @ElectrumWallet what extra stuff does verbose fetching send" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1816529677223436569) 2024-07-25T17:43Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@Chris_Stewart_5 @BaiduApollo I think @comma_ai is the OG: https://github.com/commaai/openpilot https://github.com/commaai/openpilot" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1819045477738053809) 2024-08-01T16:20Z 40.5K followers, [---] engagements "@MichaelLevin @fede_intern if ppl revive the old btcrelay project then they'd be able to set up the contract s.t it's able to verify provable burns on the Taproot Asset side to programmatically disburse funds on the other side https://lightning.engineering/api-docs/api/taproot-assets/taproot-assets/burn-asset http://btcrelay.org/ https://lightning.engineering/api-docs/api/taproot-assets/taproot-assets/burn-asset http://btcrelay.org/" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1821655073140961681) 2024-08-08T21:09Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@MichaelLevin @fede_intern I don't know enough about the latest architecture re ETH light clients are pertains to the beacon chain PoS weak subjectivity etc etc but assuming you just hard code some committee public key then in theory post OP_CAT the reverse is also possible tho may not be cheap" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1821655264044671243) 2024-08-08T21:10Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@ElectrumWallet @tierotiero @callebtc @BitcoinSeoulCon re clients not fetching/verifying stumbled onto this set of release notes: so before this they didn't also fetch the merkle proofs to verify https://bitcoindevkit.org/blog/_2024-q2-update/ https://bitcoindevkit.org/blog/_2024-q2-update/" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1823490878574616588) 2024-08-13T22:44Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@fede_intern @class_lambda @gleamlang how's Gleam stack up to Elixir" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1825347089129439716) 2024-08-19T01:40Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@matthewjablack there's no negotiation only the creator of the channel can trigger updates in this case the responder didn't like it so chose to force close alternatively they could've waited a few blocks for the dust to settle with pkg relay the commitment txn can be zero fee" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1826754596381098019) 2024-08-22T22:53Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "then you use cpfp to bump when you go to broadcast anchor is a part of it yes it lets them only need to target getting into the mempool not the next block but the mempool has a min fee if that rises to high then the commitment txn won't propagate pkg relay means we can always propagate" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1826755030223044625) 2024-08-22T22:55Z 40.6K followers, [--] engagements "@karpathy the future is here but not yet evenly distributed: using the Lightning Network today we can programmatically send values as small as $0.00006 over the Internet instantly avoiding all the friction that comes w/ high txn costs w/ traditional payments https://l402.org/ https://l402.org/" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1828533720019575028) 2024-08-27T20:43Z 40.6K followers, 43.8K engagements "@matthewjablack ark doesn't work well for small payments: each transaction set requires an on chain transaction vtxos need to be large enough to create on chain vtxos are fixed denom they must also pay txn fees directly out of the output then add on the unknown service provider fee" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1828587596932620363) 2024-08-28T00:17Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@matthewjablack imo ecash is just an entry in someone else's db.if that goes poof so does w/e money you think you have I think there're lots of low hanging fruit re off chain channel onboarding to reduce onboarding costs" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1828589812711817334) 2024-08-28T00:25Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@theinstagibbs @Ethan_Heilman @TheBlueMatt to facilitate progress all that's needed is discussion of ideas with an open mind and heterogeneous yet open dev/researcher groups lotta smart ppl out there myopic to short them" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1829572145665778121) 2024-08-30T17:29Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@TheBlueMatt @theinstagibbs @Ethan_Heilman why not ppl should always be discussing all ideas and options imo from your PoV when's the right time to start *discussing* is the answer just a variant of: "it will be known" do you think we have tools today to materially increase the ability for users to self-custody" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1829608002711888088) 2024-08-30T19:51Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "this is also a very useful tool for Bitcoin sidechains/bridges: you generate a STARK proof that some Bitcoin was sent to an addr that can only be unlocked via another STARK proof (possible w/ OP_CAT) the sidechain accepts that proof permits coins to be moved in the chain to go back to Bitcoin the sidechain suspends the coins again the user generates a STARK proof it was done correctly and uses that to unlock the OG Bitcoin w/ that you get trust minimized sidechains on Bitcoin w/o overloading consensus (no PoW awareness/sig needed) and w/o needing some committee/federation/sequencer prob ends" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1831795717754777772) 2024-09-05T20:45Z 40.6K followers, [----] engagements "such proofs can also help to improve the state of bitcoin self-custody via STARK based blind signers (needs actual ZK): https://x.com/salvatoshi/status/1831784866213720186 @BrandonR505 The use case I'm thinking about is approximating a blind cosigner that is a service that would sign a sighash if certain properties of the transaction (agreed beforehand) are true. So nothing is on-chain proof generation and verification are all off-chain. https://x.com/salvatoshi/status/1831784866213720186 @BrandonR505 The use case I'm thinking about is approximating a blind cosigner that is a service that" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1831796001256169791) 2024-09-05T20:46Z 40.6K followers, [----] engagements "@lightcoin @dario_nakamoto @ellipticurve what I meant by that above is that a sequencer in the roll up landscape (single server handling all the ordering) isn't prescribed by the design your sidechain may have one ofc but that's independent of the bridging mechanism" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1832152473903231003) 2024-09-06T20:22Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@glozow @theinstagibbs @realtbast gotcha how can a keyless anchors even be secure only see data pushes for the witness there wouldn't this introduce new ways 3rd parties can interfere w/ timely confirmation" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1834286210770239683) 2024-09-12T17:41Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@theinstagibbs @glozow @realtbast is that even worth it tho based on my current knowledge I would say no musig2 chans give you savings as is just looking at the [--] party case we found tons of pinning edge cases why won't that expand surface area by allowing any party to interfere with conformation" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1834295450113097878) 2024-09-12T18:18Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@benthecarman I think if an app uses some API to fetch/pay invoices then they can take advantage of it as you have all the context you need there (eg: we can use it w/ Loop Out) end user wallets are diff tho as there're coordination costs (which also exist today w/ BOLT 12)" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1835820598397960259) 2024-09-16T23:18Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@n1ckler @liameagen @robin_linus so in order to keep up with the system all clients (ppl just keeping up or wanting to send/recv) need to download every Bitcoin block to scan for nullifiers perhaps it's possible to allow clients to only download *just* the nullifiers and a succinct proof re extraction" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1837303648965275889) 2024-09-21T01:31Z 40.6K followers, [----] engagements "@AdamBorco @n1ckler @liameagen @robin_linus it all just goes in Bitcoin so growth is bounded by block size limit" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1837303751583109130) 2024-09-21T01:32Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@John_Ely_21m @reardencode @rot13maxi what I mean is that pure networks are possible but bootstrapping is difficult and no other asset has the strong network effects bitcoin has w/ current arch bitcoin will bridge heterogeneous assets using a decentralized payment network" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1839870145965289961) 2024-09-28T03:30Z 40.6K followers, [--] engagements "@thedavidcoen @bordalix @Yashraj__ imo end flow is pretty equiv lots of tools in the toolbox in the end which is great but I don't think ark solves this particular case better than existing options once you factor in forced exit costs (mo on chain mo delays)" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1840006799778557973) 2024-09-28T12:33Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@blapta @robin_linus @renepickhardt systems like zkCoins/ShieldCSV do an impressive job at compressing amt of data that needs to be posted on chain for a txn (64 bytes) but ultimately there'll still be classes of payment sizes where the marginal cost is too high to use in an environment of sustained high fees" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1840886446452064474) 2024-09-30T22:48Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@n1ckler @robin_linus @blapta @renepickhardt" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1841008808669413858) 2024-10-01T06:54Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "@n1ckler @robin_linus @blapta @renepickhardt going back to the OP: as long as you care about the security or the currency of the mainchain you always need unilateral exit forced exit is a safety valve for side chain/L2 if you don't care about the security or currency of a base chain then u can use a one-way peg/burn" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1841014414788669713) 2024-10-01T07:16Z 40.6K followers, [----] engagements "@rot13maxi yup and that's ok if you don't need to worry about returning then you can shed a lot of design constraints along the way" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1841181605785977141) 2024-10-01T18:21Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "⚠ attention lnd enjoyers ⚠ if you're updating to Bitcoin Core [----] then set the following flag to suppress a breaking RPC change that may prevent lnd from starting up: -deprecatedrpc=warnings otherwise I wouldn't hesitate to upgrade as this release contains some of the most consequential p2p updates for LN since segwit (1p1c and TRUC) the sooner full nodes update the sooner we can use the new features to make LN safer in high fee environments Bitcoin Core [----] includes support for testnet4 opportunistic one-parent-one-child (1p1c) package relay default relay TRUC transactions default relay of" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1842956355516223824) 2024-10-06T15:53Z 40.6K followers, 26.2K engagements "today we're releasing full details for CVE-2024-38365: CVE-2024-38365 describes a consensus bug introduced in btcd v0.10.0 (released May 2015) related to the dreaded OP_CODESEPARATOR opcode if you run btcd and haven't already upgrade to btcd v0.24.2 https://github.com/btcsuite/btcd/security/advisories/GHSA-27vh-h6mc-q6g8 https://github.com/btcsuite/btcd/security/advisories/GHSA-27vh-h6mc-q6g8" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1844305683174314020) 2024-10-10T09:15Z 40.6K followers, [----] engagements "for more details see the posted Github Security Advisory above as well as this post on Delving Bitcoin: https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/cve-2024-38365-public-disclosure-btcd-findanddelete-bug/1184/1 https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/cve-2024-38365-public-disclosure-btcd-findanddelete-bug/1184/1" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1844305799914586434) 2024-10-10T09:15Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements "a few weeks ago 30+ Lightning devs+researchers from around the world gathered in Tokyo Japan to discuss the current state and evolution of the LN protocol ⚡ here's [----] artisanal human generated LLM free words summarizing the various discussions: https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/ln-summit-2024-notes-summary-commentary/1198 https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/ln-summit-2024-notes-summary-commentary/1198" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1846359256251224079) 2024-10-16T01:15Z 40.6K followers, 25.3K engagements "@robin_linus why are AMMs viewed as the boogeyman anything that enables on chain state machines can be used to impl it they leak MEV on ETH due to the account system itself: you can re-order transactions arbitrarily any contract can touch another invalid txns mined etc UTXOs are diff" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1851035332084691399) 2024-10-28T22:56Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements "@robin_linus [--] minute block times also means they'll suck UX wise: and inability to ref global state w/ UTXOs means they'd be inherently serial with only one txn interaction per block: https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1814016111341601167 https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1813989124883579005 @TheBlueMatt @niftynei @theinstagibbs if you're doing global state w/o a Chia-like UTXO model (where you can ref a contract with a stable ID instead of pure UTXO and don't need to ref the entire script in a block) then you can't do concurrent access in a block so everything needs to be batched I think focusing" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1851035619872379086) 2024-10-28T22:57Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements "@robin_linus but ultimately if we think that adding the ability to concat two bytes will destroy the system then we might actually have something very fragile on our hands yet just think of all the horrible things that can be done with merkle trees 😱" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1851035920046440517) 2024-10-28T22:58Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements "@theinstagibbs agree tho that doing just cat would be a waste as it should be packaged w/ other stuff that enables instantiation of state machines in a more succinct manner on chain merkle trees are amazing tho (just go read FIPS-205) so it'd be good to enable using that on-chain" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1851037541354668119) 2024-10-28T23:05Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements "so ya like merkle trees eh 🧐 ok go read FIPS [---] front to back and see if you can emerge unscathed" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1851040891504640276) 2024-10-28T23:18Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements "@robin_linus imo it's a useful primitive just like txn introspection is but with just txn op codes you don't get merkle trees agree that other stuff can emulate some (but not all) of its functionality more succinctly: https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1851037541354668119t=FRd1IDvs5kkGe14OiMV7fA&s=19 @theinstagibbs agree tho that doing just cat would be a waste as it should be packaged w/ other stuff that enables instantiation of state machines in a more succinct manner on chain merkle trees are amazing tho (just go read FIPS-205) so it'd be good to enable using that on-chain" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1851051505501315479) 2024-10-29T00:00Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements "@robin_linus that's the wrong framing "controversial" is relative to w/e ppl think is acceptable at the time should be about permissionless innovation we _do_ that ppl have used tx introspection op codes to make AMM-like constructs on Liquid which you seem to fear so much" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1851338595212411047) 2024-10-29T19:01Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements "@robin_linus but truthfully idk cuz no one has built anything w/ it yet AFAICT it isn't even in bitcoin inquisition yet stuff like cat has demos that show unique use cases outside of covenants: we don't know the ergonomics of TXHASH yet I say that as a fan https://github.com/ajtowns/powcoins https://github.com/ajtowns/powcoins" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1851338802301976776) 2024-10-29T19:02Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@robin_linus there's no way to prevent shitcoin casinos on Bitcoin they already exist (and have for years) but you don't need to like them ppl are doing what they want with their BTC that's the power of permissionless innovation" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1851355319450157414) 2024-10-29T20:07Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements "@robin_linus I think if you answered my questions then this convo would be able to go somewhere productive how does cat alter Bitcoin's nature in unpredictable ways compared to more powerful introspection op code would adding merkle trees alter Bitcoin's nature in unpredictable ways" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1851396854661181509) 2024-10-29T22:53Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@robin_linus is it possible to introduce a consensus upgrade that doesn't bring along with it unknown unknowns if so what's the process look like to arriving at that conclusion theses q's would help us get somewhere too: https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1851356213575139692 @robin_linus from what I gather ur against anything that can be shown to enable something AMM-like no matter the other benefits how confident are you that with TXHASH ppl can't make on chain swapping contracts should the focus be ensuring that AMMs can't be made with any future forks" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1851397303321735172) 2024-10-29T22:54Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements "@TheBlueMatt seems what you want is a 10000x scalability improvement imo to get that you prob need to go with some entirely different architecture a dramatic overhaul of base Bitcoin may never happen but if we enable succinct proof verification in Script the playing field is opened" [X Link](https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1851706430728073454) 2024-10-30T19:23Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements Limited data mode. 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Top accounts mentioned or mentioned by @robinlinus @ajtowns @theinstagibbs @thebluematt @rustytwit @callebtc @matthewjablack @benthecarman @jbulkeley @lightcoin @n1ckler @0xorkun @obsdmd @bobmcelrath @giacomozucco @somsenruben @rot13maxi @reardencode @fedeintern @kepano
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"the madlads at @StarkWareLtd have done it 😎 picking up from where @ZeroSync_ left off (SPV verification) the Shinigami project seeks to create STARK proofs capable of verifying Bitcoin Script execution in the future you'll be able to verify a single recursive proof that proves valid* execution for the entire chain 🤯 Just validated the execution of the first Bitcoin transaction with Shinigami. https://t.co/PlfBZZ1mx1 https://t.co/sd9YoYGdvM Just validated the execution of the first Bitcoin transaction with Shinigami. https://t.co/PlfBZZ1mx1 https://t.co/sd9YoYGdvM"
X Link 2024-09-05T20:40Z 42.1K followers, 59K engagements
"@kepano embedded Claude Code directly into @obsdmd using the agent sdk got tired of switching back n forth between obsidian and my terminal https://github.com/Roasbeef/obsidian-claude-code https://github.com/Roasbeef/obsidian-claude-code"
X Link 2026-01-03T01:45Z 42.1K followers, 21.6K engagements
"@esneider a way of sending signaling information between sender/recvr (getting hashes signing receipts etc) yes would need a protocol draft this has been my intended path as Sphinx is use in the setup phase for HORNET zooming out something like offers can be impl'd on top of HORNET"
X Link 2019-11-22T23:49Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements
"@esneider so it's about making a general layer for payment signaling/negotiation then building stuff like offers or w/e on top of that vs adding a new protocol tunneled message for each new idea"
X Link 2019-11-22T23:50Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements
"looks like all the hard work we put into optimizations for lnd v0.14.0 hasn't gone unnoticed ⚡🛠 #rc1soon #bitcoin"
X Link 2021-10-06T23:16Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"7/ Analysis and Probing of Parallel Channels in the Lightning Network: describes approaching for multi-channel aware channel probing proposes countermeasures of diff forwarding strategies link-level payment splitting (cc @joostjgr @bitconner) n mo https://fc22.ifca.ai/preproceedings/132.pdf https://fc22.ifca.ai/preproceedings/132.pdf"
X Link 2022-01-29T01:58Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements
"8/ Resurrecting Address Clustering in Bitcoin: (yeh this is just fc [--] now for a bit) new techniques for Bitcoin address clustering/tracking.where dem Bitcoin snarks/starks at 🙈 https://fc22.ifca.ai/preproceedings/87.pdf https://fc22.ifca.ai/preproceedings/87.pdf"
X Link 2022-01-29T02:00Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements
"IN [----] THE BOTS PAY YOU ⚡🤖 today we're releasing a new L402 specification along side @LangChainAI powered tools that enable AI Agents to traverse L402 APIs (HTTP [---] pay-per call APIs over Lightning) and also directly hold+manage Bitcoin via @OpenAI function calls Announcing a new set of tools to build Lightning⚡and #bitcoin-powered AI products for a global audience. Using L402 a standard for API authentication with LN payments and @langchainAI a simplified AI app framework we are opening up #AI4All 🤖🌎 https://t.co/EQseanCurv Announcing a new set of tools to build Lightning⚡and"
X Link 2023-07-06T19:06Z 42.1K followers, 389.4K engagements
"to fill this gap we've also created a series of "tools" using the @OpenAI function call API and @LangChainAI that enables the agents to directly hold manage and spend BTC (on chain and via LN) check out this notebook to see an example in action: https://github.com/lightninglabs/LangChainBitcoin/blob/main/llm_bitcoin_tools.ipynb https://github.com/lightninglabs/LangChainBitcoin/blob/main/llm_bitcoin_tools.ipynb"
X Link 2023-07-06T19:23Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements
"L402 can also help to increase the accessibility of the latest n greatest AI models for the rest of the world 🌎 with LN creators can create applications that monetize from day one and are able to reach a global audience check out this demo from @kodylow built on @ChatbotUI"
X Link 2023-07-06T19:29Z 42.1K followers, 82.9K engagements
"#bitcoin the Internet's native currency will be the currency of choice for AI agents the L402 protocol will be their programmatic gateway to the world's paid APIs (and commerce w/ other agents): 🤖 to 🤖 💸 via⚡-🌐 💻 https://l402.tech/ https://lightning.engineering/posts/2023-07-05-l402-langchain/ Co-founder of the technology giant Palantir @JTLonsdale says There is one type of #bitcoin buyer that could be very important AI agents. AI will use crypto to coordinate https://t.co/pGMGUwaTGd https://l402.tech/ https://lightning.engineering/posts/2023-07-05-l402-langchain/ Co-founder of the"
X Link 2024-01-23T18:23Z 42.1K followers, 42.7K engagements
"@matthewjablack nothing LN specific here closing due to fee spikes is an implementation specific choice"
X Link 2024-08-22T22:19Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@matthewjablack impls can/should smooth out fee updates to be less spiky tho once package relay is widely deployed impls won't need to try to guess future fee rates at all"
X Link 2024-08-22T22:22Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"the moment we've all been waiting for.USDT is coming back to Bitcoin via Taproot Assets 🎉⛓🌎💸 w/ stablecoins on the Lightning Network the network evolves into an instant + low fee currency agnostic payments network all backed by the Bitcoin Backbone of the network Today we're announcing that Tether is coming to bitcoin and Lightning 💸⚡ With the security and decentralization of bitcoin and the speed and scalability of Lightning USDT will bring hundreds of millions of users and trillions in volume. It all comes back to bitcoin. https://t.co/Hp6qQCpAVl Today we're announcing that Tether is"
X Link 2025-01-30T22:00Z 42.1K followers, 179.8K engagements
"tapd v0.5.1 has just been released 🥕 🥕 this release includes a number of bug fixes optimizations and feature extensions including: * various improvements to the universe db cache * a new group key reveal version that supports hardware wallet minting () * UX improvements to SealBatch (accepts a PSBT) * various bug fixes to the RFQ and asset chan send/recv flows * improvements to protocol forwards/backwards compat via unknown odd TLV types * a new taprpc.RegisterTransfer RPC to make advanced flows like PSBT asset swap easier https://github.com/lightninglabs/taproot-assets/releases/tag/v0.5.1"
X Link 2025-02-12T21:24Z 41.8K followers, [----] engagements
"welp looks like the Razorbacks from @itsDanielSuarez's Daemon series are now a thing: https://daemon.fandom.com/wiki/Razorback Jumping self-balancing robotic bikes. https://t.co/RKtuKYQlQh https://daemon.fandom.com/wiki/Razorback Jumping self-balancing robotic bikes. https://t.co/RKtuKYQlQh"
X Link 2025-02-21T23:28Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements
"@BobMcElrath @nvk ok I think you're talking past me I don't think anything I've said in this thread is incorrect maybe re read portions of it the utxo set is a distinct data structure from blocks you don't delete from the block you delete from the kv mapping (rather never add it)"
X Link 2025-05-06T22:00Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@BobMcElrath @nvk re op return (omit from utxo set) this is the default behavior by pretty much all impls no impls support retroactively pruning witness data but you can choose to not download it at all at which point you aren't during full verification"
X Link 2025-05-06T22:01Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@ajtowns @realtbast it's been deployed in lnd for nearly [--] years now it was static for some time but then ppl wanted to change the scripts to be partially mini script compatible then splicing got further along so it was extended then then rbf coop close etc etc"
X Link 2025-10-29T16:12Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@Louferlou @giacomozucco @ZeusLN @PhoenixWallet yes one uses [--] and the other [--] wide spread adoption of [--] is a somewhat hard switch over as there'll always be wallets that lag and maybe still only understand [--] my idea of blinded paths in [--] is to try to make that transition smoother"
X Link 2025-11-10T20:04Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements
"@Louferlou @giacomozucco @ZeusLN @PhoenixWallet we're working on the next leg as well but there's still quite a bit of incubation needed to ensure that fetching invoices over an unreliable network gives the same UX as when you're presented directly w/ the invoice in the QR code"
X Link 2025-11-10T20:12Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements
"woah this is def the #Bitcoin product launch of the decade 👏 @CashApp 🫡 This feature will start to roll out tomorrow allowing you to pay from @CashApp over bitcoin rails using your USD balance - no bitcoin required. This dramatically opens up the aperture of who can pay with bitcoin to our entire monthly user base of 58m - normies included. https://t.co/8viY5t4JDh This feature will start to roll out tomorrow allowing you to pay from @CashApp over bitcoin rails using your USD balance - no bitcoin required. This dramatically opens up the aperture of who can pay with bitcoin to our entire"
X Link 2025-11-13T02:26Z 42.1K followers, 10.9K engagements
"would be dope if the PoS operator didn't need to manually select the Bitcoin option as adds friction (required training/knowledge etc etc) instead ideally the QR code that's already displayed embeds a compact LNURL endpoint so no invoice/addr waste available by default As a small business owner of a bake shop we cannot be more excited that @Square has made it so easy to integrate bitcoin payments. Thank you @jack 🙏. Lets go ⚡ https://t.co/SAqxTGQ9lT As a small business owner of a bake shop we cannot be more excited that @Square has made it so easy to integrate bitcoin payments. Thank you"
X Link 2025-11-13T02:29Z 42.1K followers, 10.3K engagements
"@w_s_bitcoin @Square @jack @milessuter why make them press anything at all flow should be exactly the same I just scan the QR code that's always there w/ no extra actions from the seller can get it via NFC too etc the point is that you don't always need to make the LN invoice you do it on demand"
X Link 2025-11-13T19:28Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@TheBlueMatt better than all the info you leak out when using credit cards today 🤷 hard to truly protect consumers from IP leaks also IIUC I don't have a static IP I use from my mobile phone anyway but I totally get the sentiment but would be the best UX can deliver today"
X Link 2025-11-13T19:47Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@TheBlueMatt the UX flow I was describing is one where the QR code that's already on the PoS is always displayed and there's no need for "lemmie pay in BTC" if it's always displayed and it's always a BOLT [--] invoice large % is never used hence the desire to fetch something on demand"
X Link 2025-11-13T19:49Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@ConorOkus @OneSirMeow maybe but then most major cloud outages over the past [--] years had some DNS failure at their core: there's def levels to it most devs has run a trivial HTTP server before but never needed to hands on manage DNS exp varies ofc etc etc https://aws.amazon.com/message/101925/ https://aws.amazon.com/message/101925/"
X Link 2025-11-13T19:55Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@n0m3ncl4tur3 @TheBlueMatt @ConorOkus @OneSirMeow imo BOLT [--] sorta fits that model re motivation and is more decentralized vs federated also I still know nothing about nostr lol by EOY lnd master will have native onion messaging integrated so a big unlock for more learnings re invoice fetching latency and retries etc"
X Link 2025-11-13T20:46Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements
"@BitMEXResearch @nic_carter devs are indeed talking+working on the problem just not focused as much on the fanfare of the ultimate political question of how to redistribute wealth under the perceived pressure of some doomsday threat this is what devs talking about it looks like: https://conduition.io/code/fast-slh-dsa/ https://conduition.io/code/fast-slh-dsa/"
X Link 2025-11-26T21:36Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@BitMEXResearch @nic_carter my ref'd talk exploring some of the engineering tradeoffs of hash based sigs: there's a team doing a deep dive on the lattice based variants to replicate all the nice features we enjoy today like threshold sigs that aren't possible w/ just hash based https://drive.google.com/file/d/12UlzfGvG09IwvzWscL2FT8CoewGBWlGD/viewusp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/12UlzfGvG09IwvzWscL2FT8CoewGBWlGD/viewusp=sharing"
X Link 2025-11-26T21:38Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@BitMEXResearch @nic_carter so at least on the Bitcoin eng side I'm not too worried ( fork politics aside for a moment.) myself the boring work is now to incrementally give holders access to the option of having a PQC tapleaf branch ofc there'll need to be coordination later to turn off key spend"
X Link 2025-11-26T21:40Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"hashed-based PQ sigs (SLH-DSA) are an attractive choice for Bitcoin (sha256 go brrr) however their simplicity brings tradeoffs no: BIP-32 succinct threshold/multisignatures etc so no watch-only wallets less flexibility+security re custody can lattices (ML-DSA) do better🤔"
X Link 2025-12-10T00:25Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements
"unlike hash-based sigs lattice sigs have more of the algebraic structure needed for BIP-32 thanks to a recently published paper we now have a concrete ML-DSA based BIP32 scheme Towards Post-Quantum Bitcoin Blockchain using Dilithium Signature https://cic.iacr.org/p/2/3/3 https://cic.iacr.org/p/2/3/3"
X Link 2025-12-10T00:25Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"hash based are ofc still attractive they can be smaller (both stateful and stateless) than comparable lattice based sigs ML-DSA-B is just swapping hash functions not all that novel the truth of the matter is that no sigs today (lattice or otherwise) as standardized provide the level of functionality (bare min really) to make secure Bitcoin wallets no schemes simultaneously support: bip-32 public derivation threshold sigs succinct multi signatures adapters sigs etc variants of ML-DSA that give BIP [--] functionality exist but the playing field is still immature: there's quite a lot of"
X Link 2025-12-19T21:17Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@saen_dev @obsdmd I have a local cron job to re-build the index just a few days old so can't speak much on the maintenance load I migrated over from Logseq and have around 1k notes/pages rn rebuilding the index [--] seconds"
X Link 2026-01-03T05:06Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements
"been using Claude Code a ton over the past [--] months or so but this was the first time I messed w/ the Claude Agent SDK it's crazy powerful don't see why you need any other agent framework needed it in my fave lang so I made a Claude Go Agent SDK: https://github.com/Roasbeef/claude-agent-sdk-go @kepano embedded Claude Code directly into @obsdmd using the agent sdk https://t.co/fQ0ETgV1N9 got tired of switching back n forth between obsidian and my terminal https://github.com/Roasbeef/claude-agent-sdk-go @kepano embedded Claude Code directly into @obsdmd using the agent sdk"
X Link 2026-01-05T21:55Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements
"claude-agent-sdk-go has near 100% feature parity w/ the official typescript version there's a ton of undocumented features in the Claude Code CLI that make the Agent SDK actually work I've documented much of this here: https://github.com/Roasbeef/claude-agent-sdk-go/blob/main/docs/cli-protocol.md https://github.com/Roasbeef/claude-agent-sdk-go/blob/main/docs/cli-protocol.md"
X Link 2026-01-05T21:56Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@JakeBlockchain @kepano @obsdmd do you see it in the settings UI here's what mine looks like you may need to restart the entire thing after set the env variable if that doesn't work try this maybe launchctl setenv CLAUDE_CODE_OAUTH_TOKEN "$(echo $CLAUDE_CODE_OAUTH_TOKEN)""
X Link 2026-01-06T00:44Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@JakeBlockchain @kepano @obsdmd hmm not it shouldn't matter have you set the env variable in your bashrc/zshrc also assume you've done a had restart of Obsidian as well you also should be able to override the env variable in the UI too happy to continue here or an issue on the repo"
X Link 2026-01-06T01:00Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements
"personally I never use "yolo" mode on any of this stuff I have OS native UI level notifications to let me know when they're blocked or need approval on something approval block is nice as then I can review some of what it's been doing to see if it's on teh right track or not if it is then maybe I'll auto approve changes for a period of time if not I tighten the leash and maybe force it back into plan mode https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2010838140895052079 https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2010838140895052079"
X Link 2026-01-12T22:15Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements
"@Optiontradingod do you have access to the logs of your node is the transaction actually accepted into the mempool are you running any custom mempool policies"
X Link 2026-01-20T04:41Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements
"ofc hash based sigs are viable as shown recently we can combine them with XMSS to make them even smaller and fall back to the full security mode when needed: FIPS [---] is a standard and even in the lattice realm there's a lot of active research ongoing to extend the schemes for things we take for granted w/ schnorr signatures BIP [---] discussion is on going there's active review it's just an output type lots more there w/ active initiatives https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/shrincs-324-byte-stateful-post-quantum-signatures-with-static-backups/2158"
X Link 2026-02-03T20:32Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@SomsenRuben @blk014 @EdanYago @lightcoin @SovrynBTC auctions also don't require necessarily global state see Pool as an example: ofc you don't necessarily get AMM type functionality but you can get proper price discovery and an execution venue https://lightning.engineering/pool/ https://lightning.engineering/pool/"
X Link 2022-09-29T20:37Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements
"waay back in [----] I designed the L402 protocol to solve authentication+payments on the web for machines 🤖 - flash forward to [----] and now the machines are intelligent kicking off a new era of personal AI agents with the latest advancements in AI the L402 protocol is more relevant than ever today we're releasing a suite of CLIs skills and MCP servers to enable agents to securely transact on the web ⚡ https://lightning.engineering/posts/2020-03-30-lsat/ AI agents can write code send emails and make phone calls. But they still can't transact. Today we're fixing that. Releasing a new set of"
X Link 2026-02-11T19:35Z 42.1K followers, 23.5K engagements
"a wild nested musig2 implementation appears: 🤓🤯 https://github.com/btcsuite/btcd/pull/2481 A little something I've been working on for a while: https://t.co/lnE4f5hvwu https://github.com/btcsuite/btcd/pull/2481 A little something I've been working on for a while: https://t.co/lnE4f5hvwu"
X Link 2026-02-13T02:31Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements
"@stevenroose3 also I remember in Austin I asked you: if connectors are even needed at all and why it can't just be adapter sigs or something -- seems you ran with that idea after all"
X Link 2026-02-12T21:39Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"needs another impl to start to make test vectors ofc but testing is fairly comprehensive working mainly off the paper's formal description w/o a proper spec/BIP yet one small thing I noticed is that the paper flips the order of the args to H(noncecoef *) vs BIP 327"
X Link 2026-02-13T02:33Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@NicolasDorier why so hyperbolic actual routing nodes will still run full nodes this about reaching a wider audience that runs on phones+laptops if you don't think light clients should be improved at all then ok don't get in the way of those that want to on-board more users to LN"
X Link 2019-01-19T18:29Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements
"@NicolasDorier if there're no p2p solutions for LN for this userbase then they'll use custodial wallets (as unfortunately they already are) is that a better route"
X Link 2019-01-19T18:30Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements
"waaayyy too excited launch Lightning Pool: A Non-Custodial Channel Lease Marketplace ⚡ check out my blog post where I do a deep dive into the architecture of the system: we're also dropping a white paper in addition to live code: https://lightning.engineering/lightning-pool-whitepaper.pdf https://lightning.engineering/posts/2020-11-02-pool-deep-dive/ https://lightning.engineering/lightning-pool-whitepaper.pdf https://lightning.engineering/posts/2020-11-02-pool-deep-dive/"
X Link 2020-11-02T16:24Z 40.7K followers, [---] engagements
"@BitcoinErrorLog Offers is an invoice negotiation protocol so it competes with stuff like ln-url which is pretty widely used AMP is the successor to keysend it supports sharded payments and a way to do static invoices they aren't at odds one is an e2e update the other is a network update"
X Link 2021-06-24T17:30Z 40.6K followers, [--] engagements
"is a programmable VPS platform where you can have any instance for [--] sats per hour. with⚡ developers no longer need to give away email credit card information or other sensitive information for API access just stream some sats n go 😎🏄🏾 #bitcoin http://bitclouds.sh I want more APIs like this: https://t.co/1jirtlmoHi drop some sats get a service done. http://bitclouds.sh I want more APIs like this: https://t.co/1jirtlmoHi drop some sats get a service done"
X Link 2021-08-23T22:12Z 41.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@JustinMoon LDK or bitcoinj amarite 😏"
X Link 2022-04-14T02:31Z 42.1K followers, [--] engagements
"on the protocol side this release includes support for zero conf + scid alias channels these can be enabled with two new flags: --protocol.option-scid-alias=true and --protocol.zero-conf=true"
X Link 2022-08-31T18:32Z 41.1K followers, [--] engagements
"@rusty_twit @callebtc @Snyke yeh I know aj has some schemes to do that tho imo symmetry is the way to go for anything where N [--] eltoo really shines for multi-party stuff (swapping utxos coin pools etc) the sequencing also naturally creates a 3rd party verifiable audit log as well"
X Link 2023-02-23T02:17Z 41.2K followers, [---] engagements
"@rusty_twit @callebtc @Snyke personally I'm more excited about the expansion in multi-party contract primitives eltoo introduces (not to mention just no_input itself) than the LN use case tho ofc that'll be nice to eventually have in some form for easier mobile node backups"
X Link 2023-02-23T02:23Z 41.1K followers, [---] engagements
"I think covenants will also allow us to deploy a practical version of interactive game CommitChains for Bitcoin: Merkleize All The Things is based on a similar concept"
X Link 2023-05-24T05:04Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements
"@Thinkingoutlaw @CryptoChrisG they can already do that w/o covenants just like they don't need KYC integration at the protocol level to enforce it and they have blacklists you're the one that makes the addr to recv to so you opt into a covenant or not covenants can't "infect" your other coins"
X Link 2023-05-25T19:58Z 40K followers, [--] engagements
"SF Bitcoin devs ecosystem on the cusp of a revival 🌉 I can feeeeeeeel it #CanYouFeelItMrKrabs"
X Link 2023-06-10T00:36Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements
"@rusty_twit @callebtc @4moonsettler imo the difference is if the covenant allows "partial application" or not CTV-esque covenants don't allow partial application as you must bind the entire transaction graph ahead of time covenants that permit taking part of their input from the stack allow partial application"
X Link 2023-07-11T00:49Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@rusty_twit @callebtc @4moonsettler eg: the two of us can get together and make a coin flip contract with CTV we take in all our inputs (pay out key commitment used for flip) then make the tx graph and put the hash on the contract that required comms between you and I to exchange params then broadcast"
X Link 2023-07-11T00:49Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@vinibarbosabr @lucasdcf @ambosstech correct services like Loop let a node operator manage their liquidity (be able to receive or send more) without closing/opening new channels capacity stays the same liquidity shifts or becomes available"
X Link 2023-08-16T17:20Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements
"@rusty_twit @jamesob @ajtowns so then you just gotta make the delays as large as you're comfortable with knowing that in the end you still need to "win" the auction to get into a block to get away from the optimistic stuff you gotta go w/ zkps so nothing gets in unless it can be proved to be valid"
X Link 2023-08-19T02:37Z 40.6K followers, [----] engagements
"@rusty_twit @jamesob @ajtowns I think covenants help tho as you can use them to guarantee future unfurling and then make decisions at each exit point w.r.t what should exit vs passed thru to the next state in the end only so many bytes per year can be added to the chain if flexy block size then diff"
X Link 2023-08-19T02:38Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements
"back at BPASE where the promise of #STARKs was first unveiled many moons ago. extremely impressed with the amount of theoretical and practical progress over the past few years"
X Link 2023-08-29T00:51Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements
"in the future splicing can be used to add/remove assets to/from a channel push payments can also be supported via a push of an "unsolicited quote""
X Link 2023-09-06T19:54Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"importantly these types of channels are 100% optional those that don't update to open/accept this new channel type continue to operate as normal potentially seeing additional transactional volume across the Bitcoin Backbone due to the new activity at the edges"
X Link 2023-09-06T19:54Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements
"back when I used to tweet some srs bangers"
X Link 2023-09-09T05:01Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements
"the mad lads at @ZeroSync_ have done it 🪄 instant light client sync they've created a batched/recursive/incremental STARK proof for Bitcoin's block headers: a single 1.4KB proof (independent of # of headers) to verify all headers PoW etc 🤯"
X Link 2023-09-09T19:54Z 39.9K followers, 115.9K engagements
"what if I told you.that LLM platform APIs don't need to rate limit for paying customers what if.you could simply pay them directly using HTTP [---] and a low cost decentralized open access payment network all 100% programmatic L402 is the 🔑:"
X Link 2023-10-03T18:17Z 40K followers, 23.1K engagements
"@peterktodd co-op tx signals RBF now so a new version of co-op close being designed by @rusty_twit can let ppl update fees at any time rn ppl are forced to CPFP if co-op close fee is too low rn we don't signal RBF on the protocol level as you can't safely RBF the funding tx w/o no_input"
X Link 2023-10-05T17:10Z 40K followers, [---] engagements
"@peterktodd a staging feature bit is used rn tho so we can change things based on interop testing feedback real world usage etc -- before we stamp the final feature bit"
X Link 2023-10-05T17:13Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@super_testnet @rot13maxi @robin_linus @BobMcElrath I think you could just use a channel with the relevant funds then setting up a new ZKCP as an HTLC variant for cairo VM programs the program can also output something which is verified correct an off chain multisig covenant may be able to bind to that as state each iteration"
X Link 2023-10-09T21:47Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@super_testnet @rot13maxi @robin_linus @BobMcElrath re commit in advance my thinking is you'd put the funds in a channel then each round you make new states that commit to that given round a side then proves "I did the next chess move correctly" or w/e you also want some inactivity penalty see that MPC w/ penalties paper"
X Link 2023-10-09T22:09Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@super_testnet @rot13maxi @robin_linus @BobMcElrath starknet has frameworks for probable game engines: maybe useful for the above ideas"
X Link 2023-10-09T22:10Z 40K followers, [---] engagements
"@stonecoldpat0 @n1ckler I think if you can get rid of the pre-signing for the challenge/response then it becomes pretty flexible (still ignoring all the bandwidth over head) likely needs a covenant since then party A can commit to the circuit+result then anyone can go to challenge w/ matched bond"
X Link 2023-10-11T03:07Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@stonecoldpat0 @n1ckler at that point very similar design paradigm to arbitrum/truebit still lots to be filled in tho"
X Link 2023-10-11T03:07Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@edwargix @jamesob ppl rightfully love that we have multiple LN impls (even combative at times) has enabled innovation on LN both software+protocol yet for bitcoin nodes they lose that energy mo competition will make bitcoin stronger admittedly btcd doesn't have resources rn to compete srsly"
X Link 2023-10-11T18:27Z 40K followers, [--] engagements
"@lqdbtc @benma @jamesob they are: just about everything Lightning Labs builds uses these libraries: rust didn't invent the concept of libraries lol go tooling is on par or better than cargo imo great profiling/testing/benchmarking tools"
X Link 2023-10-11T18:32Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements
"@theinstagibbs idk imo generally it's pretty fragile let's say the attacker goes directly to miner so you don't see it in "the" mempool you as the honest party then presumably have your tx broadcast more widely than the attacker so then the attacker's replacement isn't widely accepted"
X Link 2023-10-18T00:45Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@theinstagibbs if yours is more widely broadcast and is also fee bumping based on the deadline if blocks are clearing at the target fee rate then very likely your tx gets confirmed unless the attacker is colluding w/ a pool that has a very high hash rate at that point censor justice txns"
X Link 2023-10-18T00:46Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@MBerger47 anyone can run one of these servers can think of it as an index the maps on chain data like a txid or outpoint to off-chain data like a new asset being created or sent we'll have more guides out on this soon"
X Link 2023-10-18T18:28Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"sooo excited to finally release the first version of taproot assets that supports Bitcoin's mainnet tapd v0.3.0-alpha works w/ the neutrino light client so users don't need to maintain [---] TB+ of data to be able to verify and interact with assets 😎 Announcing the first mainnet release of Taproot Assets 🥕 a protocol for assets on #bitcoin and Lightning. With this release developers can issue financial assets on-chain in a scalable manner. 💱 Today marks a new era of multi-asset bitcoin. 🌅 https://t.co/2cNvZSvv8v Announcing the first mainnet release of Taproot Assets 🥕 a protocol for assets"
X Link 2023-10-18T18:33Z 40.6K followers, 69K engagements
"under the hood all asset state transitions map down to a 1-in-1-out Bitcoin txn this means that existing sighash flags signing tooling etc can all be re-used here's an example of how to use SIGHASH_NONE for non-custodial non-interactive swaps: https://github.com/lightninglabs/taproot-assets/issues/577 https://github.com/lightninglabs/taproot-assets/issues/577"
X Link 2023-10-18T18:37Z 40.6K followers, [----] engagements
"taproot assets makes it very easy to #RunTheNumbers via its proof file format and also Universes which serves as distribution and archiving mechanisms for off-chain data users use a Universe to boostrap verification for new assets verifiers only need the Bitcoin block headers"
X Link 2023-10-18T18:38Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"anyone can run a Universe server and also federate with other servers they use a tree-based bisection protocol to sync relevant data each server maintains a root hash of a tree of trees using sum trees for ez auditing here's our testnet server:"
X Link 2023-10-18T18:40Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements
"users can interact with Universe servers via gRPC or directly via REST: these APIs will serve as the basis for future explorers here's an example to look up the issuance tx+proof for an asset:"
X Link 2023-10-18T18:42Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements
"@TheBlueMatt @benediktbuenz also many chains these days don't use a p2p network for txn broadcast instead ppl submit directly to a centralized RPC API there're first class APIs to pay a miner for mining a block template so le class of attack is more direct I can pay miner to not mine rollup dispute"
X Link 2023-10-21T22:19Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements
"@robin_linus @renepickhardt @brqgoo what's the latest state of ark dev any PoC yet do we have better bounds on mechanics of the unroll mechanism amt of info that needs to be sent to the recvr even w/ the non-interactive version or capital requirements at scale ofc covenants design space is yuge beyond ark"
X Link 2023-11-19T22:13Z 40K followers, [----] engagements
"@robin_linus @rusty_twit @reardencode imo channels will always be amazing and hard to beat for low cost + low latency transfers truly payments as packets pure p2p and a great tool in the toolkit"
X Link 2023-11-20T01:00Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@robin_linus @rusty_twit @reardencode in the end: mo solutions mo betta conditional transfers (atomic swaps) can always be used for interop"
X Link 2023-11-20T03:36Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@SomsenRuben cool thx for confirming now circling back to CTV -- frequently see ppl say that: "CTV makes Ark non-interactive" based on the above protocol flow and it occurs to me that: in order to agree on the new UTXO even w/ CTV all the recipients in a round need exchange pubkey info"
X Link 2023-11-21T01:29Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@SomsenRuben re the sender updating their claim that seems to introduce a new double spending vector: I don't think it affects final correctness of the protocol tho as receiver shouldn't take things as "final" until the new txn hits the chain"
X Link 2023-11-21T20:41Z 40K followers, [---] engagements
"@SomsenRuben mhmm tho I think w/ a small tweak to the way ppl thing about LN on boarding they're more similar ark gives off-chain on boarding essentially by swapping for a UTXO on chain that will eventually exist so there's an on-chain transaction but the cost can (maybe) be shared"
X Link 2023-11-21T20:42Z 40K followers, [--] engagements
"@MTorgin @p0stc4p0n3 @GwartyGwart @0xz80 @lightcoin @robin_linus @dr_orlovsky sure. my point is intra block ordering in Bitcoin is much stricter which eliminates a lot of common MEV vectors you don't have global state and transactions that can touch/modify global state all state is effectively local (UTXOs ref'd)"
X Link 2023-11-28T18:43Z 40K followers, [--] engagements
"@SomsenRuben I think you'd also have a similar thing with "pure" Ark assuming that any of the created outputs end up directly being channels one mental model I've started to warm up to is essentially: Ark as the channel factory control module"
X Link 2023-11-29T00:04Z 40K followers, [--] engagements
"@0x_orkun @ercwl not sure what you're saying is incorrect: that LN is the only decentralized layer two or you need to be running a roll up full node to safely interact with it running the full node means you need to execute for zk execution is validation but still extra costs beyond chain"
X Link 2023-12-10T21:59Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements
"@0x_orkun @ercwl correct that you can reduce to a light client if the validity proofs also extend to entire block validation as well afaik no one has implemented all that yet (how many steps or a fully loaded block) ZeroSync is obvs dope but it's only at the header level rn"
X Link 2023-12-10T22:01Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements
"@lightcoin cool post how do you define "can directly onboard to the protocol" also "Bitcoin-grade double-spend resistance" is in the matrix but not elaborated upon anywhere may also be useful to contrast the theoretical ideal arch of validia stuff vs what's impl'd today (L2beat lvls)"
X Link 2023-12-13T23:56Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@lightcoin at the end you say validity rollups offer a more efficient use of block space but imo that's not the case since each txn results in additional marginal bytes on chain whereas w/ channels you can transfer w/o marginal bytes on chain"
X Link 2023-12-13T23:57Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@lightcoin one thing I'm still trying to grasp also what the worst case of "validate entire network" state can mean for a verifying client iiuc to exit the client needs to post a merkle proof path to the latest root w/ their leaf in the worst case doing that requires all leaves"
X Link 2023-12-14T00:00Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@amasad just gimmie the signal and I'll parachute into the Replit office w/ my boi @kodylow plus some boba for the squad (w/ taro option ofc) so we can make this happen 🫡"
X Link 2023-12-22T03:06Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements
"several years in the making I'm excited to announce the release of btcd v0.24: this release includes many bug fixes important security fixes (update) pruning support and many optimizations reducing chain sync time from [--] hours+ (days) to [--] hours"
X Link 2023-12-31T02:37Z 39.9K followers, 31.4K engagements
"@beeforbacon1 @benthecarman to do it you need a notion of what came "first" as they're all based on both a time window for the txn and also a max amt that can be created current impl is just: post a JSON blob in the chain then scan them all to figure out the final ordering"
X Link 2023-12-31T20:01Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements
"@beeforbacon1 @benthecarman this is super easy to do but you need a full node potentially on top of another index that's close to [---] GB (tho new ones just ignore ordinals and add new meaning) none of the participants run the node so it's all on a few sites w/ those sites being the only actual winners"
X Link 2023-12-31T20:02Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements
"@LarryBitcoin @Suheb__ @JWWeatherman_ @nitesh_btc very reasonable stance agree we aren't there today (efforts have moved beyond test vectors and into behavioral checks with boundary edge cases) but would rather be on the side of advancing our knowledge to seek the truth of what Bitcoin really is at the software level"
X Link 2023-12-31T22:57Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@LarryBitcoin @Suheb__ @JWWeatherman_ @nitesh_btc could compare to ze capital expenditure (both human+monetary) that would be required to write something comparable to Google Chrome from scratch prob hundreds of millies of $'s if not billies today no one in Bitcoin ecosystem takes challenge nor existential risk seriously tho"
X Link 2023-12-31T23:08Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@LarryBitcoin @Suheb__ @JWWeatherman_ @nitesh_btc re risk I view it as inverse abs nat log function high risk w/ low capital investment but which starts to teeter off over time rn we're still somewhat early in the curve much mo work needed to move things to the right and down with that expenditure we all gain more freedom"
X Link 2023-12-31T23:46Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@JeremyRubin voted for #1 sapio/judica was too big brained for most to really grok imo"
X Link 2024-01-02T19:10Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@LukeDashjr that's not really a CVE but we both know that so won't hang on it but btcd never had a datacarrier config opt hasn't changed from [--] bytes but ofc what happened is that in your view the spirit of the policy became out of sync w/ the reality of impl not a vuln tho 🤷🏾♂"
X Link 2024-01-03T01:59Z [--] followers, [---] engagements
"@giacomozucco @benthecarman re the question: arguably some have from the very start tho as they were meant to restrict uses cases that developers didn't like or thought were a nuisance imo it's a losing battle: current bitcoind org doesn't have the propensity to modify policy in a significant manner"
X Link 2024-01-03T02:02Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@giacomozucco @benthecarman I think a given implementation reserves the right to add w/e policy they want either arbitrary or due to performance concerns I think there'd be a natural inflection point where if policy was too harmful users would revolt either with custom patches or moving to other impl"
X Link 2024-01-03T02:05Z [--] followers, [---] engagements
"@giacomozucco @benthecarman yeah interesting trend rn curious to see how far itgoes maybe a future where ppl just make+distribute policy patches that can apply directly to bitcoind the bitcoind software lineage is still kinda far away from having credible competition so instead make customization ez'er"
X Link 2024-01-03T02:13Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@AsherHopp @LukeDashjr luke is literally the only dev that thinks it's a CVE calling it one just serves to dilute the meaning of the term bitcoin full nodes store the chain the chain is full of valid transactions those valid transaction might have other data at most call it unintended usage"
X Link 2024-01-03T04:53Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@AsherHopp @LukeDashjr but it literally does not matter honey badger don't give a fuck this is such an inconsequential non-battle this isn't gonna kill Bitcoin Bitcoin hasn't even noticed tick-tock next block I assure you this is NOT the hill you wanna die on"
X Link 2024-01-03T04:54Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@cryptodavidw ah with a broader definition Liquid launched in [----] LN mainnet was [----] ish but if expanding to a more general def then throw in: early colored coins mastercoin counterparty etc those were the original forms of "embedded consensus" that ordinal related protocols use hoy"
X Link 2024-01-05T21:00Z [--] followers, [--] engagements
"@Leishman yup: also as mentioned later in that thread Bitcoin's schnorr is bespoke @provoost @peterktodd the MPC approach also has an advantage of supporting off chain key rotation/revocation as well fwiw they have the guy that made the OG ECDSA MPC scheme (Lindell) so even tho have had issues it seems to work for them for all their other coins @provoost @peterktodd the MPC approach also has an advantage of supporting off chain key rotation/revocation as well fwiw they have the guy that made the OG ECDSA MPC scheme (Lindell) so even tho have had issues it seems to work for them for all their"
X Link 2024-01-24T23:52Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@rodarmor why are signet coins hard to get you can just make your own for w/e custom dev needs you have I think we need a diff term for signet the network concept vs w/e ppl few as the "default" version"
X Link 2024-01-30T00:30Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@diwakergupta you can get that all just by running litd: from another view you get a full suite of battle tested on+off-chain APIs along the way eg: LN atomic HTLC swaps for on-chain assets"
X Link 2024-01-30T03:10Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@diwakergupta imo important to note that for Ordinals in order to trustlessly validate and interact with the protocol you need the [---] GB+ Bitcoin chain and also the ord index (expensive to generate and I think also [--] GB+ at theoretical min) w/ TAP you just need bitocin headers (66 MB)"
X Link 2024-01-30T03:13Z 39.9K followers, [--] engagements
"@FinancierLord @fede_intern @muratkun @0x_myilmaz @Artsteiin @0x_orkun @ekrembal_ iiuc no you get sort of an accountable bridge but it doesn't enable unilateral exit committee can stall indefinitely () also unsure re recovery (after verification game goes on chain must the whole thing tear down)"
X Link 2024-02-06T20:16Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@FinancierLord @fede_intern @muratkun @0x_myilmaz @Artsteiin @0x_orkun @ekrembal_ from what I've seen ppl grok the circuit and mapping aspects but not yet how the actual execution of the circuit works it's basically a distributed MPC to run the verification circuit across binding Bitcoin transactions similar to Yao's garbled circuits not no privacy req"
X Link 2024-02-06T20:17Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@ercwl yee peeping that some code sections relevant to my q's to get a grasp on the relationship between gates+wires and total bandwidth: then also need to factor in wire preimages and sigs sent I think [--] B cycles not gates tho"
X Link 2024-02-06T20:55Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@ercwl the part I'm looking forward to the most is ppl impl'ing the on chain verification game I think at that point the misconception the "LN is sooo complex" will start to melt away today it's hard to reliably publish + fee bump two dep txns 100s or 1000s run into direct limits"
X Link 2024-02-06T21:55Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"@benthecarman good question.maybe I think there were some past hotfix releases that didn't have any actual commits by me (aside from merge commits or version bumps)"
X Link 2024-02-07T23:07Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"IMMA LET Y'ALL FINISH BUT THE LIGHTNING NETWORK IS THE ONLY DECENTRALIZED L2 IN PRODUCTION 🏆 NOT JUST ON BITCOIN IN EXISTENCE 🌐 YO MULTI-SIG AIN'T AN L2 🚫 YO CENTRALIZED SEQUENCER AIN'T AN L2 🚫 IF IT AIN'T OPEN ACCESS W/ TRUSTLESS UNILATERAL EXIT IT AIN'T AN L2 🙅🏾♂"
X Link 2024-02-15T21:25Z 40.6K followers, 49.2K engagements
"@publiusbtc I'm personally cookin' up some stuff myself to dramatically lower on boarding costs in high fee envs and the components are starting to fall into place now to help w/ mobile interactivity but ultimately that's dependent on reliable cross-platform mobile wake up"
X Link 2024-02-15T22:53Z 40K followers, [----] engagements
"two things jumped out at me in this post: [--]. fundamental misunderstanding of how payments work in a flow network like LN [--]. a missed opportunity (or lack of capability of Ordinals compared to something like Taproot Assets) to deploy an off-chain auction w/ on-chain delivery laser-eye maxis are mad at @brian_armstrong because he tweeted that paying merchants with L1 BTC has a poor UX so coinbase no longer supports that. guess what hes right how do i know because at @TaprootWizards were one of the largest BTC merchants on the planet. this https://t.co/Hj8e0J5nB1 laser-eye maxis are mad at"
X Link 2024-02-19T20:37Z 40K followers, 55.6K engagements
"here's how you can make a trustless auction on/off-chain using Taproot Assets Lightning and submarine swaps all bidding is done off-chain via HTLCs assets delivered on-chain via an atomic swap 100% verifiable light client friendly and batchable onchain #alphaleak next let's check out how a hybrid off/on-chain auction can work that doesn't have any issues w.r.t refunds or underbids etc etc for the example I'll assume Taproot Assets is being used as in inherits all the Scripting capabilities of Bitcoin UTXOs (assets are UTXOs) next let's check out how a hybrid off/on-chain auction can work that"
X Link 2024-02-19T20:57Z 41.8K followers, 11.2K engagements
"@udiWertheimer @TaprootWizards all a matter of tradeoffs in the end 🤷♀ have some cool TAP demos w/ stuff like this released 🔜 base simplicity of ordinals is attractive (ignoring no light client compat) but imo just putting asset directly in UTXO frees up a lot from le design space perceptive (composition)"
X Link 2024-02-19T22:16Z 40K followers, [---] engagements
"@matthewjablack I think of it as a pre-commitment for the auction no need to worry about bid spoofing or w/e as the bid is itself the HTLC if you don't wanna give the seller the ability to initiate then you can add an ochestrator for the auction and it'll end up looking a lot like Pool"
X Link 2024-02-20T04:42Z 40K followers, [--] engagements
"@matthewjablack if you compare to the design in the QT which is literally just: send me the BTC and I promise to send you the goods I'd say this construct is a strict improvement (atomic trust minimized)"
X Link 2024-02-20T04:45Z 40K followers, [---] engagements
"@RussellOkung I dey good o I think you're right that today they don't necessarily care about the security+decentralization angle they just want something that'll let them transact easily w/o being beholden to the old masters (banks etc)"
X Link 2024-02-20T21:16Z 40K followers, [--] engagements
"@RussellOkung we've written a bit about the end state and our vision as we see it here: many years ago I was super skeptical about stablecoins in general never thought they'd last etc -- but over time all our major users and customers kept demanding it"
X Link 2024-02-20T21:20Z 40K followers, [---] engagements
"@RussellOkung over time I updated my views based on the state of the market (in the past Bitcoin was the crossing point for everything then stable coins changed that) and also the user feedback we got from several angles"
X Link 2024-02-20T21:22Z 40K followers, [---] engagements
"@brian_trollz @RyanTheGentry @BitcoinMagazine Users of the L2 must be capable of exiting the system through a mechanism that returns unilateral control of their funds on Layer [--] how does Liquid achieve that if functionaries blacklist you or just don't sign (KYC required IIRC) you can't unilaterally exit"
X Link 2024-02-21T20:29Z 40K followers, [----] engagements
"@Chris_Stewart_5 I think that's diff you totally don't want to have to implement stuff like sliding window wNAF methods in script with field arithmetic that stuff is hard to get right even in a higher level language I'm thinking OP_EC_ADD and OP_EC_MUL"
X Link 2024-02-22T19:53Z 40K followers, [---] engagements
"@Chris_Stewart_5 on the other hand arithmetic op codes could be used to implement a lot of other stuff w/o needing to commit to a new cryptosystem bundled within Script"
X Link 2024-02-22T20:21Z 40K followers, [---] engagements
"@tierotiero @ajtowns yep don't disagree re non-interactive is also the case that 100% of this stuff is just using some custodial wallet via a web app (since to run properly you need like [---] GB+ of disk space for chain + indexes no light client support w/ ordinals) so provider can run le LN node"
X Link 2024-03-05T23:36Z 40K followers, [--] engagements
"@theinstagibbs @niftynei I guess the UX/interop gains from a dev/app perspective is so gud that ppl don't care about le "trust me bro" security model also in order to keep up w/ a roll up you need to actually run le full node (+ D/L all blks) but no one does that either so they just accept w/e state"
X Link 2024-03-19T19:53Z 39.9K followers, [---] engagements
"on the contrary reducing the block size to say [---] KB would do more to price out "normal" users than those that seek to create speculative games out of gorilla jpegs or w/e if fees were 100x where they are today many transactional uses cases may fall out but ppl with house money to spend on gorilla jpegs would persist"
X Link 2024-04-12T23:49Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements
"just snagged the last ticket (at this tier) via LN the $400 payment (600k sats) was completed in [---] seconds w/ a 0.07% fee (7 bps $0.29 actual) routed thru the network via [--] hops ⚡ but noooo "LN is dead" 😱 /s the only other payment system on Earth that would've been faster+cheaper would be me directly putting some dollarydoos in someone's hand (not accounting for travel costs 😝) we're almost sold out of the second to last ticket tier for @btcplusplus Save yourself some sats and snag one of the last ones at this price https://t.co/Se8Os6vp9A https://t.co/6nU0Fp31WM we're almost sold out"
X Link 2024-04-15T21:23Z 39.9K followers, 39.7K engagements
"is there a plaintext write up for those of us w/ enough braincells that can understand prose w/o extra doodles from what I understand the premise sketched out isn't correct: OP_CAT along cannot arbitrarily restrict a taproot output script as it can't compute P+(t*G) by itself so it's restricted to only constraining that an output script is the same as one of the input scripts the extra functionality required to arbitraily constraint taproot outputs is exactly what OP_CHECKCONTRACTVERIFY by itself does so you want that and OP_CAT cc @salvatoshi @johanth"
X Link 2024-04-15T22:42Z 39.9K followers, [----] engagements
"BIP [---] (Ancestor Package Relay) has been merged into the BIP repo ancestor package relay is a fundamental upgrade to Bitcoin's p2p transaction relay network that enables nodes to effectively propagate sets of dependent transactions today if you have A - B - C but fee rate of A+B is too low C can't bump A+B as nodes forgot about them -- package relay fixes this this boosts the effectiveness of fee bumping techniques such as CPFP and will serve to increase the security of off-chain protocols like LN check out @bitcoinoptech's page on the topic for more info: congrats to @glozow and all the"
X Link 2024-04-24T22:24Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements
"ofc beebufx are worthless on the other hand once stablecoins 💸 are lifted into Taproot Asset channels a new network effect flywheel will begin to turn 🔄⚡💸🌎"
X Link 2024-05-02T16:05Z 40.2K followers, [----] engagements
"@LisandroIaffar @guggero @jonhbit @dstadulis check out our docs here: https://docs.lightning.engineering/lightning-network-tools/taproot-assets https://docs.lightning.engineering/lightning-network-tools/taproot-assets"
X Link 2024-05-09T18:32Z 40.5K followers, [---] engagements
"@p2pfiat the first hop sends a beefbux HTLC the last hop receives a beefbux HTLC in the middle a normal BTC HTLC is used to bind the transfer"
X Link 2024-05-10T18:15Z 40.5K followers, [--] engagements
"@p2pfiat not really a DLC oracle can just lie also if they never reveal information then a contract cannot settle DLC oracles by definition are a trusted third party the main innovation was making them oblivious this on the other hand just relies on market forces"
X Link 2024-05-10T18:51Z 40.5K followers, [--] engagements
"@p2pfiat DLC certainly does have its uses tho the tradeoff is the collateral needed to allow sufficient varied payouts in the contract (if not enough gains/losses can't be realized) and relying on oracle reveal"
X Link 2024-05-10T18:53Z 40.5K followers, [---] engagements
"continuing Taproot Asset channel szn. 🌻 I'm excited announce the first mainnet asset swap w/ Taproot Asset channels 🥕⚡ in this demo we've simplified our topology to: Zane -beefbux channel- Yara -BTC Channel- Carol so we only have a single asset channel connecting Zane to Yara Carol is a normal unupgraded node on the network with a normal BTC invoice Zane is able to pay Carol's BTC invoice by swapping his beefbux for BTC on the fly using the edge RFQ forwarding+negotiation system ⛓🔃 ⚡ I'm excited announce the first mainnet multi-hop asset payment w/ Taproot Asset channels 🥕⚡ in this"
X Link 2024-05-16T18:18Z 40.5K followers, 95.9K engagements
"have you read some of the code out there the bulk of it is critical primitives that relay on OP_CAT that can only be made more efficient via very specific op codes (eg: merkle tree verify hash into transcript etc) eg here's merkle tree validation: PoW verification (it'll be a Bitcoin specific STARK so can actually re-use Bitcoin PoW to bolster bits of security): hashing for fiat-shamir channel: polynomial commitment opening: https://github.com/Bitcoin-Wildlife-Sanctuary/bitcoin-circle-stark/blob/a1198601f5180a3de0ae31f64a3ee978fc01bd52/src/twiddle_merkle_tree/bitcoin_script.rs#L23-L94"
X Link 2024-06-04T20:07Z 40.5K followers, 10.9K engagements
"@ian__major how are you comparing privacy ark server knows all sender+dest ecash server knows notes are being refreshed (tor usage) but not necessarily the identities both can halt all transfers by going inactive but tbh lot of things better than centralized mints w/ easy rug access"
X Link 2024-06-08T21:16Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"ah gotcha well I guess that's kinda the beauty of primitives that allow for permissionless innovation: lots to explore still but yeh with the "caboose" technique you can thread thru state across transactions into a state machine needs some extra interaction but then the script can select an entire P2TR key (but not leaf selection) to carry on"
X Link 2024-07-17T19:26Z 40.5K followers, [---] engagements
"if you're doing global state w/o a Chia-like UTXO model (where you can ref a contract with a stable ID instead of pure UTXO and don't need to ref the entire script in a block) then you can't do concurrent access in a block so everything needs to be batched I think focusing on AMMs is a red herring not saying ppl won't use them or that they won't exist but that they'll have a very diff UX than on other chains we already have ppl buying out entire blocks for meme purposes ascribing extra protocol value to satoshis taking advantage of poorly designed dollar auction protocols same goes for those"
X Link 2024-07-18T19:15Z 40.5K followers, [---] engagements
"today we're excited to announce the mainnet release of end-to-end Taproot Assets integration w/ the Lightning Network 💱🌐⚡ with this release the Lightning Network evolves into a global currency agnostic payment layer all backed by #Bitcoin Backbone of the network 🚊 Announcing the first mainnet release of multi-asset Lightning. 💱⚡ With Taproot Assets users can make instant low fee asset transfers bringing trillions of stablecoin volume to #bitcoin. Lightning is now the global interoperable financial layer. 🌐 https://t.co/AHCBpEEO3i Announcing the first mainnet release of multi-asset"
X Link 2024-07-23T17:52Z 42.1K followers, 43.5K engagements
"@ElectrumWallet @tierotiero @callebtc was a conversation amongst some devs at @BitcoinSeoulCon after a talk focused on improving the Electrum protocol perhaps it was a distinction between ElectrumX and Electrum"
X Link 2024-07-25T17:40Z 40.5K followers, [---] engagements
"@tierotiero @darosior @callebtc @ElectrumWallet what extra stuff does verbose fetching send"
X Link 2024-07-25T17:43Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@Chris_Stewart_5 @BaiduApollo I think @comma_ai is the OG: https://github.com/commaai/openpilot https://github.com/commaai/openpilot"
X Link 2024-08-01T16:20Z 40.5K followers, [---] engagements
"@MichaelLevin @fede_intern if ppl revive the old btcrelay project then they'd be able to set up the contract s.t it's able to verify provable burns on the Taproot Asset side to programmatically disburse funds on the other side https://lightning.engineering/api-docs/api/taproot-assets/taproot-assets/burn-asset http://btcrelay.org/ https://lightning.engineering/api-docs/api/taproot-assets/taproot-assets/burn-asset http://btcrelay.org/"
X Link 2024-08-08T21:09Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@MichaelLevin @fede_intern I don't know enough about the latest architecture re ETH light clients are pertains to the beacon chain PoS weak subjectivity etc etc but assuming you just hard code some committee public key then in theory post OP_CAT the reverse is also possible tho may not be cheap"
X Link 2024-08-08T21:10Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@ElectrumWallet @tierotiero @callebtc @BitcoinSeoulCon re clients not fetching/verifying stumbled onto this set of release notes: so before this they didn't also fetch the merkle proofs to verify https://bitcoindevkit.org/blog/_2024-q2-update/ https://bitcoindevkit.org/blog/_2024-q2-update/"
X Link 2024-08-13T22:44Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@fede_intern @class_lambda @gleamlang how's Gleam stack up to Elixir"
X Link 2024-08-19T01:40Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@matthewjablack there's no negotiation only the creator of the channel can trigger updates in this case the responder didn't like it so chose to force close alternatively they could've waited a few blocks for the dust to settle with pkg relay the commitment txn can be zero fee"
X Link 2024-08-22T22:53Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"then you use cpfp to bump when you go to broadcast anchor is a part of it yes it lets them only need to target getting into the mempool not the next block but the mempool has a min fee if that rises to high then the commitment txn won't propagate pkg relay means we can always propagate"
X Link 2024-08-22T22:55Z 40.6K followers, [--] engagements
"@karpathy the future is here but not yet evenly distributed: using the Lightning Network today we can programmatically send values as small as $0.00006 over the Internet instantly avoiding all the friction that comes w/ high txn costs w/ traditional payments https://l402.org/ https://l402.org/"
X Link 2024-08-27T20:43Z 40.6K followers, 43.8K engagements
"@matthewjablack ark doesn't work well for small payments: each transaction set requires an on chain transaction vtxos need to be large enough to create on chain vtxos are fixed denom they must also pay txn fees directly out of the output then add on the unknown service provider fee"
X Link 2024-08-28T00:17Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@matthewjablack imo ecash is just an entry in someone else's db.if that goes poof so does w/e money you think you have I think there're lots of low hanging fruit re off chain channel onboarding to reduce onboarding costs"
X Link 2024-08-28T00:25Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@theinstagibbs @Ethan_Heilman @TheBlueMatt to facilitate progress all that's needed is discussion of ideas with an open mind and heterogeneous yet open dev/researcher groups lotta smart ppl out there myopic to short them"
X Link 2024-08-30T17:29Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@TheBlueMatt @theinstagibbs @Ethan_Heilman why not ppl should always be discussing all ideas and options imo from your PoV when's the right time to start discussing is the answer just a variant of: "it will be known" do you think we have tools today to materially increase the ability for users to self-custody"
X Link 2024-08-30T19:51Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"this is also a very useful tool for Bitcoin sidechains/bridges: you generate a STARK proof that some Bitcoin was sent to an addr that can only be unlocked via another STARK proof (possible w/ OP_CAT) the sidechain accepts that proof permits coins to be moved in the chain to go back to Bitcoin the sidechain suspends the coins again the user generates a STARK proof it was done correctly and uses that to unlock the OG Bitcoin w/ that you get trust minimized sidechains on Bitcoin w/o overloading consensus (no PoW awareness/sig needed) and w/o needing some committee/federation/sequencer prob ends"
X Link 2024-09-05T20:45Z 40.6K followers, [----] engagements
"such proofs can also help to improve the state of bitcoin self-custody via STARK based blind signers (needs actual ZK): https://x.com/salvatoshi/status/1831784866213720186 @BrandonR505 The use case I'm thinking about is approximating a blind cosigner that is a service that would sign a sighash if certain properties of the transaction (agreed beforehand) are true. So nothing is on-chain proof generation and verification are all off-chain. https://x.com/salvatoshi/status/1831784866213720186 @BrandonR505 The use case I'm thinking about is approximating a blind cosigner that is a service that"
X Link 2024-09-05T20:46Z 40.6K followers, [----] engagements
"@lightcoin @dario_nakamoto @ellipticurve what I meant by that above is that a sequencer in the roll up landscape (single server handling all the ordering) isn't prescribed by the design your sidechain may have one ofc but that's independent of the bridging mechanism"
X Link 2024-09-06T20:22Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@glozow @theinstagibbs @realtbast gotcha how can a keyless anchors even be secure only see data pushes for the witness there wouldn't this introduce new ways 3rd parties can interfere w/ timely confirmation"
X Link 2024-09-12T17:41Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@theinstagibbs @glozow @realtbast is that even worth it tho based on my current knowledge I would say no musig2 chans give you savings as is just looking at the [--] party case we found tons of pinning edge cases why won't that expand surface area by allowing any party to interfere with conformation"
X Link 2024-09-12T18:18Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@benthecarman I think if an app uses some API to fetch/pay invoices then they can take advantage of it as you have all the context you need there (eg: we can use it w/ Loop Out) end user wallets are diff tho as there're coordination costs (which also exist today w/ BOLT 12)"
X Link 2024-09-16T23:18Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@n1ckler @liameagen @robin_linus so in order to keep up with the system all clients (ppl just keeping up or wanting to send/recv) need to download every Bitcoin block to scan for nullifiers perhaps it's possible to allow clients to only download just the nullifiers and a succinct proof re extraction"
X Link 2024-09-21T01:31Z 40.6K followers, [----] engagements
"@AdamBorco @n1ckler @liameagen @robin_linus it all just goes in Bitcoin so growth is bounded by block size limit"
X Link 2024-09-21T01:32Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@John_Ely_21m @reardencode @rot13maxi what I mean is that pure networks are possible but bootstrapping is difficult and no other asset has the strong network effects bitcoin has w/ current arch bitcoin will bridge heterogeneous assets using a decentralized payment network"
X Link 2024-09-28T03:30Z 40.6K followers, [--] engagements
"@thedavidcoen @bordalix @Yashraj__ imo end flow is pretty equiv lots of tools in the toolbox in the end which is great but I don't think ark solves this particular case better than existing options once you factor in forced exit costs (mo on chain mo delays)"
X Link 2024-09-28T12:33Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@blapta @robin_linus @renepickhardt systems like zkCoins/ShieldCSV do an impressive job at compressing amt of data that needs to be posted on chain for a txn (64 bytes) but ultimately there'll still be classes of payment sizes where the marginal cost is too high to use in an environment of sustained high fees"
X Link 2024-09-30T22:48Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@n1ckler @robin_linus @blapta @renepickhardt"
X Link 2024-10-01T06:54Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"@n1ckler @robin_linus @blapta @renepickhardt going back to the OP: as long as you care about the security or the currency of the mainchain you always need unilateral exit forced exit is a safety valve for side chain/L2 if you don't care about the security or currency of a base chain then u can use a one-way peg/burn"
X Link 2024-10-01T07:16Z 40.6K followers, [----] engagements
"@rot13maxi yup and that's ok if you don't need to worry about returning then you can shed a lot of design constraints along the way"
X Link 2024-10-01T18:21Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"⚠ attention lnd enjoyers ⚠ if you're updating to Bitcoin Core [----] then set the following flag to suppress a breaking RPC change that may prevent lnd from starting up: -deprecatedrpc=warnings otherwise I wouldn't hesitate to upgrade as this release contains some of the most consequential p2p updates for LN since segwit (1p1c and TRUC) the sooner full nodes update the sooner we can use the new features to make LN safer in high fee environments Bitcoin Core [----] includes support for testnet4 opportunistic one-parent-one-child (1p1c) package relay default relay TRUC transactions default relay of"
X Link 2024-10-06T15:53Z 40.6K followers, 26.2K engagements
"today we're releasing full details for CVE-2024-38365: CVE-2024-38365 describes a consensus bug introduced in btcd v0.10.0 (released May 2015) related to the dreaded OP_CODESEPARATOR opcode if you run btcd and haven't already upgrade to btcd v0.24.2 https://github.com/btcsuite/btcd/security/advisories/GHSA-27vh-h6mc-q6g8 https://github.com/btcsuite/btcd/security/advisories/GHSA-27vh-h6mc-q6g8"
X Link 2024-10-10T09:15Z 40.6K followers, [----] engagements
"for more details see the posted Github Security Advisory above as well as this post on Delving Bitcoin: https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/cve-2024-38365-public-disclosure-btcd-findanddelete-bug/1184/1 https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/cve-2024-38365-public-disclosure-btcd-findanddelete-bug/1184/1"
X Link 2024-10-10T09:15Z 40.6K followers, [---] engagements
"a few weeks ago 30+ Lightning devs+researchers from around the world gathered in Tokyo Japan to discuss the current state and evolution of the LN protocol ⚡ here's [----] artisanal human generated LLM free words summarizing the various discussions: https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/ln-summit-2024-notes-summary-commentary/1198 https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/ln-summit-2024-notes-summary-commentary/1198"
X Link 2024-10-16T01:15Z 40.6K followers, 25.3K engagements
"@robin_linus why are AMMs viewed as the boogeyman anything that enables on chain state machines can be used to impl it they leak MEV on ETH due to the account system itself: you can re-order transactions arbitrarily any contract can touch another invalid txns mined etc UTXOs are diff"
X Link 2024-10-28T22:56Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements
"@robin_linus [--] minute block times also means they'll suck UX wise: and inability to ref global state w/ UTXOs means they'd be inherently serial with only one txn interaction per block: https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1814016111341601167 https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1813989124883579005 @TheBlueMatt @niftynei @theinstagibbs if you're doing global state w/o a Chia-like UTXO model (where you can ref a contract with a stable ID instead of pure UTXO and don't need to ref the entire script in a block) then you can't do concurrent access in a block so everything needs to be batched I think focusing"
X Link 2024-10-28T22:57Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements
"@robin_linus but ultimately if we think that adding the ability to concat two bytes will destroy the system then we might actually have something very fragile on our hands yet just think of all the horrible things that can be done with merkle trees 😱"
X Link 2024-10-28T22:58Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements
"@theinstagibbs agree tho that doing just cat would be a waste as it should be packaged w/ other stuff that enables instantiation of state machines in a more succinct manner on chain merkle trees are amazing tho (just go read FIPS-205) so it'd be good to enable using that on-chain"
X Link 2024-10-28T23:05Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements
"so ya like merkle trees eh 🧐 ok go read FIPS [---] front to back and see if you can emerge unscathed"
X Link 2024-10-28T23:18Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements
"@robin_linus imo it's a useful primitive just like txn introspection is but with just txn op codes you don't get merkle trees agree that other stuff can emulate some (but not all) of its functionality more succinctly: https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1851037541354668119t=FRd1IDvs5kkGe14OiMV7fA&s=19 @theinstagibbs agree tho that doing just cat would be a waste as it should be packaged w/ other stuff that enables instantiation of state machines in a more succinct manner on chain merkle trees are amazing tho (just go read FIPS-205) so it'd be good to enable using that on-chain"
X Link 2024-10-29T00:00Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements
"@robin_linus that's the wrong framing "controversial" is relative to w/e ppl think is acceptable at the time should be about permissionless innovation we do that ppl have used tx introspection op codes to make AMM-like constructs on Liquid which you seem to fear so much"
X Link 2024-10-29T19:01Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements
"@robin_linus but truthfully idk cuz no one has built anything w/ it yet AFAICT it isn't even in bitcoin inquisition yet stuff like cat has demos that show unique use cases outside of covenants: we don't know the ergonomics of TXHASH yet I say that as a fan https://github.com/ajtowns/powcoins https://github.com/ajtowns/powcoins"
X Link 2024-10-29T19:02Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@robin_linus there's no way to prevent shitcoin casinos on Bitcoin they already exist (and have for years) but you don't need to like them ppl are doing what they want with their BTC that's the power of permissionless innovation"
X Link 2024-10-29T20:07Z 42.1K followers, [----] engagements
"@robin_linus I think if you answered my questions then this convo would be able to go somewhere productive how does cat alter Bitcoin's nature in unpredictable ways compared to more powerful introspection op code would adding merkle trees alter Bitcoin's nature in unpredictable ways"
X Link 2024-10-29T22:53Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@robin_linus is it possible to introduce a consensus upgrade that doesn't bring along with it unknown unknowns if so what's the process look like to arriving at that conclusion theses q's would help us get somewhere too: https://x.com/roasbeef/status/1851356213575139692 @robin_linus from what I gather ur against anything that can be shown to enable something AMM-like no matter the other benefits how confident are you that with TXHASH ppl can't make on chain swapping contracts should the focus be ensuring that AMMs can't be made with any future forks"
X Link 2024-10-29T22:54Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
"@TheBlueMatt seems what you want is a 10000x scalability improvement imo to get that you prob need to go with some entirely different architecture a dramatic overhaul of base Bitcoin may never happen but if we enable succinct proof verification in Script the playing field is opened"
X Link 2024-10-30T19:23Z 42.1K followers, [---] engagements
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