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@giacomozucco "@peterktodd Are you still convinced Tierion/Chainpoint useless tokens smell like a scam even if they were sold to consenting adults"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-06-13T06:06Z 83.1K followers, 1029 engagements

"Tbf some Core devs successfully DO resolve the paradox: - @murchandamus and others claim filters work well to deter new trends from forming but fail to curb established trends noticeably (nuanced view: no paradox in removing some for future stuff but refusing to fix others ie to stop "inscriptions") - @eric_lombrozo and others claim filters don't work and getting rid of the specific op_return one entirely (as default) was a nothingburger: not really urgent nor important (just as keeping it or fixing others wasn't) - @darosior and (many) others claim filter work (he corrected me explicitly"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T05:46Z 83.1K followers, 20.6K engagements

"@_DavidSFreeman @cguida6 @ProofOfCash @darosior @phyrooo @garland_key @satflation @adam3us @rleder @LukeDashjr @GrassFedBitcoin @Pledditor @murchandamus Uh What does consensus validity have to do with it Most DoS risks that Core policies prevent are perfectly consensus valid"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T17:07Z 83.1K followers, XX engagements

"It kinda does: assuming AWA had any interest in mempool policies at all (they don't and they will not: they are utterly useless for censorship purposes unlike block validity rules) it's obvious that regulating default parameters a single reference implementation is way easier than regulating a diversity of individual choices"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T07:36Z 83.1K followers, XXX engagements

"@_DavidSFreeman @constructdisrup @satflation @adam3us @LukeDashjr Irrelevant to your claim. Your claim is verbatim: "any current core contributor who has spoken about this has stated they want less/none" This is unequivocally FALSE"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-14T18:06Z 83.1K followers, XXX engagements

"This is a very important point by uncle @r0ckstardev. Bitcoin would likely survive CoreV30 being widely adopted and some nasty attackers eventually encoding illegal stuff into large standard op_returns. Bitcoin would likely survive Knots&al taking over Core and the current main maintainers being "fired" (and the same nasty attackers still eventually encoding illegal stuff into large non-standard op_returns anyway). Bitcoin would likely survive ossifying now and never ever getting a new non-bug-fixing soft fork forcing us to use heavily interactive L2s and leaving midwits sleepless over"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-09-10T06:25Z 83.1K followers, 144.9K engagements

"Nope never. Fortran C MATLAB and Mathematica during university years (mostly C). Abap PL-SQL Cobol and Mathematica during Accenture Tech Consulting years (mostly PL-SQL). During the Bitcoin years I played with Python and JS a bit studied some C++ tried to learn Rust (failing). For my own aesthetical kinks I checked out over the years different LISP dialects concatenative toy-languages like Om/Joy/Cat consistent OOP languages like Smalltalk/Self/Io cool array languages like APL/J/K. I was trying to check out Elm last year but I didn't have time. I deeply despise the C-like procedural notation"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-08T05:06Z 83.1K followers, 1237 engagements

"We can still make educated guess based on logic and game theory. My guess is that when in doubt they will always tend go after: - block validity over mempool standardness - Core default over external diverse templates - sophisticated devs of big companies over simple-UX-dependent users"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T08:06Z 83.1K followers, XX engagements

"@phyrooo @garland_key @satflation @cguida6 @adam3us @rleder @_DavidSFreeman @LukeDashjr @GrassFedBitcoin @darosior @Pledditor @murchandamus Nonsense. Why should it be bad Spam mitigation is a cooperative game which can be both user-side and relay-side. You save bandwidth for yourself AND to some other victim"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T15:05Z 83.1K followers, XX engagements

"@darosior @phyrooo @garland_key @satflation @cguida6 @adam3us @rleder @_DavidSFreeman @LukeDashjr @GrassFedBitcoin @Pledditor @murchandamus Interesting I don't see the distinction but I'll ask more tomorrow"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T17:10Z 83.1K followers, XXX engagements

"The intentional use of policy to nudge the network is well documented before Bitcoin Twitter was even a thing: on Github Bitcointak mailing lists IRC chats. I agree that it's incentive-incompatible so there is a rationale to gradually move from that to a new use of policy to just prevent LOCAL DoS and predict blocks"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T14:42Z 83.1K followers, XXX engagements

"@darosior @alpacasw @tonklaus @brian_trollz @murchandamus No he called authoritarian a start9 dev proposing to create a utility for users to fiddle with their own mempool. Crazy"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-05T23:59Z 83.1K followers, 9782 engagements

"@_DavidSFreeman @satflation As long as they are not mutually contradictory logic-wise I'm ok to believe XXX different things. I don't believe Luke is being dishonest and I have no reason to say I do"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-14T14:39Z 83.1K followers, XX engagements

"@adam3us @garland_key @satflation @cguida6 @rleder @_DavidSFreeman @LukeDashjr @GrassFedBitcoin @darosior @Pledditor @murchandamus @csuwildcat They are even slower than mempool-filtering time. I don't see how court speed would make it easier to police transaction standardness (to achieve almost nothing) as opposed to police block validity (to achieve something)"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T08:18Z 83.1K followers, XXX engagements

"Agree Core should have listened to your 160b proposal and Knots should calm down and not turn a minor bug into counterproductive "death of Bitcoin" prophecies and irresponsible law-enforcement minefields. Just to clarify: to curb future spam more effectively than with strong widespread default filters you need a soft-fork.but to elide old spam (like with ZK compression) would be technically a hard fork"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-11T08:17Z 83.1K followers, 1196 engagements

""Privacy coins" have basically no anonymity set and in most cases they are an absolute downgrade to the privacy of users compared to Bitcoin (even onchain let alone on Lightning)"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-13T09:47Z 83.1K followers, 8594 engagements

"that's a soft-fork. hard-fork or re-org with international mining compelled action Well I answered "no" above but reading better: yes I'm talking of the third case you list here: international mining compelled action about block validity. Equally realistic as international mining compelled action about transaction standardness but unlike the latter effective for censorship"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T08:15Z 83.1K followers, XXX engagements

"@_DavidSFreeman @constructdisrup @satflation @adam3us @LukeDashjr She is a current core contributor (arguably the most relevant on the topic) who has spoken very publicly about the topic of Bitcoin spam. She has NOT stated she want less of it or non of it. I repeated: she has NOT"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-14T18:39Z 83.1K followers, XXX engagements

"So I spent much of yesterday calmly discussing with @adam3us. His intern was not invited. We will do a longer-form public discussion (also with @JeffBooth) sometimes soon but here's the provisional TLDR (he can correct me if I'm missing or misrepresenting something): 1) We agree that spam exists and is a well-defined issue that it's a particularly nasty issue for Bitcoin as a global-consensus system (which blockspace fees can't really solve or mitigate much) that it should be denounced/fought as much as possible that it obviously includes NFT scams and such. He agrees relativist mental"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-02T17:06Z 83.1K followers, 71.2K engagements

"@omg21btc @nilskp @JuergenStrobel @adam3us Yes. For your contracts or literally anything else. Like StorJ or MaidSafe or Filecoin without the shitcoin scam"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T15:08Z 83.1K followers, XX engagements

"That is clearly a double standard whether he acknowledges it or not With "double standard" we generally imply "about analogous situations". The distinction among these two scenario is subtle but existing. Not claiming I'm convinced by the take but at least it's not paradoxical. Why would core devs ruin their reputations and drive a fifth of their users to Knots to ram through this extremely controversial change for "a nothingburger" The dev I mentioned is very active in the discussion with me specifically so I felt like mentioning him wasn't really involved in the change (not that some"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T06:33Z 83.1K followers, 1031 engagements

"Yeah maybe human nature changed for the very first time since homo sapiens emerged just for the people working on Bitcoin Core and it's just me and you (as both not Core devs) spending hours to tweet on drama. Or maybe not. To stay on the safe side I think it's better not to bank on the first hypothesis too much"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-17T15:36Z 83.1K followers, XXX engagements

"No data snippets to support applications are not inherently spam. You can post them on Twitter Pastbine Github your own site or any site that will gladly accept them. If you post them abusing the message fields in a "French Cousine" forum then yes they will be spam and forum users will react and you will be an asshole for continuing. Obviously. If you want to go decentralized instead of using centralized servers that's cool and fun: you can post them on Torrent Nostr etc. If you want some cooperative availability incentive you can try Freenet or maybe build some new cooler LN-based standard"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T08:01Z 83.1K followers, 1337 engagements

"GMax said: "None of the core regulars particularly like NFT/shitcoin traffic" Ok I concede this point. Zhao's example doesn't falsify his claim literally. She said talking against NFTs shouldn't have a place in the debate not that she particularly likes them. My bad. I was probably still fired up about the falsification of @_DavidSFreeman's way stronger claim X days ago Greg's was milder. It depends on the structure of the mining industry. If the mining space is highly competitive and decentralised then this long term incentive appraoch to building blocks begins to fall apart. I agree with"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-16T15:02Z 83.1K followers, 1177 engagements

"@satflation @_DavidSFreeman He's talking Ann Frank kinds of situations. Where I actually think lying would be better"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-13T20:41Z 83.1K followers, XXX engagements

"@JuergenStrobel @adam3us I guess we can say some op_code were designed for spam in the sense of "designed to hijack spam so it doesn't go elsewhere" like the converter example. It was not "designed to increase spam" on this I agree"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-10T14:35Z 83.1K followers, XX engagements

"This. Also importantly a working L2 REMOVES data pressure on full nodes and build an off-chain fee pressure that can compete with onchain data at least ceteris paribus. Bitcoin L2s DO MITIGATE spam in general"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T14:13Z 83.1K followers, 2470 engagements

"Also many players involved are "psychopath" in the sense you are using here that is: explicitly trying to hurt Bitcoin users to leverage outrage marketing (consider Taproot Wizards or Stamps people who did conference talks X spaces and YouTube videos celebrating and flexing the intentional damage). And even among the ones who aren't many are shitcoin scammers (ie: Citrea people) so they will use inefficient stuff not just for laziness but also for made-up pseudo-innovation hype like here:"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T07:45Z 83.1K followers, 3462 engagements

"in the end that transaction isn't about you or me. No that's often the case on L2 transactions. On L1 all Bitcoin nodes will have to download and store that forever. That's also one of the reason we should move most of the economy on L2s using global consensus (which is terrible for scalability privacy scarce-resource allocation MEV risks censorship risks etc.) only for big settlements. My node doesn't need to try to control how others use Bitcoin. It can't control it but it does influence it: your current Bitcoin node is enforcing both consensus on blocks and policy on 0conf txs (even"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T15:32Z 83.1K followers, XX engagements

"There is an obvious contradiction in saying that they do nothing AND they also are urgent and important to remove now. There is no contradiction in just one of the two bou can't have it both ways. I'm just pointing out not all devs want to have it both ways. There is a "irrelevant" camp there is a "harmful" camp. There's also a "irrelevant for established trends and harmful for future ones" camp"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T07:39Z 83.1K followers, 1165 engagements

"@LaurentMT @CaminaDrummer4 @adam3us @rleder @_DavidSFreeman @satflation @LukeDashjr @GrassFedBitcoin Can you please stop making sense. I'm tired of retweeting you. Say something nice about Monero"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T14:08Z 83.1K followers, XXX engagements

"@cguida6 @darosior @_DavidSFreeman @ndeet @phyrooo @garland_key @satflation @adam3us @rleder @LukeDashjr @Pledditor Thanks for the pointer to this detailed answer. I've used and helped people to install pruned nodes for ages and never had any problem but in no case I've dealt with serious ecommerce AFAIR so maybe I'm missing something. Reading asap"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-16T16:02Z 83.1K followers, XX engagements

"Agreed. Just saying that even with the latter influence will not come from technical efficiency but from scam-marketing potential. In most cases I'd advice against the path of making development decisions in Core to maximize scam-marketing potential just to nudge scammers. Even if some nudging can be good like sending them to Liquid CA or RGB/TapAss"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T08:03Z 83.1K followers, 1072 engagements

"Try to also break this down as charitably as you can breaking out specific claims. My claims: 1) Is CSAM storage "extreme legal risk" in most jurisdictions worldwide Yes. 2) Is it possible for Bitcoin node runners to get into this risk if the notion that some transactional data can be decoded as media becomes widespread and established Yes. 3) Is this notion being made widespread and established by the "inscription envelope" exploit and by the NFT shitcoin fads with also tools to decode pictures in and similar Yes. 4) Would a stricter stance by Bitcoiners (Core developer included) on the"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-17T07:51Z 83.1K followers, X engagements

"@cguida6 @darosior @_DavidSFreeman @ndeet @phyrooo @garland_key @satflation @adam3us @rleder @LukeDashjr @Pledditor Read now. Can we loop in @start9labs to confirm and deny that proning nodes with CLN&LND still suck at safety and/or UX in the hands of a non-tech user I was under the impression this was an issue on the path towards complete mitigation in recent years"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-16T16:13Z 83.1K followers, XX engagements

"@BitMEXResearch Very disappointing. This man used to be able to put consistent thoughts together. :("
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T19:59Z 83.1K followers, 5612 engagements

""If you don't upgrade now your node will die" FUD is just as retarded and dishonest as "If you ever upgrade Bitcoin will die" FUD. Your v30 Core node will be fine for quite a while and as long as even just a bunch of honest developers exist (and they do exist) they'll backport any relevant security fix for versions preceding unwanted changes that part of the community rejected. You Knots LibreRelay even Btcd and Libbitcoin node will also most likely be fine for quite a while and if they have 0days as long as you don't use them as hot wallets (IMO you shouldn't get specialized tools) or for"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-12T15:50Z 83.1K followers, 14.9K engagements

"@rleder @NickSzabo4 Careful with using logic on a topic subject to moral panic. People will just send you memes of bears and icecream trucks"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T17:40Z 83.1K followers, XX engagements

"No I don't mean block validity as in a successful soft fork. I mean block validity as in forcing miners to just discard unwanted blocks as opposed to just discarding txs. As long as XX% of the hashrate complies it works well enough for temporary censorship. Unlike XX% of the hashrate complying with mempool policies which does nothing relevant for censorship (it may just slow down some txs a bit: possibly relevant for spam rate-mitigation mostly irrelevant for tx censorship)"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-15T08:12Z 83.1K followers, XXX engagements

"@Kev_nRobbins No Bitcoin doesn't have accounts. You can only maybe assume common owner heuristic (but you would be wrong due to payjoin). With lightning even more so. Anonymity set is higher"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-13T17:30Z 83.1K followers, XX engagements

"@cguida6 @darosior @_DavidSFreeman @ndeet @phyrooo @garland_key @satflation @adam3us @rleder @LukeDashjr @Pledditor How so"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-16T15:23Z 83.1K followers, XX engagements

"I doesn't seem you understand relativity at all. Unless all modern physics is surprisingly wrong here's literally no local experiment that can distinguish free fall from stasis or a geocentric ontology from an heliocentric one. It's just a matter of convenience and/or metaphysics (convenience is usually on the geocentric case for most astrophysics and orbital applications heliocentrism is good for solar-system-probes; metaphysics is another interesting rabbit hole)"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-13T07:50Z 83.1K followers, XX engagements

"Good point. It's not a reduction in people-company count mostly a change in tolerance for dissenting voices. Also by some of the people you mentioned (ie: not only a people turnover also an "attitude turnover" within the very same people). All perfectly human and understandable nothing special required in terms of malice. Human institutions are like this"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-17T08:59Z 83.1K followers, XX engagements

"Try to also break this down as charitably as you can separating specific claims. My claims: 1) Is CSAM storage "extreme legal risk" in most jurisdictions worldwide Yes. 2) Is it possible for Bitcoin node runners to get into this risk if the notion that some transactional data can be decoded as media becomes widespread and established Yes. 3) Is this notion being made widespread and established by the "inscription envelope" exploit and by the NFT shitcoin fads with also tools to decode pictures in and similar Yes. 4) Would a stricter stance by Bitcoiners (Core developer included) on the above"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-17T07:54Z 83.1K followers, XX engagements

"In XX years almost nobody will even remember Solana Ether Binance-coin Trump-coin or Hawktuah-coin just like almost nobody today remembers Peercoin Novacoin Terracoin Devcoin"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-01-19T21:05Z 83.1K followers, 268.5K engagements

"Many things compounded over the years. Many different topics: 1) consolidation of influence in a tight small "inner circle" in Core with decrease in tolerance for dissenting voice 2) emergence of all the contradictions in Core's inconsistent direction about mempool policy (inevitable hard problem nobody's fault at this point hard to fix in any case) 3) absolute sloppiness in management of the above especially in user-relation management and repo management terms by the "inner circle" (cf 1) 4) internal cultural war with shitcoiners increase of tolerance for them in the "inner circle" (cf 1)"
X Link @giacomozucco 2025-10-17T08:40Z 83.1K followers, 1826 engagements