# ![@dathon_ohm Avatar](https://lunarcrush.com/gi/w:26/cr:twitter::1987353263008849922.png) @dathon_ohm Dathon Ohm

Dathon Ohm posts on X about bitcoin, money, spam, core the most. They currently have [-----] followers and [---] posts still getting attention that total [------] engagements in the last [--] hours.

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### Social Influence

**Social category influence**
[cryptocurrencies](/list/cryptocurrencies)  #3464 [finance](/list/finance) 

**Social topic influence**
[bitcoin](/topic/bitcoin) #1472, [money](/topic/money), [spam](/topic/spam) #1153, [core](/topic/core), [if you](/topic/if-you), [fud](/topic/fud), [the new](/topic/the-new), [has been](/topic/has-been), [the official](/topic/the-official), [status](/topic/status)

**Top accounts mentioned or mentioned by**
[@giacomozucco](/creator/undefined) [@bitcoinbombadil](/creator/undefined) [@stephanlivera](/creator/undefined) [@catotheelder17](/creator/undefined) [@lukedashjr](/creator/undefined) [@zndtoshi](/creator/undefined) [@murchandamus](/creator/undefined) [@davidsfreeman](/creator/undefined) [@grassfedbitcoin](/creator/undefined) [@mononautical](/creator/undefined) [@bitcoinscoresby](/creator/undefined) [@lukedewolf](/creator/undefined) [@btctooblivion](/creator/undefined) [@majorianbtc](/creator/undefined) [@juergenstrobel](/creator/undefined) [@sashahodler](/creator/undefined) [@supertestnet](/creator/undefined) [@bitbello](/creator/undefined) [@kloaec](/creator/undefined) [@nunchukio](/creator/undefined)

**Top assets mentioned**
[Bitcoin (BTC)](/topic/bitcoin) [Ethereum (ETH)](/topic/ethereum)
### Top Social Posts
Top posts by engagements in the last [--] hours

"I am @dathonohm on Github sig:iIoEABYIADIWIQQrl/Ayk3RNcPa7qC8uOmb/Z/mLTwUCaRATXhQcZGF0aG9ub2htQHByb3Rvbi5tZQAKCRAuOmb/Z/mLT/9LAP9f1jz2abJLtt0gEQrHoOkBcHzLV1SunSV7m4Xbo8/WGAD/Um+44HNOxwPHzBRuNlV7994kZp0QFsptgvsXBxYJ6AI="  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1987372226144878822)  2025-11-09T04:10Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@dathonohm Hopefully the above message will stop X from suspending my account again due to "inauthenticity". It is a binary signature represented as base64 using my Github PGP key"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1987372501228269652)  2025-11-09T04:11Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"A new draft of the BIP for the Reduced Data Temporary Softfork is available now. All of the "legal" language has been removed as well as the reactive deployment method. All feedback welcome: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/2017 https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/2017"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1987383722744627375)  2025-11-09T04:56Z [----] followers, [----] engagements


"@giacomozucco @nondualHodl @cguida6 @stephanlivera @LukeDashjr What is the solution for your point #1 "It doesn't have consensus" is true of every upgrade until it isn't. You seem to be arguing for ossification"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1987502746401169731)  2025-11-09T12:49Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@giacomozucco @nondualHodl @cguida6 @stephanlivera @LukeDashjr So. let's never upgrade Bitcoin again"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1987506485018902712)  2025-11-09T13:04Z [----] followers, [----] engagements


"@giacomozucco @nondualHodl @cguida6 @stephanlivera @LukeDashjr Upgrading Bitcoin is not at all like upgrading the Internet. If upgrading the internet required consensus it would still be stuck in 1984"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1987510232075927722)  2025-11-09T13:19Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@bitcoin_eagle @giacomozucco @nondualHodl @cguida6 @stephanlivera @LukeDashjr FUD"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1987515210349822016)  2025-11-09T13:38Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@giacomozucco @bitcoin_eagle @nondualHodl @cguida6 @stephanlivera @LukeDashjr Disabling popular types of data spam is also an upgrade then"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1987536239377981470)  2025-11-09T15:02Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"Should Bitcoin permanently ossify with the current consensus rules @giacomozucco @nondualHodl @cguida6 @stephanlivera @LukeDashjr So. let's never upgrade Bitcoin again @giacomozucco @nondualHodl @cguida6 @stephanlivera @LukeDashjr So. let's never upgrade Bitcoin again"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1987537666456297686)  2025-11-09T15:08Z [----] followers, [----] engagements


"@boomer_btc @_DavidSFreeman @giacomozucco Giacomo supports ossification is that your stance as well"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1987538740042997968)  2025-11-09T15:12Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"Just so you're aware the official number for the Reduced Data Temporary Softfork has not been assigned yet so "BIP-444" is actually not the correct way to refer to it. For the moment it's just "UASF-ReducedData" or RDTS. I'm optimistic that a number will be assigned soon"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1987540087236645152)  2025-11-09T15:17Z [----] followers, 11.6K engagements


"@giacomozucco @bitcoin_eagle @nondualHodl @cguida6 @stephanlivera @LukeDashjr Will you support the RDTS then"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1987544756914642963)  2025-11-09T15:36Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@giacomozucco @bitcoin_eagle @nondualHodl @cguida6 @stephanlivera @LukeDashjr The Reduced Data Temporary Softfork. People have been referring to it as BIP-444 but that is not correct as the number has not yet been assigned"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1987549217146200249)  2025-11-09T15:53Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@LukeDashjr @giacomozucco @bitcoin_eagle @nondualHodl @cguida6 @stephanlivera My understanding is that a BIP editor needs to comment on the BIP PR itself in order for the number to be considered officially assigned"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1987552861140771268)  2025-11-09T16:08Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@BitcoinBombadil Do you support the RDTS to reject data storage as a supported use case"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1987553781551136991)  2025-11-09T16:12Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@BitcoinBombadil Glad to have your support Bombadil. I think the RDTS is the best way"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1987565066225406213)  2025-11-09T16:56Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@giacomozucco @_DavidSFreeman @boomer_btc Do you promote building consensus for the RDTS"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1987592629945798834)  2025-11-09T18:46Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@giacomozucco @_DavidSFreeman @boomer_btc Are you suggesting that you'd support the RDTS if it had a later activation block"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1987648395029385360)  2025-11-09T22:28Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@Ali2kCom @LukeDashjr The code for the reactive deployment is public and would work just fine in an emergency but having that in the BIP was inhibiting consensus-building"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1987649953125048328)  2025-11-09T22:34Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@SuperTestnet @HodlBits @bitcoin_eagle @mononautical May I ask why not"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1987911253629497762)  2025-11-10T15:52Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@MrHodl @Rob1Ham @Shireh0dl Correct and the 5% who think Bitcoin isn't money will fork off as well"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1987912086387569060)  2025-11-10T15:55Z [---] followers, [----] engagements


"@MrHodl @Rob1Ham @Shireh0dl Of course. I have other things to work on at the moment however so please don't waste my time with this right now"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1987915908807872547)  2025-11-10T16:11Z [---] followers, [----] engagements


"@zndtoshi @MrHodl @Rob1Ham @Shireh0dl The Bitcoin community would obviously reject a fork to add KYC"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1987926003839095260)  2025-11-10T16:51Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@_DavidSFreeman @zndtoshi @MrHodl @Rob1Ham @Shireh0dl Not strictly true. Default policy protects Bitcoin from abuses of some of its more relaxed consensus rules. It would be ideal to tighten the consensus rules to match what's commonly used on the network but until Core [--] this was unnecessary. Now it's necessary"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1987973501177978956)  2025-11-10T19:59Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@_DavidSFreeman @zndtoshi @MrHodl @Rob1Ham @Shireh0dl Any policy running on 100% of nodes is effectively consensus. In any case increasing the OP_RETURN limit by over 1000x as Core [--] did is clearly "quickly changing" Bitcoin. The RDTS puts it back where it was so it enforces the "hard to quickly change" property you desire"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1987999813854539879)  2025-11-10T21:44Z [----] followers, [----] engagements


"@MrHodl @_DavidSFreeman @zndtoshi @Rob1Ham @Shireh0dl No the new default policy in Core [--] meaningfully and negatively impacts Bitcoin's monetary properties even with low adoption"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988014907158093844)  2025-11-10T22:44Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@murchandamus I would say 99.999% is effectively consensus too"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988072621184053642)  2025-11-11T02:33Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@peterktodd @_DavidSFreeman @zndtoshi @MrHodl @Rob1Ham @Shireh0dl My point is that practically everyone agreed that the limit should be [--]. So enforcing that in the consensus rules seems sensible"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988073661643849763)  2025-11-11T02:37Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@SuperTestnet @woke_bitcoiner @HodlBits @bitcoin_eagle @mononautical Thanks for the response. I disagree. I think that's a great strategy for everyone to ignore us and the chain to fill up with spam while we do nothing"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988075493841658205)  2025-11-11T02:45Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@0xFlick @peterktodd @_DavidSFreeman @zndtoshi @MrHodl @Rob1Ham @Shireh0dl It wouldn't make sense to limit that in consensus"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988077830253560180)  2025-11-11T02:54Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@SuperTestnet @ProofOfCash @twelvetytwenty @mononautical I don't agree with these statistics. Talk to people who actually run nodes"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988084278559916344)  2025-11-11T03:20Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@zndtoshi @0xFlick @peterktodd @_DavidSFreeman @MrHodl @Rob1Ham @Shireh0dl If Bitcoin's market price rises to $10M/coin then suddenly we would need to hardfork in order to allow transactions that pay less than about $20"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988230571139719479)  2025-11-11T13:01Z [---] followers, [----] engagements


"@theog__ @peterktodd @_DavidSFreeman @zndtoshi @MrHodl @Rob1Ham @Shireh0dl The discussions are all public. I am soliciting feedback here on X if you have suggestions or objections"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988230936064913504)  2025-11-11T13:02Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@BitcoinScoresby @zndtoshi @MrHodl @Rob1Ham @Shireh0dl That is a very anti-free-market position"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988276805917344198)  2025-11-11T16:05Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@_DavidSFreeman @theog__ @peterktodd @zndtoshi @MrHodl @Rob1Ham @Shireh0dl Please be specific"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988318964469166227)  2025-11-11T18:52Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@_DavidSFreeman @theog__ @peterktodd @zndtoshi @MrHodl @Rob1Ham @Shireh0dl I think most Bitcoiners disagree but understood"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988329010682830973)  2025-11-11T19:32Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@mononautical Inputs spending pre-activation UTXOs are exempt from restrictions. Were you able to verify whether any of these were held off-chain for extended periods"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1988479278522986936)  2025-11-12T05:29Z [----] followers, [----] engagements


"@peterktodd @mononautical Are there any known L2 protocols that use these formats"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988491168498204858)  2025-11-12T06:16Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@murchandamus You're saying the author must respond to 100% of messages in order for the softfork to succeed"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988491620384141466)  2025-11-12T06:18Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@SatsAndSports @mononautical The activation date will be extended"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1988596091932352732)  2025-11-12T13:13Z [----] followers, 15.4K engagements


"@mike_4131 @gardling @BitcoinBombadil @CatoTheElder17 @bitcoin_eagle @4moonsettler @SuperTestnet @woke_bitcoiner @HodlBits @mononautical Of course but Bitcoin will be committed to rejecting data storage in consensus at that point so there will be a much greater political will for filtering spam"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988662820389667268)  2025-11-12T17:38Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@jajaja123455925 @peterktodd @mononautical Of course and yes the miniscript compiler will need to be modified to support this softfork. But that is not relevant to the previous topic which was P2PK and P2MS"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988664255940624734)  2025-11-12T17:44Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@gardling @CatoTheElder17 @bitcoin_eagle @4moonsettler @mike_4131 @SuperTestnet @woke_bitcoiner @HodlBits @mononautical Satoshi softforked in [----] to fix spam issues"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988664634036101445)  2025-11-12T17:46Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@lifofifo @mike_4131 @gardling @BitcoinBombadil @CatoTheElder17 @bitcoin_eagle @4moonsettler @SuperTestnet @woke_bitcoiner @HodlBits @mononautical Those will be dealt with in policy"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988665355640926462)  2025-11-12T17:49Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@mike_4131 @gardling @BitcoinBombadil @CatoTheElder17 @bitcoin_eagle @4moonsettler @SuperTestnet @woke_bitcoiner @HodlBits @mononautical That's not what I said"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988665646348136777)  2025-11-12T17:50Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@gardling @lifofifo @mike_4131 @BitcoinBombadil @CatoTheElder17 @bitcoin_eagle @4moonsettler @SuperTestnet @woke_bitcoiner @HodlBits @mononautical Bitcoin needs to commit to rejecting data storage in consensus. Once this precedent is set filtering data spam in policy will be straightforward"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988666133344637074)  2025-11-12T17:52Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@GregTonoski @ChrisMartl That is not recommended at the moment. The code as is does not actually activate but it does give your node a ReducedData-compatible relay policy"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988745399738462445)  2025-11-12T23:07Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@SuperTestnet @BitcoinBombadil @lifofifo @mike_4131 @gardling @CatoTheElder17 @bitcoin_eagle @woke_bitcoiner @HodlBits @mononautical I'm open to suggestions but my position is that those can be dealt with in policy once the ReducedData rules go into effect. Activating the RDTS should reinforce the political will to fight spam in policy"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1988747175699120622)  2025-11-12T23:14Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@SuperTestnet @BitcoinBombadil @lifofifo @mike_4131 @gardling @CatoTheElder17 @bitcoin_eagle @woke_bitcoiner @HodlBits @mononautical Runes in particular were designed to respect long-established data limits so invalidating them in consensus seems unnecessary. But we can always escalate later if needed"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1988748064694145090)  2025-11-12T23:17Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@SuperTestnet @BitcoinBombadil @lifofifo @mike_4131 @gardling @CatoTheElder17 @bitcoin_eagle @woke_bitcoiner @HodlBits @mononautical It would also complicate the code which was designed to minimize review burden"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988748191441801596)  2025-11-12T23:18Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@SuperTestnet @gardling @CatoTheElder17 @bitcoin_eagle @mike_4131 @woke_bitcoiner @HodlBits @mononautical OP_CAT among other things"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988748776853602687)  2025-11-12T23:20Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@jajaja123455925 @peterktodd @mononautical I don't see why it wouldn't be feasible. Miniscript is open source software"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988750222005268626)  2025-11-12T23:26Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@ProofOfCash It's the opposite of that. The ReducedData fork is the anti-ossification upgrade because it re-establishes the precedent Satoshi set of fixing problems with previous forks. This allows us to upgrade more confidently knowing that if things break they will be fixed"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1988802240048689344)  2025-11-13T02:52Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"I have submitted an update to the ReducedData Temporary Softfork BIP PR. I updated the Abstract Motivation Specification and Deployment sections: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/2017 https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/2017"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1988812637506023847)  2025-11-13T03:34Z [----] followers, [----] engagements


"@ProofOfCash I will assume no one is using them if no one says they are using them. It is not reasonable to prevent Bitcoin from being upgraded because there might be unknown use cases"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988817870730719489)  2025-11-13T03:55Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@ProofOfCash Okay thanks. How likely do you think it is that someone has made a pre-signed transaction using such a wallet"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988822568032215405)  2025-11-13T04:13Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@giacomozucco @lukedewolf Several people including yourself commented that they would not support a fast activation so I have decided to do a MASF instead of a UASF. Does this affect your level of support"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1988963423351345348)  2025-11-13T13:33Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@MajorianBTC I am open to revising it to be permanent if there is community support. That would simplify the activation logic"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1988987551844380976)  2025-11-13T15:09Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@CatoTheElder17 @JuergenStrobel Yes anyone who criticizes the BIP without explaining what they would do better can be assumed to be a troll"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989003182773555455)  2025-11-13T16:11Z [----] followers, 10.9K engagements


"@stephanlivera Would you support the RDTS if I removed the limitation on OP_IF Personally I don't think it is a concern given the benefit but if it makes the difference between achieving consensus or not it should be on the table"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989017499992748242)  2025-11-13T17:08Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@JuergenStrobel @CatoTheElder17 Are you trying to argue that "invalidating all of the most harmful methods" is dishonest because you think that Stamps are more harmful than BRC-20"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989026760198144091)  2025-11-13T17:45Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


""Don't break userspace" while a nice idea is not applicable to Bitcoin if "userspace" means "stuffing blocks with arbitrary data". @GrassFedBitcoin puts it very well here:"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989030925821440068)  2025-11-13T18:01Z [----] followers, [----] engagements


"@JuergenStrobel @CatoTheElder17 No BRC-20 is worse. https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989026760198144091t=fQFmz3dP7L_lg8BNald6Fg&s=19 @JuergenStrobel @CatoTheElder17 Are you trying to argue that "invalidating all of the most harmful methods" is dishonest because you think that Stamps are more harmful than BRC-20 https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989026760198144091t=fQFmz3dP7L_lg8BNald6Fg&s=19 @JuergenStrobel @CatoTheElder17 Are you trying to argue that "invalidating all of the most harmful methods" is dishonest because you think that Stamps are more harmful than BRC-20"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989034985110524295)  2025-11-13T18:17Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@_DavidSFreeman @theog__ @peterktodd @zndtoshi @MrHodl @Rob1Ham @Shireh0dl It is more aimed at ecosystem development but protocol developers have an ever-expanding list of "use cases" to try not to "break" with every consensus upgrade so they are burdened as well"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989035861200269391)  2025-11-13T18:21Z [---] followers, 22.3K engagements


"@mononautical @crypto_0ptimist No one's coins are being "seized". Please dispense with the hyperbole"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989037375448658199)  2025-11-13T18:27Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@peterktodd Unfortunately Taproot enabled more harm from arbitrary data storage than good from real monetary usage. The RDTS will fix it. Thankfully very few people if any are using Taproot in ways that could be affected by the RDTS"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989041900553126081)  2025-11-13T18:45Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@0xFlick @mononautical @crypto_0ptimist Bitcoin has always allowed intentionally shooting yourself in the foot"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989043102653276604)  2025-11-13T18:50Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@peterktodd Your intentional misrepresentation of my proposal's motivation is getting tiresome. The goal is not to completely block all methods of embedding arbitrary data. I've rewritten the Motivation section to try to dispel any remaining confusion. https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988821058787438851 Here's a summary of the current status: https://t.co/FqHN1E3RkY And here's the new Motivation section: https://t.co/xezjWvGmZ2 https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1988821058787438851 Here's a summary of the current status: https://t.co/FqHN1E3RkY And here's the new Motivation section:"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989045040040046920)  2025-11-13T18:57Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@SatsAndSports What's your threshold for consensus Most softforks have activated at about 95% support"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989050813415846029)  2025-11-13T19:20Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@sashahodler "As long as the node operator. is not downloading this stuff onto their computer" You appear to be ignoring the fact that a node is a computer"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989189077242089699)  2025-11-14T04:30Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@stephanlivera @sashahodler Because image scanning software doesn't use bitcoin-cli and a bunch of piped shell commands It just looks for raw image files which is what images stored in OP_RETURN look like. And even if you obfuscate your block store you can still request the data from the rest interface"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989193536798167434)  2025-11-14T04:47Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@stephanlivera @sashahodler The problem with OP_RETURN is that its intended use and therefore its intended interpretation is as intentional file storage"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989193797104988380)  2025-11-14T04:48Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@stephanlivera @sashahodler My concern is that once storing images in the blockchain starts to catch on it might become a majority of activity on the network. At that point why run a node"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989201204652777651)  2025-11-14T05:18Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@stephanlivera @sashahodler [--]. Incorrect. Nodes that did their IBD before v28 have unobfuscated stores. I'm fairly certain this is a large majority of nodes. [--]. If Bitcoin becomes popular for storing illegal data how long will you be able to ignore that"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989204743886106794)  2025-11-14T05:32Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@stephanlivera @sashahodler [--]. Because that doesn't fix the problem. [--]. If Bitcoin is used more for storing illegal data than for money isn't storing illegal data then its purpose The system is what it does"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989206100391211409)  2025-11-14T05:37Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@rot13maxi @stephanlivera @sashahodler It can fetch inscriptions but then it needs extra steps to piece them together into an image. OP_RETURN does not require any extra steps"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989326162040951084)  2025-11-14T13:34Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@SuperTestnet @salvatoshi @mononautical That is a much weaker stance against inscriptions. We should avoid making the restrictions too easy to work around. But I'm open to considering a more elegant solution here that doesn't increase code complexity unnecessarily"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989329273358811343)  2025-11-14T13:47Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@rot13maxi @stephanlivera @sashahodler We must draw the line between money and arbitrary data somewhere. I think the best line is contiguous data"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989330623354245169)  2025-11-14T13:52Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@stephanlivera @flaming_hodl @sashahodler It worked for everything 2010-2023. There are no examples of spam with low demand that were not successfully filtered and there is at least one example of a filter that was successfully implemented after a period of high demand: the dust filter"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989340387039920428)  2025-11-14T14:31Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@stephanlivera @flaming_hodl @sashahodler The reason is obvious. Core did not immediately filter inscriptions as soon as they appeared. Every previous time a new form of spam emerged Core filtered it which prevented it from growing into an industry. But for some reason with inscriptions they didn't so here we are"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989342761502601383)  2025-11-14T14:40Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@stephanlivera @flaming_hodl @sashahodler Anyway the dust filter proves that I am correct"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989344050819023007)  2025-11-14T14:45Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@_DavidSFreeman @adam3us @sashahodler Correct. Or someone else might run the scanner and potentially come to some unfavorable conclusions about the intention of the node operator"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989345872900194732)  2025-11-14T14:53Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@_DavidSFreeman @adam3us @sashahodler Because that doesn't fix the problem. The problem is supporting arbitrary data storage"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989356319074365534)  2025-11-14T15:34Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@JuergenStrobel @peterktodd No you are just a troll. https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989332084549198198t=wHjI_4nmuaS8q_FQkBaL2A&s=19 @JuergenStrobel @CatoTheElder17 That is an absurd question. Give me an OP_RETURN token protocol to compare to Stamps or ask me to compare OP_RETURN to fake pubkeys. https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989332084549198198t=wHjI_4nmuaS8q_FQkBaL2A&s=19 @JuergenStrobel @CatoTheElder17 That is an absurd question. Give me an OP_RETURN token protocol to compare to Stamps or ask me to compare OP_RETURN to fake pubkeys"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989416705446351335)  2025-11-14T19:34Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@salvatoshi @SuperTestnet @bitcoin_eagle @mononautical This softfork is nothing at all like Taproot. It's less than [---] lines of consensus code"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989489540600393887)  2025-11-15T00:24Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@salvatoshi @SuperTestnet @bitcoin_eagle @mononautical It is applicable to your Taproot example because that was a huge change"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989493235384033427)  2025-11-15T00:38Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@JuergenStrobel @zndtoshi @CatoTheElder17 Yes the original true vision of Bitcoin being money rather than data storage which was effective from [----] until Core 30"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989687143602499788)  2025-11-15T13:29Z [----] followers, [----] engagements


"@MrHodl @GrassFedBitcoin From 2009-2025 the most popular node software always treated such abuse with antagonism. This new friendlier stance towards data spam is therefore very different from the status quo that existed from [----] until 2025"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989689337802277210)  2025-11-15T13:37Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@MrHodl @GrassFedBitcoin And people have always said we couldn't do anything about it and yet we always did"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989689387878080540)  2025-11-15T13:38Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@MrHodl @JuergenStrobel @zndtoshi @CatoTheElder17 Do you have evidence that Satoshi wanted Bitcoin to become primarily data storage rather than money"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989690720823689474)  2025-11-15T13:43Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@MrHodl @GrassFedBitcoin I agree with you that casually removing long-established data limits is harmful. The RDTS prevents this change from becoming too damaging to Bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989691633084879336)  2025-11-15T13:47Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@MrHodl @JuergenStrobel @zndtoshi @CatoTheElder17 For better or worse Satoshi largely defined what Bitcoin is. I want to keep Bitcoin how it is which is the world's best money"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989692399904268704)  2025-11-15T13:50Z [----] followers, [----] engagements


"@zndtoshi @CatoTheElder17 @JuergenStrobel Okay I will concede that the opposition to Segwit was mostly people who wanted a hardfork. But I don't think any softfork is different in that manner. Anyone who wants to oppose the RDTS will also be supporting a hardfork"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989727729189884128)  2025-11-15T16:10Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@zndtoshi @CatoTheElder17 @JuergenStrobel I will not concede that the status quo opposes fighting spam"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989729582661210585)  2025-11-15T16:17Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@zndtoshi @BitcoinMotorist @FullyNoded No there are roughly twice as many Knots nodes as Core [--] nodes"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989731448694177863)  2025-11-15T16:25Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@zndtoshi @BitcoinBombadil @CatoTheElder17 @JuergenStrobel If Segwit supporters were "attackers" then the "attack" can be successful and this can benefit Bitcoin enormously"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989732576035270916)  2025-11-15T16:29Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@zndtoshi @CatoTheElder17 @JuergenStrobel The "status quo" you are "for" is only a month or two old. I am for the status quo representing the rest of Bitcoin's history"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989732857624014893)  2025-11-15T16:30Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@zndtoshi @CatoTheElder17 @JuergenStrobel I wish you well on your spam chain"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989734869136728076)  2025-11-15T16:38Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@kliberaali You don't want Bitcoin to be money"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989735643824676998)  2025-11-15T16:41Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@zndtoshi @BitcoinBombadil @CatoTheElder17 @JuergenStrobel What's "false" They wanted the status quo of pre-full-blocks which was low fees and fast confirmations. When the blocks filled up this status quo was no longer sustainable without major changes"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989737856185807345)  2025-11-15T16:50Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@BitcoinBombadil @kliberaali Precisely. Spam degrades the property rights of all Bitcoiners because all Bitcoiners want Bitcoin to be money"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989784819815895345)  2025-11-15T19:57Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@SatsAndSports @kliberaali Nothing is being "nuked". OP_SUCCESS will be usable again once the fork expires"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989785048451527056)  2025-11-15T19:58Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@cdcm99 Thank you for your support"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989786462078804260)  2025-11-15T20:03Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@BTCMcBoatface @cornfedbtc You can ignore Bitcoin maximalists if you want but they are the economic center of gravity of Bitcoin so whichever chain they support is the real Bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989792136167125168)  2025-11-15T20:26Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@HodlDee @BitcoinBombadil @kliberaali Because the Bitcoin community was expecting Core to filter the spam as they've always done"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1989862336073764935)  2025-11-16T01:05Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@HodlDee @BitcoinBombadil @kliberaali Are you suggesting that no one was doing anything for the last three years"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1989863818629881917)  2025-11-16T01:11Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@w_s_bitcoin An auspicious result for a proposal that doesn't even have an official activation client"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1990075644592468478)  2025-11-16T15:13Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@zndtoshi @BitcoinBombadil @CatoTheElder17 @JuergenStrobel Okay so you agree that those in favor of your definition of "status quo" don't always win"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990087754244366828)  2025-11-16T16:01Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@zndtoshi @BitcoinBombadil @CatoTheElder17 @JuergenStrobel Both sides saw themselves as maintaining the status quo. The same is true this time. But I think the maximalists have more of a claim to the status quo than the new arrivals"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990097148277309587)  2025-11-16T16:38Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@w_s_bitcoin Wait until the activation client is released"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1990097409603444950)  2025-11-16T16:39Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@zndtoshi @BitcoinBombadil @CatoTheElder17 @JuergenStrobel I didn't see that as an attack. It caused no damage"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990102733400015176)  2025-11-16T17:00Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@zndtoshi @BitcoinBombadil @CatoTheElder17 @JuergenStrobel It is impossible to permanently invalidate arbitrary data in the consensus rules. But it's possible to avoid most of the damage using less permissive consensus rules and a will to use policy"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990103633501843649)  2025-11-16T17:04Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@JuergenStrobel @CatoTheElder17 @zndtoshi @BitcoinBombadil Bitcoin tames the State. But only if it stays money for the long term"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1990129416639230390)  2025-11-16T18:46Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@w_s_bitcoin Still working out the details"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990129764116418591)  2025-11-16T18:48Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@w_s_bitcoin Out of date"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990138634511519785)  2025-11-16T19:23Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@w_s_bitcoin No but the timeline is being extended to allow for much more than 10% support. I expect a majority of hashpower to support"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1990139484659179658)  2025-11-16T19:26Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@w_s_bitcoin I think you're wrong. Bitcoiners want Bitcoin to be money"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1990140054258307210)  2025-11-16T19:28Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@w_s_bitcoin I just told you that the timeline has been extended. No one will feel "rushed""  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1990141534444896424)  2025-11-16T19:34Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@w_s_bitcoin On the contrary"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990147980687737265)  2025-11-16T20:00Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@Rob1Ham @SatsAndSports @w_s_bitcoin See my reply immediately after that in the chat. It's more about review burden than coding burden"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990162828297441675)  2025-11-16T20:59Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@Rob1Ham @SatsAndSports @w_s_bitcoin That's not what I said"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990163492608102855)  2025-11-16T21:02Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@w_s_bitcoin @Rob1Ham @SatsAndSports There is plenty of interest. One step at a time"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990168498148880635)  2025-11-16T21:22Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@Rob1Ham @w_s_bitcoin @SatsAndSports It would be straightforward to port to Core. I will do it if necessary but I imagine Core will do it themselves once signaling starts picking up"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990168776185397510)  2025-11-16T21:23Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@w_s_bitcoin @RainDogDance I am leaning back towards building LOT=true into the initial client"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990175005033025638)  2025-11-16T21:47Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@w_s_bitcoin @RainDogDance We're not backing down if that's what you're suggesting"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990176572469383381)  2025-11-16T21:54Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@SatsAndSports @w_s_bitcoin @RainDogDance It's a contest between BIP8 and BIP9 right now"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990178982558326813)  2025-11-16T22:03Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@satflation @w_s_bitcoin @RainDogDance The code for the reactive activation is public. It is no longer a part of the RDTS proposal but in theory it could be deployed if Bitcoin were in serious danger and the community agreed to deploy it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990183268189446250)  2025-11-16T22:20Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@Pledditor My proposal returns Bitcoin to its proper role as resistance money"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1990213695797154144)  2025-11-17T00:21Z [----] followers, [----] engagements


"@itme_brain @CatoTheElder17 @gardling @SatsAndSports @kliberaali If you wanted to stop Bitcoin from signaling support for file storage where would you draw the line between money and file storage"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990220601504723397)  2025-11-17T00:49Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@Shireh0dl @decentmoney2009 @Pledditor No funds will be locked except potentially funds from people who are using Bitcoin in highly experimental ways and also unaware that the fork is happening (which is no one)"  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1990251832309125265)  2025-11-17T02:53Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@CatoTheElder17 @itme_brain @gardling @SatsAndSports @kliberaali It's a major code change. @itme_brain can make his own proposal if he wants"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990252174761480592)  2025-11-17T02:54Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@CatoTheElder17 @_DavidSFreeman @JuergenStrobel @zndtoshi @BitcoinBombadil I'm assuming any Bitcoiner dislikes both large tyrannical states and spam"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990492224271110644)  2025-11-17T18:48Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@warlockbtc What was not resolved Can you link to the thread There are dozens of threads on that PR"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990788068279005290)  2025-11-18T14:23Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"Looks like someone has already countered the Ordiknots spam format. @GrassFedBitcoin New filters costs much less than $6.8 million dollars https://t.co/1zUdeDofed @GrassFedBitcoin New filters costs much less than $6.8 million dollars https://t.co/1zUdeDofed"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990840444578562224)  2025-11-18T17:52Z [---] followers, 39.2K engagements


"@zndtoshi The code is public yes. Anyone can deploy it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990854240026214876)  2025-11-18T18:46Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@_DavidSFreeman That was an old filter that wasn't being abused for spam. There was zero will to filter those transactions"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990865346194981266)  2025-11-18T19:31Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@_DavidSFreeman That doesn't address my point"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990868126506901568)  2025-11-18T19:42Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@_DavidSFreeman Miners were not filtering which means "100% of the node runners actions are filtering" is not an applicable claim"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990903144843194677)  2025-11-18T22:01Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"Them: "Filters don't work. Look we can update our spam every week." Us: "Look here's a filter for the spam you designed yesterday." Them: "Not like that" It's hard to overstate how nuts this Knots pull-req is. To be able to respond to "spam" quickly they want to add Lua scripts to Knots that would detect "spam" based on an arbitrary score. What's next a central Luke-run feed of auto-updated "spam" filters OFAC anyone. https://t.co/hvbQxuTLPs It's hard to overstate how nuts this Knots pull-req is. To be able to respond to "spam" quickly they want to add Lua scripts to Knots that would detect"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990921281932570947)  2025-11-18T23:13Z [---] followers, 13.8K engagements


"@kyletorpey @peterktodd FUD https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990923664318214159 @peterktodd Bitcoin is decentralized. Filters are only effective if a large majority of the network runs them. I don't think there is any reason to expect a large majority of the network to run OFAC filters. https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990923664318214159 @peterktodd Bitcoin is decentralized. Filters are only effective if a large majority of the network runs them. I don't think there is any reason to expect a large majority of the network to run OFAC filters"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990923892417040618)  2025-11-18T23:23Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@peterktodd So which is it Is the Lua filter "nuts" because it leads to OFAC censorship Or is it easy to bypass"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1990947258771152897)  2025-11-19T00:56Z [---] followers, [----] engagements


"@csuwildcat @rot13maxi @peterktodd The solution to this problem is not to drown Bitcoin in spam. The solution is to work towards decentralizing the mining industry and economic nodes"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991162943677899043)  2025-11-19T15:13Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@CarstenBKK @peterktodd If you can't imagine decentralized dynamic spam filtration then: 1) You have not been paying attention to Bitcoin for the last [--] years and 2) You don't have much imagination"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991163302735487236)  2025-11-19T15:15Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@lukedewolf @DelcinMaria @ProofOfCash It's a problem only if node operators think that filters don't work"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991163449263399062)  2025-11-19T15:15Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@0xFlick It depends on how bad the spam gets"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991321083270537234)  2025-11-20T01:41Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"This new version of the filter works great. Excellent work Praveen Thanks @mononautical for reviewing this draft PR I pushed some changes to this garbage-tier slop this morning. It should be slightly less garbage now. The new version has the detect and decode logic ported from ordiknots and uses that to filter. The first draft was a quick and Thanks @mononautical for reviewing this draft PR I pushed some changes to this garbage-tier slop this morning. It should be slightly less garbage now. The new version has the detect and decode logic ported from ordiknots and uses that to filter. The"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991384261853868359)  2025-11-20T05:53Z [---] followers, [----] engagements


"@ClioBitcoinBank The first version was a quick proof-of-concept. It was clearly not intended to go into production in that state"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991490314528502040)  2025-11-20T12:54Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@w_s_bitcoin @aeonBTC @_DavidSFreeman If we treat miners that mine certain transactions as hostile miners then they have a greater incentive to filter"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991493782358094008)  2025-11-20T13:08Z [---] followers, [----] engagements


"@w_s_bitcoin @SatsAndSports @aeonBTC @_DavidSFreeman The economic majority dislikes spam"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991508749132132384)  2025-11-20T14:07Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@w_s_bitcoin @SatsAndSports @aeonBTC @_DavidSFreeman The RDTS will prove you wrong"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991509254168076589)  2025-11-20T14:09Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@A86664949 @mattkratter Only the original version of the proposal was designed *in case* of an emergency (and even that version had a proactive activation as well). The new version of the proposal has a different motivation but I still think [--] months is about as fast as Bitcoin can come to consensus"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991716591315349667)  2025-11-21T03:53Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@Rob1Ham @COLDCARDwallet You want users to use Tapleaves that might be unusable for a year"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991729445284335836)  2025-11-21T04:44Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@zamir591582 @mattkratter The plan for the threshold is currently 55% of mining hashpower by September. If the threshold is not reached by the deadline we activate the new rules anyway and at that there is a huge incentive for miners to jump onto the new chain"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991731318456217797)  2025-11-21T04:52Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@zndtoshi There are two important differences between mempoolfullrbf and OP_RETURN. The first is that large OP_RETURN outputs are much more harmful to Bitcoin than full-RBF transactions"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991736764810293452)  2025-11-21T05:13Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@satflation @COLDCARDwallet I think all contiguous data 256B signals support for image storage"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991852364924612808)  2025-11-21T12:53Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@ColorCombos @mattkratter [--] months. And only if miners fail to activate it until September. If they activate it in January then it expires in January 2027"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991852867674923010)  2025-11-21T12:55Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@satflation @COLDCARDwallet So champion a BIP implementing that"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991855868300915050)  2025-11-21T13:07Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@satflation @COLDCARDwallet Write a BIP document and post it on the mailing list. Ideally implement it in code first and ask for help if you get stuck. If your idea has merit people will help"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991871017875390558)  2025-11-21T14:07Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@axexang @o_lalonde @zndtoshi A chain split is definitely possible if there is a lot of opposition to rejecting data storage"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991871289448137118)  2025-11-21T14:08Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@axexang @o_lalonde @zndtoshi But I don't expect there to be much opposition once we reach the deadline"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991872042279538905)  2025-11-21T14:11Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"When in doubt about which side to support in a conflict always support the side that wants more people to run nodes"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991873331621142792)  2025-11-21T14:16Z [---] followers, [----] engagements


"@zndtoshi @lifofifo @axexang @o_lalonde Are central bankers Bitcoiners"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991881336144208200)  2025-11-21T14:48Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@prophecy_777 They risk almost nothing by being early to mine the softfork chain as they have much less competition. In contrast they risk a lot by staying on the old chain. The last miner to jump to the new chain loses the most"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991899616728723629)  2025-11-21T16:00Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@prophecy_777 Not really. The blocks on the new chain can never be "non-compliant" unless the new chain halts entirely"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991938365441388776)  2025-11-21T18:34Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@zndtoshi @axexang @o_lalonde As I've stated several times Bitcoiners must come together and state with one voice that Bitcoin is money and not data storage. If we cannot achieve this by September then I don't see any hope that Bitcoin will ever be able to destroy the money printer"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1991941661862302029)  2025-11-21T18:47Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@giacomozucco @Bitbello What would you have done better"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992218126038261971)  2025-11-22T13:06Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@zndtoshi @axexang @o_lalonde You are confused. This fork is neither contentious nor am I a tyrant. You are mistaking words for coercion. How will you assert that Bitcoin is money and not data storage without a softfork"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992225418003591221)  2025-11-22T13:35Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@rot13maxi @zndtoshi @axexang @o_lalonde That's not true at all. Nobody likes spam except spammers. The reason the softfork "isn't gaining traction" is because there isn't an activation client yet"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992239806236254601)  2025-11-22T14:32Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@zndtoshi @axexang @o_lalonde You should look into "adversarial thinking" if you want to have success in Bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992242384617558206)  2025-11-22T14:42Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@giacomozucco @Bitbello "no CSAM FUD at all' It's not FUD. I think it is a real risk and a completely unnecessary and unwanted burden for node operators of a financial network having nothing to do with data storage. Officially supporting data storage magnifies the risk"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992321700374167915)  2025-11-22T19:58Z [---] followers, [----] engagements


"@giacomozucco @Bitbello "block size reductions/L2s" This is not a large enough disincentive for data spam to prevent it from becoming Bitcoin's dominant use case"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992322042537160923)  2025-11-22T19:59Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@giacomozucco @Bitbello "OP_RETURN cap of 200k" I think you mean [---] bytes I would be fine with that. I don't think it was "sloppy" not to include it from the beginning"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992322607606374867)  2025-11-22T20:01Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@Pledditor My intention was never to divide. I am trying to build consensus"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992326179022389379)  2025-11-22T20:15Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@SameeLiaei @giacomozucco @Bitbello There is a nice-sounding but incorrect theory out there that "UTXO sharing will price out spam". What this leaves out is that the UTXO sharing schemes will never get a chance to take root if they are constantly a bad experience due to spam"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992337925472993592)  2025-11-22T21:02Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@zndtoshi @axexang @o_lalonde Do you oppose the RDTS because you think that Bitcoin should be money and data storage"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992348758395474095)  2025-11-22T21:45Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@zndtoshi @axexang @o_lalonde If Bitcoin is both money and data storage then it isn't money"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992355348632703271)  2025-11-22T22:11Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@giacomozucco @SameeLiaei @Bitbello Yes but onboarding new self-custodial users was a bad experience and probably permanently biased them against Bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992355839148216762)  2025-11-22T22:13Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@giacomozucco @SameeLiaei @Bitbello Good. I think we should also encourage others to do the same and we should especially hold Core accountable for encouraging data spam"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992356359061528683)  2025-11-22T22:15Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@zndtoshi @axexang @o_lalonde Bitcoin was money from 2009-2023 because the Core devs actively discouraged data spam. It's still money today but only because of inertia. It won't last if we do nothing"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992359593431994694)  2025-11-22T22:28Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@giacomozucco @SameeLiaei @Bitbello Core is actively obstructing Bitcoin's adoption as money by suddenly and unilaterally raising the standard amount of data storage allowed in a single transaction from [--] bytes to [------] bytes. We should not just sit idly by and let it happen"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992360110677733609)  2025-11-22T22:30Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@zndtoshi @axexang @o_lalonde I am not important but together we are important"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992360316097925255)  2025-11-22T22:31Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@CarlosJackkal @giacomozucco @Bitbello Do you think making the softfork two years would be better Or perhaps removing the upgrade hook restrictions and making a separate temporary softfork BIP with those in case of emergency"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992407775637639580)  2025-11-23T01:40Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@CarlosJackkal @giacomozucco @Bitbello I think if we start the mining signaling soon support will only grow over time"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992408579509518807)  2025-11-23T01:43Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@CarlosJackkal @giacomozucco @Bitbello What proposal are you referring to"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992425809387422192)  2025-11-23T02:51Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@CarlosJackkal @giacomozucco @Bitbello How fast do you think the network would agree to limit OP_RETURN in consensus Do you really think [--] months is too slow"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992426405427290361)  2025-11-23T02:54Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@bqq_carry @CarlosJackkal @giacomozucco @Bitbello I doubt that would gain consensus faster than [--] months"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992455380031676621)  2025-11-23T04:49Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@CarlosJackkal @giacomozucco @Bitbello @MajorianBTC Was this submitted as a BIP"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992455820408496432)  2025-11-23T04:51Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@CarlosJackkal @giacomozucco @Bitbello I don't think it makes sense to try the less effective proposal first then fall back to the more effective proposal"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992456241600438452)  2025-11-23T04:52Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@DanishBTCMaxi @LukeDashjr All of this is already addressed in the BIP. See: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/2017 https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/2017"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992609753164566621)  2025-11-23T15:02Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@DanishBTCMaxi @LukeDashjr Please leave a comment on the PR if you have specific recommendations for changes in the wording or the spec"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992609953690103874)  2025-11-23T15:03Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@DanishBTCMaxi @LukeDashjr There is no legal language in the BIP anymore; that comment out of date"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992610356892664200)  2025-11-23T15:05Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@giacomozucco @simulx4 @Bitbello I don't think the code for CISA is written yet"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992613978036658291)  2025-11-23T15:19Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@BitcoinBombadil @simulx4 @giacomozucco @Bitbello I would not be against adding CTV to the proposal since it is pro-money. But I completely agree that the data spam problem must be completely solved before it makes sense to start talking about other changes"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992623676106346739)  2025-11-23T15:58Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@MajorianBTC @CarlosJackkal @giacomozucco @Bitbello I wonder what the technical community would say if it were submitted as a PR to the BIPs repo. It has met the prerequisite of a dedicated ML discussion"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992624225392148659)  2025-11-23T16:00Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@MajorianBTC @CarlosJackkal @giacomozucco @Bitbello [---] is a good limit. I don't think I will support it by itself though because it does nothing to address Core's reluctance to fight data spam in policy. [--] at least says "Core doesn't get to unilaterally change the policy limit""  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992649157790830726)  2025-11-23T17:39Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@zndtoshi You are failing to think adversarially"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992666409311293792)  2025-11-23T18:47Z [---] followers, [---] engagements


"@giacomozucco @BitcoinBombadil @Kaneda02Bitcoin @lukedewolf @MajorianBTC @CarlosJackkal @Bitbello @jimmysong There is no risk to anyone's money if consensus is not reached as long as plenty of signaling time is allowed"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992989563069862385)  2025-11-24T16:11Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@satflation @lukedewolf @BitcoinBombadil @MajorianBTC @CarlosJackkal @giacomozucco @Bitbello I think something like: old dust should be either impossible or costlier to spend. That way we could remove it from the primary UTXO set"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1992994769421681041)  2025-11-24T16:32Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@DoctorBuzz1 @giacomozucco @BitcoinBombadil @lukedewolf @MajorianBTC @CarlosJackkal @Bitbello This is not a bad idea"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1993272482519040130)  2025-11-25T10:56Z [---] followers, [--] engagements


"@vijayselvam @GrassFedBitcoin The threat arises not from someone stuffing an image into the blockchain in some format that requires external software to decode; the threat arises from someone stuffing an image into the blockchain in a way that looks as though this is an intended use of Bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/dathon_ohm/status/1993276015729365015)  2025-11-25T11:10Z [---] followers, [---] engagements

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