#  @eivissacopter Julien Julien posts on X about tesla, lg, panasonic, $6752t the most. They currently have [-----] followers and [---] posts still getting attention that total [------] engagements in the last [--] hours. ### Engagements: [------] [#](/creator/twitter::3328953580/interactions)  - [--] Week [------] +3,179% - [--] Month [-------] +50% - [--] Months [---------] +301% - [--] Year [---------] +5.60% ### Mentions: [--] [#](/creator/twitter::3328953580/posts_active)  - [--] Week [--] -80% - [--] Month [--] -48% - [--] Months [---] +345% - [--] Year [---] +14% ### Followers: [-----] [#](/creator/twitter::3328953580/followers)  - [--] Week [-----] +3.30% - [--] Month [-----] +5.50% - [--] Months [-----] +66% - [--] Year [-----] +95% ### CreatorRank: [-------] [#](/creator/twitter::3328953580/influencer_rank)  ### Social Influence **Social category influence** [automotive brands](/list/automotive-brands) [technology brands](/list/technology-brands) [stocks](/list/stocks) [countries](/list/countries) [luxury brands](/list/luxury-brands) [finance](/list/finance) [travel destinations](/list/travel-destinations) [social networks](/list/social-networks) [celebrities](/list/celebrities) [fashion brands](/list/fashion-brands) **Social topic influence** [tesla](/topic/tesla) #940, [lg](/topic/lg), [panasonic](/topic/panasonic), [$6752t](/topic/$6752t), [byd](/topic/byd), [$003550ks](/topic/$003550ks), [china](/topic/china), [the new](/topic/the-new), [in the](/topic/in-the), [porsche](/topic/porsche) **Top accounts mentioned or mentioned by** [@tesla](/creator/undefined) [@porsche](/creator/undefined) [@alojoh](/creator/undefined) [@broodro0ster](/creator/undefined) [@tff](/creator/undefined) [@brandenflasch](/creator/undefined) [@daturaspecies](/creator/undefined) [@junni](/creator/undefined) [@arpedk](/creator/undefined) [@icostinas](/creator/undefined) [@guusmeij](/creator/undefined) [@aresiusking](/creator/undefined) [@onlyforadawong](/creator/undefined) [@roamingnorway](/creator/undefined) [@limitingthe](/creator/undefined) [@banumraz](/creator/undefined) [@modelyturkiye](/creator/undefined) [@geitenijs](/creator/undefined) [@lala98808012](/creator/undefined) [@silv3rfish41](/creator/undefined) **Top assets mentioned** [Tesla, Inc. (TSLA)](/topic/tesla) [Alphabet Inc Class A (GOOGL)](/topic/$googl) [Ferrari N.V. (RACE)](/topic/ferrari) ### Top Social Posts Top posts by engagements in the last [--] hours "Theoretical Power curve of the #Tesla #Model3 #Performance #Plaid #Highland [----] with the #5D1 rear motor and current #LG5L battery pack. Main difference should be from 100kph to 200kph" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1705491343550616008) 2023-09-23T07:56Z [---] followers, [----] engagements "@icostinas I'd say around 0.5s improvement if they stick with the current LG 5L battery pack. The LG NMC packs have their strong side on precise capacity estimation and low SOC power delivery but peak charge and discharge power is not one of them" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1705983611814424644) 2023-09-24T16:32Z [---] followers, [---] engagements "If you've always wondered what actually happens when you buy #AccelerationBoost. Check out my article within #TFF forum here:" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1706964335782691255) 2023-09-27T09:29Z [---] followers, [---] engagements "This is probably the only time ever that I am asking you to please share this with your friends This is a survey about #Tesla #battery #degradation. To take part you just have to fill out this form: Results can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LmyllKqJWBr8J_LKVIAimsOigT4-hpfi5NeFJR8qZhQ/editusp=sharing https://forms.gle/5KNj6d9VdT4YSC1p9 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LmyllKqJWBr8J_LKVIAimsOigT4-hpfi5NeFJR8qZhQ/editusp=sharing https://forms.gle/5KNj6d9VdT4YSC1p9" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1707403890872799359) 2023-09-28T14:36Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "The new #US #ModelY #RWD raised the question about its battery chemistry. #NCA vs #LFP in the #Model3 #RWD is about 135kg in weight difference. The claimed weight on the US #Tesla Website hints at #LFP. Probably the #CATL6L #LFP62kWh" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1709172688852328471) 2023-10-03T11:44Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "The #BYD #Blade #7C battery pack in the #Tesla #ModelY #madeingermany is known for its supreme charging power but I am still puzzled by its immense loss of usable capacity over time I don't dare to call it #degradation just yet as it might still be a calibration thing" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1709508761960742934) 2023-10-04T10:00Z [----] followers, 20.3K engagements "Feel free to share your data in our large scale battery #Tesla #battery #survey: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LmyllKqJWBr8J_LKVIAimsOigT4-hpfi5NeFJR8qZhQ/editusp=sharing https://forms.gle/RUSRrpmCaUx3XbWr7 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LmyllKqJWBr8J_LKVIAimsOigT4-hpfi5NeFJR8qZhQ/editusp=sharing https://forms.gle/RUSRrpmCaUx3XbWr7" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1709509056476443081) 2023-10-04T10:01Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "First European customers have received their #Model3 #Highland registration papers. My initial observation about the #towhitch and #AccelerationBoost is confirmed in the paperwork. All cars are prepared for the #towhitch if you order it or not. #Retrofit is very likely" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1709846346558029896) 2023-10-05T08:21Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "Here is the confirmation of my earlier claim that the acceleration increase of the #ModelY #RWD #MIC is due to a change of the rear motor to the #3D6 🙂 Same battery pack same weight same EAP. 3D7 - 3D6 194kw - 220kw https://t.co/SuCqzrJBd4 Same battery pack same weight same EAP. 3D7 - 3D6 194kw - 220kw https://t.co/SuCqzrJBd4" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1710252946217115713) 2023-10-06T11:17Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@iSunrise007 @xiaoteshushu Nope. The plaid motor is the 5D1/5D2. 3D6 is the Hairpin stator Performance Motor that was introduced mid [----] in China. There was a Model Y RWD with the same motor and battery back in Q4/2021 already. Then it was switched to the slower 3D7 base motor" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1710256168721945072) 2023-10-06T11:30Z [---] followers, [--] engagements "@enhauto Actually apart from the App not running on my Pixel [--] I have a few more bugs now. - Acceleration Mode toggle doesn't work anymore. Can't switch between sport/chill. - Regen is showing wrong at 25% although it is at 100%. - Top Left says "Roll" although I am in "Auto Hold" mode" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1711877370171314462) 2023-10-10T22:52Z [---] followers, [--] engagements ".and here ist the confirmation that #Tesla will retrofit the #towhitch on #Model3 #Highland 🙂👍" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1719632811366154355) 2023-11-01T08:29Z [---] followers, [---] engagements "@dm_ms If this turns out to be the most basic form of #AdaptiveHeadlights (cornering lights / directional headlights) this technology was introduced [---] years ago with real mass production in the 1960's 🙂 #AdaptiveHeadlights is used for different tech levels up to full Matrix LED" [X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1737404140756545960) 2023-12-20T09:26Z [--] followers, [---] engagements "@dm_ms The wording leaves a lot of interpretation but Tesla is usually referring to "High Beam" and "Low Beam". #AdaptiveMainBeam means IMHO that the main headlights can adapt to different situations not just high/low as the current #AutoHighBeam feature" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1737409664273273325) 2023-12-20T09:48Z [---] followers, [---] engagements "Milestone [----] datasets is reached 🏅 Thanks for all the participation so far and way to go 🙂 Tesla Battery Degradation Survey: Results and Analysis:" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1737948476397523361) 2023-12-21T21:29Z [---] followers, [---] engagements "@JJ_Zarathustra @Tesla The constant is (if at all) only related to US EPA consumption. Even if a car is sold in Europe ( WLTP) or China (CLTC). All cars (same type) use the same constant everywhere If there is no EPA test or no equivalent car in the US then Tesla uses a generic constant initially" [X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1739023740657189204) 2023-12-24T20:42Z [--] followers, [--] engagements "Spoiler: There is a good chance that we will see a similar release for Refreshed #ModelS and #ModelX in the coming days. Stay tuned 👍" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1752992935472194020) 2024-02-01T09:50Z [---] followers, [----] engagements "@kendoshh I suggest you have a look at my complete list of these TC revisions and check how correct the reported changes have been in the past:" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1753050201600688415) 2024-02-01T13:38Z [---] followers, [---] engagements "@CynicLib No more info on that in the documentation. Probably only a new listed supplier for these parts" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1753059178472448246) 2024-02-01T14:14Z [---] followers, [---] engagements "@sepp_reitberger War das eine Aussage der Porsche Pressevertreter mit dem "da ginge sogar noch mehr" Denn die die Rechnung 800V x 1100A fr theoretische Leistung geht nicht auf. Bei 1100A hat der Akku nicht mehr 800V sondern eher 630-650V. Die angegebenen 700kW sind sicherlich nah am Limit" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1755156915171004528) 2024-02-07T09:09Z [---] followers, [--] engagements "@andreiiulian90 I can only repeat myself. Added kWh is not a worthy calculation to estimate usable battery size. Tesla API adds 45% of fictional energy on every charge to this value for a start. In non LFP Cars like yours the buffer is always fixed at 45%" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1757013356748136612) 2024-02-12T12:06Z [---] followers, [--] engagements "@fabinulleins @Chhllrm There were two key arguments: - 5D1 plaid Motor is too premium/expensive for the Model [--]. - Why delay the performance if 5D1 is readily available Using the cheap but potent mass motor 4D1 which is available in every GF and delaying until a new powerful battery pack is ready" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1763179318220378510) 2024-02-29T12:28Z [---] followers, [---] engagements "Addition as the reports about my post are partly inaccurate: - The 4D1 rear motor is already in production in the US and Germany since early [----] and exclusively in the #ModelY. - The battery pack is the power limiting factor so we haven't seen an increase in performance yet" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1763277948000325954) 2024-02-29T18:59Z [---] followers, [---] engagements "- The 4D1 is not the #Plaid motor. Plaid Motors are called 5D1/5D2. - The strongest battery pack currently is the Panasonic 82kWh NCA and even that one cant saturate current front and rear motors" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1763278368319955121) 2024-02-29T19:01Z [---] followers, [---] engagements "@Smudlik2 @Electric_Maik My advice is to disregard the unfiltered view and focus on the long term projection below. To see which cars use which battery pack I have created "Akkuwiki" and obviously there is much more information within the survey table:" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1764616671463924155) 2024-03-04T11:39Z [---] followers, [---] engagements "@Electric_Maik More like 11% don't you think The previous 3D6 was rated at 320V x 840A = 269kW which was only saturated by the Panasonic never by the LG and even then only for a split second around 70-75kph" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1764933992271294469) 2024-03-05T08:40Z [---] followers, [---] engagements "@geitenijs Actually low SOC power delivery is one of its few strong parts see below. Though generally hot and full peak power was worse than Panasanic indeed I don't know which iteration of LG its is but all LG packs (5C/5L) were 355V nominal voltage and all Panasonic were 320V" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1764961962893455385) 2024-03-05T10:31Z [---] followers, [----] engagements "Just to kill some #trustmebro accusations Tesla's #M3P2024 (BAT) data provided to S.Korean authorities vs #M3LR2024 (LG5L) data provided to EU authorities: - Nominal Capacity 230Ah✅ - Nominal Voltage 355V✅ - 82kWh❌ - 79kWh This combination is unique to LG5L 79kWh NMC" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1765329652975841726) 2024-03-06T10:52Z [---] followers, [----] engagements "With all the reporting about a new 600hp+ #Model3 #Performance #Ludicrous.people seem to forget that: - Combined motor power is a theoretical value👎 - Battery power is the limiting factor👍 - The expected LG pack (5L) peaks at 565hp .briefly at 100% SOC when hot" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1765723152716292548) 2024-03-07T12:56Z [---] followers, [----] engagements "US Cars with the stronger Panasonic pack peak at around 590hp" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1765724634761093317) 2024-03-07T13:02Z [---] followers, [---] engagements "@icostinas The question is how if nominal voltage and nominal capacity have been unchanged. LG is indeed way overdue with another update - LG 5C M48 75kWh 355V NMC released Q4/2020 - LG 5L M50F 79kWh 355V NMC released Q4/2021 Even two years later #Highland LR still got this "old" pack" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1765741913544466728) 2024-03-07T14:10Z [---] followers, [---] engagements "@icostinas .funny thing is: They could re-release the 2018/2019 Panasonic [--] pack and it would be a huge step up 🤐 - Superfast charging on par with Model S Refresh [----] - Great discharge power - 30hp up - Same size basically 78-79kWh - Lowest degradation over time of all NMC/NCA packs" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1765743437284888722) 2024-03-07T14:16Z [---] followers, [---] engagements "Look at the claimed power curve of the old 3D3 front motor and new 4D3B "rear" motor. - Peak power is too low for a rear motor - 4D3B was not WLTP tested and only marked as "optional" - 4D3B is clearly aimed to be used as front motor (Power curve also suggests PSM🙂🚀)" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1768612518811828411) 2024-03-15T12:17Z [---] followers, [----] engagements "@IovePianoBlack Congrats 🎉 Can you report your indicated rated range at 100%" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1768930090623143991) 2024-03-16T09:19Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "Updated #Tesla Motor / #DriveUnit Overview" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1770005294430482894) 2024-03-19T08:32Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@SergioViudes M3P was delivered with 3D3/3D1 from the start in [----] and only switched battery pack (82kWh NCA) in Q4/2020. M3P was delivered from Q3/2021 with two different rear motors (3D1 wire / 3D6 hairpin) and from Q1/2022 only with 3D6. The Battery changed Panasonic to LG in Q2/2022" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1770810077726773458) 2024-03-21T13:49Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "#Hairpin #Driveunit Power/Torque comparison 🧪Baseline🧪 - #ModelY #DualMotor - #3D3 Front DU - #LG 5L 79kWh #NMC at 99% / 50C - 3D7 + Acceleration Boost - 4D1 + Acceleration Boost - 3D6 Performance - 4D1 Performance My2: #ModelY LR with 4D1+AB = Best 🚀 for the 💵" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1771107810345939254) 2024-03-22T09:33Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "The Fremont VIN in the leaked #Model3 #Ludicrous video does not decode as a #Ludicrous model which should have a ''T" as the 8th digit but this might be due to being pre-production. Shanghai testing vehicles have the "T" Also check out the new "driving dynamics" drive modes" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1771455895278420242) 2024-03-23T08:36Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@icostinas Yes. Unless they power limit the Panasonic (highly unlikely) that will be absolutely the case This has been the case for two years now and I didn't see customers complain about it so why change a running system" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1771961602901786774) 2024-03-24T18:05Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@keeevTESLA Less than we hoped for You remember I said I wanted to be wrong with pretty much all my projections. I wanted a PSM front motor for solid highway power and a new revision of the Panasonic NCA pack with around 86kWh for higher peak power and a better charging curve. Oh well" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1771989785244061942) 2024-03-24T19:57Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "#Model3 #Ludicrous #InsaneMode Projection Tesla Owners Handbook: "Insane: increases peak torque by approximately [--] percent (available on Performance All-Wheel Drive vehicles not equipped with the Ludicrous upgrade)" Up to 950Nm without without the torque limiter" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1772926663518511274) 2024-03-27T10:00Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@Lala98808012 There is one scenario: When the MIC M3P [----] was discontinued there was a sudden surplus of 840A inverters so Tesla put them in the MY RWD (3D6=255kW) increasing its acceleration down to 5.9s. So.wait for the discontinuation of MIG MYP to see the MY RWD getting 255kW / 5.9s" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1772974750735732994) 2024-03-27T13:11Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "#Model3 #Performance [----] comparison: ❌Ludicrous is 10kg heavier ➖Battery Pack / 415kW #PowerLimit is unchanged ✅4D2A rear motor is 35kW up in power ❌Torque is down by 2Nm ❌WLTP range is down by 19km (+2Wh/km) ➖Maximum speed is unchanged ✅Wider rear tires" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1776138744652820936) 2024-04-05T06:44Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@NCBirbhan @SynSUN_Official The Refresh [----] started with a Panasonic with usable 82kWh but this pack is only used in US production today. They stopped using it in Europe after Q1/2022" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1776139625741869410) 2024-04-05T06:47Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@Pres_M_Lincoln This is official type certificate information now. It just matches the Korean leaks and my interpretations exactly" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1776143322953679237) 2024-04-05T07:02Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "#Model3 #Ludicrous expected differences: - Panasonic 3L NCA 82kWh435kW #PowerLimit - Empty mass +20kg (heavier) due to heavier Battery - EPA range [---] miles (calculated)" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1776150367975149866) 2024-04-05T07:30Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@Renato77678189 Das wird auch hchste Zeit Tesla hat [----] mit dem Panasonic 78kWh NCA Akku eine absolute Wucht auf den Markt gebracht. Hohe Lade/Entladeleistung und niedrige Degradation. Seitdem ging es mal abgesehen von der tollen Ladeleistung des BYD Blade quasi nur seit- oder rckwrts" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1776197729888121232) 2024-04-05T10:38Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@Joey83433613 @Pres_M_Lincoln Von versptete Registrierung whrend man lngst bestellen kann bis zu drei Monate nach Registrierung ist alles dabei" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1776208030780031367) 2024-04-05T11:19Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "More data: https://tff-forum.de/t/wiki-model-3-model-y-technische-veraenderungen/100784/1367u=eivissa https://tff-forum.de/t/wiki-model-3-model-y-technische-veraenderungen/100784/1367u=eivissa" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1776251219108827624) 2024-04-05T14:11Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "Since you've asked for it. This is my expectation of how the #Panasonic and (LG) cars compare in front/rear motor power and total power to each other. This is based of the data provided by Tesla (torque/power vs rpm) and my (SMT) measurements of the current older cars" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1776265244374892561) 2024-04-05T15:06Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@9phyok32 @GeorgesSweere My [----] M3P with the stronger Panasonic and super light aftermarket wheels does 9.2s 100-200. There is room for improvement. Absolutely" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1776341276889133145) 2024-04-05T20:08Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@9phyok32 @GeorgesSweere 2018-2021 the car stayed the same even with the change to a newer Panasonic NCA and a new rear motor during that time. From [----] Q2 the Asian and European car got a little slower with introduction of the LG NMC pack. Here is small test from back then. https://tff-forum.de/t/model-3-performance-2022-panasonic-vs-lg/210880u=eivissa https://tff-forum.de/t/model-3-performance-2022-panasonic-vs-lg/210880u=eivissa" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1776343297822208082) 2024-04-05T20:16Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@GuusMeij @hubb_kyle Whatever the papers said in the past like [---] [---] and now 461kW. The actual power is purely limited by the Battery: - Panasonic 78kWh (2018-) 430kW - Panasonic 82kWh (2021-) 435kW - LG 5L 79kWh (2021-) 415kW These values are 100% SOC / 50C. 99% and 49C will be less" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1776570518633640065) 2024-04-06T11:19Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "Remember my tweet about the new low power 4D3B motor that I just couldn't figure out Tesla just re-certified the #3D7 at even lower power of only110kWfor the #M3 #Highland RWD. The second #Tesla #RWD that is getting a possible (optional) downgrade To be clear: - There is not much left to support the theory of the #4D3B being a replacement of the #3D3A. - I am still trying to figure out what the low power #4D3B 159kW motor will be used for. This is by far the lowest power level that #Tesla has certified for any M3/MY https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1771150438898770085 To be clear: - There" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1777041272336765093) 2024-04-07T18:30Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@ctash This pack has been introduced back in Q4/2020 and is used until today. The cells are produced by Panasonic right next to the Fremont factory. So I believe it should be eligible as it has been in the past. I would seek confirmation from US drivers though" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1777572176184463440) 2024-04-09T05:40Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "#ModelY weight comparison: - The #3D3A Front DU adds about 100kg - #LG NMC pack (vs #CATL LFP) adds 75kg in weight but 25% in capacity. - The #BYD LFP60 structural battery pack adds 8kg over the non-structural #CATL LFP62. - The #Uberturbines on the #MYP are heavy beasts" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1777641939937989057) 2024-04-09T10:17Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "These are the actual #BatteryPack (assembled) weights according to #Tesla interal data sheets: - LG Chem 5L 79kWh NMC 456kg 5.7kg/kWh - Panasonic 3L 82kWh NCA 475kg 5.8kg/kWh - CATL 6L 62kWh LFP 476kg 7.7kg/kWh - BYD 7C 60kWh LFP 496kg 8.3kg/kWh" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1777672923379122275) 2024-04-09T12:20Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@GhostAndSkaterr Yes. Both stated as [----] cells and 5.0Ah per cell. Different chemistry and nominal voltage resulting in about 2.5kWh net more for the Panasonic" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1777675845731074218) 2024-04-09T12:32Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@Rainmaker1973 Weird how this line up could include absolute rarities like V4 and R8 but not have icons in it like R5 (Audi) or V8 Flatplane (Ferrari)" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1777953002516570596) 2024-04-10T06:53Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "#ModelY with #BYD #Blade received #VS10 certification - #HW4 Autopilot - #3D6 Performance DU 235kW255kW - #4D1 Performance DU 235kW255kW My 2ct: - The power increase will remain #paperpower as long as Tesla keeps the 700A215kW battery #powerlimit https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1773615381531304283 #ModelY #AP #HW4🤖certified in Europe with #VC35 - AP HW [--] Hardware for the ModelY - ModelY LR RWD reconfirmed incl. high power version with 255kW 🚀 - Introduction of new rear motor DU #4D3 reconfirmed +more stuff. https://t.co/R2LDFrv9Dc https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1773615381531304283" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1778104179858223476) 2024-04-10T16:54Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@devix195 Yes. No hardware changes. This is actually after it went down. 3D6 started early [----] with the BYD at 235kW then 220kW now 255kW. Battery always provided 215kW. BYD never left since March [----]. Grnheide started to deliver cars with CATL packs too in late 2023" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1778152694760321510) 2024-04-10T20:06Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@AVILOO_BATTERY @frankfeil .oder hier: - Fehlende eindeutige Zuordnung dass hier WLTP 567km (Panasonic 82kWh) zhlt nicht 547km (LG) - 779kWh bei Neuzustand ist zu niedrig. WLTP wurden mit echten 820kWh erreicht und dies sollte damit auch Grundlage der Berechnung sein. Tolles Konzept aber Details" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1778400097501401412) 2024-04-11T12:29Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@JailanX3 @RandomAtom3 Yo aun pienso que lo van a ofrecer justo debajo 60k. Por lo menos en Alemnia pero los precios ya estan muy parecidos en Europa" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1778805691504849153) 2024-04-12T15:21Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "#Model3 #Performance #Ludicrous will be: H5LD-PKp2s5T2W (if the 500kg tow hitch is included)" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1778807859880300773) 2024-04-12T15:30Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@Muhuhuhu228211 @copyPaste1231 To make it even more confusing.battery and motor weren't changed just the front DU removed. I can't tell you the source for HW4 introduction but a Tesla sales rep is usually the last one to be giving you accurate intel" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1779174286512562576) 2024-04-13T15:46Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@Seb_Gode @Tesla @MimMusMet Yes but with printed power it's different. This happened once with the Model [--] LR/P in late [----] when these got more power OTA. Though this was listed in the certification from then on and all newer cars had the higher power figures. If Tesla did that in Turkey the 10% is gone" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1781237652911493450) 2024-04-19T08:25Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "460+PS/HP 😂" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1782805763209015570) 2024-04-23T16:16Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@HatforceSec My measurements back in [----] with these two packs in the #M3P head to head concluded around 22kW more for the #Panasonic which is a little less than 40hp but close enough. https://tff-forum.de/t/model-3-performance-2022-panasonic-vs-lg/210880 https://tff-forum.de/t/model-3-performance-2022-panasonic-vs-lg/210880" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1782811965930258503) 2024-04-23T16:41Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@stealth_plaid The only difference is the Battery Pack. The motors front/rear are identical (3D3A/4D2A). Since the battery power limit is always the limiting factor in the performance this is the key difference In the US you get a better Panasonic Pack: - Faster DC Charges - +20kW - +3 kWh" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1782841722168279194) 2024-04-23T18:39Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@Techgnostik @SawyerMerritt 2170L Panasonic Cells. Known since late [----]. Built in the US in contrast to the LG M50F cells used in the LR" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1782878500682162531) 2024-04-23T21:05Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@mattkocaj Well now I get it. You meant 460hp right It was just a typo. That is most likely #Tesla finally acknowledging the power difference of these two packs (LG vs Panasonic) indeed. The question is why they are stacking the claimed power so low as 460hp is certainly not 100%" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1783105220194492451) 2024-04-24T12:06Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "#Model3 #Performance Tow Hitch confirmed ✅ It isn't available to be ordered from the configurator but a the user #nonkonformist@TFF was able to add it to is order via contact to a @Tesla sales agent 👍 💸 [----] incl. tax" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1783376722810769648) 2024-04-25T06:05Z [----] followers, 13.5K engagements "Still puzzling how @tesla representatives can keep repeating that their new #M3P is more efficient and can drive further while the measured consumption went up + range went down by 5% in all markets (Compared to the old car with identical battery pack) What am I missing" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1783549237705277606) 2024-04-25T17:30Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@PiFischii @Lala98808012 In case you were wondering how the optional 19" wheels were looking. This is pulled from the Tesla China website were these are being offered:" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1783550908355264739) 2024-04-25T17:37Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@MSCastelli @Tesla My 2ct: For new customers it is quite a no-brainer For people who are driving Pre-Refresh Models or Non-P this might also be worth it. If you already have a Refreshed Performance especially with Panasonic pack not worth a switch in my opinion" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1783553292024287594) 2024-04-25T17:46Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@hyp36rmax @MSCastelli @Tesla That's really my position right now. I have Refreshed Performance with quite a few mods on it and all the stuff you want like Ryzen MCU Panasonic 82kWh pack and the 3D6 rear drive unit with the super light rotor. Also the Refresh headlights are better in my opinion" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1783553939444580829) 2024-04-25T17:49Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@OLBJAN @Tesla Guter Punkt aber dennoch hat sich die Range in vergleichbarem Masse auch unter WLTP Bedingungen reduziert. Ja das echte (eigentlich geheime) Ergebnis war identisch mit dem alten aber selbst das ist ja noch keine Verbesserung" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1783558107999752538) 2024-04-25T18:06Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@AdamSinger So What is it then More coal burning or "Germany hitting a record low" https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/04/germany-emissions-hit-70-year-low-reduces-reliance-coal https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/04/germany-emissions-hit-70-year-low-reduces-reliance-coal" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1783847441562734890) 2024-04-26T13:15Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@obgyn_pt @Tesla Yes EPA changed But: Applying the EPA range reduction of the MYP (-8%) onto legacy M3P (315 miles) you get [---] miles. New M3P is advertised at [---] miles. In China range went down 8% In Europe range went down 4% With reduced rolling resistance + more efficient rear DU" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1783860865474629899) 2024-04-26T14:09Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@Twizz7871 @Tesla Reduziert man die Range des US M3P um den Unterschied der Kapazitt (4%) wren es ca. [---] Meilen also 7% Unterschied zum US M3LR. In Deutschland ist der Unterschied 16%. Das ist in der Tat ein krasser Unterschied" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1783903879165260222) 2024-04-26T17:00Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "#ModelY RWD [----] ❌CATL 6L LFP60 (2022/2023) ✅Panasonic 3L NCA82 SW locked to 4.1V Capa lock to 67.5kWh matching the [----] AWD Same declared range as [----] LFP car with 62kWh Old 3D1 / [---] DU What a weird thing Good find @brandenflasch https://x.com/brandenflasch/status/1784313703636021618t=pj-8a0oqiW1wHziVnb1bVg&s=19 Surprisingly Good Range - [----] @Tesla Model Y RWD (US Spec) 70mph Highway Range Test https://t.co/YBAVRePxoa https://t.co/26yHoM8hDp https://x.com/brandenflasch/status/1784313703636021618t=pj-8a0oqiW1wHziVnb1bVg&s=19 Surprisingly Good Range - [----] @Tesla Model Y RWD (US Spec) 70mph" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1784474047843094755) 2024-04-28T06:45Z [----] followers, 15.5K engagements "@psbroke @brandenflasch With the BYD Blade we have a RWD car that charges even faster but less capacity and energy density. Also not as fast. This car must pull a fair bit better than CATL or BYD" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1784475978154066095) 2024-04-28T06:53Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@JJ_Zarathustra @brandenflasch I don't get it either. Long Range premium buyers have to make due with LG packs not getting the tax cuts while RWD buyers secretly get this huge upgrade" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1784533712098427103) 2024-04-28T10:42Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@brandenflasch Ok. That is high for a RWD car. The LFP cars only do 230kW (CATL) and 215kW (BYD). The 3D1 motor in that car can do 269kW. Worth testing at 100% on a DC charger. I can imagine it is able to saturate this motor if the battery is full and hot enough" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1784589966405964092) 2024-04-28T14:26Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@brandenflasch @philroberts Both CATL packs were restricted with SW updates during their lifetime. LFP55 went down from 55.9kWh to 54.1kWh. The successor LFP60 went from 62kWh to 61kWh (M3) and 60kWh (MY). The last lock was to match the capacity to the smaller BYD pack" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1784590567885738210) 2024-04-28T14:28Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@brandenflasch @spleck It is easy to calculate if you charge the car to any SOC above 30%. Note voltage without load. Then you accelerate full throttle through 45mph and note peak current and lowest voltage. Knowing no load at 85% it is just math" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1784591975775117776) 2024-04-28T14:34Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "Small overview (work in progress)" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1785649858692456913) 2024-05-01T12:37Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@alojoh @Tesla @Porsche This comparison was written by someone who has no understanding of the respective performance in relation to real life factors or purposely left out key data to make the Tesla look better. This isn't apples to apples on so many levels. Both are desirable for different reasons" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1785968435265994766) 2024-05-02T09:43Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@Silv3rFish41 @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche You are describing how you perceived the description of test drivers who have perceived performance of a test car of which they don't daily the predecessor. Cars that were at high SOC in warm climate being driven on curvy roads within the realms of the speed limits. Data" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1785986959753503133) 2024-05-02T10:57Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@Silv3rFish41 @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche I know the drivers. I know the videos. I know what they said. What I am saying is that these are the ideal conditions for any M3P and all these exaggerations about the new car are based on perception not measured data yet. People should stop pretending it's anything else" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1786001226833744000) 2024-05-02T11:54Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche What I mean is that - the M3P can only deliver this performance with a full/hot pack were the Taycan (variable current) has more power once the Tesla drops SOC/temp. - the M3P has peak power once at around 100kph and then drops were the Taycan shifts to second and goes again" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1786004160162169212) 2024-05-02T12:05Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche Also the Porsche has many options people are happy to pay for that just isn't available for the Tesla. The Porsche has significantly faster charging. Design. The whole car is just aimed at different People really. The M3P has a greater price point. No doubt about that" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1786005037002396079) 2024-05-02T12:09Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@Silv3rFish41 @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche This is again ideal territory for any M3P. Tight track high SOC DC charged. Put those cars on a track with long straights were the second gear can be used have both cars at 50% and 15C ambient no DC charge.different story" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1786006275144155202) 2024-05-02T12:14Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@Silv3rFish41 @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche Be excited about the new car. This is now about to be repetitive I am out" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1786007296117522499) 2024-05-02T12:18Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@Hoggigold @Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche - The Porsche ITY network has great coverage and is right next to highway fueling stations no detour off the highway as for the Supercharger. - The Porsche supports Plug+Charge. - 10%-80% in ideal conditions is +10 minutes faster + more energy charged. - Less efficient though" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1786011470058185211) 2024-05-02T12:34Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche Yes. Especially with cars things get emotional and we do our best to justify our buying decisions. I am driving and enjoying my M3P every day. Wouldn't want the Taycan or M-Car (had those)but I will not defend its capabilities at all costs just for the sake of it" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1786012383116136764) 2024-05-02T12:38Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@Hoggigold @Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche Here in Europe the Ionity Network is well developed. You can charge at 800V full speed right on the Highway. Less stalls per location than Tesla but there are more Networks for Porsche that also support 800V Autocharge. Price/Performance - Tesla https://ionity.eu/en/network-status https://ionity.eu/en/network-status" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1786014874260168750) 2024-05-02T12:48Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@TeslaPatriot @Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche 100-200kph at 90% / 50% / 10% as a starter. Doing this on a hot summers day vs. a chilly autumn day. In contrast to combustion cars BEV's are slower in winter and faster in summer. Tesla's fixed current BMS philosophy does the rest" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1786022185397588404) 2024-05-02T13:17Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@Flyingfishtrump @Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche You will see that I have repeatedly stated that Tesla is much better in regards to #bangforthebuck I am merely pointing out that those data points have been chosen "wisely" to make the Taycan look worse in all aspects which it isn't. Not even in all the ones it is compared here" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1786035288638116196) 2024-05-02T14:09Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@TeslaDude12 @TeslaPatriot @Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche Absolutely not. This statement can only be from someone who does not understand the correlation between the battery BMS and Tesla drive units" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1786044961999204460) 2024-05-02T14:47Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@TeslaPatriot @Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche The old Taycan 4S was [----] seconds in the 1/4 mile just as the old M3P. I am lacking acceleration test data for the [----] versions of each car but both are supposed to be faster. The comparison gets more interesting at lower SOC which is were the Taycan likely has an advantage" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1786103289408262565) 2024-05-02T18:39Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@electricfelix @AirElectricApp @RoamingNorway Tessie is historically wrong at new values with pretty much all packs. It doesn't even know which wheels are selected which is often relevant for this calculation" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1787248322379501825) 2024-05-05T22:29Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@antonio2134a @electricfelix @AirElectricApp @RoamingNorway He mentions additional range of 40-60 EPA miles The locked capacity in the MY RWD is as follows: - BYD 7C LFP60 [---] kWh - CATL 6L LFP62 [---] kWh - Panasonic 3L NCA82 11kWh Do the maths which pack he means that can unlock that kind of extra range. 😉" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1787357759068860514) 2024-05-06T05:44Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@AirElectricApp @RoamingNorway @itskyleconner @Out_of_Spec What do you expect The readings from the MY RWD with locked Panasonic pack at 100% and 0% are known and we know how this pack performs in its unlocked state since Q4/2020" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1787374037233987996) 2024-05-06T06:49Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@DKasztelaniec @Junni @Tesla @catl_official If you monitor the BMS current/voltage behavior in the old car (same LG battery pack) you will not find any headroom for optional/extra power. The battery pack that Tesla is currently using was certified in June [----] I am sure the next gen pack will be released this year" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1787418902122614795) 2024-05-06T09:47Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@Junni @DKasztelaniec @Tesla @catl_official There is no data yet so this is me guessing: There will be a BYD 7L LFP Pack with maybe 70kWh for the SR variants and a LR/P pack like CATL Qilin at 90kWh. Tesla needs to step up their game to at least this if they want to be taken seriously in 2024" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1787457552076148787) 2024-05-06T12:21Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "1500 rows Thank you all for participating in this worldwide survey 🔋🥳🌍 Feel free to enter your own data here: .and have a look at the results here: Feel free to share your ideas for evaluations in the #Dashboard view🙂 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LmyllKqJWBr8J_LKVIAimsOigT4-hpfi5NeFJR8qZhQ/editusp=sharing https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScTmpkCvDiYezgy7aacK_s5UMXICnDCWX0P6qgC6R-yGywPzQ/viewform https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LmyllKqJWBr8J_LKVIAimsOigT4-hpfi5NeFJR8qZhQ/editusp=sharing" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1787821733891789154) 2024-05-07T12:28Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@EFIEBER_ANDRE @greentheonly hatte eine kurze Beschreibung gezeigt was in Toolbox eingestellt werden msste um die Scheinwerfer in Pre-Refresh Fahrzeugen zu aktivieren. Dieser Vorgang war allerdings nur theoretisch ohne Besttigung" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1789293825359323487) 2024-05-11T13:57Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "#Tesla #Model3 #Performance [----] certified in China. Thanks @AresiusKing for the info No surprises in the data but.although you shouldn't add motor powers.the claimed 402kW / 547hp at the wheels is a plausible number for the LG battery pack. 👍" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1789295080940933130) 2024-05-11T14:02Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "Thread #Tesla #Unicorn Buyers Guide This will be a continuous thread about recommended build configurations over the years that are worth looking at on the used market or maybe worth keeping if you have one 😉 This is obviously open to discussion but bear with me 👍" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1789952949055045658) 2024-05-13T09:36Z [----] followers, 11.4K engagements "#Model3 #LongRange #Performance [----] - 2020(Q3) Panasonic 78kWh NCA ✅Fastest charging Model [--] overall ✅Best degradation projection so far ✅Acceleration better than later LG models ✅Efficient motor combination ❌Get more efficient tires ❌Install more sound insulation" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1789956768086298737) 2024-05-13T09:52Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "#ModelY #LongRange 2022-Q3 (+early Q4) (Made in GF4 Grnheide) ✅LG 79kWh NMC Pack ✅MCU-Z Ryzen ✅Softer suspension from supplier ✅640kg load capacity Only in [----] ✅Efficient 3D7 rear motor ✅Last generation with ultrasonic sensors ❌Only Black/White" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1789974636081344676) 2024-05-13T11:03Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "#Model3 #LongRange 2021-Q2 Variant = E3LD ✅Only #LongRange with Panasonic 82kWh NCA ✅True WLTP 640km / Declared 614km ✅New front door panels. ✅#BjrnNyland 1000km challenge 9:20 🏆 ✅Probably the best allround #LongRange of any model year" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1790034524883095905) 2024-05-13T15:01Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "#Model3 #Performance 2022-Q1 WLTP 559km. ✅Last generation Panasonic 82kWh NCA pack ✅Strongest battery pack of all Performance models ✅Second best charging curve of all LR/P models ✅First generation MCU3 Ryzen ✅Efficient+Strong 3D6 hairpin motor ✅Only in Q1/2022" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1790356881459826756) 2024-05-14T12:21Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "This looks like one of the first sightings of #Tesla #ModelY #Juniper parts in Thanks to the unnamed source for keeping me in the loop 🙂" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1790403949889015952) 2024-05-14T15:29Z [----] followers, 85.1K engagements "@mikeortner @async_func @electric_benni @nullkommazero Dass der LG einen Vorteil bei niedrigen Temperaturen hat ist ein wirklich hartnckiger Mythos aber rein von den Daten her liegt der Vorteil nur bei niedrigem SOC. Der LG verliert leider genau so an Leistung bei niedriger Temperatur wie der Panasonic" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1791366471148331046) 2024-05-17T07:13Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "🔋#Tesla Battery Degradation - Next level dive🪫 Using #Matplotlib I have added two more axis to the evaluations that you already know. I will continue with other packs and values but LFP was interesting as a start 🙂 Any ideas what to combine next https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LmyllKqJWBr8J_LKVIAimsOigT4-hpfi5NeFJR8qZhQ/editusp=sharing https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LmyllKqJWBr8J_LKVIAimsOigT4-hpfi5NeFJR8qZhQ/editusp=sharing" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1792485486335778884) 2024-05-20T09:20Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "As per all the requests: - Added trend line (linear / non-logarithmic) - Limited both batteries to 29.000km - Limited both to [--] months (BYD max age) - Added DC Ratio again" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1792822466135683549) 2024-05-21T07:39Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "For the full clip you need to click on the GIF link in the tweet" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1793163765174649340) 2024-05-22T06:15Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "Important Correction This clip was taken in #GF4 Berlin (Grnheide) Since the source was Chinese I assumed it would be from Shanghai. My bad" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1793167345415827693) 2024-05-22T06:29Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "#Tesla #Model3/#ModelY DU Hardware differences: - Drive Unit CAT 2/3 has the lightest rotor - Drive Unit CAT [--] (4D1/4D2) has the heaviest rotor" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1793565457527844953) 2024-05-23T08:51Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@EFIEBER_ANDRE Richtige Aussagen mchte ich eigentlich erst mit CANBUS/Dragy Daten raushauen. Mitte Juni wurde mir ein Testfahrzeug "geteasert". Mein aktuelles 2022er M3P mit Panasonic macht 9.2s 100-200 (berturbine) und meine bisherige These war ja dass genau da die Verbesserung sein wird" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1793570079130738905) 2024-05-23T09:10Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@LimitingThe So the energy density is no better than the current LG NMC pack that they started using back in [----] or the current Panasonic NCA pack that came in [----] Oh boy" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1793661542338384015) 2024-05-23T15:13Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@Godzillin88 @LimitingThe The problem is that other manufacturers have started to improve all those numbers at the same time" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1793667354494451962) 2024-05-23T15:36Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@Twizz7871 @Godzillin88 @LimitingThe The Panasonic Pack was certified in August [----] and released in October [----]. More like almost four years now. I want Tesla to lead the pack but a current Tesla Model [--] charges slower than a similar BMW i4 and far slower than a [----] Model [--] and I am not even starting with CATL" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1793673216428593516) 2024-05-23T15:59Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@JJ_Zarathustra @LimitingThe Don't you mean they were leading four years ago and are now on par with themselves four years ago Batteries are charging slower than six years ago and the capacity didn't increase more than 1-2kWh in that time" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1793704222002958472) 2024-05-23T18:03Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "Important addition thanks to your feedback Stator Technology" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1793921124004245622) 2024-05-24T08:25Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@JJ_Zarathustra @LimitingThe Yes. late [----] V2 4680's are on par with were Panasonic was in [----] and LG in [----]. That is the comparison. Now I would prefer Tesla to be were CATL is right now in the close future and this is were I am not too sure at the moment" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1793978622954574067) 2024-05-24T12:13Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@Silv3rFish41 @BLKMDL3 You mean battery current right Voltage sag/drop in the Panasonic especially in this case right after supercharging is minimal at only 55V" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1794275435569906088) 2024-05-25T07:52Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@icostinas @JoshuaThePilot Yes. Indeed. [---] years old and the less favourable made in China batch but the powerful Panasonic nonetheless" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1794311271158038639) 2024-05-25T10:15Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@Storch_i Mge die Umfrage noch so relevant sein. #Bild bekommt von mir keinen Klick 👎" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1794431151559278667) 2024-05-25T18:11Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@Seb_Gode @gebrauchtetesla @ValentinMoeller @dieserNiko @nullkommazero Beide Packs zeigen bei 100% genau 596kWh. Im Hintergrund beginnen beide aber unterschiedlich. Der CATL hat Initial knapp 62kWh und der BYD 60kWh. Beim CATL reduziert sich die angezeigte Reichweite also deutlich spter da erst knapp 2kWh der Degradation zum Opfer fallen mssen" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1794472287816634737) 2024-05-25T20:55Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@nullkommazero @Seb_Gode @gebrauchtetesla @ValentinMoeller @dieserNiko Da die zyklische Alterung bei LFP eine untergeordnete Rolle spielt sollte man primr das Alter betrachten. Aktuell kommen die Tesla LFP nach drei Jahren bei ca. 10% (und 150k km) an. Wer danach einen linearen Fortschritt annimmt hat es eh nicht verstanden. 😉👍" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1794485702026989812) 2024-05-25T21:48Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@ValentinMoeller @gebrauchtetesla @Seb_Gode @dieserNiko @nullkommazero Wenn der Wagen jetzt bei 100% nur noch 406km anzeigt dann sind bereits 2.1kWj weg ja. Evtl kommen durch Kalibrierung noch Mal 1-2km zurck aber mehr sicherlich nicht" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1794611656171139269) 2024-05-26T06:08Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@ValentinMoeller Initial ist es das auch. Beim CATL lsst sich mittlerweile eine Abflachung der Kurve beobachten. Das dauert beim BYD einfach noch ein wenig" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1794660225674576375) 2024-05-26T09:21Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@MimMusMet This is the final step: Soft power limitation of the existing hardware ✅ 160kW for MY RWD / 4D3 in ✅ 110kW for M3 RWD / 3D7 in https://x.com/greentheonly/status/1794862320788906199t=Uqqlh8GdaKHIdikmHdnnFw&s=19 Hm interesting recent firmwares bring "soft performance limit" option to Model3 and ModelY listed as 110kW and 160kW respectively https://x.com/greentheonly/status/1794862320788906199t=Uqqlh8GdaKHIdikmHdnnFw&s=19 Hm interesting recent firmwares bring "soft performance limit" option to Model3 and ModelY listed as 110kW and 160kW respectively" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1794985332699525590) 2024-05-27T06:53Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "http://x.com/i/article/1795060982299209728 http://x.com/i/article/1795060982299209728" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1795368190316261856) 2024-05-28T08:15Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@JoshuaThePilot @elonmusk @Tesla Check your PM's. It's not too complicated" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1795479744747618791) 2024-05-28T15:38Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@geitenijs @bigdaddaddyboy @DominicBRNKMN Here is a. Power vs Speed vs SOC vs Cell Temp . chart of the US Panasonic in the old 2021-2023 M3P:" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1796561724918858169) 2024-05-31T15:17Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@daltybrewer So the new M3P is faster than 182mph Really Why do these stupid comparisons keep coming up There are great arguments to be made for the new M3P but comparing it to a Porsche [---] especially with wrong claims is not one of them" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1797268852390158845) 2024-06-02T14:07Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@daltybrewer .and this is criticism from someone who's daily is a M3P and who just drove the last gen Porsche [---] 4S and who was fairly disappointed by it. Still gonna criticise these comparisons. It is pure clickbait and by dropping some facts in the mix I probably fell for it too" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1797277279803838748) 2024-06-02T14:41Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@Ludoh @SebRedBu11 @b4ud3r I've just received feedback that Tesla sales can still see the VIN's so matching cars by motor and battery pack is still possible in the case of the MY RWD" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1798019427503645102) 2024-06-04T15:50Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@trymejohnny @tesla_fix @tagesanzeiger @watson_news @20min @Blickch @elonmusk @Tesla "This is fake news I have the facts" .while not providing any sort of misses the point of a truth or middleground finding argument doesn't it" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1798688812479975819) 2024-06-06T12:10Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "Latest update of the #M3P2024 comparison: EPA Data added confirming the rear bias Front motor went down by 25% Rear motor went up by 48%" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1798996818728300946) 2024-06-07T08:33Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "Generally low.I guess CON: As soon as there is surplus of Nevada Panasonic 2170L cells they will use them in the domestic Long Range instead of shipping M3P to us as these will then also qualify for the 7500$ tax credit. PRO: If the EU introduces higher import tax on Chinese EV's it might be worthwile for #Tesla to start shipping US made cars to Europe again. Not too likely but not off the table I guess" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1799011688022417730) 2024-06-07T09:33Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "Falls ihr ein relativ neues 2024er MY RWD habt dann hat das den Panasonic 82kWh Long Range Akku verbaut und ist nur per Software auf 67kWh beschrnkt. Tesla will Kufer dieses Fahrzeugs in Krze einen Unlock auf die volle Kapazitt via in App Kauf anbieten. 2000-3000 Dollar wird vermutet um einen vollwertigen LR RWD zu erhalten" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1799106191936688591) 2024-06-07T15:48Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@Arpe_DK Just the problem that these times start to rise when you are below 95% SOC and are only possible if the pack is warm/hot. The cars in the list will do this even better in winter and with an empty tank. The opposite to the M3P. Thats why comparisons to ICE cars are so difficult" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1799832454683152593) 2024-06-09T15:54Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "Tesla found the mistakes in the TC and corrected the Torque value and operating voltage for the #M3P2024: ➖4D2A Torque 448Nm 490Nm ➖4D2A Voltage 320V 335V" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1800160132288115096) 2024-06-10T13:36Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@Tesla marketing claims for the #M3P2024: +22% continuous power +32% peak power +16% peak torque Checking the data of the old and new car it seems that these claims are only valid for the Panasonic version. For the LG version the claims should be as follow: +22% continuous power +21% peak power +09% peak torque https://x.com/Tesla/status/1782804631359193275 https://x.com/Tesla/status/1782804631359193275" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1800166991128400058) 2024-06-10T14:03Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "Anyone else experiencing less effective AC (HVAC) in their #Tesla since #Update 2024.20.1 I need to set the temperature at least 2C lower than usual and still feel too warm in the car This is new to me and there are similar reports at #TFFforum from other users" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1800907720436117642) 2024-06-12T15:07Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@TeslaStars Keep us posted. Especially people from the warmer areas. It was sunny 23C here in Germany today so not too bad but still the cooling performance was weaker than usual" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1800967064754032910) 2024-06-12T19:03Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "The battery tech we currently see in the Tesla range (except Cybertruck) is 3-4 years old. So it doesn't take much for the Qilin packs to impress in comparison. Generally do like the cooling efficiency of those packs and the resulting capabilities in charge / discharge power but I currently doubt that a pack with this technology will be available in Tesla vehicles. It is much more likely a next generation LG cell as it is much cheaper to keep the basic design and replace the aged M50F cells with something more modern. This happened twice in the past with both Panasonic and LG. Only the CATL" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1819383227066323162) 2024-08-02T14:42Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "Actually the new one doesnt allow for higher discharge values but for a longer duration of the established ones. The new rear motor can pull peak power for longer as it has a higher motor power limit and is still a fair bit away of its actual peak. All LG Performance are limited to 1350A. The difference is only for how long those 1350A can be drawn. The old cars pull is for maybe 0.5s and the new car maybe for 2-3s" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1821970259001188633) 2024-08-09T18:02Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@Lala98808012 @geitenijs @SawyerMerritt It depends a lot on the country's incentives too. If you can get the price below a certain threshold you suddenly get the state to dig in with thousands on the purchase price or running costs" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1824384395840557367) 2024-08-16T09:55Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "I might be able to test the US spec car in the next two weeks but I am lacking a strip to do the 100-200kph runs in the US and prefer not to go to jail for this 😶 The US car did not only come with a stronger Panasonic from the start but it looks like theyve also increased the max current to the BMS limit which gives the car another 25kW over the old car with the same pack. The US Dragy times speak for themselves really. It will be interesting if they are milking the new car at low SOC as well as I can only re-emphasize how stressful this is for the cells" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1826664628400914619) 2024-08-22T16:55Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@psbroke No hints whatsover from all my sources but it has to happen. The LG is three years old and the Panasonic is four years old. This is stoneage technology in these fast pacing EV times" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1826664826367602790) 2024-08-22T16:56Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "This new certified 7-Seater was not Juniper that is why the dimensions didn't change. This could have been just an intermediate certification to have 7-Seats already certified for Juniper release. That part is unknown. All Model [--] and Model Y excluding BYD structural battery pack are certified under the same type certificate" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1827607817483640963) 2024-08-25T07:23Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "#ModelY #DriveUnit vs #Wheel vs #Battery efficiency comparison: - Actual unreleased WLTP results - X axis starts at 100Wh/km" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1827951788315529364) 2024-08-26T06:10Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "Additional info: - These consumption figures include (re-)charging losses. Actual road consumption was up to 13% lower. - The Chinese version of the 20" Michelin Pilot Sport EV has a less efficient rubber mixture. This tire is always used for testing as the worst case scenario" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1827989154711453942) 2024-08-26T08:39Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@janusPrime My guess is as good as yours but maybe the BYD has a more efficient AC to DC converter or the 3D6 performance inverter is of a higher grade to archive 840A and a side product is less heat loss. Though usually E-motors are more efficient when operating close to their upper limit" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1828067299607142471) 2024-08-26T13:49Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@OLBJAN @janusPrime Well. - MY RWD w. BYD structural battery pack = 1992kg - MY RWD w. CATl standard battery pack = 1984kg Both including a 75kg driver" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1828070495209541640) 2024-08-26T14:02Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "This is me spitballing reading between the lines and a bit of extra information. Facts: - Only a #ModelY #LongRange was certified with seven seats. - Only the LG 5L 79kWh pack was certified with seven seats. - Only the China made 3D3/3D7 Dual Motor combination was certified. Between the lines: - They could have certified the Model Y standard battery pack platform for 7-seats but just the long range motor battery combo. - They could have certified German made 3D3/4D1 or 3D3/4D3 motor combos that are produced there right now but they didn't. Theories in order of likelihood (highest first): -" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1828456448717971468) 2024-08-27T15:36Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@NCBirbhan @brandenflasch BT47 is a new option code. Panasonic 3L 82kWh NCA used to be BT42 and to my best knowledge this is still that same four year old battery pack. The BMS data and charge curve suggest the same" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1831958678465081625) 2024-09-06T07:32Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "There was a M3LR RWD in late [----]. That is probably the Tesla with the best recharged km value of them all but they are rare in Europe. What o meant was the also rare Q2/2021 M3LR that was delivered with the 82kWh Panasonic NCA pack of the M3P [----]. Identifiable via the variant E3LD in the reg papers or via the claimed WLTP of 614km/640km but not to be confused with the 614km cars of Q4/2021. Those had the slower charging LG packs that are used in Europe until today" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1832458647663706498) 2024-09-07T16:39Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "Great participation in the #Tesla #Degradation #Survey at 👌 Just one advice for those who have received a #ModelY out of #GigaBerlin from around the second half of [----]. In these cars the rated range calculation has been changed. For accurate results please select model year [----] with 393km at the end. Y6LR = CATL LFP Y7CR = BYD LFP https://teslatech.streamlit.app/ https://teslatech.streamlit.app/ https://teslatech.streamlit.app/ https://teslatech.streamlit.app/" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1834149470130323629) 2024-09-12T08:38Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@keksznet Yes with Refresh [----] the charging power and in some cases also the net usable capacity went backwards. Comparing the old [----] Panasonic with the 2020/2021 LG packs this was a big setback of which they never recovered with a better pack until today" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1842431379168018680) 2024-10-05T05:07Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "According to the #Model3 section on the @Tesla website the launch is imminent 😉" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1842807647872897054) 2024-10-06T06:02Z [----] followers, 16K engagements "@GHtSP @LastBoyScout87 @Smudlik2 @Tim_at_worck You can filter all the batteries and views yourself at the #TeslaTech project: Here is the filter set to the LFP packs: (CATL 6C / CATL 6L / BYD 7C) https://teslatech.streamlit.app/ https://teslatech.streamlit.app/" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1842965593584197938) 2024-10-06T16:30Z [----] followers, [--] engagements ".and here it is 👌👍" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1843557647578214842) 2024-10-08T07:42Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "No premium interior for the LR RWD sadly @Arpe_DK reached out to a #Tesla sales contact and got the confirmation. https://x.com/PhilipPowerss/status/1843605465265025064t=wxHha_Gs70Ptkbh6EmAy5g&s=19 @Arpe_DK @Tesla Correct https://x.com/PhilipPowerss/status/1843605465265025064t=wxHha_Gs70Ptkbh6EmAy5g&s=19 @Arpe_DK @Tesla Correct" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1843615670204018856) 2024-10-08T11:33Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "Will the M3LR RWD [----] get the 3D6 Performance DU 🔘M3 SR RWD [----] / 1836kg / 6.1s➡3D7 = 230kW 🔘M3 LR RWD [----] / 1810kg / 5.9s➡3D7 = 240kW 🔘M3 LR RWD [----] / 1801kg / 5.3s➡3D1 = 269kW 🔘M3 LR RWD [----] / 1822kg / 5.3s➡3D = Kw Just by comparing power to weight of previous RWD models. ✳The [----] needs the 3D6 Performance motor to achieve the claimed acceleration time✳" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1843738415965319343) 2024-10-08T19:41Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@Arpe_DK The paperwork will state 208kW if it comes with the 3D7 base (unlikely as shown) or 3D6 = 235kW (more likely). I think this will be tough luck in regards to insurance pricing in DK. These are certified power levels. My comparison is based on actual BMS battery power" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1843745878978507074) 2024-10-08T20:10Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@greggertruck This is messing with my thesis Completely unacceptable 😂 https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1844093743487725680 🛞🛞Where size does matter 🛞🛞 The #Model3 #LongRange RWD is the first ever #Tesla to be WLTP tested on 18" wheels. This decision was key to receive the 700+km rating. You see four different drive unit generations in this line-up but the key consumption difference is wheel https://t.co/encPghMfJ2 https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1844093743487725680 🛞🛞Where size does matter 🛞🛞 The #Model3 #LongRange RWD is the first ever #Tesla to be WLTP tested on 18" wheels." [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1844654287080784183) 2024-10-11T08:20Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "Sadly this version is only produced and sold in Europe and even here that very rear motor was discontinued some time last year Maybe worth a look on the used market 🫰👌 (I meant the third and fourth row in the chart) https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1844658903977508905 @Smudlik2 Actually I think the crazier numbers are the ones you don't spot instantly. For example the third result in that table The MY RWD. - without "Highland / Juniper efficiency magic" - with those cheap [----] Hankook tires - with 2cm wider tires - with that higher SUV front surface" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1844674555081547907) 2024-10-11T09:41Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "On another note. I appreciate your private messages about the Tesla Robotaxi event yesterday but there really is nothing for me to talk about as this has been an AI/FSD event. The car better be below 30k$ because it is a small 2-seater car without much stuff on and in it🤔" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1844675926744854801) 2024-10-11T09:46Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "If someone is looking for that most efficient Model Y (BYD/3D6) on the CPO / used market.This VIN combination is a 100% hit rate:" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1845380098876129286) 2024-10-13T08:24Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@rmblue2 Theoretical power limit of the drive unit after [--] minutes of running with unlimited power. No connection to the actual battery pack or real world driving limitations. It's in your registration papers but the only relevant usage I found was insurance classification" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1846152300525498433) 2024-10-15T11:33Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@mariosteiner0 Well now we have the answer. Three settings which likely resemble two power levels and the standard being maximum current" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1850914429866484036) 2024-10-28T14:56Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "3D6/3D7 are the second generation of the Model [--] drive unit and first generation with hairpin stators. Until today this is the latest DU you get on the Model [--] except Highland perfort which gets generation [---]. M3 LR RWD is 3D6D with 90kW / 235kW officially. When you connect ScanMyTesla an log Canbus power you should see 259-269kW of motor power as this car is limited by the motor (840A Inverter) most of the time not the battery which is rare in the Tesla universe" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1851367705292546096) 2024-10-29T20:57Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "There was a (Europe wide) survey when it became apparent that more and more of these Panasonic - Made in China packs were failing. It became quite apparent that mostly the Chinese versions were failing and also that the packs that hadn't failed were showing a higher degradation than their US made equivalents. I have now imported the old dataset and adjusted the Teslatech app so you can show/hide cars with replaced battery packs as well. These will show up as icon in the graph. https://teslatech.streamlit.app/" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1851547558163739077) 2024-10-30T08:51Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@LimitingThe This time I can't but I will release some more infos about the first car with that pack (likely tomorrow). The numbers are Tesla's own numbers. Sometimes they don't update every line and old data is leftover in new motors and packs but these updated lines look plausible" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1851981928146125264) 2024-10-31T13:37Z [----] followers, [----] engagements "@liam_rzx Neither the CATL nor the possible next LG pack will qualify for the tax credit I believe. That's why I doubt we will see their launch in the US" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1852013239606952289) 2024-10-31T15:42Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@robertvg @eugen707 Maybe both but don't expect those Chinese superfigures as this base LFP pack can't overshine the Long Range packs made by Panasonic and LG. This was already a weird situation with the BYD Blade pack when compared the current Long Range LG recharge rate" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1852250137541607661) 2024-11-01T07:23Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "They are facing competition on the Model [--] side as well. For years. Ionic [--] BMW i4 VW ID3 BYD Seal. Model [--] and Y always used the same battery packs as they are basically the same car. Only the structural packs (BYDblade/Tesla4680) could never be used in the Model [--] and those were base to mid range packs. I don't see a reason for Tesla to leave energy on the Table in the case of the Model [--]. I also doubt any Long Range pack with a capacity that gets close to the 99.#kWh of the ModelS/X. Tesla has shown in the past that they are even willing to reduce pack sizes (significantly) if they can" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1852268137502122100) 2024-11-01T08:35Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@TSLA2035RETIRE Not yet. Maybe in the coming days" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1852435568023552174) 2024-11-01T19:40Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@_MDV_ The Netherlands with 80/100kph most of the time is the ideal place to archive the official WLTP numbers 😉👍" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1852724111467803003) 2024-11-02T14:47Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "When the 4th gen DU was launched it was supposed to be the usual base motor 4D5 and performance motor 4D1 line up. Just prior launch Tesla decided to simplify it and only use the 4D1. So all cars got the DU with the performance inverter. About one year later the 4D3 was released as a replacement of the 4D1 with the key difference being a lighter and more efficient rotor. They maintained the simple strategy of one drive unit with a performance Inverter (840A). The new "real" performance motor is the 4D1 with an even stronger 950A inverter which is called the 4D2. Expect Juniper to be delivered" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1852788143637832185) 2024-11-02T19:01Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@gaminfr59 @pearl_tesla Looks like a worthy revival That thing with two Tesla 3D1/980 motors front and rear and coupled with a Panasonic 80-90kWh 400+V NCA pack. 🚀🚀🚀 I miss my old E30 pretty badly ❤" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1853744437907628365) 2024-11-05T10:21Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@GuusMeij Let me see if I can dig up anything interesting from the limited data that is there now about VC42. The thorough analysis will only follow in the coming days" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1854120276469981660) 2024-11-06T11:14Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@GuusMeij For now I can only confirm that the new #Model3 RWD with the #CATL6M and 520km WLTP will be introduced in this release. More VC42 changes in the coming days" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1854140392251199799) 2024-11-06T12:34Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@fritz_rauer @nullkommazero Die achte Generation des Porsche [---]. Also der aktuelle Porsche 911" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1854556696842035547) 2024-11-07T16:09Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@tom_meise That's not something I would recommend Although in China this seems to become a regular thing. The HV parts don't seem to short even if the car is already swimming so the connector's are well insulated. The Cybertruck is the only car where is allowed under certain conditions" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1854568525534478485) 2024-11-07T16:56Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@gebrauchtetesla Tesla starts selling [----] models in Q4 usually meaning they are selling the [----] model already. Juniper won't be identifiable via Model year [----] on the invoice or the VIN number. I believe the last time we saw a Model Y with matching release year and model year was in Q1/2022" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1854827298513359342) 2024-11-08T10:04Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@nyctophobia23 True words. You have to be able to look past the fact how awful the person on top has become or turned out to be. You need to be able to see Tesla as an isolated entity that produces very good EV's . Maybe also ignore the mostly terrible Tesla Service if you need it. 😕" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1854851163817976125) 2024-11-08T11:39Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@cybrtrkguy That old pack was a Panasonic NCA not LG NMC. Discharge power wise this switch is actually a downgrade and the car will be heavier afterwards but the charge curve and capacity will make up for it" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1855239688673452460) 2024-11-09T13:23Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@TheReal_MisterX @BMW @Tesla @Out_of_Spec @itskyleconner @brandenflasch @StateOfChargeEV That Panasonic 2170L out of Nevada has 82kWh net usable. Not 79kWh. Sadly most of them don't get that high even when new" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1859263505590820996) 2024-11-20T15:52Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "@onlyforadawong Currently it is only certain that the RWD will get a slightly bigger pack with 62.5kWh. I am expecting an update for the LG pack that currently has 79.5kWh net usable but there is no hard data in the updated pack yet. I am expecting more data around Christmas time" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1866460800820650484) 2024-12-10T12:31Z [----] followers, [--] engagements "@electricfelix @brandenflasch - Charge curve: LG does 250kW for mere seconds below 10%. The Panasonic has a 250kW plateau from 1% to at least 14%. - Battery sticker: Panasonic is 123442#-##-# while LG is 17000##-##-#. - CANBUS Full Pack When New: Panasonic is 82.1kWh / LG is 78.8kWh" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1867695776903659835) 2024-12-13T22:19Z [----] followers, [---] engagements "The new LFP battery pack by CATL was already certified in the last round. This one seem to be only a minor update. My expected timeline is the certification update of the new long range battery pack around Christmas time and release of the Model [--] with the new packs and Model Y Juniper around the 15th of January" [X Link](https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1867881547132452957) 2024-12-14T10:37Z [----] followers, [----] engagements Limited data mode. Full metrics available with subscription: lunarcrush.com/pricing
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Social Influence
Social category influence automotive brands technology brands stocks countries luxury brands finance travel destinations social networks celebrities fashion brands
Social topic influence tesla #940, lg, panasonic, $6752t, byd, $003550ks, china, the new, in the, porsche
Top accounts mentioned or mentioned by @tesla @porsche @alojoh @broodro0ster @tff @brandenflasch @daturaspecies @junni @arpedk @icostinas @guusmeij @aresiusking @onlyforadawong @roamingnorway @limitingthe @banumraz @modelyturkiye @geitenijs @lala98808012 @silv3rfish41
Top assets mentioned Tesla, Inc. (TSLA) Alphabet Inc Class A (GOOGL) Ferrari N.V. (RACE)
Top Social Posts
Top posts by engagements in the last [--] hours
"Theoretical Power curve of the #Tesla #Model3 #Performance #Plaid #Highland [----] with the #5D1 rear motor and current #LG5L battery pack. Main difference should be from 100kph to 200kph"
X Link 2023-09-23T07:56Z [---] followers, [----] engagements
"@icostinas I'd say around 0.5s improvement if they stick with the current LG 5L battery pack. The LG NMC packs have their strong side on precise capacity estimation and low SOC power delivery but peak charge and discharge power is not one of them"
X Link 2023-09-24T16:32Z [---] followers, [---] engagements
"If you've always wondered what actually happens when you buy #AccelerationBoost. Check out my article within #TFF forum here:"
X Link 2023-09-27T09:29Z [---] followers, [---] engagements
"This is probably the only time ever that I am asking you to please share this with your friends This is a survey about #Tesla #battery #degradation. To take part you just have to fill out this form: Results can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LmyllKqJWBr8J_LKVIAimsOigT4-hpfi5NeFJR8qZhQ/editusp=sharing https://forms.gle/5KNj6d9VdT4YSC1p9 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LmyllKqJWBr8J_LKVIAimsOigT4-hpfi5NeFJR8qZhQ/editusp=sharing https://forms.gle/5KNj6d9VdT4YSC1p9"
X Link 2023-09-28T14:36Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"The new #US #ModelY #RWD raised the question about its battery chemistry. #NCA vs #LFP in the #Model3 #RWD is about 135kg in weight difference. The claimed weight on the US #Tesla Website hints at #LFP. Probably the #CATL6L #LFP62kWh"
X Link 2023-10-03T11:44Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"The #BYD #Blade #7C battery pack in the #Tesla #ModelY #madeingermany is known for its supreme charging power but I am still puzzled by its immense loss of usable capacity over time I don't dare to call it #degradation just yet as it might still be a calibration thing"
X Link 2023-10-04T10:00Z [----] followers, 20.3K engagements
"Feel free to share your data in our large scale battery #Tesla #battery #survey: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LmyllKqJWBr8J_LKVIAimsOigT4-hpfi5NeFJR8qZhQ/editusp=sharing https://forms.gle/RUSRrpmCaUx3XbWr7 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LmyllKqJWBr8J_LKVIAimsOigT4-hpfi5NeFJR8qZhQ/editusp=sharing https://forms.gle/RUSRrpmCaUx3XbWr7"
X Link 2023-10-04T10:01Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"First European customers have received their #Model3 #Highland registration papers. My initial observation about the #towhitch and #AccelerationBoost is confirmed in the paperwork. All cars are prepared for the #towhitch if you order it or not. #Retrofit is very likely"
X Link 2023-10-05T08:21Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"Here is the confirmation of my earlier claim that the acceleration increase of the #ModelY #RWD #MIC is due to a change of the rear motor to the #3D6 🙂 Same battery pack same weight same EAP. 3D7 - 3D6 194kw - 220kw https://t.co/SuCqzrJBd4 Same battery pack same weight same EAP. 3D7 - 3D6 194kw - 220kw https://t.co/SuCqzrJBd4"
X Link 2023-10-06T11:17Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@iSunrise007 @xiaoteshushu Nope. The plaid motor is the 5D1/5D2. 3D6 is the Hairpin stator Performance Motor that was introduced mid [----] in China. There was a Model Y RWD with the same motor and battery back in Q4/2021 already. Then it was switched to the slower 3D7 base motor"
X Link 2023-10-06T11:30Z [---] followers, [--] engagements
"@enhauto Actually apart from the App not running on my Pixel [--] I have a few more bugs now. - Acceleration Mode toggle doesn't work anymore. Can't switch between sport/chill. - Regen is showing wrong at 25% although it is at 100%. - Top Left says "Roll" although I am in "Auto Hold" mode"
X Link 2023-10-10T22:52Z [---] followers, [--] engagements
".and here ist the confirmation that #Tesla will retrofit the #towhitch on #Model3 #Highland 🙂👍"
X Link 2023-11-01T08:29Z [---] followers, [---] engagements
"@dm_ms If this turns out to be the most basic form of #AdaptiveHeadlights (cornering lights / directional headlights) this technology was introduced [---] years ago with real mass production in the 1960's 🙂 #AdaptiveHeadlights is used for different tech levels up to full Matrix LED"
X Link 2023-12-20T09:26Z [--] followers, [---] engagements
"@dm_ms The wording leaves a lot of interpretation but Tesla is usually referring to "High Beam" and "Low Beam". #AdaptiveMainBeam means IMHO that the main headlights can adapt to different situations not just high/low as the current #AutoHighBeam feature"
X Link 2023-12-20T09:48Z [---] followers, [---] engagements
"Milestone [----] datasets is reached 🏅 Thanks for all the participation so far and way to go 🙂 Tesla Battery Degradation Survey: Results and Analysis:"
X Link 2023-12-21T21:29Z [---] followers, [---] engagements
"@JJ_Zarathustra @Tesla The constant is (if at all) only related to US EPA consumption. Even if a car is sold in Europe ( WLTP) or China (CLTC). All cars (same type) use the same constant everywhere If there is no EPA test or no equivalent car in the US then Tesla uses a generic constant initially"
X Link 2023-12-24T20:42Z [--] followers, [--] engagements
"Spoiler: There is a good chance that we will see a similar release for Refreshed #ModelS and #ModelX in the coming days. Stay tuned 👍"
X Link 2024-02-01T09:50Z [---] followers, [----] engagements
"@kendoshh I suggest you have a look at my complete list of these TC revisions and check how correct the reported changes have been in the past:"
X Link 2024-02-01T13:38Z [---] followers, [---] engagements
"@CynicLib No more info on that in the documentation. Probably only a new listed supplier for these parts"
X Link 2024-02-01T14:14Z [---] followers, [---] engagements
"@sepp_reitberger War das eine Aussage der Porsche Pressevertreter mit dem "da ginge sogar noch mehr" Denn die die Rechnung 800V x 1100A fr theoretische Leistung geht nicht auf. Bei 1100A hat der Akku nicht mehr 800V sondern eher 630-650V. Die angegebenen 700kW sind sicherlich nah am Limit"
X Link 2024-02-07T09:09Z [---] followers, [--] engagements
"@andreiiulian90 I can only repeat myself. Added kWh is not a worthy calculation to estimate usable battery size. Tesla API adds 45% of fictional energy on every charge to this value for a start. In non LFP Cars like yours the buffer is always fixed at 45%"
X Link 2024-02-12T12:06Z [---] followers, [--] engagements
"@fabinulleins @Chhllrm There were two key arguments: - 5D1 plaid Motor is too premium/expensive for the Model [--]. - Why delay the performance if 5D1 is readily available Using the cheap but potent mass motor 4D1 which is available in every GF and delaying until a new powerful battery pack is ready"
X Link 2024-02-29T12:28Z [---] followers, [---] engagements
"Addition as the reports about my post are partly inaccurate: - The 4D1 rear motor is already in production in the US and Germany since early [----] and exclusively in the #ModelY. - The battery pack is the power limiting factor so we haven't seen an increase in performance yet"
X Link 2024-02-29T18:59Z [---] followers, [---] engagements
"- The 4D1 is not the #Plaid motor. Plaid Motors are called 5D1/5D2. - The strongest battery pack currently is the Panasonic 82kWh NCA and even that one cant saturate current front and rear motors"
X Link 2024-02-29T19:01Z [---] followers, [---] engagements
"@Smudlik2 @Electric_Maik My advice is to disregard the unfiltered view and focus on the long term projection below. To see which cars use which battery pack I have created "Akkuwiki" and obviously there is much more information within the survey table:"
X Link 2024-03-04T11:39Z [---] followers, [---] engagements
"@Electric_Maik More like 11% don't you think The previous 3D6 was rated at 320V x 840A = 269kW which was only saturated by the Panasonic never by the LG and even then only for a split second around 70-75kph"
X Link 2024-03-05T08:40Z [---] followers, [---] engagements
"@geitenijs Actually low SOC power delivery is one of its few strong parts see below. Though generally hot and full peak power was worse than Panasanic indeed I don't know which iteration of LG its is but all LG packs (5C/5L) were 355V nominal voltage and all Panasonic were 320V"
X Link 2024-03-05T10:31Z [---] followers, [----] engagements
"Just to kill some #trustmebro accusations Tesla's #M3P2024 (BAT) data provided to S.Korean authorities vs #M3LR2024 (LG5L) data provided to EU authorities: - Nominal Capacity 230Ah✅ - Nominal Voltage 355V✅ - 82kWh❌ - 79kWh This combination is unique to LG5L 79kWh NMC"
X Link 2024-03-06T10:52Z [---] followers, [----] engagements
"With all the reporting about a new 600hp+ #Model3 #Performance #Ludicrous.people seem to forget that: - Combined motor power is a theoretical value👎 - Battery power is the limiting factor👍 - The expected LG pack (5L) peaks at 565hp .briefly at 100% SOC when hot"
X Link 2024-03-07T12:56Z [---] followers, [----] engagements
"US Cars with the stronger Panasonic pack peak at around 590hp"
X Link 2024-03-07T13:02Z [---] followers, [---] engagements
"@icostinas The question is how if nominal voltage and nominal capacity have been unchanged. LG is indeed way overdue with another update - LG 5C M48 75kWh 355V NMC released Q4/2020 - LG 5L M50F 79kWh 355V NMC released Q4/2021 Even two years later #Highland LR still got this "old" pack"
X Link 2024-03-07T14:10Z [---] followers, [---] engagements
"@icostinas .funny thing is: They could re-release the 2018/2019 Panasonic [--] pack and it would be a huge step up 🤐 - Superfast charging on par with Model S Refresh [----] - Great discharge power - 30hp up - Same size basically 78-79kWh - Lowest degradation over time of all NMC/NCA packs"
X Link 2024-03-07T14:16Z [---] followers, [---] engagements
"Look at the claimed power curve of the old 3D3 front motor and new 4D3B "rear" motor. - Peak power is too low for a rear motor - 4D3B was not WLTP tested and only marked as "optional" - 4D3B is clearly aimed to be used as front motor (Power curve also suggests PSM🙂🚀)"
X Link 2024-03-15T12:17Z [---] followers, [----] engagements
"@IovePianoBlack Congrats 🎉 Can you report your indicated rated range at 100%"
X Link 2024-03-16T09:19Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"Updated #Tesla Motor / #DriveUnit Overview"
X Link 2024-03-19T08:32Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@SergioViudes M3P was delivered with 3D3/3D1 from the start in [----] and only switched battery pack (82kWh NCA) in Q4/2020. M3P was delivered from Q3/2021 with two different rear motors (3D1 wire / 3D6 hairpin) and from Q1/2022 only with 3D6. The Battery changed Panasonic to LG in Q2/2022"
X Link 2024-03-21T13:49Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"#Hairpin #Driveunit Power/Torque comparison 🧪Baseline🧪 - #ModelY #DualMotor - #3D3 Front DU - #LG 5L 79kWh #NMC at 99% / 50C - 3D7 + Acceleration Boost - 4D1 + Acceleration Boost - 3D6 Performance - 4D1 Performance My2: #ModelY LR with 4D1+AB = Best 🚀 for the 💵"
X Link 2024-03-22T09:33Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"The Fremont VIN in the leaked #Model3 #Ludicrous video does not decode as a #Ludicrous model which should have a ''T" as the 8th digit but this might be due to being pre-production. Shanghai testing vehicles have the "T" Also check out the new "driving dynamics" drive modes"
X Link 2024-03-23T08:36Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@icostinas Yes. Unless they power limit the Panasonic (highly unlikely) that will be absolutely the case This has been the case for two years now and I didn't see customers complain about it so why change a running system"
X Link 2024-03-24T18:05Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@keeevTESLA Less than we hoped for You remember I said I wanted to be wrong with pretty much all my projections. I wanted a PSM front motor for solid highway power and a new revision of the Panasonic NCA pack with around 86kWh for higher peak power and a better charging curve. Oh well"
X Link 2024-03-24T19:57Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"#Model3 #Ludicrous #InsaneMode Projection Tesla Owners Handbook: "Insane: increases peak torque by approximately [--] percent (available on Performance All-Wheel Drive vehicles not equipped with the Ludicrous upgrade)" Up to 950Nm without without the torque limiter"
X Link 2024-03-27T10:00Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@Lala98808012 There is one scenario: When the MIC M3P [----] was discontinued there was a sudden surplus of 840A inverters so Tesla put them in the MY RWD (3D6=255kW) increasing its acceleration down to 5.9s. So.wait for the discontinuation of MIG MYP to see the MY RWD getting 255kW / 5.9s"
X Link 2024-03-27T13:11Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"#Model3 #Performance [----] comparison: ❌Ludicrous is 10kg heavier ➖Battery Pack / 415kW #PowerLimit is unchanged ✅4D2A rear motor is 35kW up in power ❌Torque is down by 2Nm ❌WLTP range is down by 19km (+2Wh/km) ➖Maximum speed is unchanged ✅Wider rear tires"
X Link 2024-04-05T06:44Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@NCBirbhan @SynSUN_Official The Refresh [----] started with a Panasonic with usable 82kWh but this pack is only used in US production today. They stopped using it in Europe after Q1/2022"
X Link 2024-04-05T06:47Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@Pres_M_Lincoln This is official type certificate information now. It just matches the Korean leaks and my interpretations exactly"
X Link 2024-04-05T07:02Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"#Model3 #Ludicrous expected differences: - Panasonic 3L NCA 82kWh435kW #PowerLimit - Empty mass +20kg (heavier) due to heavier Battery - EPA range [---] miles (calculated)"
X Link 2024-04-05T07:30Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@Renato77678189 Das wird auch hchste Zeit Tesla hat [----] mit dem Panasonic 78kWh NCA Akku eine absolute Wucht auf den Markt gebracht. Hohe Lade/Entladeleistung und niedrige Degradation. Seitdem ging es mal abgesehen von der tollen Ladeleistung des BYD Blade quasi nur seit- oder rckwrts"
X Link 2024-04-05T10:38Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@Joey83433613 @Pres_M_Lincoln Von versptete Registrierung whrend man lngst bestellen kann bis zu drei Monate nach Registrierung ist alles dabei"
X Link 2024-04-05T11:19Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"More data: https://tff-forum.de/t/wiki-model-3-model-y-technische-veraenderungen/100784/1367u=eivissa https://tff-forum.de/t/wiki-model-3-model-y-technische-veraenderungen/100784/1367u=eivissa"
X Link 2024-04-05T14:11Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"Since you've asked for it. This is my expectation of how the #Panasonic and (LG) cars compare in front/rear motor power and total power to each other. This is based of the data provided by Tesla (torque/power vs rpm) and my (SMT) measurements of the current older cars"
X Link 2024-04-05T15:06Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@9phyok32 @GeorgesSweere My [----] M3P with the stronger Panasonic and super light aftermarket wheels does 9.2s 100-200. There is room for improvement. Absolutely"
X Link 2024-04-05T20:08Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@9phyok32 @GeorgesSweere 2018-2021 the car stayed the same even with the change to a newer Panasonic NCA and a new rear motor during that time. From [----] Q2 the Asian and European car got a little slower with introduction of the LG NMC pack. Here is small test from back then. https://tff-forum.de/t/model-3-performance-2022-panasonic-vs-lg/210880u=eivissa https://tff-forum.de/t/model-3-performance-2022-panasonic-vs-lg/210880u=eivissa"
X Link 2024-04-05T20:16Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@GuusMeij @hubb_kyle Whatever the papers said in the past like [---] [---] and now 461kW. The actual power is purely limited by the Battery: - Panasonic 78kWh (2018-) 430kW - Panasonic 82kWh (2021-) 435kW - LG 5L 79kWh (2021-) 415kW These values are 100% SOC / 50C. 99% and 49C will be less"
X Link 2024-04-06T11:19Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"Remember my tweet about the new low power 4D3B motor that I just couldn't figure out Tesla just re-certified the #3D7 at even lower power of only110kWfor the #M3 #Highland RWD. The second #Tesla #RWD that is getting a possible (optional) downgrade To be clear: - There is not much left to support the theory of the #4D3B being a replacement of the #3D3A. - I am still trying to figure out what the low power #4D3B 159kW motor will be used for. This is by far the lowest power level that #Tesla has certified for any M3/MY https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1771150438898770085 To be clear: - There"
X Link 2024-04-07T18:30Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@ctash This pack has been introduced back in Q4/2020 and is used until today. The cells are produced by Panasonic right next to the Fremont factory. So I believe it should be eligible as it has been in the past. I would seek confirmation from US drivers though"
X Link 2024-04-09T05:40Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"#ModelY weight comparison: - The #3D3A Front DU adds about 100kg - #LG NMC pack (vs #CATL LFP) adds 75kg in weight but 25% in capacity. - The #BYD LFP60 structural battery pack adds 8kg over the non-structural #CATL LFP62. - The #Uberturbines on the #MYP are heavy beasts"
X Link 2024-04-09T10:17Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"These are the actual #BatteryPack (assembled) weights according to #Tesla interal data sheets: - LG Chem 5L 79kWh NMC 456kg 5.7kg/kWh - Panasonic 3L 82kWh NCA 475kg 5.8kg/kWh - CATL 6L 62kWh LFP 476kg 7.7kg/kWh - BYD 7C 60kWh LFP 496kg 8.3kg/kWh"
X Link 2024-04-09T12:20Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@GhostAndSkaterr Yes. Both stated as [----] cells and 5.0Ah per cell. Different chemistry and nominal voltage resulting in about 2.5kWh net more for the Panasonic"
X Link 2024-04-09T12:32Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@Rainmaker1973 Weird how this line up could include absolute rarities like V4 and R8 but not have icons in it like R5 (Audi) or V8 Flatplane (Ferrari)"
X Link 2024-04-10T06:53Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"#ModelY with #BYD #Blade received #VS10 certification - #HW4 Autopilot - #3D6 Performance DU 235kW255kW - #4D1 Performance DU 235kW255kW My 2ct: - The power increase will remain #paperpower as long as Tesla keeps the 700A215kW battery #powerlimit https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1773615381531304283 #ModelY #AP #HW4🤖certified in Europe with #VC35 - AP HW [--] Hardware for the ModelY - ModelY LR RWD reconfirmed incl. high power version with 255kW 🚀 - Introduction of new rear motor DU #4D3 reconfirmed +more stuff. https://t.co/R2LDFrv9Dc https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1773615381531304283"
X Link 2024-04-10T16:54Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@devix195 Yes. No hardware changes. This is actually after it went down. 3D6 started early [----] with the BYD at 235kW then 220kW now 255kW. Battery always provided 215kW. BYD never left since March [----]. Grnheide started to deliver cars with CATL packs too in late 2023"
X Link 2024-04-10T20:06Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@AVILOO_BATTERY @frankfeil .oder hier: - Fehlende eindeutige Zuordnung dass hier WLTP 567km (Panasonic 82kWh) zhlt nicht 547km (LG) - 779kWh bei Neuzustand ist zu niedrig. WLTP wurden mit echten 820kWh erreicht und dies sollte damit auch Grundlage der Berechnung sein. Tolles Konzept aber Details"
X Link 2024-04-11T12:29Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@JailanX3 @RandomAtom3 Yo aun pienso que lo van a ofrecer justo debajo 60k. Por lo menos en Alemnia pero los precios ya estan muy parecidos en Europa"
X Link 2024-04-12T15:21Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"#Model3 #Performance #Ludicrous will be: H5LD-PKp2s5T2W (if the 500kg tow hitch is included)"
X Link 2024-04-12T15:30Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@Muhuhuhu228211 @copyPaste1231 To make it even more confusing.battery and motor weren't changed just the front DU removed. I can't tell you the source for HW4 introduction but a Tesla sales rep is usually the last one to be giving you accurate intel"
X Link 2024-04-13T15:46Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@Seb_Gode @Tesla @MimMusMet Yes but with printed power it's different. This happened once with the Model [--] LR/P in late [----] when these got more power OTA. Though this was listed in the certification from then on and all newer cars had the higher power figures. If Tesla did that in Turkey the 10% is gone"
X Link 2024-04-19T08:25Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"460+PS/HP 😂"
X Link 2024-04-23T16:16Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@HatforceSec My measurements back in [----] with these two packs in the #M3P head to head concluded around 22kW more for the #Panasonic which is a little less than 40hp but close enough. https://tff-forum.de/t/model-3-performance-2022-panasonic-vs-lg/210880 https://tff-forum.de/t/model-3-performance-2022-panasonic-vs-lg/210880"
X Link 2024-04-23T16:41Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@stealth_plaid The only difference is the Battery Pack. The motors front/rear are identical (3D3A/4D2A). Since the battery power limit is always the limiting factor in the performance this is the key difference In the US you get a better Panasonic Pack: - Faster DC Charges - +20kW - +3 kWh"
X Link 2024-04-23T18:39Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@Techgnostik @SawyerMerritt 2170L Panasonic Cells. Known since late [----]. Built in the US in contrast to the LG M50F cells used in the LR"
X Link 2024-04-23T21:05Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@mattkocaj Well now I get it. You meant 460hp right It was just a typo. That is most likely #Tesla finally acknowledging the power difference of these two packs (LG vs Panasonic) indeed. The question is why they are stacking the claimed power so low as 460hp is certainly not 100%"
X Link 2024-04-24T12:06Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"#Model3 #Performance Tow Hitch confirmed ✅ It isn't available to be ordered from the configurator but a the user #nonkonformist@TFF was able to add it to is order via contact to a @Tesla sales agent 👍 💸 [----] incl. tax"
X Link 2024-04-25T06:05Z [----] followers, 13.5K engagements
"Still puzzling how @tesla representatives can keep repeating that their new #M3P is more efficient and can drive further while the measured consumption went up + range went down by 5% in all markets (Compared to the old car with identical battery pack) What am I missing"
X Link 2024-04-25T17:30Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@PiFischii @Lala98808012 In case you were wondering how the optional 19" wheels were looking. This is pulled from the Tesla China website were these are being offered:"
X Link 2024-04-25T17:37Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@MSCastelli @Tesla My 2ct: For new customers it is quite a no-brainer For people who are driving Pre-Refresh Models or Non-P this might also be worth it. If you already have a Refreshed Performance especially with Panasonic pack not worth a switch in my opinion"
X Link 2024-04-25T17:46Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@hyp36rmax @MSCastelli @Tesla That's really my position right now. I have Refreshed Performance with quite a few mods on it and all the stuff you want like Ryzen MCU Panasonic 82kWh pack and the 3D6 rear drive unit with the super light rotor. Also the Refresh headlights are better in my opinion"
X Link 2024-04-25T17:49Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@OLBJAN @Tesla Guter Punkt aber dennoch hat sich die Range in vergleichbarem Masse auch unter WLTP Bedingungen reduziert. Ja das echte (eigentlich geheime) Ergebnis war identisch mit dem alten aber selbst das ist ja noch keine Verbesserung"
X Link 2024-04-25T18:06Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@AdamSinger So What is it then More coal burning or "Germany hitting a record low" https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/04/germany-emissions-hit-70-year-low-reduces-reliance-coal https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/04/germany-emissions-hit-70-year-low-reduces-reliance-coal"
X Link 2024-04-26T13:15Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@obgyn_pt @Tesla Yes EPA changed But: Applying the EPA range reduction of the MYP (-8%) onto legacy M3P (315 miles) you get [---] miles. New M3P is advertised at [---] miles. In China range went down 8% In Europe range went down 4% With reduced rolling resistance + more efficient rear DU"
X Link 2024-04-26T14:09Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@Twizz7871 @Tesla Reduziert man die Range des US M3P um den Unterschied der Kapazitt (4%) wren es ca. [---] Meilen also 7% Unterschied zum US M3LR. In Deutschland ist der Unterschied 16%. Das ist in der Tat ein krasser Unterschied"
X Link 2024-04-26T17:00Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"#ModelY RWD [----] ❌CATL 6L LFP60 (2022/2023) ✅Panasonic 3L NCA82 SW locked to 4.1V Capa lock to 67.5kWh matching the [----] AWD Same declared range as [----] LFP car with 62kWh Old 3D1 / [---] DU What a weird thing Good find @brandenflasch https://x.com/brandenflasch/status/1784313703636021618t=pj-8a0oqiW1wHziVnb1bVg&s=19 Surprisingly Good Range - [----] @Tesla Model Y RWD (US Spec) 70mph Highway Range Test https://t.co/YBAVRePxoa https://t.co/26yHoM8hDp https://x.com/brandenflasch/status/1784313703636021618t=pj-8a0oqiW1wHziVnb1bVg&s=19 Surprisingly Good Range - [----] @Tesla Model Y RWD (US Spec) 70mph"
X Link 2024-04-28T06:45Z [----] followers, 15.5K engagements
"@psbroke @brandenflasch With the BYD Blade we have a RWD car that charges even faster but less capacity and energy density. Also not as fast. This car must pull a fair bit better than CATL or BYD"
X Link 2024-04-28T06:53Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@JJ_Zarathustra @brandenflasch I don't get it either. Long Range premium buyers have to make due with LG packs not getting the tax cuts while RWD buyers secretly get this huge upgrade"
X Link 2024-04-28T10:42Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@brandenflasch Ok. That is high for a RWD car. The LFP cars only do 230kW (CATL) and 215kW (BYD). The 3D1 motor in that car can do 269kW. Worth testing at 100% on a DC charger. I can imagine it is able to saturate this motor if the battery is full and hot enough"
X Link 2024-04-28T14:26Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@brandenflasch @philroberts Both CATL packs were restricted with SW updates during their lifetime. LFP55 went down from 55.9kWh to 54.1kWh. The successor LFP60 went from 62kWh to 61kWh (M3) and 60kWh (MY). The last lock was to match the capacity to the smaller BYD pack"
X Link 2024-04-28T14:28Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@brandenflasch @spleck It is easy to calculate if you charge the car to any SOC above 30%. Note voltage without load. Then you accelerate full throttle through 45mph and note peak current and lowest voltage. Knowing no load at 85% it is just math"
X Link 2024-04-28T14:34Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"Small overview (work in progress)"
X Link 2024-05-01T12:37Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@alojoh @Tesla @Porsche This comparison was written by someone who has no understanding of the respective performance in relation to real life factors or purposely left out key data to make the Tesla look better. This isn't apples to apples on so many levels. Both are desirable for different reasons"
X Link 2024-05-02T09:43Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@Silv3rFish41 @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche You are describing how you perceived the description of test drivers who have perceived performance of a test car of which they don't daily the predecessor. Cars that were at high SOC in warm climate being driven on curvy roads within the realms of the speed limits. Data"
X Link 2024-05-02T10:57Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@Silv3rFish41 @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche I know the drivers. I know the videos. I know what they said. What I am saying is that these are the ideal conditions for any M3P and all these exaggerations about the new car are based on perception not measured data yet. People should stop pretending it's anything else"
X Link 2024-05-02T11:54Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche What I mean is that - the M3P can only deliver this performance with a full/hot pack were the Taycan (variable current) has more power once the Tesla drops SOC/temp. - the M3P has peak power once at around 100kph and then drops were the Taycan shifts to second and goes again"
X Link 2024-05-02T12:05Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche Also the Porsche has many options people are happy to pay for that just isn't available for the Tesla. The Porsche has significantly faster charging. Design. The whole car is just aimed at different People really. The M3P has a greater price point. No doubt about that"
X Link 2024-05-02T12:09Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@Silv3rFish41 @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche This is again ideal territory for any M3P. Tight track high SOC DC charged. Put those cars on a track with long straights were the second gear can be used have both cars at 50% and 15C ambient no DC charge.different story"
X Link 2024-05-02T12:14Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@Silv3rFish41 @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche Be excited about the new car. This is now about to be repetitive I am out"
X Link 2024-05-02T12:18Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@Hoggigold @Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche - The Porsche ITY network has great coverage and is right next to highway fueling stations no detour off the highway as for the Supercharger. - The Porsche supports Plug+Charge. - 10%-80% in ideal conditions is +10 minutes faster + more energy charged. - Less efficient though"
X Link 2024-05-02T12:34Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche Yes. Especially with cars things get emotional and we do our best to justify our buying decisions. I am driving and enjoying my M3P every day. Wouldn't want the Taycan or M-Car (had those)but I will not defend its capabilities at all costs just for the sake of it"
X Link 2024-05-02T12:38Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@Hoggigold @Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche Here in Europe the Ionity Network is well developed. You can charge at 800V full speed right on the Highway. Less stalls per location than Tesla but there are more Networks for Porsche that also support 800V Autocharge. Price/Performance - Tesla https://ionity.eu/en/network-status https://ionity.eu/en/network-status"
X Link 2024-05-02T12:48Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@TeslaPatriot @Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche 100-200kph at 90% / 50% / 10% as a starter. Doing this on a hot summers day vs. a chilly autumn day. In contrast to combustion cars BEV's are slower in winter and faster in summer. Tesla's fixed current BMS philosophy does the rest"
X Link 2024-05-02T13:17Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@Flyingfishtrump @Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche You will see that I have repeatedly stated that Tesla is much better in regards to #bangforthebuck I am merely pointing out that those data points have been chosen "wisely" to make the Taycan look worse in all aspects which it isn't. Not even in all the ones it is compared here"
X Link 2024-05-02T14:09Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@TeslaDude12 @TeslaPatriot @Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche Absolutely not. This statement can only be from someone who does not understand the correlation between the battery BMS and Tesla drive units"
X Link 2024-05-02T14:47Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@TeslaPatriot @Datura_species @alojoh @Tesla @Porsche The old Taycan 4S was [----] seconds in the 1/4 mile just as the old M3P. I am lacking acceleration test data for the [----] versions of each car but both are supposed to be faster. The comparison gets more interesting at lower SOC which is were the Taycan likely has an advantage"
X Link 2024-05-02T18:39Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@electricfelix @AirElectricApp @RoamingNorway Tessie is historically wrong at new values with pretty much all packs. It doesn't even know which wheels are selected which is often relevant for this calculation"
X Link 2024-05-05T22:29Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@antonio2134a @electricfelix @AirElectricApp @RoamingNorway He mentions additional range of 40-60 EPA miles The locked capacity in the MY RWD is as follows: - BYD 7C LFP60 [---] kWh - CATL 6L LFP62 [---] kWh - Panasonic 3L NCA82 11kWh Do the maths which pack he means that can unlock that kind of extra range. 😉"
X Link 2024-05-06T05:44Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@AirElectricApp @RoamingNorway @itskyleconner @Out_of_Spec What do you expect The readings from the MY RWD with locked Panasonic pack at 100% and 0% are known and we know how this pack performs in its unlocked state since Q4/2020"
X Link 2024-05-06T06:49Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@DKasztelaniec @Junni @Tesla @catl_official If you monitor the BMS current/voltage behavior in the old car (same LG battery pack) you will not find any headroom for optional/extra power. The battery pack that Tesla is currently using was certified in June [----] I am sure the next gen pack will be released this year"
X Link 2024-05-06T09:47Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@Junni @DKasztelaniec @Tesla @catl_official There is no data yet so this is me guessing: There will be a BYD 7L LFP Pack with maybe 70kWh for the SR variants and a LR/P pack like CATL Qilin at 90kWh. Tesla needs to step up their game to at least this if they want to be taken seriously in 2024"
X Link 2024-05-06T12:21Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"1500 rows Thank you all for participating in this worldwide survey 🔋🥳🌍 Feel free to enter your own data here: .and have a look at the results here: Feel free to share your ideas for evaluations in the #Dashboard view🙂 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LmyllKqJWBr8J_LKVIAimsOigT4-hpfi5NeFJR8qZhQ/editusp=sharing https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScTmpkCvDiYezgy7aacK_s5UMXICnDCWX0P6qgC6R-yGywPzQ/viewform https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LmyllKqJWBr8J_LKVIAimsOigT4-hpfi5NeFJR8qZhQ/editusp=sharing"
X Link 2024-05-07T12:28Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@EFIEBER_ANDRE @greentheonly hatte eine kurze Beschreibung gezeigt was in Toolbox eingestellt werden msste um die Scheinwerfer in Pre-Refresh Fahrzeugen zu aktivieren. Dieser Vorgang war allerdings nur theoretisch ohne Besttigung"
X Link 2024-05-11T13:57Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"#Tesla #Model3 #Performance [----] certified in China. Thanks @AresiusKing for the info No surprises in the data but.although you shouldn't add motor powers.the claimed 402kW / 547hp at the wheels is a plausible number for the LG battery pack. 👍"
X Link 2024-05-11T14:02Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"Thread #Tesla #Unicorn Buyers Guide This will be a continuous thread about recommended build configurations over the years that are worth looking at on the used market or maybe worth keeping if you have one 😉 This is obviously open to discussion but bear with me 👍"
X Link 2024-05-13T09:36Z [----] followers, 11.4K engagements
"#Model3 #LongRange #Performance [----] - 2020(Q3) Panasonic 78kWh NCA ✅Fastest charging Model [--] overall ✅Best degradation projection so far ✅Acceleration better than later LG models ✅Efficient motor combination ❌Get more efficient tires ❌Install more sound insulation"
X Link 2024-05-13T09:52Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"#ModelY #LongRange 2022-Q3 (+early Q4) (Made in GF4 Grnheide) ✅LG 79kWh NMC Pack ✅MCU-Z Ryzen ✅Softer suspension from supplier ✅640kg load capacity Only in [----] ✅Efficient 3D7 rear motor ✅Last generation with ultrasonic sensors ❌Only Black/White"
X Link 2024-05-13T11:03Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"#Model3 #LongRange 2021-Q2 Variant = E3LD ✅Only #LongRange with Panasonic 82kWh NCA ✅True WLTP 640km / Declared 614km ✅New front door panels. ✅#BjrnNyland 1000km challenge 9:20 🏆 ✅Probably the best allround #LongRange of any model year"
X Link 2024-05-13T15:01Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"#Model3 #Performance 2022-Q1 WLTP 559km. ✅Last generation Panasonic 82kWh NCA pack ✅Strongest battery pack of all Performance models ✅Second best charging curve of all LR/P models ✅First generation MCU3 Ryzen ✅Efficient+Strong 3D6 hairpin motor ✅Only in Q1/2022"
X Link 2024-05-14T12:21Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"This looks like one of the first sightings of #Tesla #ModelY #Juniper parts in Thanks to the unnamed source for keeping me in the loop 🙂"
X Link 2024-05-14T15:29Z [----] followers, 85.1K engagements
"@mikeortner @async_func @electric_benni @nullkommazero Dass der LG einen Vorteil bei niedrigen Temperaturen hat ist ein wirklich hartnckiger Mythos aber rein von den Daten her liegt der Vorteil nur bei niedrigem SOC. Der LG verliert leider genau so an Leistung bei niedriger Temperatur wie der Panasonic"
X Link 2024-05-17T07:13Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"🔋#Tesla Battery Degradation - Next level dive🪫 Using #Matplotlib I have added two more axis to the evaluations that you already know. I will continue with other packs and values but LFP was interesting as a start 🙂 Any ideas what to combine next https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LmyllKqJWBr8J_LKVIAimsOigT4-hpfi5NeFJR8qZhQ/editusp=sharing https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LmyllKqJWBr8J_LKVIAimsOigT4-hpfi5NeFJR8qZhQ/editusp=sharing"
X Link 2024-05-20T09:20Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"As per all the requests: - Added trend line (linear / non-logarithmic) - Limited both batteries to 29.000km - Limited both to [--] months (BYD max age) - Added DC Ratio again"
X Link 2024-05-21T07:39Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"For the full clip you need to click on the GIF link in the tweet"
X Link 2024-05-22T06:15Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"Important Correction This clip was taken in #GF4 Berlin (Grnheide) Since the source was Chinese I assumed it would be from Shanghai. My bad"
X Link 2024-05-22T06:29Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"#Tesla #Model3/#ModelY DU Hardware differences: - Drive Unit CAT 2/3 has the lightest rotor - Drive Unit CAT [--] (4D1/4D2) has the heaviest rotor"
X Link 2024-05-23T08:51Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@EFIEBER_ANDRE Richtige Aussagen mchte ich eigentlich erst mit CANBUS/Dragy Daten raushauen. Mitte Juni wurde mir ein Testfahrzeug "geteasert". Mein aktuelles 2022er M3P mit Panasonic macht 9.2s 100-200 (berturbine) und meine bisherige These war ja dass genau da die Verbesserung sein wird"
X Link 2024-05-23T09:10Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@LimitingThe So the energy density is no better than the current LG NMC pack that they started using back in [----] or the current Panasonic NCA pack that came in [----] Oh boy"
X Link 2024-05-23T15:13Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@Godzillin88 @LimitingThe The problem is that other manufacturers have started to improve all those numbers at the same time"
X Link 2024-05-23T15:36Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@Twizz7871 @Godzillin88 @LimitingThe The Panasonic Pack was certified in August [----] and released in October [----]. More like almost four years now. I want Tesla to lead the pack but a current Tesla Model [--] charges slower than a similar BMW i4 and far slower than a [----] Model [--] and I am not even starting with CATL"
X Link 2024-05-23T15:59Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@JJ_Zarathustra @LimitingThe Don't you mean they were leading four years ago and are now on par with themselves four years ago Batteries are charging slower than six years ago and the capacity didn't increase more than 1-2kWh in that time"
X Link 2024-05-23T18:03Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"Important addition thanks to your feedback Stator Technology"
X Link 2024-05-24T08:25Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@JJ_Zarathustra @LimitingThe Yes. late [----] V2 4680's are on par with were Panasonic was in [----] and LG in [----]. That is the comparison. Now I would prefer Tesla to be were CATL is right now in the close future and this is were I am not too sure at the moment"
X Link 2024-05-24T12:13Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@Silv3rFish41 @BLKMDL3 You mean battery current right Voltage sag/drop in the Panasonic especially in this case right after supercharging is minimal at only 55V"
X Link 2024-05-25T07:52Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@icostinas @JoshuaThePilot Yes. Indeed. [---] years old and the less favourable made in China batch but the powerful Panasonic nonetheless"
X Link 2024-05-25T10:15Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@Storch_i Mge die Umfrage noch so relevant sein. #Bild bekommt von mir keinen Klick 👎"
X Link 2024-05-25T18:11Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@Seb_Gode @gebrauchtetesla @ValentinMoeller @dieserNiko @nullkommazero Beide Packs zeigen bei 100% genau 596kWh. Im Hintergrund beginnen beide aber unterschiedlich. Der CATL hat Initial knapp 62kWh und der BYD 60kWh. Beim CATL reduziert sich die angezeigte Reichweite also deutlich spter da erst knapp 2kWh der Degradation zum Opfer fallen mssen"
X Link 2024-05-25T20:55Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@nullkommazero @Seb_Gode @gebrauchtetesla @ValentinMoeller @dieserNiko Da die zyklische Alterung bei LFP eine untergeordnete Rolle spielt sollte man primr das Alter betrachten. Aktuell kommen die Tesla LFP nach drei Jahren bei ca. 10% (und 150k km) an. Wer danach einen linearen Fortschritt annimmt hat es eh nicht verstanden. 😉👍"
X Link 2024-05-25T21:48Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@ValentinMoeller @gebrauchtetesla @Seb_Gode @dieserNiko @nullkommazero Wenn der Wagen jetzt bei 100% nur noch 406km anzeigt dann sind bereits 2.1kWj weg ja. Evtl kommen durch Kalibrierung noch Mal 1-2km zurck aber mehr sicherlich nicht"
X Link 2024-05-26T06:08Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@ValentinMoeller Initial ist es das auch. Beim CATL lsst sich mittlerweile eine Abflachung der Kurve beobachten. Das dauert beim BYD einfach noch ein wenig"
X Link 2024-05-26T09:21Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@MimMusMet This is the final step: Soft power limitation of the existing hardware ✅ 160kW for MY RWD / 4D3 in ✅ 110kW for M3 RWD / 3D7 in https://x.com/greentheonly/status/1794862320788906199t=Uqqlh8GdaKHIdikmHdnnFw&s=19 Hm interesting recent firmwares bring "soft performance limit" option to Model3 and ModelY listed as 110kW and 160kW respectively https://x.com/greentheonly/status/1794862320788906199t=Uqqlh8GdaKHIdikmHdnnFw&s=19 Hm interesting recent firmwares bring "soft performance limit" option to Model3 and ModelY listed as 110kW and 160kW respectively"
X Link 2024-05-27T06:53Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"http://x.com/i/article/1795060982299209728 http://x.com/i/article/1795060982299209728"
X Link 2024-05-28T08:15Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@JoshuaThePilot @elonmusk @Tesla Check your PM's. It's not too complicated"
X Link 2024-05-28T15:38Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@geitenijs @bigdaddaddyboy @DominicBRNKMN Here is a. Power vs Speed vs SOC vs Cell Temp . chart of the US Panasonic in the old 2021-2023 M3P:"
X Link 2024-05-31T15:17Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@daltybrewer So the new M3P is faster than 182mph Really Why do these stupid comparisons keep coming up There are great arguments to be made for the new M3P but comparing it to a Porsche [---] especially with wrong claims is not one of them"
X Link 2024-06-02T14:07Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@daltybrewer .and this is criticism from someone who's daily is a M3P and who just drove the last gen Porsche [---] 4S and who was fairly disappointed by it. Still gonna criticise these comparisons. It is pure clickbait and by dropping some facts in the mix I probably fell for it too"
X Link 2024-06-02T14:41Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@Ludoh @SebRedBu11 @b4ud3r I've just received feedback that Tesla sales can still see the VIN's so matching cars by motor and battery pack is still possible in the case of the MY RWD"
X Link 2024-06-04T15:50Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@trymejohnny @tesla_fix @tagesanzeiger @watson_news @20min @Blickch @elonmusk @Tesla "This is fake news I have the facts" .while not providing any sort of misses the point of a truth or middleground finding argument doesn't it"
X Link 2024-06-06T12:10Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"Latest update of the #M3P2024 comparison: EPA Data added confirming the rear bias Front motor went down by 25% Rear motor went up by 48%"
X Link 2024-06-07T08:33Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"Generally low.I guess CON: As soon as there is surplus of Nevada Panasonic 2170L cells they will use them in the domestic Long Range instead of shipping M3P to us as these will then also qualify for the 7500$ tax credit. PRO: If the EU introduces higher import tax on Chinese EV's it might be worthwile for #Tesla to start shipping US made cars to Europe again. Not too likely but not off the table I guess"
X Link 2024-06-07T09:33Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"Falls ihr ein relativ neues 2024er MY RWD habt dann hat das den Panasonic 82kWh Long Range Akku verbaut und ist nur per Software auf 67kWh beschrnkt. Tesla will Kufer dieses Fahrzeugs in Krze einen Unlock auf die volle Kapazitt via in App Kauf anbieten. 2000-3000 Dollar wird vermutet um einen vollwertigen LR RWD zu erhalten"
X Link 2024-06-07T15:48Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@Arpe_DK Just the problem that these times start to rise when you are below 95% SOC and are only possible if the pack is warm/hot. The cars in the list will do this even better in winter and with an empty tank. The opposite to the M3P. Thats why comparisons to ICE cars are so difficult"
X Link 2024-06-09T15:54Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"Tesla found the mistakes in the TC and corrected the Torque value and operating voltage for the #M3P2024: ➖4D2A Torque 448Nm 490Nm ➖4D2A Voltage 320V 335V"
X Link 2024-06-10T13:36Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@Tesla marketing claims for the #M3P2024: +22% continuous power +32% peak power +16% peak torque Checking the data of the old and new car it seems that these claims are only valid for the Panasonic version. For the LG version the claims should be as follow: +22% continuous power +21% peak power +09% peak torque https://x.com/Tesla/status/1782804631359193275 https://x.com/Tesla/status/1782804631359193275"
X Link 2024-06-10T14:03Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"Anyone else experiencing less effective AC (HVAC) in their #Tesla since #Update 2024.20.1 I need to set the temperature at least 2C lower than usual and still feel too warm in the car This is new to me and there are similar reports at #TFFforum from other users"
X Link 2024-06-12T15:07Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@TeslaStars Keep us posted. Especially people from the warmer areas. It was sunny 23C here in Germany today so not too bad but still the cooling performance was weaker than usual"
X Link 2024-06-12T19:03Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"The battery tech we currently see in the Tesla range (except Cybertruck) is 3-4 years old. So it doesn't take much for the Qilin packs to impress in comparison. Generally do like the cooling efficiency of those packs and the resulting capabilities in charge / discharge power but I currently doubt that a pack with this technology will be available in Tesla vehicles. It is much more likely a next generation LG cell as it is much cheaper to keep the basic design and replace the aged M50F cells with something more modern. This happened twice in the past with both Panasonic and LG. Only the CATL"
X Link 2024-08-02T14:42Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"Actually the new one doesnt allow for higher discharge values but for a longer duration of the established ones. The new rear motor can pull peak power for longer as it has a higher motor power limit and is still a fair bit away of its actual peak. All LG Performance are limited to 1350A. The difference is only for how long those 1350A can be drawn. The old cars pull is for maybe 0.5s and the new car maybe for 2-3s"
X Link 2024-08-09T18:02Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@Lala98808012 @geitenijs @SawyerMerritt It depends a lot on the country's incentives too. If you can get the price below a certain threshold you suddenly get the state to dig in with thousands on the purchase price or running costs"
X Link 2024-08-16T09:55Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"I might be able to test the US spec car in the next two weeks but I am lacking a strip to do the 100-200kph runs in the US and prefer not to go to jail for this 😶 The US car did not only come with a stronger Panasonic from the start but it looks like theyve also increased the max current to the BMS limit which gives the car another 25kW over the old car with the same pack. The US Dragy times speak for themselves really. It will be interesting if they are milking the new car at low SOC as well as I can only re-emphasize how stressful this is for the cells"
X Link 2024-08-22T16:55Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@psbroke No hints whatsover from all my sources but it has to happen. The LG is three years old and the Panasonic is four years old. This is stoneage technology in these fast pacing EV times"
X Link 2024-08-22T16:56Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"This new certified 7-Seater was not Juniper that is why the dimensions didn't change. This could have been just an intermediate certification to have 7-Seats already certified for Juniper release. That part is unknown. All Model [--] and Model Y excluding BYD structural battery pack are certified under the same type certificate"
X Link 2024-08-25T07:23Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"#ModelY #DriveUnit vs #Wheel vs #Battery efficiency comparison: - Actual unreleased WLTP results - X axis starts at 100Wh/km"
X Link 2024-08-26T06:10Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"Additional info: - These consumption figures include (re-)charging losses. Actual road consumption was up to 13% lower. - The Chinese version of the 20" Michelin Pilot Sport EV has a less efficient rubber mixture. This tire is always used for testing as the worst case scenario"
X Link 2024-08-26T08:39Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@janusPrime My guess is as good as yours but maybe the BYD has a more efficient AC to DC converter or the 3D6 performance inverter is of a higher grade to archive 840A and a side product is less heat loss. Though usually E-motors are more efficient when operating close to their upper limit"
X Link 2024-08-26T13:49Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@OLBJAN @janusPrime Well. - MY RWD w. BYD structural battery pack = 1992kg - MY RWD w. CATl standard battery pack = 1984kg Both including a 75kg driver"
X Link 2024-08-26T14:02Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"This is me spitballing reading between the lines and a bit of extra information. Facts: - Only a #ModelY #LongRange was certified with seven seats. - Only the LG 5L 79kWh pack was certified with seven seats. - Only the China made 3D3/3D7 Dual Motor combination was certified. Between the lines: - They could have certified the Model Y standard battery pack platform for 7-seats but just the long range motor battery combo. - They could have certified German made 3D3/4D1 or 3D3/4D3 motor combos that are produced there right now but they didn't. Theories in order of likelihood (highest first): -"
X Link 2024-08-27T15:36Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@NCBirbhan @brandenflasch BT47 is a new option code. Panasonic 3L 82kWh NCA used to be BT42 and to my best knowledge this is still that same four year old battery pack. The BMS data and charge curve suggest the same"
X Link 2024-09-06T07:32Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"There was a M3LR RWD in late [----]. That is probably the Tesla with the best recharged km value of them all but they are rare in Europe. What o meant was the also rare Q2/2021 M3LR that was delivered with the 82kWh Panasonic NCA pack of the M3P [----]. Identifiable via the variant E3LD in the reg papers or via the claimed WLTP of 614km/640km but not to be confused with the 614km cars of Q4/2021. Those had the slower charging LG packs that are used in Europe until today"
X Link 2024-09-07T16:39Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"Great participation in the #Tesla #Degradation #Survey at 👌 Just one advice for those who have received a #ModelY out of #GigaBerlin from around the second half of [----]. In these cars the rated range calculation has been changed. For accurate results please select model year [----] with 393km at the end. Y6LR = CATL LFP Y7CR = BYD LFP https://teslatech.streamlit.app/ https://teslatech.streamlit.app/ https://teslatech.streamlit.app/ https://teslatech.streamlit.app/"
X Link 2024-09-12T08:38Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@keksznet Yes with Refresh [----] the charging power and in some cases also the net usable capacity went backwards. Comparing the old [----] Panasonic with the 2020/2021 LG packs this was a big setback of which they never recovered with a better pack until today"
X Link 2024-10-05T05:07Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"According to the #Model3 section on the @Tesla website the launch is imminent 😉"
X Link 2024-10-06T06:02Z [----] followers, 16K engagements
"@GHtSP @LastBoyScout87 @Smudlik2 @Tim_at_worck You can filter all the batteries and views yourself at the #TeslaTech project: Here is the filter set to the LFP packs: (CATL 6C / CATL 6L / BYD 7C) https://teslatech.streamlit.app/ https://teslatech.streamlit.app/"
X Link 2024-10-06T16:30Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
".and here it is 👌👍"
X Link 2024-10-08T07:42Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"No premium interior for the LR RWD sadly @Arpe_DK reached out to a #Tesla sales contact and got the confirmation. https://x.com/PhilipPowerss/status/1843605465265025064t=wxHha_Gs70Ptkbh6EmAy5g&s=19 @Arpe_DK @Tesla Correct https://x.com/PhilipPowerss/status/1843605465265025064t=wxHha_Gs70Ptkbh6EmAy5g&s=19 @Arpe_DK @Tesla Correct"
X Link 2024-10-08T11:33Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"Will the M3LR RWD [----] get the 3D6 Performance DU 🔘M3 SR RWD [----] / 1836kg / 6.1s➡3D7 = 230kW 🔘M3 LR RWD [----] / 1810kg / 5.9s➡3D7 = 240kW 🔘M3 LR RWD [----] / 1801kg / 5.3s➡3D1 = 269kW 🔘M3 LR RWD [----] / 1822kg / 5.3s➡3D = Kw Just by comparing power to weight of previous RWD models. ✳The [----] needs the 3D6 Performance motor to achieve the claimed acceleration time✳"
X Link 2024-10-08T19:41Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@Arpe_DK The paperwork will state 208kW if it comes with the 3D7 base (unlikely as shown) or 3D6 = 235kW (more likely). I think this will be tough luck in regards to insurance pricing in DK. These are certified power levels. My comparison is based on actual BMS battery power"
X Link 2024-10-08T20:10Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@greggertruck This is messing with my thesis Completely unacceptable 😂 https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1844093743487725680 🛞🛞Where size does matter 🛞🛞 The #Model3 #LongRange RWD is the first ever #Tesla to be WLTP tested on 18" wheels. This decision was key to receive the 700+km rating. You see four different drive unit generations in this line-up but the key consumption difference is wheel https://t.co/encPghMfJ2 https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1844093743487725680 🛞🛞Where size does matter 🛞🛞 The #Model3 #LongRange RWD is the first ever #Tesla to be WLTP tested on 18" wheels."
X Link 2024-10-11T08:20Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"Sadly this version is only produced and sold in Europe and even here that very rear motor was discontinued some time last year Maybe worth a look on the used market 🫰👌 (I meant the third and fourth row in the chart) https://x.com/eivissacopter/status/1844658903977508905 @Smudlik2 Actually I think the crazier numbers are the ones you don't spot instantly. For example the third result in that table The MY RWD. - without "Highland / Juniper efficiency magic" - with those cheap [----] Hankook tires - with 2cm wider tires - with that higher SUV front surface"
X Link 2024-10-11T09:41Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"On another note. I appreciate your private messages about the Tesla Robotaxi event yesterday but there really is nothing for me to talk about as this has been an AI/FSD event. The car better be below 30k$ because it is a small 2-seater car without much stuff on and in it🤔"
X Link 2024-10-11T09:46Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"If someone is looking for that most efficient Model Y (BYD/3D6) on the CPO / used market.This VIN combination is a 100% hit rate:"
X Link 2024-10-13T08:24Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@rmblue2 Theoretical power limit of the drive unit after [--] minutes of running with unlimited power. No connection to the actual battery pack or real world driving limitations. It's in your registration papers but the only relevant usage I found was insurance classification"
X Link 2024-10-15T11:33Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@mariosteiner0 Well now we have the answer. Three settings which likely resemble two power levels and the standard being maximum current"
X Link 2024-10-28T14:56Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"3D6/3D7 are the second generation of the Model [--] drive unit and first generation with hairpin stators. Until today this is the latest DU you get on the Model [--] except Highland perfort which gets generation [---]. M3 LR RWD is 3D6D with 90kW / 235kW officially. When you connect ScanMyTesla an log Canbus power you should see 259-269kW of motor power as this car is limited by the motor (840A Inverter) most of the time not the battery which is rare in the Tesla universe"
X Link 2024-10-29T20:57Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"There was a (Europe wide) survey when it became apparent that more and more of these Panasonic - Made in China packs were failing. It became quite apparent that mostly the Chinese versions were failing and also that the packs that hadn't failed were showing a higher degradation than their US made equivalents. I have now imported the old dataset and adjusted the Teslatech app so you can show/hide cars with replaced battery packs as well. These will show up as icon in the graph. https://teslatech.streamlit.app/"
X Link 2024-10-30T08:51Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@LimitingThe This time I can't but I will release some more infos about the first car with that pack (likely tomorrow). The numbers are Tesla's own numbers. Sometimes they don't update every line and old data is leftover in new motors and packs but these updated lines look plausible"
X Link 2024-10-31T13:37Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
"@liam_rzx Neither the CATL nor the possible next LG pack will qualify for the tax credit I believe. That's why I doubt we will see their launch in the US"
X Link 2024-10-31T15:42Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@robertvg @eugen707 Maybe both but don't expect those Chinese superfigures as this base LFP pack can't overshine the Long Range packs made by Panasonic and LG. This was already a weird situation with the BYD Blade pack when compared the current Long Range LG recharge rate"
X Link 2024-11-01T07:23Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"They are facing competition on the Model [--] side as well. For years. Ionic [--] BMW i4 VW ID3 BYD Seal. Model [--] and Y always used the same battery packs as they are basically the same car. Only the structural packs (BYDblade/Tesla4680) could never be used in the Model [--] and those were base to mid range packs. I don't see a reason for Tesla to leave energy on the Table in the case of the Model [--]. I also doubt any Long Range pack with a capacity that gets close to the 99.#kWh of the ModelS/X. Tesla has shown in the past that they are even willing to reduce pack sizes (significantly) if they can"
X Link 2024-11-01T08:35Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@TSLA2035RETIRE Not yet. Maybe in the coming days"
X Link 2024-11-01T19:40Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@MDV The Netherlands with 80/100kph most of the time is the ideal place to archive the official WLTP numbers 😉👍"
X Link 2024-11-02T14:47Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"When the 4th gen DU was launched it was supposed to be the usual base motor 4D5 and performance motor 4D1 line up. Just prior launch Tesla decided to simplify it and only use the 4D1. So all cars got the DU with the performance inverter. About one year later the 4D3 was released as a replacement of the 4D1 with the key difference being a lighter and more efficient rotor. They maintained the simple strategy of one drive unit with a performance Inverter (840A). The new "real" performance motor is the 4D1 with an even stronger 950A inverter which is called the 4D2. Expect Juniper to be delivered"
X Link 2024-11-02T19:01Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@gaminfr59 @pearl_tesla Looks like a worthy revival That thing with two Tesla 3D1/980 motors front and rear and coupled with a Panasonic 80-90kWh 400+V NCA pack. 🚀🚀🚀 I miss my old E30 pretty badly ❤"
X Link 2024-11-05T10:21Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@GuusMeij Let me see if I can dig up anything interesting from the limited data that is there now about VC42. The thorough analysis will only follow in the coming days"
X Link 2024-11-06T11:14Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@GuusMeij For now I can only confirm that the new #Model3 RWD with the #CATL6M and 520km WLTP will be introduced in this release. More VC42 changes in the coming days"
X Link 2024-11-06T12:34Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@fritz_rauer @nullkommazero Die achte Generation des Porsche [---]. Also der aktuelle Porsche 911"
X Link 2024-11-07T16:09Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@tom_meise That's not something I would recommend Although in China this seems to become a regular thing. The HV parts don't seem to short even if the car is already swimming so the connector's are well insulated. The Cybertruck is the only car where is allowed under certain conditions"
X Link 2024-11-07T16:56Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@gebrauchtetesla Tesla starts selling [----] models in Q4 usually meaning they are selling the [----] model already. Juniper won't be identifiable via Model year [----] on the invoice or the VIN number. I believe the last time we saw a Model Y with matching release year and model year was in Q1/2022"
X Link 2024-11-08T10:04Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@nyctophobia23 True words. You have to be able to look past the fact how awful the person on top has become or turned out to be. You need to be able to see Tesla as an isolated entity that produces very good EV's . Maybe also ignore the mostly terrible Tesla Service if you need it. 😕"
X Link 2024-11-08T11:39Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@cybrtrkguy That old pack was a Panasonic NCA not LG NMC. Discharge power wise this switch is actually a downgrade and the car will be heavier afterwards but the charge curve and capacity will make up for it"
X Link 2024-11-09T13:23Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@TheReal_MisterX @BMW @Tesla @Out_of_Spec @itskyleconner @brandenflasch @StateOfChargeEV That Panasonic 2170L out of Nevada has 82kWh net usable. Not 79kWh. Sadly most of them don't get that high even when new"
X Link 2024-11-20T15:52Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"@onlyforadawong Currently it is only certain that the RWD will get a slightly bigger pack with 62.5kWh. I am expecting an update for the LG pack that currently has 79.5kWh net usable but there is no hard data in the updated pack yet. I am expecting more data around Christmas time"
X Link 2024-12-10T12:31Z [----] followers, [--] engagements
"@electricfelix @brandenflasch - Charge curve: LG does 250kW for mere seconds below 10%. The Panasonic has a 250kW plateau from 1% to at least 14%. - Battery sticker: Panasonic is 123442#-##-# while LG is 17000##-##-#. - CANBUS Full Pack When New: Panasonic is 82.1kWh / LG is 78.8kWh"
X Link 2024-12-13T22:19Z [----] followers, [---] engagements
"The new LFP battery pack by CATL was already certified in the last round. This one seem to be only a minor update. My expected timeline is the certification update of the new long range battery pack around Christmas time and release of the Model [--] with the new packs and Model Y Juniper around the 15th of January"
X Link 2024-12-14T10:37Z [----] followers, [----] engagements
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