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# ![@aeonBTC Avatar](https://lunarcrush.com/gi/w:26/cr:twitter::2606584651.png) @aeonBTC aeon

aeon posts on X about $8570t, $8267t, bitcoin, money the most. They currently have [-----] followers and [----] posts still getting attention that total [-----] engagements in the last [--] hours.

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### Social Influence

**Social category influence**
[cryptocurrencies](/list/cryptocurrencies)  [finance](/list/finance)  [technology brands](/list/technology-brands)  [stocks](/list/stocks)  [exchanges](/list/exchanges)  [fashion brands](/list/fashion-brands)  [travel destinations](/list/travel-destinations)  [social networks](/list/social-networks)  [automotive brands](/list/automotive-brands)  [countries](/list/countries) 

**Social topic influence**
[$8570t](/topic/$8570t) #74, [$8267t](/topic/$8267t) #74, [bitcoin](/topic/bitcoin), [money](/topic/money), [decentralized](/topic/decentralized), [transactions](/topic/transactions), [coinbase](/topic/coinbase), [relay](/topic/relay) #576, [has been](/topic/has-been), [blockchain](/topic/blockchain)

**Top accounts mentioned or mentioned by**
[@oceanmining](/creator/undefined) [@nickszabo4](/creator/undefined) [@grassfedbitcoin](/creator/undefined) [@lukedashjr](/creator/undefined) [@hodlonaut](/creator/undefined) [@cguida6](/creator/undefined) [@boomerbtc](/creator/undefined) [@adam3us](/creator/undefined) [@asanohagold](/creator/undefined) [@sameeliaei](/creator/undefined) [@reardencode](/creator/undefined) [@fa1rplayy](/creator/undefined) [@doctorbuzz1](/creator/undefined) [@bitcoinknots](/creator/undefined) [@cunyrenaud](/creator/undefined) [@dadguy1986](/creator/undefined) [@supertestnet](/creator/undefined) [@jimmysong](/creator/undefined) [@homobitcoinicus](/creator/undefined) [@cipherhoodlum](/creator/undefined)

**Top assets mentioned**
[Bitcoin (BTC)](/topic/bitcoin) [Coinbase Global Inc. (COIN)](/topic/coinbase) [Monero (XMR)](/topic/monero) [Bitvolt (VOLT)](/topic/bitvolt) [XRP (XRP)](/topic/xrp) [eCash (XEC)](/topic/ecash)
### Top Social Posts
Top posts by engagements in the last [--] hours

"@4moonsettler @evoskuil @stonelittletzon If that is the case what is the argument against a PoW/PoS hybrid consensus like decred"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1511452912878297094)  2022-04-05T21:17Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@P________L @evoskuil @4moonsettler @stonelittletzon The question is can a majority stake holder reject a valid PoW block simply because they have majority stake"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1511559872688623626)  2022-04-06T04:22Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@P________L @evoskuil @4moonsettler @stonelittletzon So the fallacy is correct in that PoW isnt offering any addition security since a majority PoS can invalidate valid blocks"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1511562662676684801)  2022-04-06T04:33Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@TTrevethan @gladstein What happens if the UTXO is worth less than the current fee rate From what I read the nlocktime carries over to the previous owner allowing them to potentially claim the funds"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1699512393783775294)  2023-09-06T19:58Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@TTrevethan @gladstein Also who is running the enclave https://github.com/commerceblock/mercurylayer/tree/main/enclave https://github.com/commerceblock/mercurylayer/tree/main/enclave"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1699514083706654877)  2023-09-06T20:05Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@leo_haf Who gets to decide how fast and how soon the UTXO set is allowed to grow"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1775226680745001345)  2024-04-02T18:19Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@WalkerAmerica Pi The Fountain Blueberry Waking Life Altered States Primer The Thirteenth Floor"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1890980525025665099)  2025-02-16T04:24Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"The definition of permissionless isn't a willingness to be permissive its the inability to restrict participation"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1892651916158500991)  2025-02-20T19:05Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@hmichellerose For example you can only withdraw from coinbase to a 2of2 multisig which coinbase is party to. If you want to spend your BTC from there you send a partially signed tx to coinbase they run it against their database of white/black lists and verify if they will sign it or not"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1894458427436667232)  2025-02-25T18:44Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@feline_toshi @LukeDashjr @Public_Pool_BTC @trendkraft Luke is projecting because Ocean itself is also centralized he and his team disparage competition and mislead people because they want the hashrate to join their pool and rake in more pool operator fees. Make no mistake Ocean does nothing to decentralize mining"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1912587339895095617)  2025-04-16T19:22Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@supermassbtc @_DavidSFreeman For some people its crucial that their txs get in the next block especially for L2 settlements. Which is why they need a complete view of the mempool. Many people want reliable peers who will not withhold certain txs from my node based on their subjective belief of value"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1938300819616784697)  2025-06-26T18:18Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@supermassbtc @_DavidSFreeman You cant filters inherently distort your mempool and are ultimately futile because your node is eventually gonna have to request the tx to validate it when it ends up in a block. Blockspace is a free market and people are free to spend their money on it how they choose"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1938307310889406825)  2025-06-26T18:44Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@d0mesticblend @econoalchemist Who owns and operates the Ocean pool servers What's the server URL your DATUM gateway connects to"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1964462291119985114)  2025-09-06T22:54Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@timoncc @GregTonoski When your node filters txs that end up in a block your node has to take time and resources to go out and re-request those txs from other nodes before it can validate the block. Whoever told you it saves resources lied to you"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1971043094016733383)  2025-09-25T02:44Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@_DavidSFreeman @boomer_btc Yeah not sure what makes people think that more decentralized mining would equate to miners leaving more fees on the table. More decentralized mining would mean more desire for profit especially as subsidy decreases. Unknown miners already mine blocks full of sub sat fees"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1973784972134854678)  2025-10-02T16:19Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@1btc1bitcoin @john_giovanni_ @ConradHart12 @jimmysong Fees will have to prop up miners at some point anyway. Just because miners are still being subsidized doesn't mean they are gonna leave money on the table. You act like $193 per block is nothing but for a pool like foundry or antpool that's an extra $57000 a week"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1975761229160628506)  2025-10-08T03:12Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@NickSzabo4 Are you aware that knots bricks itself after [--] years and rejects valid blocks as a forced update feature Why are you suggesting Bitcoin implementations with serious security consequences for users"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1975945827127607620)  2025-10-08T15:26Z [----] followers, [----] engagements


"@BitcoinBombadil Only way to cooperate is with consensus. Relay policy is not enforceable and can be easily bypassed. Propose a soft fork if you want to cooperate"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1977881566714957890)  2025-10-13T23:38Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@ocean_lawyer @GoldLeader89 @Ocean @LukeDashjr Ocean administers payouts to miners Ocean controls the coinbase tx that all miners adhere to when mining in the pool. Therefore Ocean does have unilateral power to restrict payouts to certain addresses. This is all documented in Ocean docs and Datum code. Stop misleading people"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979286285543182566)  2025-10-17T20:39Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@w_s_bitcoin @BullBitcoin_ @AquaBitcoin Another one that just came on the scene is @LayerZWallet"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979607316011069870)  2025-10-18T17:55Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@btc__realtor @stephanlivera Permissionless money doesn't care about your principles"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979945598901170317)  2025-10-19T16:19Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@taters_bitcoin Sorry to inform you but is Szabo who is full of it. The guy has no real arguments. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1978603580757307421 @bramk Nick lost the plot. Turned into a blockspace marxist like so many others trying to dictate what is or is not value. Value is subjective remember https://t.co/G7Wsr3c5Ne https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1978603580757307421 @bramk Nick lost the plot. Turned into a blockspace marxist like so many others trying to dictate what is or is not value. Value is subjective remember https://t.co/G7Wsr3c5Ne"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979955261780709706)  2025-10-19T16:58Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@ocean_lawyer @NickSzabo4 What new code No new code is being added relay policy can be changed. How come you aren't writing diatribes about Knots by default filtering Whirlpool Tx0 transactions for coordinating coinjoins You mislead people about Ocean pool and now you mislead about this shame"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979956936494956592)  2025-10-19T17:04Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"For all those who are praising @NickSzabo4 do you agree with this statement by him https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1978512043016687972 @ndgo1370 @NickSzabo4 Either Bitcoin is permissionless and censorship resistant or its not. There is no middle ground. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1978512043016687972 @ndgo1370 @NickSzabo4 Either Bitcoin is permissionless and censorship resistant or its not. There is no middle ground"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979958364370337858)  2025-10-19T17:10Z [----] followers, [----] engagements


"@timoncc @NickSzabo4 Im talking about Bitcoin consensus not relay policy. Relay policy is locally enforced on your node only and has nothing to do with how the network functions as a whole. Even with 99% of the network filtering it can still be bypassed see Sub Sat summer for proof of this"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979961191553507439)  2025-10-19T17:21Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@monerean @NickSzabo4 These metaphors are nonsense. A burglar aims to steal from me someone purchasing blockspace with their own money for their use has no negative effect on me. They are using Bitcoin as it was designed and inevitably how it is secured"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979972961798078902)  2025-10-19T18:08Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@monerean @NickSzabo4 Yeah this is exactly why we have a blocksize limit. It has nothing to do with filtering which has already been proven ineffective. Economic incentives dictate network behavior not your local relay policy. These arguments are just silly"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979974459558916344)  2025-10-19T18:14Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@monerean @NickSzabo4 Where am I telling people not to filter What I do is educate people on the drawbacks. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1954600684504137835 @AdamSimecka Are you familiar with the tradeoffs https://t.co/L0shqbxfDV https://t.co/YyIekRfnkb https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1954600684504137835 @AdamSimecka Are you familiar with the tradeoffs https://t.co/L0shqbxfDV https://t.co/YyIekRfnkb"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979975296750371140)  2025-10-19T18:17Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@JWWeatherman_ Dude this vulnerability was pointed out years ago. The docs tell people specifically not to use this function to generate seeds. Stop blaming libbitcoin for wallet creators being idiots and not understanding what they are implementing. https://github.com/libbitcoin/libbitcoin-explorer/wiki/CVE-2023-39910 https://github.com/libbitcoin/libbitcoin-explorer/wiki/CVE-2023-39910"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979975858816459080)  2025-10-19T18:20Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@monerean @NickSzabo4 Opreturn limit is not increasing the relay policy default is being changed. Read the relay policy misconception it explains my belief on filters/relay policy. In short they are irrelevant and it has been proven so by things like sub sat summer"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979977178910789912)  2025-10-19T18:25Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@eggofghost @ndgo1370 @NickSzabo4 Demand for blockspace is the fundamental security mechanism for Bitcoin as subsidy continues to decrease every [--] years"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979979039323676705)  2025-10-19T18:32Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@timoncc @NickSzabo4 If he read the thread he should of understood. He is the one that jumped in and didnt elaborate on anything when I asked him"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979979980416397430)  2025-10-19T18:36Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 What makes you think that filters do anything Are you aware that over the summer that 99% of the network was filtering sub sat feerate transactions and yet over [--] million were propagated and mined"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979980644718715048)  2025-10-19T18:39Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@timoncc @NickSzabo4 Correct relay policy has nothing to do with censorship resistance or the permissionless nature of Bitcoin. But that is not what thread was about that Szabo commented on. I asked him to clarify himself and he didnt"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979983534388662363)  2025-10-19T18:50Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Value is subjective. Are people free to spend their bitcoin on blockspace as they see fit Or should there be an authority that dictates what blockspace should or shouldnt be used for One is a free market and the other is marxism you cant have both"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979984094235963890)  2025-10-19T18:52Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1973536590632018257 @DoctorBuzz1 @NickSzabo4 @SameeLiaei Have you heard of steganography Arbitrary data can be hidden in endless places. I know you guys don't like hearing this but you need to accept it for your own sanity. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1973536590632018257 @DoctorBuzz1 @NickSzabo4 @SameeLiaei Have you heard of steganography Arbitrary data can be hidden in endless places. I know you guys don't like hearing this but you need to accept it for your own sanity"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979985294490562971)  2025-10-19T18:57Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 Regulations are arbitrary the state can make running a node illegal because you relay terrorist financing transactions. If you think the security of Bitcoin comes from appeasing the state you are fundamentally misinformed about what Bitcoin is and how it is secured"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979988836282405274)  2025-10-19T19:11Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Pakkaustukku @ProofOfCash @bramk https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979985733839651306 @Pakkaustukku @ProofOfCash @bramk Who allowed the [--] million+ sub sat feerate transactions to get mined even with 99% of the network filtering them Your framing is flawed you have this false idea that filters work they dont and it has been proven so. The evidence is on-chain for you to see. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979985733839651306 @Pakkaustukku @ProofOfCash @bramk Who allowed the [--] million+ sub sat feerate transactions to get mined even with 99% of the network filtering them Your framing is flawed you"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979988947658018989)  2025-10-19T19:12Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Grinfig @NickSzabo4 So its not permissionless and censorship resistant"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979989402328891660)  2025-10-19T19:13Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Pakkaustukku @ProofOfCash @bramk Your relay policy is not a signal Bitcoin is an economically incentivized network. Bidding on blockspace is what signals the network which is why filters immediately fail when economic incentives align"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979990347037204875)  2025-10-19T19:17Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 Good luck relying on the state for your security model"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979990727733219579)  2025-10-19T19:19Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 Bitcoin isn't AML/KYC compliant you have to opt in to that. Monero is no different"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979993446237765695)  2025-10-19T19:29Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@btc__realtor @NickSzabo4 You might want to read and understand this first. Value is subjective and people are free to use their money on a monetary network as they wish"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980020040218132650)  2025-10-19T21:15Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@omg21btc @NickSzabo4 Are people free to use their money as they please"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980022079971078361)  2025-10-19T21:23Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Thecowsmeow1 @MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 Because miners dont care about your relay policy it doesnt signal anything its a larp. What signals to miners is people bidding on blockspace. Again Bitcoin is an economically incentivized network not some altruistic fever dream where everyone is expected to act morally"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980022647833637338)  2025-10-19T21:26Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@DoctorBuzz1 @MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 F2pool doesnt have an option to submit transactions directly to their pool and they were the first pool to begin including sub sat feerate txs. Im sorry to break it to you but Bitcoin is not a fragile network it is robust and will route around any attempts to encumber txs"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980023246641926282)  2025-10-19T21:28Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 Whirlpool can break attempts to track Bitcoin. Monero still has on/off ramps as well its on major exchanges like Kraken and Bitfinex"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980025426773991459)  2025-10-19T21:37Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@ploughman_btc @NickSzabo4 https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980021914543493542 @deepchess_ @NickSzabo4 Who gets to decide which transactions are permissionless and censorship resistant then https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980021914543493542 @deepchess_ @NickSzabo4 Who gets to decide which transactions are permissionless and censorship resistant then"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980025534353662130)  2025-10-19T21:37Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Grinfig @NickSzabo4 Let them print money and hyperinflate their currency. They cant print Bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980027003635167445)  2025-10-19T21:43Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@omg21btc @NickSzabo4 Who is censoring ASICs"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980027173647130675)  2025-10-19T21:43Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@14g23h34 @NickSzabo4 Sub sat feerates were defaulted to [--] s/vb for over a decade and yet they utterly failed when economic incentives aligned against them. So what does that tell you about how useful default relay policy is"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980029973886058848)  2025-10-19T21:55Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Buying blockspace is not an abuse it is how Bitcoin is designed. Bitcoin is not hurt by full blocks and high fees. You are applying your own morality to the situation Bitcoin doesnt care about your morals"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980032893163561206)  2025-10-19T22:06Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 How is it my philosophy I am describing to you how Bitcoin works. The network relies on demand for blockspace is the fundamental security model. The fact that you dont like how people use the blockspace they purchase with their money is your own problem"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980036960841605425)  2025-10-19T22:22Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@14g23h34 @NickSzabo4 Doesn't matter what you believe. Name one thing they were wrong about. The way I see it the marxist worldview are from the people trying to encumber others from accessing the free market of blockspace with filters. Luckily it fails because Bitcoin is incredibly resilient"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980039067506291006)  2025-10-19T22:31Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Cipherhoodlum No limits have been changed default policy was changed. But as sub sat summer empirically showed us relay policy is useless"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980040191684587950)  2025-10-19T22:35Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Value is subjective this is the economic reality whether you like it or not. It seems you are the one applying objective value to things"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980040511324033107)  2025-10-19T22:36Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"Pretending your node has influence over others in the #Bitcoin network is like pretending your opinion has influence over others in a free market. Unless you are participating in the market you are irrelevant. In Bitcoin participating comes from of buying/selling blockspace"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980042690927706575)  2025-10-19T22:45Z [----] followers, [----] engagements


"@WillemvanOran18 @NickSzabo4 No consensus decides what happens on your node. But this post is not about filters being censorship I clearly state in other part of this thread that its not. I suggest you read the original thread Szabo commented on"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980058970544079105)  2025-10-19T23:50Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @reardencode @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Unfortunately a inherit drawback of ledger money. Gonna have to deal with it unless you want to do some central planning in the blockspace market. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1919797984105230742 Some nuance on the OP_RETURN debate. #Bitcoin is a ledger money (as opposed to coinage money) and ledger money inherently needs a database to function. Bitcoin uses the blockchain as that database and blockspace as a means to rate limit the growth of that database. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1919797984105230742 Some nuance on the"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980060095284494692)  2025-10-19T23:54Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@WillemvanOran18 @NickSzabo4 Decentralization comes from Bitcoin's permissionless nature and free market for blockspace. Free market economic incentive drive security not ideology and morals"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980063843394244838)  2025-10-20T00:09Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @reardencode @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980042690927706575 Pretending your node has influence over others in the #Bitcoin network is like pretending your opinion has influence over others in a free market. Unless you are participating in the market you are irrelevant. In Bitcoin participating comes from of buying/selling blockspace. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980042690927706575 Pretending your node has influence over others in the #Bitcoin network is like pretending your opinion has influence over others in a free market. Unless you"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980063986587775412)  2025-10-20T00:10Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@John77394613 @Cipherhoodlum You guy should propose on then but your soft fork will have spam on it too. I highly suggest you look into steganography arbitrary data can be hidden in endless places. It will be a endless cat and mouse game that destroys permissionless censorship resistance"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980066057886003630)  2025-10-20T00:18Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @reardencode @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 So can the government spin up 20k nodes and decide what Bitcoin is"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980067663125807240)  2025-10-20T00:24Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@DadGuy1986 @HomoBitcoinicus @NickSzabo4 That doesnt change anything about the security model of Bitcoin. Do you believe that miners will mine at a loss when the subsidy is gone if fees dont pick up"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980069691864560008)  2025-10-20T00:32Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@no_rulers_ @NickSzabo4 Bitcoin security is not reliant on relay policy. Relay policy has been violated countless times most notably over the summer when 99% of the network was filtering sub sat feerate txs and millions were still mined"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980071615028473925)  2025-10-20T00:40Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @reardencode @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Sure but the way you use your node has no influence on how other people use theirs"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980076406756536671)  2025-10-20T00:59Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @reardencode @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Sure nodes are free to change their config as they see fit no one is taking that away. Even Knots has some extreme defaults that filter whirlpool coinjoin coordination txs. But policy doesn't have influence look at sub sat summer as proof. Economic incentives drive behavior"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980080147807248733)  2025-10-20T01:14Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 In what context is it correct I asked him to elaborate and he didnt maybe you can"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980082089027670161)  2025-10-20T01:22Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 Are people free to use their money as they see fit on a monetary network Perhaps the problem is that you do not agree with how people value things and what they want to spend their bitcoin on"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980086002468508040)  2025-10-20T01:37Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 Are you aware that because of steganography you cannot stop people from storing arbitrary data in a database Especially when that database is permissionless"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980088134949118189)  2025-10-20T01:46Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 Its a cat and mouse game you can literally hide data in multiple pubkeys are you gonna limit multisigs coinjoins or L2 usage too Eventually you just cripple Bitcoin. Let the blocksize and economic incentives handle it its not a big deal"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980089395417145800)  2025-10-20T01:51Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 Then propose a soft fork to fix it. Yelling at people about pointless relay policy isnt gonna do it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980092165603881461)  2025-10-20T02:02Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 Im all for removing the segwit discount. Having a [--] tier market for blockspace is a distortion. I however am not for playing karen and trying to dictate how people use the blockspace they have purchased"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980093565528375538)  2025-10-20T02:07Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 Bitcoin ethos is different to everyone what matters is who is bidding on blockspace. You dont get to decide the right way to use blockspace"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980095625242067086)  2025-10-20T02:16Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 In a market the only way to decide is by economic action economic action in Bitcoin resides in either selling blockspace as a miner or buying blockspace as a user"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980099083944788391)  2025-10-20T02:29Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@kwsantiago @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 So can a government spin up 20k nodes and influence network behavior If so that makes for a very weak security model. The voice of a node comes from participating in the market which means bidding on blockspace not trying to tell other people how to use Bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980099447918154134)  2025-10-20T02:31Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@kwsantiago @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Eventually you run out of bitcoin paying for blockspace for moronic jpegs. Ask me how much I care if they waist their sats paying miners to secure the network. Glad you realize that 20k nodes "voting" cant change anything though"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980102386103501201)  2025-10-20T02:42Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@bitcoin1zation @NickSzabo4 So you agree that Bitcoin isnt censorship resistant and permissionless"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980102870109450280)  2025-10-20T02:44Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 Ok how do you prevent it You realize there are endless ways to put arbitrary data in a database right Look into steganography"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980103173789630659)  2025-10-20T02:45Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 The mechanism was economic incentive. Blocks were empty so users began offering bids below current market rate this is normal in any free market system. Miners saw these offers and accepted them. Purely organic supply and demand Bitcoin is an economically incentivized system"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980105631387554081)  2025-10-20T02:55Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@DadGuy1986 @HomoBitcoinicus @NickSzabo4 High fees and full blocks are not detrimental to Bitcoin its literally how the system was designed"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980105786249576658)  2025-10-20T02:56Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@TheBlueMatt Sv2 and DATUM arent decentralized. Both rely on centralized pool servers and operators who can be easily targeted by the state to impose any arbitrary condition they want. You should know this"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980109865285722311)  2025-10-20T03:12Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@NickSzabo4 @TG_Destroyer @Excellion @LukeDashjr @zamir591582 @adam3us @satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch What happens when the state requires miners to AML/KYC for every transaction they include in a block Its odd that you think Bitcoin's security and value proposition is built off of appeasing the state"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980112418908131668)  2025-10-20T03:22Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@petrijaervinen @NickSzabo4 You should read my website it might help you understand where im coming from and how/why Bitcoin resists the state. http://censorshipresistant.com http://censorshipresistant.com"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980114083681800638)  2025-10-20T03:29Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@petrijaervinen @NickSzabo4 Value is subjective someone might value keeping their title recorded on the chain. The point is that there is nothing you can do about how people use the blockspace they purchase"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980115467026239840)  2025-10-20T03:34Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@HomoBitcoinicus @GoldLeader89 @reardencode @OwenKemeys @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 That fact the Bitcoin is an economically rational system is how you can for the most part predict the next block. Miners who act irrationally because of ideology or state influence will lose market share and miners who prioritize for fee profit will gain market share"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980118945626788168)  2025-10-20T03:48Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@HomoBitcoinicus @GoldLeader89 @reardencode @OwenKemeys @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 The highest paying fees are the ones that will have a high likelihood of being in the next block"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980122562861662600)  2025-10-20T04:03Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@HomoBitcoinicus @GoldLeader89 @reardencode @OwenKemeys @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Predicting feerates is big part of all that especially if you are running a LN node. If you are running heavy filters you may not know the current market rate for blockspace"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980126402348482844)  2025-10-20T04:18Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Arthur_van_Pelt @petrijaervinen @NickSzabo4 Sub sat summer showed that even with 99% of the network filtering you still can't prevent willing buyers from accessing blockspace. Bitcoin is more resistant to censorship than any of us realized"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980183433210167631)  2025-10-20T08:04Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Arthur_van_Pelt @petrijaervinen @NickSzabo4 If your node is not relaying data to me that I want it makes you an unreliable peer. Has nothing to do with censorship it has to do with optimizing my node. I don't care if you filter but I will remind you it doesn't work and had drawbacks"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980193361136111641)  2025-10-20T08:44Z [----] followers, [----] engagements


"@kwsantiago @DoctorBuzz1 @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Changing one number with a text editor in the config file such deterrence"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980272429013622816)  2025-10-20T13:58Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Arthur_van_Pelt By default knots doesn't relay whirlpool coordination txs or paynym setup txs. Are those spam too Not interested in peering with your handicap node"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980274261467283688)  2025-10-20T14:05Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@HomoBitcoinicus @GoldLeader89 @reardencode @OwenKemeys @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 The predictions have worked great for the entire time I've used Bitcoin. Someone even did some tests showing that knots nodes do not estimate fees as well. It's pretty obvious why"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980275189587018032)  2025-10-20T14:09Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@kwsantiago @DoctorBuzz1 @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Knots changed their default to filter paynyms and whirlpool coordination txs. Why aren't you up in arms over that"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980281137521107244)  2025-10-20T14:33Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@timoncc @simulxxx @notgrubles Its not easier and it's more expensive. Your obsession with and desire to control how people use Bitcoin will only lead to madness"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980282674758799607)  2025-10-20T14:39Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@timoncc @simulxxx @notgrubles Im advising you that filtering has been proven ineffective and only hinders your own node. Citrea also doesn't even need to use opreturn"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980285527820808422)  2025-10-20T14:50Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@John77394613 @bc1qlwx89lgacp8 @petrijaervinen Stop crying when people use their money in ways you don't like then"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980287752534183962)  2025-10-20T14:59Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@timoncc @simulxxx @notgrubles Why not Bitcoin isn't secured by people's good graces. Either Bitcoin can handle adversarial usage or it is a failure"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980289434814906518)  2025-10-20T15:06Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@BITVOLT @Jethroe111 @bitcoincoreorg You must be getting desperate for engagement to think some misinformed boomer who showed up [--] months ago is good content"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980291250331988469)  2025-10-20T15:13Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@BBaconBitz @NickSzabo4 Your node has arbitrary hex data on it. It doesn't render images. Your node stores and relays txs that are paying for far worse things likely literal trafficking. How are you gonna stop that Should we KYC every tx I know it's hard to accept but this is the reality of Bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980292799603052987)  2025-10-20T15:19Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@heavilyarmedc This was before his [---] bitcoin wallet was stolen now he has to grift people into knots/ocean to try and make it back"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980294549164712305)  2025-10-20T15:26Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@kwsantiago @OwenKemeys @DoctorBuzz1 @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Temporary It's still happening. It doesn't matter who participated it's not a democracy. You seem to fundamentally misunderstand why Bitcoin is so secure and robust"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980298865443238228)  2025-10-20T15:43Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@BBaconBitz @NickSzabo4 Trump is a pedo and no different than every other politician. Good luck on your crusade"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980301446261445098)  2025-10-20T15:53Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@kwsantiago @OwenKemeys @DoctorBuzz1 @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Bitcoin is useful because it serves edge cases this is what anti-fragiligy and censorship resistant means. The fact that not many are doing it and its still happening is a feature not a bug. Why does Knots force defaults that filter whirlpool coordination txs and paynyms"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980303209320292423)  2025-10-20T16:00Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@timoncc @simulxxx @notgrubles Demand for blockspace is not harmful to Bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980304259007864844)  2025-10-20T16:05Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@timoncc @simulxxx @notgrubles Its not on the blockchain data is data there is no difference. An adversary can "spam" the network by sending monetary txs to themselves over and over and its effect on-chain is no different than ordinals"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980305098678182297)  2025-10-20T16:08Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@kwsantiago @adam3us @LukeDashjr In a free market if I am buying eggs to make them into art and you are buying eggs to bake cakes. Who is more entitled to the eggs"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980308727678034347)  2025-10-20T16:22Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@kwsantiago @OwenKemeys @DoctorBuzz1 @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Sure but why arent people up in arms about Luke trying to kill Bitcoin privacy because he set a default a certain way like you all are with core"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980309417800450106)  2025-10-20T16:25Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@kwsantiago @OwenKemeys @DoctorBuzz1 @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Its not hardcoded you can change it just like you can change Knots. Please better inform yourself"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980311348035875158)  2025-10-20T16:33Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@JimHODL @BITVOLT @Jethroe111 @bitcoincoreorg Check my bio and github"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980311624830578885)  2025-10-20T16:34Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@_PyBlock_ @mononautical @ValkyrieFunds Sorry to inform you but in a free market things are gonna happen that you dont like and there is nothing you can do about it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980313182699966970)  2025-10-20T16:40Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Its not about the eggs its about the intended use of a commodity. In a free market its doesnt matter what you are using the blockspace for because it belongs to you. You seem to think you have a say in other peoples property"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980313475336556751)  2025-10-20T16:41Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@kwsantiago @OwenKemeys @DoctorBuzz1 @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Well the fight is over because you can configure it. Core is no different than knots both have defaults that people dont like the point is you can still change them. This hysteria that Bitcoin will die needs to end though"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980314568154038520)  2025-10-20T16:46Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@JimHODL @BITVOLT @Jethroe111 @bitcoincoreorg In this clip Bodine's is just calling Core devs idiots and complaining that they arent doxxed he makes no sound argument. Which is why I called him a uninformed boomer"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980318586276311333)  2025-10-20T17:01Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@_PyBlock_ @mononautical @ValkyrieFunds Umm relay policy is not the same as consensus"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980318668455309522)  2025-10-20T17:02Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@timoncc @simulxxx @notgrubles Good luck on your futile crusade. Because if filtering actually worked it would mean any government can just spin up a bunch of nodes and filter OFAC or coinjoins or whatever they want"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980319662564061384)  2025-10-20T17:06Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@My2Sats_ @LukeDashjr @adam3us @MarkoTarman @GrassFedBitcoin @HomeMiningPod Hope you are aware that by default Knots filters Whirlpool coinjoin coordination txs and paynyms also filters ephemeral anchors which makes LN channels more stable and efficient"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980325371322245461)  2025-10-20T17:28Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 The blockchain isnt your property only your UTXOs are. A 51% attack attempts to rewrite peoples UTXOs which is in fact an attack on our property. Someone using the blockspace they bought for a silly jpeg is not an attack on our property"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980326481634161132)  2025-10-20T17:33Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@_PyBlock_ @mononautical @ValkyrieFunds Consensus is consensus filters are relay policy"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980328224266875164)  2025-10-20T17:40Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@timoncc @simulxxx @notgrubles 99% of nodes filtered sub sat feerates and it did nothing to stop them"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980329857155494367)  2025-10-20T17:46Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@My2Sats_ @LukeDashjr @adam3us @MarkoTarman @GrassFedBitcoin @HomeMiningPod Luke says im lying but has me blocked so here are the receipts. BIP47 paynyms require [--] bytes and Whirlpool Tx0 transsactions require [--] bytes. Knots is set to [--] by default"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980331668255973381)  2025-10-20T17:53Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@_PyBlock_ @mononautical @ValkyrieFunds I speak for myself. Consensus is enforced filters/relay policy cannot be enforced"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980332187762504061)  2025-10-20T17:56Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Not relay transactions only handicaps your node and increases latency in validating blocks that contain the txs your filtered. You arent actually hindering anyone from using Bitcoin by filtering"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980334689455157323)  2025-10-20T18:05Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@hihihi46885110 @NickSzabo4 Filtering is not censorship. We were talking about consensus"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980347516995719358)  2025-10-20T18:56Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@_PyBlock_ @mononautical @ValkyrieFunds @satofishi @LukeDashjr @glozow @citrea_xyz What did I lie about"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980373220743344639)  2025-10-20T20:39Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@ndgo1370 What number does Bitcoin die at"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980686305664332222)  2025-10-21T17:23Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@BitcoinLizard @thedon752 @MajorianBTC Then people will stuff data into Bitcoin using other methods that is even more harmful to the network. Great job you have solved nothing"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980693400136610154)  2025-10-21T17:51Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@StanichChannel @simulxxx @haykeye13 @satellen3 Buddy you do not understand Bitcoin. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980018790856634721s=19 @MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 https://t.co/gJGgXbmFy0 https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980018790856634721s=19 @MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 https://t.co/gJGgXbmFy0"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980710814119260288)  2025-10-21T19:00Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@TheGuySwann Only one side is spreading hysteria and claiming Bitcoin is on the verge of dying resulting in people making death threats against devs"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980800284210409642)  2025-10-22T00:56Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@timoncc @simulxxx @notgrubles Youre saying that Bitcoin can be sybil attacked by spinning up nodes with a specific relay policy. If Bitcoin was this fragile it wouldn't made it to where it is today. You don't understand why the network is robust because if you did you'd have to abandon your filter crusade"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981048627801051517)  2025-10-22T17:22Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@BitcoinMonk21 @digitaljuiceman @simulxxx @lifofifo @mattkratter Yes and what you do with your node has no effect on how other people use Bitcoin. Relay policy effects are local not global. This is why filters didnt work even with 99% coverage"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981050771241390388)  2025-10-22T17:31Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Sr_11ss Dude saying "Bitcoin is literally on the verge of death" is the propaganda. Not someone pointing it out. You are so far gone you dont even realize it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981054227884757065)  2025-10-22T17:45Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Arthur_van_Pelt What does this change The Bitcoin node you run has no impact on how the network operates unless you are running a fork client"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981070893213458884)  2025-10-22T18:51Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@garland_key @NickSzabo4 How does one sacrifice permissionless censorship resistance to small degree without sacrificing all of it I am curious of how that is possible"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981073244326420965)  2025-10-22T19:00Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Bill_Fowler_ @adam3us @NickSzabo4 Its wild that so many people are so mislead about how Bitcoin actually works. Over the summer we had 99% of nodes filtering sub sat feerate txs and yet over [--] million were propagated and confirmed because less than 1% of the nodes relayed them. You dont understand Bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981075263590191164)  2025-10-22T19:08Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@garland_key @NickSzabo4 Correct but that's only because of the inherent risk of a 51% attack. Not because we create some guidelines on which txs get to be permissionless and censorship resistant"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981081358094217501)  2025-10-22T19:32Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@garland_key @NickSzabo4 If there was economic incentive to send and mine [--] fee txs the filters would be byspassed. Just like over the summer when there was economic reason to send [---] s/vb txs the filters were bypassed. Bitcoin is regulated by consensus and economic incentives not relay policy"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981093792259416381)  2025-10-22T20:22Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Badbitcoinorg Works great for permissioned systems Bitcoin is however permissionless"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981115649306087719)  2025-10-22T21:49Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@garland_key @NickSzabo4 Relay policy isn't consensus"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981115882203206124)  2025-10-22T21:50Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@dredgmo @_Checkmatey_ Sell your Bitcoin now then you complaining about how other people use a permissionless network isn't gonna change anything"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981116435763253607)  2025-10-22T21:52Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@MajorianBTC Your relay policy doesn't effect how other people use Bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981123945211580521)  2025-10-22T22:22Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@MBronens @adam3us Nothing new has been made possible on Bitcoin that wasn't already possible"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981124391846236220)  2025-10-22T22:23Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@garland_key @NickSzabo4 So then why do you think I'm contradicting myself about consensus"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981126878393225334)  2025-10-22T22:33Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Arthur_van_Pelt Running a node is not signal. Like any free market you have to participate in the market to signal anything. In Bitcoin the only signal is as a user buying blockspace or as a miner selling blockspace"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981194603991880113)  2025-10-23T03:02Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@21milinfinity Youre gonna be lonely on your fork even Lukejr thinks ossification is a bad idea"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981197206540648743)  2025-10-23T03:13Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@CatoTheElder17 To ensure that nodes stay accurate and efficient. Its all right here. https://bitcoincore.org/en/2025/06/06/relay-statement/ https://bitcoincore.org/en/2025/06/06/relay-statement/"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981201529647616228)  2025-10-23T03:30Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@ndgo1370 So the government can sybil attack Bitcoin by spinning up a bunch of nodes with relay policy that filters txs they dont like"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981225291319300169)  2025-10-23T05:04Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@SentientFreedom Even with 95% knots nodes you wouldnt accomplish anything. You do not understand how Bitcoin works"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981374517126865094)  2025-10-23T14:57Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@CPepetricio If you are speaking of Gloria she deleted it because of death threats and harassment by a hysterical mob of plebs who have been mislead as to how Bitcoin works"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981379301418393675)  2025-10-23T15:16Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@btcmackc To capture profits. Eventually all miners will have private mempool submissions just like every other free market has a public and private market"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981379552975999243)  2025-10-23T15:17Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@CryptoVincenzio @CatoTheElder17 Relay policy effects are local it certainly does effect your nodes performance. But also doesnt effect global behavior of the network this is a feature not a bug in Bitcoin's design"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981379847445500168)  2025-10-23T15:19Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@CryptoVincenzio The actual data showed otherwise. Even with 99% of the network filtering sub sat feerates no stale blocks happened. Also. relay policy is not signal because its not sybil resistant signal is bidding on blockspace. You have to participate in the market. https://x.com/mononautical/status/1968138301182972400 [----] blocks later here's an update on Sub-1 Sat/vB Summer mining economics: As of height [------] pools have mined a total of [-------] sub-sat transactions across [----] blocks earning an additional [----] BTC in fees for only [----] MvB of otherwise unused blockspace."  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981380308344983848)  2025-10-23T15:20Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@btc__realtor The data says otheriwse. https://x.com/OwenKemeys/status/1981232876847808918 @plk669888 @_Checkmatey_ @dredgmo This graph charts sub sat transactions which had essentially a constant 100% "friction" up until the red vertical line. It looks a lot more like ebbs and flows of demand and when there is demand that demand experiences essentially no friction. https://t.co/y8T2kmIGbW https://x.com/OwenKemeys/status/1981232876847808918 @plk669888 @_Checkmatey_ @dredgmo This graph charts sub sat transactions which had essentially a constant 100% "friction" up until the red vertical line."  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981384229524316491)  2025-10-23T15:36Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@btcmackc Its marketing MARA would rather you pay them than use the P2P network. You can look at MARA blocks and see how many txs were slipstreamed"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981386509141102895)  2025-10-23T15:45Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@CryptoVincenzio [--] million+ sub sat feerate transactions that bypassed filters is fringe"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981387617263616042)  2025-10-23T15:49Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@CryptoVincenzio This is not a democracy its a market. To have a voice you either need to be selling blockspace (miners) or purchase blockspace (user)"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981388010651603225)  2025-10-23T15:51Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@CryptoVincenzio So the government can just spin up a bunch of nodes and decide what Bitcoin is Because this is the security model you are implying"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981388988599717992)  2025-10-23T15:55Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@CryptoVincenzio These evidence here shows us that your relay policy does nothing to "protect" Bitcoin even when 99% of the network are enforcing a filter"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981389303763837138)  2025-10-23T15:56Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


""Bitcoin is designed to operate without permission from any authority. Its value proposition is entirely based on this property.Its security architecture necessarily assumes it is operating without state permission.""  
[X Link](https://x.com/anyuser/status/1981397487740240262)  2025-10-23T16:29Z [----] followers, 11.7K engagements


"@csuwildcat I simplified it a bit. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981397487740240262 "Bitcoin is designed to operate without permission from any authority. Its value proposition is entirely based on this property.Its security architecture necessarily assumes it is operating without state permission." https://t.co/Cgc1atPHOz https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981397487740240262 "Bitcoin is designed to operate without permission from any authority. Its value proposition is entirely based on this property.Its security architecture necessarily assumes it is operating without state permission.""  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981399991311843784)  2025-10-23T16:39Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@rockjsquirrel You agreed to store the blockchain and that is what you will do whether you run Knots or anything else"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981403582126837949)  2025-10-23T16:53Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@rockjsquirrel Have you heard of the blocksize limit It will take another [--] years to fill up a 2TB SSD which now cost less than $100. No consensus was changed relay policy does not alter blockchain growth"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981406295472427079)  2025-10-23T17:04Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@btcmackc MARA is a small miner and they still mine [---] s/vb txs. Yet even with 99% filter coverage the risk never materialized as a stale block. I personally dont think it was ever a risk. Mining standard full blocks vs empty blocks actually poses a greater risk of a stale block"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981407060140183790)  2025-10-23T17:07Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@rockjsquirrel They were important. Relay policy can have drawbacks for nodes locally but not drawbacks globally. Core is keeping its implementation accurate and efficient. They werent forced through either Knots devs have no say in how Bitcoin Core maintains its software"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981408380662272398)  2025-10-23T17:12Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@c477bfef6df4311 @LaurentMT Luke has already stated that he thinks Whirlpool is badly designed and its their fault. He wont change it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981412881322430954)  2025-10-23T17:30Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Optiontradingod I know it's hard to grasp the very basics but I believe in you"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981440788140872092)  2025-10-23T19:21Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@bonniestac82353 @rockjsquirrel Its all just hex data Bitcoin doesn't care it still operates the same way"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981442039914123466)  2025-10-23T19:26Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@DnP_BTC Knots gang are the ones simping for the state"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981442434812039198)  2025-10-23T19:27Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@ndgo1370 @flaming_hodl Its all hex data the blockchain doesn't know the difference. The only people who care are those who want to impose their morals"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981443010241188188)  2025-10-23T19:30Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@caoimhinllc The fact that people are doing things with Bitcoin that you don't like and cannot be stopped reinforces the value proposition"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981443356787093689)  2025-10-23T19:31Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@SameeLiaei Yeah because you cant stop people from putting data on a permissionless database. Economic incentives and limited block size is the only thing that can mitigate it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981444372307796245)  2025-10-23T19:35Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@flaming_hodl @ndgo1370 https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981407562127044949 @ndgo1370 You missed the point. But do you think they state cares about pornography but not mass tax evasion terrorist financing or money laundering That all happens on chain too. The whole point of Bitcoin is that its resists arbitrary authoritative mandates. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981407562127044949 @ndgo1370 You missed the point. But do you think they state cares about pornography but not mass tax evasion terrorist financing or money laundering That all happens on chain too. The whole point of Bitcoin is that"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981447401689972880)  2025-10-23T19:47Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@bonniestac82353 @rockjsquirrel You cant stop people putting data on a monetary database. All you can do is mitigate it and ultimately Bitcoin must be able to resist arbitrary state authority its literally is core value proposition"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981448402316730640)  2025-10-23T19:51Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@flaming_hodl @ndgo1370 Its all arbitrary dictate by the state Bitcoin is designed to resists this. Its security model is rooted in this fact"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981450618943529259)  2025-10-23T20:00Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@kandleott Bitcoin breaking the law is a feature not a bug"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981458465588728192)  2025-10-23T20:31Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@LiliH65289916 Then stop worrying about the state making nodes illegal. Your node also facilitates terrorist financing and money laundering"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981459181145379081)  2025-10-23T20:34Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@LiliH65289916 @Optiontradingod Yes cryptography is part of the reason Bitcoin can resist the state"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981459946555527202)  2025-10-23T20:37Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@jabulanijakes @caoimhinllc Because your local relay policy doesn't influence how I can use Bitcoin. If it did you could attack Bitcoin simply by spinning up a bunch of nodes"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981460262713712813)  2025-10-23T20:38Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@NordrassilRoot Bitcoin is permissionless money people will use it in ways you don't like and you cant do anything to stop it. That's a feature not a bug"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981461395138064411)  2025-10-23T20:43Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@kandleott So propose a fork and see if the market supports it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981463051409952774)  2025-10-23T20:49Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@caoimhinllc Because it reinforces the permissionless censorship resistant nature of Bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981467512920486019)  2025-10-23T21:07Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@caoimhinllc @jabulanijakes Im not aware of any evidence of that happening"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981467646773383389)  2025-10-23T21:07Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@jabulanijakes @mlagace_ @caoimhinllc There is no problem we are just educating people on the reality of how Bitcoin works"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981472363620552915)  2025-10-23T21:26Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@flaming_hodl @ndgo1370 Illegal images are already on Bitcoin"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981472563441389912)  2025-10-23T21:27Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@omg21btc Correct Bitcoin is money but it's also a network and people are free to use their money on the network as they wish. The fact that you don't like it and can't stop it is a feature not a bug"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981473584855077371)  2025-10-23T21:31Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@StackingPlsWait Really Knots people haven't been hysterical for weeks about Bitcoin dying because someone put illegal hex data on it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981473944868966500)  2025-10-23T21:32Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Thecowsmeow1 Why are nodes important"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981477664998437174)  2025-10-23T21:47Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@jabulanijakes @caoimhinllc So you can't prove your claim"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981477787707093100)  2025-10-23T21:48Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Thecowsmeow1 So a government can spin up 20k nodes and change the Bitcoin rules Blocksize limit is what rate limits the blockchain growth"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981480066917028357)  2025-10-23T21:57Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@flaming_hodl @ndgo1370 Bitcoin doesn't care at all about court cases. That's the entire reason it is valuable"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981480291790442664)  2025-10-23T21:58Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@StackingPlsWait You cant influence how Bitcoin works by spinning up nodes. If you could any government could attack Bitcoin just by launching thousands of nodes"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981483009930121378)  2025-10-23T22:08Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@flaming_hodl @ndgo1370 Number go up had everything to do with Bitcoin being permissionless decentralized and censorship resistant"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981483309827051862)  2025-10-23T22:10Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@colbyserpa You completely missed the point read it again. We are talking about the security model"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981483771670184097)  2025-10-23T22:12Z [----] followers, [---] engagements


"@BBaconBitz @colbyserpa It already did with ordinals and they all died off. Free market handles this just fine. We don't need blockspace marxists"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981485761355796762)  2025-10-23T22:19Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@roger__9000 @mattkratter Value is subjective. Welcome to the free market. The fact that people use Bitcoin in ways you don't like and can't do anything about is a feature not a bug"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981489541694574893)  2025-10-23T22:34Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@Optiontradingod Unfortunate you cant have a debate without slandering people. Blocked"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981499370332967099)  2025-10-23T23:13Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@StackingPlsWait Your soft fork wont fix anything I would suggest researching how steganography works"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981499738089546234)  2025-10-23T23:15Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@caoimhinllc Because it demonstrates that people can use Bitcoin in ways other people dont like and they cant do anything about it"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981500493114523884)  2025-10-23T23:18Z [----] followers, [--] engagements


"@StackingPlsWait No because people will just put the data in other places"  
[X Link](https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981501160952647891)  2025-10-23T23:21Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

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aeon posts on X about $8570t, $8267t, bitcoin, money the most. They currently have [-----] followers and [----] posts still getting attention that total [-----] engagements in the last [--] hours.

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Social Influence

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Social topic influence $8570t #74, $8267t #74, bitcoin, money, decentralized, transactions, coinbase, relay #576, has been, blockchain

Top accounts mentioned or mentioned by @oceanmining @nickszabo4 @grassfedbitcoin @lukedashjr @hodlonaut @cguida6 @boomerbtc @adam3us @asanohagold @sameeliaei @reardencode @fa1rplayy @doctorbuzz1 @bitcoinknots @cunyrenaud @dadguy1986 @supertestnet @jimmysong @homobitcoinicus @cipherhoodlum

Top assets mentioned Bitcoin (BTC) Coinbase Global Inc. (COIN) Monero (XMR) Bitvolt (VOLT) XRP (XRP) eCash (XEC)

Top Social Posts

Top posts by engagements in the last [--] hours

"@4moonsettler @evoskuil @stonelittletzon If that is the case what is the argument against a PoW/PoS hybrid consensus like decred"
X Link 2022-04-05T21:17Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@P________L @evoskuil @4moonsettler @stonelittletzon The question is can a majority stake holder reject a valid PoW block simply because they have majority stake"
X Link 2022-04-06T04:22Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@P________L @evoskuil @4moonsettler @stonelittletzon So the fallacy is correct in that PoW isnt offering any addition security since a majority PoS can invalidate valid blocks"
X Link 2022-04-06T04:33Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@TTrevethan @gladstein What happens if the UTXO is worth less than the current fee rate From what I read the nlocktime carries over to the previous owner allowing them to potentially claim the funds"
X Link 2023-09-06T19:58Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@TTrevethan @gladstein Also who is running the enclave https://github.com/commerceblock/mercurylayer/tree/main/enclave https://github.com/commerceblock/mercurylayer/tree/main/enclave"
X Link 2023-09-06T20:05Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@leo_haf Who gets to decide how fast and how soon the UTXO set is allowed to grow"
X Link 2024-04-02T18:19Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@WalkerAmerica Pi The Fountain Blueberry Waking Life Altered States Primer The Thirteenth Floor"
X Link 2025-02-16T04:24Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"The definition of permissionless isn't a willingness to be permissive its the inability to restrict participation"
X Link 2025-02-20T19:05Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@hmichellerose For example you can only withdraw from coinbase to a 2of2 multisig which coinbase is party to. If you want to spend your BTC from there you send a partially signed tx to coinbase they run it against their database of white/black lists and verify if they will sign it or not"
X Link 2025-02-25T18:44Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@feline_toshi @LukeDashjr @Public_Pool_BTC @trendkraft Luke is projecting because Ocean itself is also centralized he and his team disparage competition and mislead people because they want the hashrate to join their pool and rake in more pool operator fees. Make no mistake Ocean does nothing to decentralize mining"
X Link 2025-04-16T19:22Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@supermassbtc @_DavidSFreeman For some people its crucial that their txs get in the next block especially for L2 settlements. Which is why they need a complete view of the mempool. Many people want reliable peers who will not withhold certain txs from my node based on their subjective belief of value"
X Link 2025-06-26T18:18Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@supermassbtc @_DavidSFreeman You cant filters inherently distort your mempool and are ultimately futile because your node is eventually gonna have to request the tx to validate it when it ends up in a block. Blockspace is a free market and people are free to spend their money on it how they choose"
X Link 2025-06-26T18:44Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@d0mesticblend @econoalchemist Who owns and operates the Ocean pool servers What's the server URL your DATUM gateway connects to"
X Link 2025-09-06T22:54Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@timoncc @GregTonoski When your node filters txs that end up in a block your node has to take time and resources to go out and re-request those txs from other nodes before it can validate the block. Whoever told you it saves resources lied to you"
X Link 2025-09-25T02:44Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@_DavidSFreeman @boomer_btc Yeah not sure what makes people think that more decentralized mining would equate to miners leaving more fees on the table. More decentralized mining would mean more desire for profit especially as subsidy decreases. Unknown miners already mine blocks full of sub sat fees"
X Link 2025-10-02T16:19Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@1btc1bitcoin @john_giovanni_ @ConradHart12 @jimmysong Fees will have to prop up miners at some point anyway. Just because miners are still being subsidized doesn't mean they are gonna leave money on the table. You act like $193 per block is nothing but for a pool like foundry or antpool that's an extra $57000 a week"
X Link 2025-10-08T03:12Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@NickSzabo4 Are you aware that knots bricks itself after [--] years and rejects valid blocks as a forced update feature Why are you suggesting Bitcoin implementations with serious security consequences for users"
X Link 2025-10-08T15:26Z [----] followers, [----] engagements

"@BitcoinBombadil Only way to cooperate is with consensus. Relay policy is not enforceable and can be easily bypassed. Propose a soft fork if you want to cooperate"
X Link 2025-10-13T23:38Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@ocean_lawyer @GoldLeader89 @Ocean @LukeDashjr Ocean administers payouts to miners Ocean controls the coinbase tx that all miners adhere to when mining in the pool. Therefore Ocean does have unilateral power to restrict payouts to certain addresses. This is all documented in Ocean docs and Datum code. Stop misleading people"
X Link 2025-10-17T20:39Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@w_s_bitcoin @BullBitcoin_ @AquaBitcoin Another one that just came on the scene is @LayerZWallet"
X Link 2025-10-18T17:55Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@btc__realtor @stephanlivera Permissionless money doesn't care about your principles"
X Link 2025-10-19T16:19Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@taters_bitcoin Sorry to inform you but is Szabo who is full of it. The guy has no real arguments. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1978603580757307421 @bramk Nick lost the plot. Turned into a blockspace marxist like so many others trying to dictate what is or is not value. Value is subjective remember https://t.co/G7Wsr3c5Ne https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1978603580757307421 @bramk Nick lost the plot. Turned into a blockspace marxist like so many others trying to dictate what is or is not value. Value is subjective remember https://t.co/G7Wsr3c5Ne"
X Link 2025-10-19T16:58Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@ocean_lawyer @NickSzabo4 What new code No new code is being added relay policy can be changed. How come you aren't writing diatribes about Knots by default filtering Whirlpool Tx0 transactions for coordinating coinjoins You mislead people about Ocean pool and now you mislead about this shame"
X Link 2025-10-19T17:04Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"For all those who are praising @NickSzabo4 do you agree with this statement by him https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1978512043016687972 @ndgo1370 @NickSzabo4 Either Bitcoin is permissionless and censorship resistant or its not. There is no middle ground. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1978512043016687972 @ndgo1370 @NickSzabo4 Either Bitcoin is permissionless and censorship resistant or its not. There is no middle ground"
X Link 2025-10-19T17:10Z [----] followers, [----] engagements

"@timoncc @NickSzabo4 Im talking about Bitcoin consensus not relay policy. Relay policy is locally enforced on your node only and has nothing to do with how the network functions as a whole. Even with 99% of the network filtering it can still be bypassed see Sub Sat summer for proof of this"
X Link 2025-10-19T17:21Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@monerean @NickSzabo4 These metaphors are nonsense. A burglar aims to steal from me someone purchasing blockspace with their own money for their use has no negative effect on me. They are using Bitcoin as it was designed and inevitably how it is secured"
X Link 2025-10-19T18:08Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@monerean @NickSzabo4 Yeah this is exactly why we have a blocksize limit. It has nothing to do with filtering which has already been proven ineffective. Economic incentives dictate network behavior not your local relay policy. These arguments are just silly"
X Link 2025-10-19T18:14Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@monerean @NickSzabo4 Where am I telling people not to filter What I do is educate people on the drawbacks. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1954600684504137835 @AdamSimecka Are you familiar with the tradeoffs https://t.co/L0shqbxfDV https://t.co/YyIekRfnkb https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1954600684504137835 @AdamSimecka Are you familiar with the tradeoffs https://t.co/L0shqbxfDV https://t.co/YyIekRfnkb"
X Link 2025-10-19T18:17Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@JWWeatherman_ Dude this vulnerability was pointed out years ago. The docs tell people specifically not to use this function to generate seeds. Stop blaming libbitcoin for wallet creators being idiots and not understanding what they are implementing. https://github.com/libbitcoin/libbitcoin-explorer/wiki/CVE-2023-39910 https://github.com/libbitcoin/libbitcoin-explorer/wiki/CVE-2023-39910"
X Link 2025-10-19T18:20Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@monerean @NickSzabo4 Opreturn limit is not increasing the relay policy default is being changed. Read the relay policy misconception it explains my belief on filters/relay policy. In short they are irrelevant and it has been proven so by things like sub sat summer"
X Link 2025-10-19T18:25Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@eggofghost @ndgo1370 @NickSzabo4 Demand for blockspace is the fundamental security mechanism for Bitcoin as subsidy continues to decrease every [--] years"
X Link 2025-10-19T18:32Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@timoncc @NickSzabo4 If he read the thread he should of understood. He is the one that jumped in and didnt elaborate on anything when I asked him"
X Link 2025-10-19T18:36Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 What makes you think that filters do anything Are you aware that over the summer that 99% of the network was filtering sub sat feerate transactions and yet over [--] million were propagated and mined"
X Link 2025-10-19T18:39Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@timoncc @NickSzabo4 Correct relay policy has nothing to do with censorship resistance or the permissionless nature of Bitcoin. But that is not what thread was about that Szabo commented on. I asked him to clarify himself and he didnt"
X Link 2025-10-19T18:50Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Value is subjective. Are people free to spend their bitcoin on blockspace as they see fit Or should there be an authority that dictates what blockspace should or shouldnt be used for One is a free market and the other is marxism you cant have both"
X Link 2025-10-19T18:52Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1973536590632018257 @DoctorBuzz1 @NickSzabo4 @SameeLiaei Have you heard of steganography Arbitrary data can be hidden in endless places. I know you guys don't like hearing this but you need to accept it for your own sanity. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1973536590632018257 @DoctorBuzz1 @NickSzabo4 @SameeLiaei Have you heard of steganography Arbitrary data can be hidden in endless places. I know you guys don't like hearing this but you need to accept it for your own sanity"
X Link 2025-10-19T18:57Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 Regulations are arbitrary the state can make running a node illegal because you relay terrorist financing transactions. If you think the security of Bitcoin comes from appeasing the state you are fundamentally misinformed about what Bitcoin is and how it is secured"
X Link 2025-10-19T19:11Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Pakkaustukku @ProofOfCash @bramk https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979985733839651306 @Pakkaustukku @ProofOfCash @bramk Who allowed the [--] million+ sub sat feerate transactions to get mined even with 99% of the network filtering them Your framing is flawed you have this false idea that filters work they dont and it has been proven so. The evidence is on-chain for you to see. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1979985733839651306 @Pakkaustukku @ProofOfCash @bramk Who allowed the [--] million+ sub sat feerate transactions to get mined even with 99% of the network filtering them Your framing is flawed you"
X Link 2025-10-19T19:12Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Grinfig @NickSzabo4 So its not permissionless and censorship resistant"
X Link 2025-10-19T19:13Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Pakkaustukku @ProofOfCash @bramk Your relay policy is not a signal Bitcoin is an economically incentivized network. Bidding on blockspace is what signals the network which is why filters immediately fail when economic incentives align"
X Link 2025-10-19T19:17Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 Good luck relying on the state for your security model"
X Link 2025-10-19T19:19Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 Bitcoin isn't AML/KYC compliant you have to opt in to that. Monero is no different"
X Link 2025-10-19T19:29Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@btc__realtor @NickSzabo4 You might want to read and understand this first. Value is subjective and people are free to use their money on a monetary network as they wish"
X Link 2025-10-19T21:15Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@omg21btc @NickSzabo4 Are people free to use their money as they please"
X Link 2025-10-19T21:23Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Thecowsmeow1 @MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 Because miners dont care about your relay policy it doesnt signal anything its a larp. What signals to miners is people bidding on blockspace. Again Bitcoin is an economically incentivized network not some altruistic fever dream where everyone is expected to act morally"
X Link 2025-10-19T21:26Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@DoctorBuzz1 @MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 F2pool doesnt have an option to submit transactions directly to their pool and they were the first pool to begin including sub sat feerate txs. Im sorry to break it to you but Bitcoin is not a fragile network it is robust and will route around any attempts to encumber txs"
X Link 2025-10-19T21:28Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 Whirlpool can break attempts to track Bitcoin. Monero still has on/off ramps as well its on major exchanges like Kraken and Bitfinex"
X Link 2025-10-19T21:37Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@ploughman_btc @NickSzabo4 https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980021914543493542 @deepchess_ @NickSzabo4 Who gets to decide which transactions are permissionless and censorship resistant then https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980021914543493542 @deepchess_ @NickSzabo4 Who gets to decide which transactions are permissionless and censorship resistant then"
X Link 2025-10-19T21:37Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Grinfig @NickSzabo4 Let them print money and hyperinflate their currency. They cant print Bitcoin"
X Link 2025-10-19T21:43Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@omg21btc @NickSzabo4 Who is censoring ASICs"
X Link 2025-10-19T21:43Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@14g23h34 @NickSzabo4 Sub sat feerates were defaulted to [--] s/vb for over a decade and yet they utterly failed when economic incentives aligned against them. So what does that tell you about how useful default relay policy is"
X Link 2025-10-19T21:55Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Buying blockspace is not an abuse it is how Bitcoin is designed. Bitcoin is not hurt by full blocks and high fees. You are applying your own morality to the situation Bitcoin doesnt care about your morals"
X Link 2025-10-19T22:06Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 How is it my philosophy I am describing to you how Bitcoin works. The network relies on demand for blockspace is the fundamental security model. The fact that you dont like how people use the blockspace they purchase with their money is your own problem"
X Link 2025-10-19T22:22Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@14g23h34 @NickSzabo4 Doesn't matter what you believe. Name one thing they were wrong about. The way I see it the marxist worldview are from the people trying to encumber others from accessing the free market of blockspace with filters. Luckily it fails because Bitcoin is incredibly resilient"
X Link 2025-10-19T22:31Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Cipherhoodlum No limits have been changed default policy was changed. But as sub sat summer empirically showed us relay policy is useless"
X Link 2025-10-19T22:35Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Value is subjective this is the economic reality whether you like it or not. It seems you are the one applying objective value to things"
X Link 2025-10-19T22:36Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"Pretending your node has influence over others in the #Bitcoin network is like pretending your opinion has influence over others in a free market. Unless you are participating in the market you are irrelevant. In Bitcoin participating comes from of buying/selling blockspace"
X Link 2025-10-19T22:45Z [----] followers, [----] engagements

"@WillemvanOran18 @NickSzabo4 No consensus decides what happens on your node. But this post is not about filters being censorship I clearly state in other part of this thread that its not. I suggest you read the original thread Szabo commented on"
X Link 2025-10-19T23:50Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @reardencode @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Unfortunately a inherit drawback of ledger money. Gonna have to deal with it unless you want to do some central planning in the blockspace market. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1919797984105230742 Some nuance on the OP_RETURN debate. #Bitcoin is a ledger money (as opposed to coinage money) and ledger money inherently needs a database to function. Bitcoin uses the blockchain as that database and blockspace as a means to rate limit the growth of that database. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1919797984105230742 Some nuance on the"
X Link 2025-10-19T23:54Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@WillemvanOran18 @NickSzabo4 Decentralization comes from Bitcoin's permissionless nature and free market for blockspace. Free market economic incentive drive security not ideology and morals"
X Link 2025-10-20T00:09Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @reardencode @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980042690927706575 Pretending your node has influence over others in the #Bitcoin network is like pretending your opinion has influence over others in a free market. Unless you are participating in the market you are irrelevant. In Bitcoin participating comes from of buying/selling blockspace. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980042690927706575 Pretending your node has influence over others in the #Bitcoin network is like pretending your opinion has influence over others in a free market. Unless you"
X Link 2025-10-20T00:10Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@John77394613 @Cipherhoodlum You guy should propose on then but your soft fork will have spam on it too. I highly suggest you look into steganography arbitrary data can be hidden in endless places. It will be a endless cat and mouse game that destroys permissionless censorship resistance"
X Link 2025-10-20T00:18Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @reardencode @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 So can the government spin up 20k nodes and decide what Bitcoin is"
X Link 2025-10-20T00:24Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@DadGuy1986 @HomoBitcoinicus @NickSzabo4 That doesnt change anything about the security model of Bitcoin. Do you believe that miners will mine at a loss when the subsidy is gone if fees dont pick up"
X Link 2025-10-20T00:32Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@no_rulers_ @NickSzabo4 Bitcoin security is not reliant on relay policy. Relay policy has been violated countless times most notably over the summer when 99% of the network was filtering sub sat feerate txs and millions were still mined"
X Link 2025-10-20T00:40Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @reardencode @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Sure but the way you use your node has no influence on how other people use theirs"
X Link 2025-10-20T00:59Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @reardencode @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Sure nodes are free to change their config as they see fit no one is taking that away. Even Knots has some extreme defaults that filter whirlpool coinjoin coordination txs. But policy doesn't have influence look at sub sat summer as proof. Economic incentives drive behavior"
X Link 2025-10-20T01:14Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 In what context is it correct I asked him to elaborate and he didnt maybe you can"
X Link 2025-10-20T01:22Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 Are people free to use their money as they see fit on a monetary network Perhaps the problem is that you do not agree with how people value things and what they want to spend their bitcoin on"
X Link 2025-10-20T01:37Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 Are you aware that because of steganography you cannot stop people from storing arbitrary data in a database Especially when that database is permissionless"
X Link 2025-10-20T01:46Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 Its a cat and mouse game you can literally hide data in multiple pubkeys are you gonna limit multisigs coinjoins or L2 usage too Eventually you just cripple Bitcoin. Let the blocksize and economic incentives handle it its not a big deal"
X Link 2025-10-20T01:51Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 Then propose a soft fork to fix it. Yelling at people about pointless relay policy isnt gonna do it"
X Link 2025-10-20T02:02Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 Im all for removing the segwit discount. Having a [--] tier market for blockspace is a distortion. I however am not for playing karen and trying to dictate how people use the blockspace they have purchased"
X Link 2025-10-20T02:07Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 Bitcoin ethos is different to everyone what matters is who is bidding on blockspace. You dont get to decide the right way to use blockspace"
X Link 2025-10-20T02:16Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 In a market the only way to decide is by economic action economic action in Bitcoin resides in either selling blockspace as a miner or buying blockspace as a user"
X Link 2025-10-20T02:29Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@kwsantiago @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 So can a government spin up 20k nodes and influence network behavior If so that makes for a very weak security model. The voice of a node comes from participating in the market which means bidding on blockspace not trying to tell other people how to use Bitcoin"
X Link 2025-10-20T02:31Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@kwsantiago @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Eventually you run out of bitcoin paying for blockspace for moronic jpegs. Ask me how much I care if they waist their sats paying miners to secure the network. Glad you realize that 20k nodes "voting" cant change anything though"
X Link 2025-10-20T02:42Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@bitcoin1zation @NickSzabo4 So you agree that Bitcoin isnt censorship resistant and permissionless"
X Link 2025-10-20T02:44Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 Ok how do you prevent it You realize there are endless ways to put arbitrary data in a database right Look into steganography"
X Link 2025-10-20T02:45Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@SteveW928 @NickSzabo4 The mechanism was economic incentive. Blocks were empty so users began offering bids below current market rate this is normal in any free market system. Miners saw these offers and accepted them. Purely organic supply and demand Bitcoin is an economically incentivized system"
X Link 2025-10-20T02:55Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@DadGuy1986 @HomoBitcoinicus @NickSzabo4 High fees and full blocks are not detrimental to Bitcoin its literally how the system was designed"
X Link 2025-10-20T02:56Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@TheBlueMatt Sv2 and DATUM arent decentralized. Both rely on centralized pool servers and operators who can be easily targeted by the state to impose any arbitrary condition they want. You should know this"
X Link 2025-10-20T03:12Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@NickSzabo4 @TG_Destroyer @Excellion @LukeDashjr @zamir591582 @adam3us @satflation @jabulanijakes @BitMEXResearch What happens when the state requires miners to AML/KYC for every transaction they include in a block Its odd that you think Bitcoin's security and value proposition is built off of appeasing the state"
X Link 2025-10-20T03:22Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@petrijaervinen @NickSzabo4 You should read my website it might help you understand where im coming from and how/why Bitcoin resists the state. http://censorshipresistant.com http://censorshipresistant.com"
X Link 2025-10-20T03:29Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@petrijaervinen @NickSzabo4 Value is subjective someone might value keeping their title recorded on the chain. The point is that there is nothing you can do about how people use the blockspace they purchase"
X Link 2025-10-20T03:34Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@HomoBitcoinicus @GoldLeader89 @reardencode @OwenKemeys @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 That fact the Bitcoin is an economically rational system is how you can for the most part predict the next block. Miners who act irrationally because of ideology or state influence will lose market share and miners who prioritize for fee profit will gain market share"
X Link 2025-10-20T03:48Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@HomoBitcoinicus @GoldLeader89 @reardencode @OwenKemeys @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 The highest paying fees are the ones that will have a high likelihood of being in the next block"
X Link 2025-10-20T04:03Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@HomoBitcoinicus @GoldLeader89 @reardencode @OwenKemeys @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Predicting feerates is big part of all that especially if you are running a LN node. If you are running heavy filters you may not know the current market rate for blockspace"
X Link 2025-10-20T04:18Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Arthur_van_Pelt @petrijaervinen @NickSzabo4 Sub sat summer showed that even with 99% of the network filtering you still can't prevent willing buyers from accessing blockspace. Bitcoin is more resistant to censorship than any of us realized"
X Link 2025-10-20T08:04Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Arthur_van_Pelt @petrijaervinen @NickSzabo4 If your node is not relaying data to me that I want it makes you an unreliable peer. Has nothing to do with censorship it has to do with optimizing my node. I don't care if you filter but I will remind you it doesn't work and had drawbacks"
X Link 2025-10-20T08:44Z [----] followers, [----] engagements

"@kwsantiago @DoctorBuzz1 @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Changing one number with a text editor in the config file such deterrence"
X Link 2025-10-20T13:58Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Arthur_van_Pelt By default knots doesn't relay whirlpool coordination txs or paynym setup txs. Are those spam too Not interested in peering with your handicap node"
X Link 2025-10-20T14:05Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@HomoBitcoinicus @GoldLeader89 @reardencode @OwenKemeys @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 The predictions have worked great for the entire time I've used Bitcoin. Someone even did some tests showing that knots nodes do not estimate fees as well. It's pretty obvious why"
X Link 2025-10-20T14:09Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@kwsantiago @DoctorBuzz1 @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @OwenKemeys @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Knots changed their default to filter paynyms and whirlpool coordination txs. Why aren't you up in arms over that"
X Link 2025-10-20T14:33Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@timoncc @simulxxx @notgrubles Its not easier and it's more expensive. Your obsession with and desire to control how people use Bitcoin will only lead to madness"
X Link 2025-10-20T14:39Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@timoncc @simulxxx @notgrubles Im advising you that filtering has been proven ineffective and only hinders your own node. Citrea also doesn't even need to use opreturn"
X Link 2025-10-20T14:50Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@John77394613 @bc1qlwx89lgacp8 @petrijaervinen Stop crying when people use their money in ways you don't like then"
X Link 2025-10-20T14:59Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@timoncc @simulxxx @notgrubles Why not Bitcoin isn't secured by people's good graces. Either Bitcoin can handle adversarial usage or it is a failure"
X Link 2025-10-20T15:06Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@BITVOLT @Jethroe111 @bitcoincoreorg You must be getting desperate for engagement to think some misinformed boomer who showed up [--] months ago is good content"
X Link 2025-10-20T15:13Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@BBaconBitz @NickSzabo4 Your node has arbitrary hex data on it. It doesn't render images. Your node stores and relays txs that are paying for far worse things likely literal trafficking. How are you gonna stop that Should we KYC every tx I know it's hard to accept but this is the reality of Bitcoin"
X Link 2025-10-20T15:19Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@heavilyarmedc This was before his [---] bitcoin wallet was stolen now he has to grift people into knots/ocean to try and make it back"
X Link 2025-10-20T15:26Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@kwsantiago @OwenKemeys @DoctorBuzz1 @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Temporary It's still happening. It doesn't matter who participated it's not a democracy. You seem to fundamentally misunderstand why Bitcoin is so secure and robust"
X Link 2025-10-20T15:43Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@BBaconBitz @NickSzabo4 Trump is a pedo and no different than every other politician. Good luck on your crusade"
X Link 2025-10-20T15:53Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@kwsantiago @OwenKemeys @DoctorBuzz1 @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Bitcoin is useful because it serves edge cases this is what anti-fragiligy and censorship resistant means. The fact that not many are doing it and its still happening is a feature not a bug. Why does Knots force defaults that filter whirlpool coordination txs and paynyms"
X Link 2025-10-20T16:00Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@timoncc @simulxxx @notgrubles Demand for blockspace is not harmful to Bitcoin"
X Link 2025-10-20T16:05Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@timoncc @simulxxx @notgrubles Its not on the blockchain data is data there is no difference. An adversary can "spam" the network by sending monetary txs to themselves over and over and its effect on-chain is no different than ordinals"
X Link 2025-10-20T16:08Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@kwsantiago @adam3us @LukeDashjr In a free market if I am buying eggs to make them into art and you are buying eggs to bake cakes. Who is more entitled to the eggs"
X Link 2025-10-20T16:22Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@kwsantiago @OwenKemeys @DoctorBuzz1 @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Sure but why arent people up in arms about Luke trying to kill Bitcoin privacy because he set a default a certain way like you all are with core"
X Link 2025-10-20T16:25Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@kwsantiago @OwenKemeys @DoctorBuzz1 @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Its not hardcoded you can change it just like you can change Knots. Please better inform yourself"
X Link 2025-10-20T16:33Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@JimHODL @BITVOLT @Jethroe111 @bitcoincoreorg Check my bio and github"
X Link 2025-10-20T16:34Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@PyBlock @mononautical @ValkyrieFunds Sorry to inform you but in a free market things are gonna happen that you dont like and there is nothing you can do about it"
X Link 2025-10-20T16:40Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Its not about the eggs its about the intended use of a commodity. In a free market its doesnt matter what you are using the blockspace for because it belongs to you. You seem to think you have a say in other peoples property"
X Link 2025-10-20T16:41Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@kwsantiago @OwenKemeys @DoctorBuzz1 @reardencode @HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Well the fight is over because you can configure it. Core is no different than knots both have defaults that people dont like the point is you can still change them. This hysteria that Bitcoin will die needs to end though"
X Link 2025-10-20T16:46Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@JimHODL @BITVOLT @Jethroe111 @bitcoincoreorg In this clip Bodine's is just calling Core devs idiots and complaining that they arent doxxed he makes no sound argument. Which is why I called him a uninformed boomer"
X Link 2025-10-20T17:01Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@PyBlock @mononautical @ValkyrieFunds Umm relay policy is not the same as consensus"
X Link 2025-10-20T17:02Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@timoncc @simulxxx @notgrubles Good luck on your futile crusade. Because if filtering actually worked it would mean any government can just spin up a bunch of nodes and filter OFAC or coinjoins or whatever they want"
X Link 2025-10-20T17:06Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@My2Sats_ @LukeDashjr @adam3us @MarkoTarman @GrassFedBitcoin @HomeMiningPod Hope you are aware that by default Knots filters Whirlpool coinjoin coordination txs and paynyms also filters ephemeral anchors which makes LN channels more stable and efficient"
X Link 2025-10-20T17:28Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 The blockchain isnt your property only your UTXOs are. A 51% attack attempts to rewrite peoples UTXOs which is in fact an attack on our property. Someone using the blockspace they bought for a silly jpeg is not an attack on our property"
X Link 2025-10-20T17:33Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@PyBlock @mononautical @ValkyrieFunds Consensus is consensus filters are relay policy"
X Link 2025-10-20T17:40Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@timoncc @simulxxx @notgrubles 99% of nodes filtered sub sat feerates and it did nothing to stop them"
X Link 2025-10-20T17:46Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@My2Sats_ @LukeDashjr @adam3us @MarkoTarman @GrassFedBitcoin @HomeMiningPod Luke says im lying but has me blocked so here are the receipts. BIP47 paynyms require [--] bytes and Whirlpool Tx0 transsactions require [--] bytes. Knots is set to [--] by default"
X Link 2025-10-20T17:53Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@PyBlock @mononautical @ValkyrieFunds I speak for myself. Consensus is enforced filters/relay policy cannot be enforced"
X Link 2025-10-20T17:56Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@HomoBitcoinicus @DadGuy1986 @NickSzabo4 Not relay transactions only handicaps your node and increases latency in validating blocks that contain the txs your filtered. You arent actually hindering anyone from using Bitcoin by filtering"
X Link 2025-10-20T18:05Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@hihihi46885110 @NickSzabo4 Filtering is not censorship. We were talking about consensus"
X Link 2025-10-20T18:56Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@PyBlock @mononautical @ValkyrieFunds @satofishi @LukeDashjr @glozow @citrea_xyz What did I lie about"
X Link 2025-10-20T20:39Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@ndgo1370 What number does Bitcoin die at"
X Link 2025-10-21T17:23Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@BitcoinLizard @thedon752 @MajorianBTC Then people will stuff data into Bitcoin using other methods that is even more harmful to the network. Great job you have solved nothing"
X Link 2025-10-21T17:51Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@StanichChannel @simulxxx @haykeye13 @satellen3 Buddy you do not understand Bitcoin. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980018790856634721s=19 @MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 https://t.co/gJGgXbmFy0 https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1980018790856634721s=19 @MalachiRevolts @NickSzabo4 https://t.co/gJGgXbmFy0"
X Link 2025-10-21T19:00Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@TheGuySwann Only one side is spreading hysteria and claiming Bitcoin is on the verge of dying resulting in people making death threats against devs"
X Link 2025-10-22T00:56Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@timoncc @simulxxx @notgrubles Youre saying that Bitcoin can be sybil attacked by spinning up nodes with a specific relay policy. If Bitcoin was this fragile it wouldn't made it to where it is today. You don't understand why the network is robust because if you did you'd have to abandon your filter crusade"
X Link 2025-10-22T17:22Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@BitcoinMonk21 @digitaljuiceman @simulxxx @lifofifo @mattkratter Yes and what you do with your node has no effect on how other people use Bitcoin. Relay policy effects are local not global. This is why filters didnt work even with 99% coverage"
X Link 2025-10-22T17:31Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Sr_11ss Dude saying "Bitcoin is literally on the verge of death" is the propaganda. Not someone pointing it out. You are so far gone you dont even realize it"
X Link 2025-10-22T17:45Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Arthur_van_Pelt What does this change The Bitcoin node you run has no impact on how the network operates unless you are running a fork client"
X Link 2025-10-22T18:51Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@garland_key @NickSzabo4 How does one sacrifice permissionless censorship resistance to small degree without sacrificing all of it I am curious of how that is possible"
X Link 2025-10-22T19:00Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Bill_Fowler_ @adam3us @NickSzabo4 Its wild that so many people are so mislead about how Bitcoin actually works. Over the summer we had 99% of nodes filtering sub sat feerate txs and yet over [--] million were propagated and confirmed because less than 1% of the nodes relayed them. You dont understand Bitcoin"
X Link 2025-10-22T19:08Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@garland_key @NickSzabo4 Correct but that's only because of the inherent risk of a 51% attack. Not because we create some guidelines on which txs get to be permissionless and censorship resistant"
X Link 2025-10-22T19:32Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@garland_key @NickSzabo4 If there was economic incentive to send and mine [--] fee txs the filters would be byspassed. Just like over the summer when there was economic reason to send [---] s/vb txs the filters were bypassed. Bitcoin is regulated by consensus and economic incentives not relay policy"
X Link 2025-10-22T20:22Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Badbitcoinorg Works great for permissioned systems Bitcoin is however permissionless"
X Link 2025-10-22T21:49Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@garland_key @NickSzabo4 Relay policy isn't consensus"
X Link 2025-10-22T21:50Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@dredgmo @Checkmatey Sell your Bitcoin now then you complaining about how other people use a permissionless network isn't gonna change anything"
X Link 2025-10-22T21:52Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@MajorianBTC Your relay policy doesn't effect how other people use Bitcoin"
X Link 2025-10-22T22:22Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@MBronens @adam3us Nothing new has been made possible on Bitcoin that wasn't already possible"
X Link 2025-10-22T22:23Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@garland_key @NickSzabo4 So then why do you think I'm contradicting myself about consensus"
X Link 2025-10-22T22:33Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Arthur_van_Pelt Running a node is not signal. Like any free market you have to participate in the market to signal anything. In Bitcoin the only signal is as a user buying blockspace or as a miner selling blockspace"
X Link 2025-10-23T03:02Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@21milinfinity Youre gonna be lonely on your fork even Lukejr thinks ossification is a bad idea"
X Link 2025-10-23T03:13Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@CatoTheElder17 To ensure that nodes stay accurate and efficient. Its all right here. https://bitcoincore.org/en/2025/06/06/relay-statement/ https://bitcoincore.org/en/2025/06/06/relay-statement/"
X Link 2025-10-23T03:30Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@ndgo1370 So the government can sybil attack Bitcoin by spinning up a bunch of nodes with relay policy that filters txs they dont like"
X Link 2025-10-23T05:04Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@SentientFreedom Even with 95% knots nodes you wouldnt accomplish anything. You do not understand how Bitcoin works"
X Link 2025-10-23T14:57Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@CPepetricio If you are speaking of Gloria she deleted it because of death threats and harassment by a hysterical mob of plebs who have been mislead as to how Bitcoin works"
X Link 2025-10-23T15:16Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@btcmackc To capture profits. Eventually all miners will have private mempool submissions just like every other free market has a public and private market"
X Link 2025-10-23T15:17Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@CryptoVincenzio @CatoTheElder17 Relay policy effects are local it certainly does effect your nodes performance. But also doesnt effect global behavior of the network this is a feature not a bug in Bitcoin's design"
X Link 2025-10-23T15:19Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@CryptoVincenzio The actual data showed otherwise. Even with 99% of the network filtering sub sat feerates no stale blocks happened. Also. relay policy is not signal because its not sybil resistant signal is bidding on blockspace. You have to participate in the market. https://x.com/mononautical/status/1968138301182972400 [----] blocks later here's an update on Sub-1 Sat/vB Summer mining economics: As of height [------] pools have mined a total of [-------] sub-sat transactions across [----] blocks earning an additional [----] BTC in fees for only [----] MvB of otherwise unused blockspace."
X Link 2025-10-23T15:20Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@btc__realtor The data says otheriwse. https://x.com/OwenKemeys/status/1981232876847808918 @plk669888 @Checkmatey @dredgmo This graph charts sub sat transactions which had essentially a constant 100% "friction" up until the red vertical line. It looks a lot more like ebbs and flows of demand and when there is demand that demand experiences essentially no friction. https://t.co/y8T2kmIGbW https://x.com/OwenKemeys/status/1981232876847808918 @plk669888 @Checkmatey @dredgmo This graph charts sub sat transactions which had essentially a constant 100% "friction" up until the red vertical line."
X Link 2025-10-23T15:36Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@btcmackc Its marketing MARA would rather you pay them than use the P2P network. You can look at MARA blocks and see how many txs were slipstreamed"
X Link 2025-10-23T15:45Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@CryptoVincenzio [--] million+ sub sat feerate transactions that bypassed filters is fringe"
X Link 2025-10-23T15:49Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@CryptoVincenzio This is not a democracy its a market. To have a voice you either need to be selling blockspace (miners) or purchase blockspace (user)"
X Link 2025-10-23T15:51Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@CryptoVincenzio So the government can just spin up a bunch of nodes and decide what Bitcoin is Because this is the security model you are implying"
X Link 2025-10-23T15:55Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@CryptoVincenzio These evidence here shows us that your relay policy does nothing to "protect" Bitcoin even when 99% of the network are enforcing a filter"
X Link 2025-10-23T15:56Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

""Bitcoin is designed to operate without permission from any authority. Its value proposition is entirely based on this property.Its security architecture necessarily assumes it is operating without state permission.""
X Link 2025-10-23T16:29Z [----] followers, 11.7K engagements

"@csuwildcat I simplified it a bit. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981397487740240262 "Bitcoin is designed to operate without permission from any authority. Its value proposition is entirely based on this property.Its security architecture necessarily assumes it is operating without state permission." https://t.co/Cgc1atPHOz https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981397487740240262 "Bitcoin is designed to operate without permission from any authority. Its value proposition is entirely based on this property.Its security architecture necessarily assumes it is operating without state permission.""
X Link 2025-10-23T16:39Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@rockjsquirrel You agreed to store the blockchain and that is what you will do whether you run Knots or anything else"
X Link 2025-10-23T16:53Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@rockjsquirrel Have you heard of the blocksize limit It will take another [--] years to fill up a 2TB SSD which now cost less than $100. No consensus was changed relay policy does not alter blockchain growth"
X Link 2025-10-23T17:04Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@btcmackc MARA is a small miner and they still mine [---] s/vb txs. Yet even with 99% filter coverage the risk never materialized as a stale block. I personally dont think it was ever a risk. Mining standard full blocks vs empty blocks actually poses a greater risk of a stale block"
X Link 2025-10-23T17:07Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@rockjsquirrel They were important. Relay policy can have drawbacks for nodes locally but not drawbacks globally. Core is keeping its implementation accurate and efficient. They werent forced through either Knots devs have no say in how Bitcoin Core maintains its software"
X Link 2025-10-23T17:12Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@c477bfef6df4311 @LaurentMT Luke has already stated that he thinks Whirlpool is badly designed and its their fault. He wont change it"
X Link 2025-10-23T17:30Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Optiontradingod I know it's hard to grasp the very basics but I believe in you"
X Link 2025-10-23T19:21Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@bonniestac82353 @rockjsquirrel Its all just hex data Bitcoin doesn't care it still operates the same way"
X Link 2025-10-23T19:26Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@DnP_BTC Knots gang are the ones simping for the state"
X Link 2025-10-23T19:27Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@ndgo1370 @flaming_hodl Its all hex data the blockchain doesn't know the difference. The only people who care are those who want to impose their morals"
X Link 2025-10-23T19:30Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@caoimhinllc The fact that people are doing things with Bitcoin that you don't like and cannot be stopped reinforces the value proposition"
X Link 2025-10-23T19:31Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@SameeLiaei Yeah because you cant stop people from putting data on a permissionless database. Economic incentives and limited block size is the only thing that can mitigate it"
X Link 2025-10-23T19:35Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@flaming_hodl @ndgo1370 https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981407562127044949 @ndgo1370 You missed the point. But do you think they state cares about pornography but not mass tax evasion terrorist financing or money laundering That all happens on chain too. The whole point of Bitcoin is that its resists arbitrary authoritative mandates. https://x.com/aeonBTC/status/1981407562127044949 @ndgo1370 You missed the point. But do you think they state cares about pornography but not mass tax evasion terrorist financing or money laundering That all happens on chain too. The whole point of Bitcoin is that"
X Link 2025-10-23T19:47Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@bonniestac82353 @rockjsquirrel You cant stop people putting data on a monetary database. All you can do is mitigate it and ultimately Bitcoin must be able to resist arbitrary state authority its literally is core value proposition"
X Link 2025-10-23T19:51Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@flaming_hodl @ndgo1370 Its all arbitrary dictate by the state Bitcoin is designed to resists this. Its security model is rooted in this fact"
X Link 2025-10-23T20:00Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@kandleott Bitcoin breaking the law is a feature not a bug"
X Link 2025-10-23T20:31Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@LiliH65289916 Then stop worrying about the state making nodes illegal. Your node also facilitates terrorist financing and money laundering"
X Link 2025-10-23T20:34Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@LiliH65289916 @Optiontradingod Yes cryptography is part of the reason Bitcoin can resist the state"
X Link 2025-10-23T20:37Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@jabulanijakes @caoimhinllc Because your local relay policy doesn't influence how I can use Bitcoin. If it did you could attack Bitcoin simply by spinning up a bunch of nodes"
X Link 2025-10-23T20:38Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@NordrassilRoot Bitcoin is permissionless money people will use it in ways you don't like and you cant do anything to stop it. That's a feature not a bug"
X Link 2025-10-23T20:43Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@kandleott So propose a fork and see if the market supports it"
X Link 2025-10-23T20:49Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@caoimhinllc Because it reinforces the permissionless censorship resistant nature of Bitcoin"
X Link 2025-10-23T21:07Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@caoimhinllc @jabulanijakes Im not aware of any evidence of that happening"
X Link 2025-10-23T21:07Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@jabulanijakes @mlagace_ @caoimhinllc There is no problem we are just educating people on the reality of how Bitcoin works"
X Link 2025-10-23T21:26Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@flaming_hodl @ndgo1370 Illegal images are already on Bitcoin"
X Link 2025-10-23T21:27Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@omg21btc Correct Bitcoin is money but it's also a network and people are free to use their money on the network as they wish. The fact that you don't like it and can't stop it is a feature not a bug"
X Link 2025-10-23T21:31Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@StackingPlsWait Really Knots people haven't been hysterical for weeks about Bitcoin dying because someone put illegal hex data on it"
X Link 2025-10-23T21:32Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Thecowsmeow1 Why are nodes important"
X Link 2025-10-23T21:47Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@jabulanijakes @caoimhinllc So you can't prove your claim"
X Link 2025-10-23T21:48Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Thecowsmeow1 So a government can spin up 20k nodes and change the Bitcoin rules Blocksize limit is what rate limits the blockchain growth"
X Link 2025-10-23T21:57Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@flaming_hodl @ndgo1370 Bitcoin doesn't care at all about court cases. That's the entire reason it is valuable"
X Link 2025-10-23T21:58Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@StackingPlsWait You cant influence how Bitcoin works by spinning up nodes. If you could any government could attack Bitcoin just by launching thousands of nodes"
X Link 2025-10-23T22:08Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@flaming_hodl @ndgo1370 Number go up had everything to do with Bitcoin being permissionless decentralized and censorship resistant"
X Link 2025-10-23T22:10Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@colbyserpa You completely missed the point read it again. We are talking about the security model"
X Link 2025-10-23T22:12Z [----] followers, [---] engagements

"@BBaconBitz @colbyserpa It already did with ordinals and they all died off. Free market handles this just fine. We don't need blockspace marxists"
X Link 2025-10-23T22:19Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@roger__9000 @mattkratter Value is subjective. Welcome to the free market. The fact that people use Bitcoin in ways you don't like and can't do anything about is a feature not a bug"
X Link 2025-10-23T22:34Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@Optiontradingod Unfortunate you cant have a debate without slandering people. Blocked"
X Link 2025-10-23T23:13Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@StackingPlsWait Your soft fork wont fix anything I would suggest researching how steganography works"
X Link 2025-10-23T23:15Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@caoimhinllc Because it demonstrates that people can use Bitcoin in ways other people dont like and they cant do anything about it"
X Link 2025-10-23T23:18Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

"@StackingPlsWait No because people will just put the data in other places"
X Link 2025-10-23T23:21Z [----] followers, [--] engagements

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