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@MeirnonArt Arron JohnsonArron Johnson posts on X about indie, staff, if you, investment the most. They currently have XXX followers and XXX posts still getting attention that total XXX engagements in the last XX hours.
Social category influence finance products gaming
Social topic influence indie #938, staff #1465, if you, investment, $10m, credits, matter, art, safely #1130, relationships
Top accounts mentioned or mentioned by @anhurdynplus @dreamleaf5 @surri01 @blurthurusion @needo62 @deepfates @hackleyhackley @rahll @marcowenjones @mildlettuce @aarantheartist @neilturkewitz @adobe @jadel4w @richimedhurst @julessu @liberty19588390 @smilkyshake @schimelmitz @yeathatsawesome
Top posts by engagements in the last XX hours
"@DreamLeaf5 There's literally plenty to criticize about the game this shit is just cringe. Call out its use of gAI or how it gets accolades (and a literal TGA award) for being "a small indie team" despite having a production staff of over XXX people and not being indie"
X Link 2025-12-12T10:22Z XXX followers, 4683 engagements
"@JepoBuilds @TriforceZard X. He wasn't talking about E33 X. E33 hilarious did in fact use gAI and a more exploitative form than Arc Raiders"
X Link 2025-12-12T14:02Z XXX followers, 10.9K engagements
"@AnhurdynPlus @blurthurusion @surri01 Kepler Ghost doesn't do the same thing as Kepler. Kepler Ghost is a white label publisher that provides specifically just marketing and publishing outsource. The fact that Kepler Ghost exists as a separate service is demonstrable of why Kepler's relationship to E33 isn't Indie"
X Link 2025-12-12T17:51Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@FlareDancer @FleurDePandore Sandfall is an Independent Studio but Expedition XX is not an Indie game. To say that Kepler fronted 10m and didn't retain some stake in the game would be you saying that Kepler is built by idiots and frauds who will be defunct within the year lmao"
X Link 2025-12-12T20:35Z XXX followers, XXX engagements
"@FleurDePandore It's wild that somehow stating the fact that E33 isn't an Indie game and is instead firmly in the AA space because of Sandfall's relationship with Kepler is making all the worst people angry. People want "Indie" to just be vibes and not having it makes them feel attacked"
X Link 2025-12-12T20:39Z XXX followers, XXX engagements
"@hyxkkimxru BG3 isn't an indie game. E33 isn't an indie game. Indie is a category based on an economic and material relationship between the developer and any external parties. E33 was not independently produced - the $10m budget is a proxy that you can use to infer further information"
X Link 2025-12-12T21:40Z XXX followers, 1218 engagements
"@yeathatsawesome @DreamLeaf5 "Outside the traditional publisher system" is meaningless though. What's the traditional publisher system Just not EA/Activision/Ubisoft/etc Because the traditional publisher system has been funding and publishing services in exchange for a stake which describes Kepler/E33"
X Link 2025-12-12T21:41Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@jaaqob2 @yvngazar @revenant_MMXX I'd argue that the line is actually whether an external entity has a stake in the product not whether it has a publisher. Character limit keeps me from giving a full explanation but publishing can be and often is a service. E33 isn't an Indie game for other related reasons"
X Link 2025-12-12T22:38Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@CEOOfShinoa @QueenLolipopo Think of it like how it's a coin flip that if someone says they're a Metal Gear Solid fan that they'll end up being chud who likes the aesthetic and completely missed the anti-war narrative and homoerotic undertones (even though the undertones REALLY spoke to them spiritually)"
X Link 2025-12-12T23:10Z XXX followers, XXX engagements
"@yeathatsawesome @DreamLeaf5 "Not part of the billionaire club" being the criterion is IMO a bad criterion to measure whether someone's Indie. Indie means Independent not just whether or not it's paying for Yves Guillemot's new yacht. And E33 isn't an Independently produced game. Kepler has a stake in it"
X Link 2025-12-13T00:43Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@TheDavidVinc "Indie Team" It's a traditional publishing structure that not even a decade ago would have been considered AAA with the budget and staff size to match from industry vets Why do people need to mythologize it as Indie when just calling it AA doesn't diminish it's accomplishments"
X Link 2025-12-13T00:53Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@_Deez_Games @TheDavidVinc And here you are ignoring that the budget itself isn't the issue but the relationship to a publisher that provides the funding. Wild"
X Link 2025-12-13T02:29Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@Ya_Ya_69000 @DreamLeaf5 You should in fact include all professional roles. Ergo XXX people over XXX roles. And if you actually read the page you'd know that those nonprofessional roles like pets and babies you'd instead have XXX credits. You absolute illiterate dumbass"
X Link 2025-12-12T12:09Z XXX followers, XXX engagements
"@simj221 @DreamLeaf5 Being capable of giving millions in funding and managing support staff for thousands of people only makes you small in comparison to the likes of EA. They are objectively not a small company. I've got a bridge to sell you if you think the one thing that slipped through was all"
X Link 2025-12-12T12:11Z XXX followers, XXX engagements
"@Ya_Ya_69000 @simj221 @DreamLeaf5 Indie is not a statement of the size of the team or the amount of money involved. It's a categorization based on the relationship to an outside company typically a publisher. Kepler funding them for millions and managing them precludes them from being indie. Grow a brain"
X Link 2025-12-12T12:26Z XXX followers, XXX engagements
"@Ya_Ya_69000 @simj221 @DreamLeaf5 It actually does matter for the industry. You being completely detached from and therefor aloof to why it matters doesn't make you better it just makes you a dumbass who's inserting your irrelevant opinion and malinformed ideas where they don't belong. Get lost"
X Link 2025-12-12T12:52Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@blurthurusion @surri01 It had a staff of over XXX people not XX. Funding and team size notwithstanding it also was funded and managed by an external publisher which specifically is what disqualifies it from being "indie". It's a AA game not an indie. Call it what it is"
X Link 2025-12-12T14:06Z XXX followers, XXX engagements
"@kayjune_ @R__B__K__ @surri01 It was XXX people among XXX professional roles. And what specifically disqualifies them from being "indie" is that they were funded and managed by an external publisher"
X Link 2025-12-12T14:09Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@MobiusMr @surri01 It's not an indie game by the original definition of indie. The size of the publisher doesn't matter - the relationship does. There is no arbitrary metric by which a publisher becomes "big" and thus no longer "indie". They were funded and managed by Kepler. They aren't indie"
X Link 2025-12-12T14:12Z XXX followers, XXX engagements
"@kazakh_mage @Chettlar @atuhru It's not about whether it has a publisher or not it's about their relationship to the publisher that determines if they're Independent or not. Sandfall received millions in funding and was managed by Kepler. It's not an indie game"
X Link 2025-12-12T14:27Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@i_Sapphired @kazakh_mage @atuhru Team size was XXX. Specifically what made it AA and not Indie was their particular relationship to Kepler including funding staffing and management. Their production was not independent from Kepler so they aren't "indie""
X Link 2025-12-12T14:29Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"A lot of people seem to think "indie" is determined by the amount of funds staff size or size of the publisher. What determines "indie" in any meaningful way is the relationship between dev and an external company usually the publisher. E33 was not indie in way that matters"
X Link 2025-12-12T14:33Z XXX followers, XXX engagements
"It's pretty telling that the only people who try to defend E33 winning "best indie" are people whose only guiding value is a contempt for indies as a concept. It's not simply that they don't care about the dilution of the label it's their entire goal to "steal the frisbee""
X Link 2025-12-12T14:40Z XXX followers, XXX engagements
"@El_Omar2203 E33 winning "best art direction" and it's full of megascans and even marketplace assets is such a joke"
X Link 2025-12-12T14:47Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@spiderman20777 @JustAJohnDoe_ @JepoBuilds @TriforceZard Considering they quietly replaced the very midjourney asset shortly after this was discovered and correctly labelled as gAI by people who know what gAI looks like I think we can safely say it was in fact gAI. Chud"
X Link 2025-12-12T14:58Z XXX followers, 1024 engagements
"@DreamLeaf5 GOTY is purely a marketing term and not an actual category so it's w/e. Winning Best Art Direction is questionable because of its reliance on megascan and market assets but not entirely without merit. Winning Best Indie is absolutely infuriating though. It's not an indie game"
X Link 2025-12-12T15:41Z XXX followers, 2077 engagements
"@AnhurdynPlus @blurthurusion @surri01 I'm not sure I'd actually consider Sifu or Rematch to actually be Indies because I don't know enough about their funding and publishing relationships. Not that it matters anyways because it's whataboutism. We do know this info about E33 and it's not Indie. It's AA"
X Link 2025-12-12T17:57Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@AnhurdynPlus @blurthurusion @surri01 Great Show me the game and the details and we can talk about whether it's Indie or not. It's whataboutism right now though so irrelevant. And no the standard of what's Indie or not isn't arbitrary - it's pretty cut dry and widely accepted in the industry"
X Link 2025-12-12T17:59Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@AnhurdynPlus @blurthurusion @surri01 IDK man the discourse seems to pretty consistently be "I don't care what's Indie or not but AAA industry ghouls keep reducing the label down to vibes so that's what I think is fine" Sandfall is an Indie studio. E33 is not an Indie game. It shouldn't have won Best Indie"
X Link 2025-12-12T18:25Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@AnhurdynPlus @blurthurusion @surri01 Except it isn't if you actually understand why Indie as a term exists and also CDPR's own origins"
X Link 2025-12-12T18:32Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@AnhurdynPlus @blurthurusion @surri01 Indie is a label based on economic relationships that exists because of changes in gatekeeping access to player markets and one that became prominent during the Xbox Live marketplace opening itself up to Indies. This economic distinction is still important"
X Link 2025-12-12T18:44Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@AnhurdynPlus @blurthurusion @surri01 Any other definition is: 1) Ahistoric as it ignores why Indies were extraordinary enough to deserve their own label 2) Not workable as it starts applying arbitrarily to some but not others 3) Probably vibes based instead of one based on material conditions"
X Link 2025-12-12T18:46Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@AnhurdynPlus @blurthurusion @surri01 Nope It's a AA game made by an Indie studio via a quid-pro-quo investment by an external publishing company. And I'm not going to be able to argue you out of it because you're deeply attached to the vibe. That's w/e"
X Link 2025-12-12T18:50Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@AnhurdynPlus @blurthurusion @surri01 We don't know the exact terms of the Sandfall-Kepler contract but we can safely assume two things based on simple economics: 1) A 10mil investment does not come without a quid-pro-quo. 2) A 30-person team is not adequate to independently manage the 380-person outsource"
X Link 2025-12-12T19:07Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@yeathatsawesome @DreamLeaf5 I think you're conflating Indie Studio and Indie Game. I'll try to be as respectful to you as possible because it's not intuitive. E33 was made with a 10m investment and development support from Kepler making it not Independently developed. It's not an Indie Game"
X Link 2025-12-12T21:03Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@Chettlar @hyxkkimxru Buddy I'm an indie dev I know how indie games are normally funded. Most indie publishers will offer upfront funding with staged recoup + service fees out of sales with no ongoing stake and the model works because of scale. $10m is a different beast and precludes independence"
X Link 2025-12-12T22:45Z XXX followers, XXX engagements
"@EmperorPylades @PancakeNinja_ @TheDragoonQueen I don't think you understood my definition because that's not true. My definition specifically allows those devs Supergiant and Team Cherry have never made such a QPQ exchange for funds Devolver afaik mostly asks for recoup + fees in exchange for funding and publishing services"
X Link 2025-12-13T12:39Z XXX followers, XX engagements
"@_Deez_Games @TheDavidVinc I don't think I flaunted "wealth" I just said I make my living off of it. The fact that being able to afford rent and food off of my work is considered wealth to you is extremely sad and I hope you'll be able to move out of your parents flat soon"
X Link 2025-12-13T13:01Z XXX followers, X engagements
"@_Deez_Games @TheDavidVinc Flats aren't a thing for bonglanders Could have fooled me. Luckily I'm not in any state that did that and I'm rightfully disgusted by the state governments that do act like fucking ghouls"
X Link 2025-12-13T13:07Z XXX followers, X engagements
"@moemuxhagi @EndymionYT Buddy do you know how to look up a game's credits Hell with the free update yesterday the game now had XXX people They added X more with the one patch alone"
X Link 2025-12-13T18:51Z XXX followers, XX engagements