@hodlonaut hodlonaut

hodlonaut posts on X about core, bitcoin, money, spam the most. They currently have [-------] followers and [---] posts still getting attention that total [------] engagements in the last [--] hours.

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Social Influence

Social category influence cryptocurrencies #699 finance 10.34% celebrities 2.3% automotive brands #4917 countries 1.15% social networks 0.57% technology brands 0.57% travel destinations 0.57%

Social topic influence core #477, bitcoin #310, money #3133, spam #324, this is 4.02%, red 2.87%, in the 2.87%, what is #752, matter 2.3%, ordinals #3

Top accounts mentioned or mentioned by @adam3us @giacomozucco @lukedashjr @stephanlivera @markofbitcoin @masanori_sha256 @kretchino @nvk @blank21m @reardencode @knutsvanholm @theonevortex @catotheelder17 @dathon_ohm @mejoronada @bitcoinbombadil @venorusprime @canexbtc @bitmexresearch @ctbon5

Top assets mentioned Bitcoin (BTC)

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Top posts by engagements in the last [--] hours

"This is why I am a bitcoiner. This is why I was motivated to fight for Bitcoin. https://x.com/hodlonaut/status/2017537937433305533/video/1 https://x.com/hodlonaut/status/2017537937433305533/video/1"
X Link 2026-01-31T09:58Z 154.7K followers, 34K engagements

"No answer to whether or not the current divide and conflict was a PREDICTABLE result from forcing through 100k OP_RETURN. Because it WAS very predictable. Meaning Core IS responsible for BIP-110 even being a thing. The very questionable rationale of fighting spam by standardizing spam cannot (even with the most skillfull and technical mental gymnastics) outweigh the importance of avoiding broad social fracture and responses like we see now. https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2022232406787272955 https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2022232406787272955"
X Link 2026-02-13T08:52Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"I had a long talk with wise @giacomozucco today. And I am withdrawing my support for BIP-110. I stand by A and B of this post. And partly C. Something is seriously off with Bitcoin Core. And they are imo fully responsible for the current social fracture. Arrogance woke politics disturbing physical centralization very poor ability to be responsible stewards of the reference implentation of Bitcoin. But I can no longer justify supporting BIP-110. I know the people pushing for it has the best intentions a strong principled base and a huge heart for Bitcoin. I respect that a lot. But I don't"
X Link 2026-02-13T12:21Z 154.7K followers, 121.1K engagements

"Two guys who care a lot about Bitcoin talk about BIP-110. Extreme trigger warning for innovative tech wizards and technical word-salad chefs. Pure and unfiltered pleb slop. By popular demand here it is My @BtcInfinityShow interview with the one and only Mr. @hodlonaut as you've never seen him before about his stance on BIP110 Make sure to like subscribe (on @fountain_app and elsewhere) comment and brush your teeth as per usual Enjoy https://t.co/ZpfneyII0I By popular demand here it is My @BtcInfinityShow interview with the one and only Mr. @hodlonaut as you've never seen him before about his"
X Link 2026-02-17T14:52Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"It would be good to know if the risk of BIP-110 freezing funds is largely theoretical or something that would actually affect real life users. It is one of the things that give me pause"
X Link 2026-02-17T15:56Z 154.7K followers, 11.6K engagements

"@longwayup_ @adam3us @FractalEncrypt Yeah. Proof of woke politics inside Core is so trivial"
X Link 2026-02-18T15:26Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"That doesnt make your claim any more correct though. You have said yourself that the op_return cap raise didnt really matter. So how can you say uncapping it in the face of great controversy thus predictably creating the current civil war conservative security first approach You cant. https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2024156405373055183 https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2024156405373055183"
X Link 2026-02-18T16:17Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"1. now or never. I still dont see that this is true. But it could well be as a result of the momentum already behind [---] and the difficulty or impossibility of re-mounting another stand. [--]. Csam fatal. Not agreeing to this. Agreeing it would be a blow disgusting and work against adoption and some node runners. I understand you see it this way though. [--]. governance. Considering status quo core governance Im increasingly not seeing this as an issue. I agree nodes/community must consent. [--]. loss of funds. I agree it is VERY overstated (which is a red flag) and considering [--] year expiry it"
X Link 2026-02-18T17:59Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"You know what would be REALLY bad for Bitcoin If everyone blindly trusted a centralized dev team bent to appeals to authority and willfully ignored gigantic red flags. If no one defended Bitcoins core principles and ethos. That would be REALLY bad for Bitcoin. As in a death sentence for the mission of separating state and money"
X Link 2026-02-12T07:58Z 154.7K followers, 20.4K engagements

"Where do you stand right now Bitcoin Core pre v30 Bitcoin Core v30 Bitcoin Knots BIP-110 Bitcoin Knots Bitcoin Core pre v30 Bitcoin Core v30 Bitcoin Knots BIP-110 Bitcoin Knots"
X Link 2026-02-12T11:38Z 154.7K followers, 56.4K engagements

"@Pledditor @giacomozucco I believe Luke and Mechanic have the best intentions and a huge heart for Bitcoin"
X Link 2026-02-13T14:24Z 154.7K followers, 20.4K engagements

"Do you really think Knots/BIP-110 is an attack on Bitcoin @adam3us A bigger one than Ordinals even Wanting to stop spam and grift on Bitcoin is a bigger attack on Bitcoin than spammers and grifters exploiting a segwit/taproot hack to fill the chain with JPEGs Are you for real https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2023096881534923005 https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2023096881534923005"
X Link 2026-02-15T18:07Z 154.7K followers, 39.5K engagements

"4 hours left of this poll [----] votes. 19% stand behind Core v30 49% stand behind BIP-110 Kinda drives home that Core are responsible for the current deep divide by arrogantly forcing through the OP_RETURN uncap despite broad controversy. Irresponsible af. Where do you stand right now Where do you stand right now"
X Link 2026-02-17T07:19Z 154.7K followers, 29.2K engagements

"@Pledditor precious mindshare of our best developers and builders You mean the very well paid core devs working in centralized offices Or the bUiLdeRs finding new ways to enrich themself by putting spam on the chain"
X Link 2026-02-18T11:14Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"Death by a thousand merges. We cant let that happen to Bitcoin"
X Link 2026-02-18T11:44Z 154.7K followers, 13.8K engagements

"@adam3us @FractalEncrypt Heres a bad merge"
X Link 2026-02-18T14:47Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@_pretyflaco @adam3us @FractalEncrypt I seriously STRONGLY believe this is worth bringing up"
X Link 2026-02-18T18:00Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"Is one of the main arguments against bip-110 that not enough people support it Would some of the reckless and dangerous criticism go away if support was much higher And would that criticism then deservedly go towards Core and v30 instead"
X Link 2026-02-08T21:58Z 154.7K followers, 25.3K engagements

"Core started this very predictable and dangerous drama. Let there be no doubt about it"
X Link 2026-02-10T11:05Z 154.7K followers, 17.7K engagements

"@devilninja7777 Extremely unnecessary. Great job Core"
X Link 2026-02-11T16:24Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@kjeldahl Hvis du skal vre Bcash reply guy s blir det block. Fair warning"
X Link 2026-02-12T14:16Z 154.7K followers, [--] engagements

"@kjeldahl Du nevnte det nemlig her ogs. Men da er det alts sagt. Mer bcash shilling i mine replies er block. No hard feelings. https://x.com/kjeldahl/status/2021943866803503433s=20 @hodlonaut BCH. https://x.com/kjeldahl/status/2021943866803503433s=20 @hodlonaut BCH"
X Link 2026-02-12T14:27Z 154.7K followers, [--] engagements

"Want bad faith Here is bad faith. The social attack against Bitcoin Core is obvious and resembles prior attacks carried out by grifter altcoin people. The social attack against Bitcoin Core is obvious and resembles prior attacks carried out by grifter altcoin people"
X Link 2026-02-12T14:47Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@adam3us This whole thing started (and very predictably)with core arrogantly pushing a very controversial change so weird to use the consensus argument. I know the people pushing for it are principled and well meaning bitcoiners so calling them a lynch mob is also not precise or fair"
X Link 2026-02-15T18:52Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"Maybe. But. BIP-110 opposition seems to be greed- and grift-driven. Bitcoin requires resistance to grifters. 🤷♂ BIP [---] is emotionally driven. Bitcoin requires logic and patience. BIP [---] is emotionally driven. Bitcoin requires logic and patience"
X Link 2026-02-17T15:30Z 154.7K followers, 14.7K engagements

"Can someone ask Udi if he supports BIP-110 He has me blocked. Udi and his JPEG salesmen friends have prepared no less than [----] cat JPEGs they want to sell for [---] BTC each. [---] BTC for a cat JPEG. [---] BTC total. Judging by how hard Udi is shilling them he is pretty excited. Remember: he is doing this to save bitcoin from the maxis🙏 https://t.co/xBRjjUyaye Udi and his JPEG salesmen friends have prepared no less than [----] cat JPEGs they want to sell for [---] BTC each. [---] BTC for a cat JPEG. [---] BTC total. Judging by how hard Udi is shilling them he is pretty excited. Remember: he is doing"
X Link 2026-02-18T09:22Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@w_s_bitcoin You have to be pretty fucking stupid to field this argument. I came back to X to post about bip-110 to earn $30 bucks monthly from shared ad revenue 😂🤡"
X Link 2026-02-18T16:41Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@Scavacini777 Maybe bitcoin cant succeed if a critical mass remains neutral instead of fighting for it"
X Link 2026-02-18T18:05Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"The official story on 9/11 is as believable as CSW being Satoshi"
X Link 2018-09-12T15:19Z 154.7K followers, [--] engagements

"Holy shit Someone just donated [---] BTC to the Bitcoin For Truckers fundraiser. 👀🔥"
X Link 2022-02-06T16:02Z 154.8K followers, [----] engagements

"New Zealand police eye gouging people for their health https://t.co/JHa2NaDZA7 https://t.co/JHa2NaDZA7"
X Link 2022-02-21T22:24Z 154.8K followers, [----] engagements

"I just received word that Craig Wright has discontinued all parts of his UK libel proceedings against me. Meaning it's OVER. I just got my life back. I'm so extremely happy right now Thank you to everyone who has supported me 🧡"
X Link 2024-05-03T16:11Z 154.8K followers, 443.6K engagements

"Bitcoin just passed One Million Norwegian Kroner 🚀"
X Link 2024-11-13T14:34Z 154.8K followers, 41.9K engagements

"Bitcoin has reached escape velocity. The glorious era of us plebs fighting important fights for bitcoin is largely behind us. As we march towards inevitable hyperbitcoinization the normiefication of the space is equally inevitable. For good and for bad. I dont have a big appetite anymore for price talk calling out shitcoin scammer #2274 and general circle jerking so I have lately beenand will remain going forwardpretty quiet on this account. I dont think I have much more to contribute to bitcoin that others dont do far better than me. Its been real 🫡🧡"
X Link 2025-02-18T16:43Z 154.7K followers, 271.5K engagements

"@adam3us v30 change makes large and simple data embedding more accessible indirectly lowering the barrier for NFT/inscription-style activity. Pruning doesnt help for IBD. Why risk this bloat Why facilitate this behavior"
X Link 2026-01-25T10:36Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@knutsvanholm What about the Bitcoin plebs never mattered Or UASF was not a pleb revolt"
X Link 2026-01-29T10:41Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"14 people reviewed and approved (acked) the HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL uncap of OP_RETURN. [----] people are already running BIP-110. Core pushed a change fully incompatible with Bitcoins philosophical soul that would very predictably fracture the social layer. They dont represent bitcoiners anymore. https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2018732444783083937 https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2018732444783083937"
X Link 2026-02-03T17:04Z 154.8K followers, 46.7K engagements

""The integrity of sound money is of highest importance for the prosperity of human civilisation. History is our witness." https://www.citadel21.com/the-sovereign-dream https://www.citadel21.com/the-sovereign-dream"
X Link 2026-02-05T10:45Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"I am one of these stupid Cat/Racoon/Frog/Dinosaur pictures on Twitter that Tone keeps shitting on. One of the "Knots Ideological crazies". I was also one of the many plebs who very vocally warned about Craig Wright and BSV back in 2018/2019 and I was unlucky enough to get targeted and take the full brunt of lawfare and harassment over a five year period for speaking the obvious truth out loud. What was Tone doing He was doing fluff interviews and posing for selfies with Craig like it was all a fun and relative little joke. This is how principles or lack of them translates into words and"
X Link 2026-02-05T12:46Z 154.7K followers, 40.8K engagements

""Stay vigilant. Stay radical. Stay true to yourself. As the world is grinding to a halt and the fall of Rome becomes more likely than ever strong characters sound principles and truthful conduct are imperative. The stage is set the drama is unfolding and as the crescendo comes we must not give in to tyranny. The path will be twisted and bumpy and Im honored to walk it to the end with you on my side. We got this." https://www.citadel21.com/dear-bitcoiners-an-optimistic-letter https://www.citadel21.com/dear-bitcoiners-an-optimistic-letter"
X Link 2026-02-06T08:22Z 154.7K followers, 18.2K engagements

"I have been waiting for @adam3us to clarify if he actually visited Epstein's island in [----] and if so what was the reason for doing so. Epstein wasn't just another investor. He was a pedophile monster responsible for acts of evil beyond comprehension. When emails like this come out the only option is full transparency considering Adam's standing. Lots of people (including me) have always trusted and admired his integrity and work. Are the emails fake Come out and say it. Is Andy Back another person Come out and say it. Was the visit real Come out and say it and explain what happened there."
X Link 2026-02-06T15:44Z 154.8K followers, 76.1K engagements

"Ill translate. BIP-110 ends the grift party and signals that bitcoin is MONEY. Not sure if yall been watching or not but if bip110 goes live you will no longer be able to get inscriptions mined. Not sure if yall been watching or not but if bip110 goes live you will no longer be able to get inscriptions mined"
X Link 2026-02-07T07:37Z 154.7K followers, 18.7K engagements

"If released Epstein emails said I was on Epsteins island but it wasnt true .I would make damn sure to release a statement saying I WASNT on the island alongside any and all documentation that the claims in the emails were false. Any other approach makes zero sense to me. Sorry"
X Link 2026-02-08T10:48Z 154.6K followers, 14K engagements

"@benthecarman Where does bip-110 claim to stop data embedding AFAIK it claims to clearly signal that Bitcoin's priority is being the world's best money not data storage"
X Link 2026-02-08T22:39Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@benthecarman Principles is not virtue signaling. Bitcoin is built on principles. Without principles neither humanity nor Bitcoin has any value. Using virtue signaling towards people who believe in something deep down is a very strange thing to do"
X Link 2026-02-08T22:53Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@benthecarman It would literally take [--] day for all the inscription protocols to continue working on a bip-110 chain @GrassFedBitcoin @LukeDashjr Is this accurate"
X Link 2026-02-08T23:11Z 154.6K followers, 14.3K engagements

"@GrassFedBitcoin @benthecarman @LukeDashjr Are you agreeing that it in fact is just signaling principles then"
X Link 2026-02-08T23:16Z 154.6K followers, [----] engagements

"@adam3us @benthecarman @GrassFedBitcoin @LukeDashjr @peterktodd Do you disagree with mechanic here @hodlonaut @benthecarman @LukeDashjr It's specifically to make large amounts of contiguous data impossible. It came off the back off a PortlandHodl idea at countering poison blocks. It breaks a bunch of scammer stuff that Ben does creating hassle for them as a bonus but more importantly the larger semi-legit "use @hodlonaut @benthecarman @LukeDashjr It's specifically to make large amounts of contiguous data impossible. It came off the back off a PortlandHodl idea at countering poison blocks. It"
X Link 2026-02-09T09:00Z 154.6K followers, [----] engagements

"@adam3us Thing is opening new ways to spam (even opening the door FAR wider than necessary for the stated goal) isnt signaling that harm reduction narrative or not"
X Link 2026-02-09T09:21Z 154.6K followers, [----] engagements

"@adam3us Why 100k Why not far less And my apologies for being on a much needed mental vacation from bitcoin drama"
X Link 2026-02-09T09:54Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"A building owner suddenly removed the long-standing "no storage or littering in common areas" rule allowing tenants to dump huge amounts of junk in shared spaces. The reasoning "Some people threw trash in common areas in the nighttime anyways. " When responsible tenants organized to restore basic limits via a building vote the owner blasted them as "reckless vandals" "censoring waste freedom" and "threatening to split the building". "What is even trash" was also suddenly a point of debate"
X Link 2026-02-09T12:07Z 154.7K followers, 16.7K engagements

"Who was the reckless party Who is really responsible"
X Link 2026-02-09T12:24Z 154.7K followers, 18.6K engagements

"@tetsu_tamasi @Pumpsec I would hardly run a business accepting lightning payments if so"
X Link 2026-02-09T17:21Z 154.6K followers, [--] engagements

"No other Core release has divided and fractured the social layer like v30 has. Not even close. They dont even seem to consider that as problematic. 🤷♂ @hodlonaut Fun fact v30 had the fastest adoption of any release @hodlonaut Fun fact v30 had the fastest adoption of any release"
X Link 2026-02-10T06:55Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"The official narrative of v30 is about as believable as Epstein killing himself"
X Link 2026-02-10T11:07Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@BitMEXResearch I never disliked core developers until I saw Glorias interview with Peter McCormack"
X Link 2026-02-10T11:35Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"None of what you say gets rid of the fact that v30 sparked a VERY PREDICTABLE and UNPRECEDENTED immune reaction among node runners plebs and principled bitcoiners. It should never have been merged until AFTER this was adequately explained and understood if it is really is so rational. This places the responsibily for the current predicament FIRMLY on Core"
X Link 2026-02-10T11:50Z 154.8K followers, [----] engagements

"Core has a duty to be responsible stewards and code maintainers. That includes responsible attitude towards how changes will resonate on all surfaces including the social. It doesn't matter how many debates happened inside the ivory tower if it hasn't been adequately explained and understood among the people who are willing to put everything on the line for bitcoin's principles. https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2021191056801292438 https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2021191056801292438"
X Link 2026-02-10T11:54Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@OwenKemeys Are you misunderstanding me on purpose Im talking about the deep fracture in the social layer not spam"
X Link 2026-02-10T13:37Z 154.6K followers, [--] engagements

"@letras341 You are an idiot sir"
X Link 2026-02-10T13:41Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"👀 @ColorCombos @LukeDashjr @BitcoinIsSaving @EddartMr @mynodebtc @LarryRuane @VVRekt14 @unitimpulse @nvk @brian_trollz @peterktodd @jack if you find yourself contradicting luke it's useful to think very very carefully if you are misunderstanding something. (from prior experience) he's typically right. @ColorCombos @LukeDashjr @BitcoinIsSaving @EddartMr @mynodebtc @LarryRuane @VVRekt14 @unitimpulse @nvk @brian_trollz @peterktodd @jack if you find yourself contradicting luke it's useful to think very very carefully if you are misunderstanding something. (from prior experience) he's typically"
X Link 2026-02-10T20:04Z 154.7K followers, 10.2K engagements

"@francispouliot_ I would love to hear your take on retardation"
X Link 2026-02-10T21:10Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@adam3us @Jethroe111 Its actually disgusting to see you call this virtue signaling"
X Link 2026-02-10T21:35Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"A new label on people who now distrust Core and dont agree with their direction appears They are checks notesjust insincere people who do pure performative misunderstanding Adding that to: Pleb slop Virtue signaler Woke Non-technical The arrogance of these people @hodlonaut @Jethroe111 @ShmoVan @adam3us @LukeDashjr Exactly 100% accurate - that's why people like Vortex are still engaging tirelessly presenting data and facts that are over a year old in the face of what at this point must be purely performative misunderstanding. @hodlonaut @Jethroe111 @ShmoVan @adam3us @LukeDashjr Exactly 100%"
X Link 2026-02-10T21:44Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"It feels like the plebs are back"
X Link 2026-02-10T21:58Z 154.7K followers, 14.8K engagements

"Independent minded people who dont bend to peer pressure used to be considered a feature not a bug. Core v30 changed that for some reason. .@LukeDashjr has definitely helped Bitcoin and shown general immunity to peer pressure - strongly independent minded. Those are very useful traits for an independent developer. I'm glad he does what he does and hope people support him. Bitcoin owes him a debt for work on UASF. .@LukeDashjr has definitely helped Bitcoin and shown general immunity to peer pressure - strongly independent minded. Those are very useful traits for an independent developer. I'm"
X Link 2026-02-11T08:58Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@Bitcoin_Murern There is no chill in corporate. Shills though"
X Link 2026-02-11T09:03Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"Cute that some bch and bsv retards are still around somehow thinking the current btc drama will magically reanimate the decomposed corpses of their failed and dishonest projects 😂"
X Link 2026-02-11T09:08Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"Something is very very wrong with Core governance. - the OP_RETURN uncap had 4:1 vote ratio AGAINST the change on github. - Knots adoption has exploded since. - BIP-100 signaling is at 7% and rising. - Price is down 40% since v30 release. - Very prominent voices spoke out against it: Nick Szabo Giacomo Zucco Samson Mow Jimmy Song Luke Dashjr and many others. - PR to restore the limits was still rejected because "The debate is settled". Link: https://melvin.me/public/articles/opreturn.html#governance https://melvin.me/public/articles/opreturn.html#governance"
X Link 2026-02-11T10:58Z 154.7K followers, 37.2K engagements

"@separ8 To me its more the lack of responsibility tbh. The backlash was very predictable. And even when it happens and keeps worsening there seems to be zero impulse or interest in self criticism or humility"
X Link 2026-02-11T12:58Z 154.8K followers, [----] engagements

"@BitMEXResearch @giacomozucco It doesn't really matter to you if the social layer fractured and bitcoin dumps 40% and all trust is lost in the dev team of the reference implementation"
X Link 2026-02-11T14:38Z 154.6K followers, [---] engagements

"Core can handwave and ignore their responsibility for creating this response as much as they want. But it's here and it's gaining momentum"
X Link 2026-02-11T14:51Z 154.7K followers, 12.7K engagements

"For me personally Knots is now the reference implentation of Bitcoin"
X Link 2026-02-11T15:12Z 154.7K followers, 25.5K engagements

"Rarely have I seen such attention anger and outrage over something they at the same time claim is completely irrelevant laughable and bound to fail as from uncapped OP_RETURN enjoyers and Core apologists towards BIP-110. Really quite the phenomenon to watch unfold"
X Link 2026-02-11T16:19Z 154.6K followers, [----] engagements

"@BitMEXResearch Since you keep pretending to not understand my position day after day maybe its time for me to mute soon Core recklessly and arrogantly pushed through a very controversial merge. That very predictably created the mess we are in. They dont have my trust at all anymore"
X Link 2026-02-11T16:22Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@murchandamus @coinjoined Yeah. Bip-100 was totally not a typo. I THINK it's bip-100. Great and honest take"
X Link 2026-02-11T21:21Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@ICOffenderII Its a laxative for bitcoin when it merged too much fiat grift"
X Link 2026-02-11T21:44Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@Spartanze4o If you see bitcoin as money and want it to remain that way yes. Core lost the plot with v30 and I dont trust them anymore. DYOR. https://melvin.me/public/articles/opreturn.html https://melvin.me/public/articles/opreturn.html"
X Link 2026-02-11T22:15Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@grok @Spartanze4o In fact more than 7% of nodes signal support. DYOR"
X Link 2026-02-12T06:19Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@1914ad The ball really is in Cores court"
X Link 2026-02-12T06:25Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@Croesus_BTC @real_vijay @giacomozucco @francispouliot_ @NickSzabo4 Hope youre doing good Jesse Thanks for writing this it remains the BY FAR most read article in Citadel21 history. https://www.citadel21.com/why-the-yuppie-elite-dismiss-bitcoin https://www.citadel21.com/why-the-yuppie-elite-dismiss-bitcoin"
X Link 2026-02-12T06:35Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@spoonmvn 🤝"
X Link 2026-02-12T08:03Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@iohewifh5934 causing a stink Is that code words for calling out gigantic red flags and the apparent departure from the ethos Ive been a part of for [--] years and what brought me here in the first place"
X Link 2026-02-12T08:19Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@iohewifh5934 - Rushing the uncapping of OP_RETURN thus creating this whole mess. - relativizing spam (what is spam) - Citrea debacle - woke politics - extreme arrogance and handwaving in the face of heartfelt concern from many respected bitcoiners Need more red flags"
X Link 2026-02-12T08:25Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@occceno Explain the Epstein link attack Also try to look at it less like core vs Luke. I am only running bip-110 because core refuses to course correct at all and there is currently no better way to take a stand against it"
X Link 2026-02-12T08:35Z 154.8K followers, [---] engagements

"@1914ad @sodiumbtc21 Just to add another experience. I fully synced a knots bip-110 node in around [--] hours just a few days ago. [--] year old laptop with SSD"
X Link 2026-02-12T08:53Z 154.6K followers, [---] engagements

"@occceno Who knows Im definitely not saying it was. The Adam/Epstein situation has no bearing on my views on Core"
X Link 2026-02-12T09:08Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@BitcoinMooky Rational 🤝"
X Link 2026-02-12T09:18Z 154.7K followers, [--] engagements

"@BTC_for_Freedom When the current drama is over and Bitcoin has been reestablished as a decentralized project of separating state and money as opposed to catering for grifters it will pump beyond imagination"
X Link 2026-02-12T09:51Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"Making a stand for Bitcoin principles you believe in is not clout seeking or virtue signaling and anyone who calls it that is probably morally compromised"
X Link 2026-02-12T10:44Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@Coinosphere @MayaPar25 Not sure if I get your point"
X Link 2026-02-12T12:02Z 154.8K followers, [---] engagements

"@Spartanze4o Trust me I've seen my fair share too. But I've also seen the power of good"
X Link 2026-02-12T12:32Z 154.8K followers, [--] engagements

"Bitcoin Core's stated standard: controversial changes require "rough consensus." Ava Chow (December 2023): "If it is controversial then we don't touch it." Gloria Zhao (June 2025): Merges the controversial OP_RETURN uncap anyway. Ava Chow (Later 2025): Rejects PR #34214 to restore limits because the debate is "settled." Where do you stand right now Where do you stand right now"
X Link 2026-02-12T13:58Z 154.8K followers, [----] engagements

"@btcballistics 🫡"
X Link 2026-02-12T16:11Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"Bitcoin Core says controversial changes require "rough consensus". Do they mean "rough" as in rough sex where the safe word gets ignored objections get gagged and afterward they still call it consensual because the Core clique felt good about it"
X Link 2026-02-12T16:32Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@PivotWithHer It wont though. If you dont have some ultra exotic setup with [---] keys"
X Link 2026-02-13T07:31Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@stephanlivera @brian_trollz @BitMEXResearch @MrHodl @BitcoinErrorLog @AaronvanW I would caveat this with saying that I am pro the best solution that makes a firm stand against the uncapping of op_return and the philosophical shift towards protocol development that caters for non-monetary use"
X Link 2026-02-13T07:32Z 154.8K followers, [---] engagements

"@stephanlivera Giacomo pretty much share my stand. They core is responsible for bip-110 being here in the first place. And they keep doubling down on handwaving and arrogance"
X Link 2026-02-13T07:34Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@PivotWithHer @unchained Very much so"
X Link 2026-02-13T07:36Z 154.7K followers, [--] engagements

"@PivotWithHer @unchained I feel you 😅"
X Link 2026-02-13T07:43Z 154.7K followers, [--] engagements

"Did you read my other answer. You are omitting the fact that he is very much putting the responsibility on Core and that he thinks they are acting crazy. I have repeatedly said that is my main gripe but I ALSO support bip-110 not because I think its perfect but because I feel strongly that a stand has to be made against a developer group that imo isnt acting responsibly at all"
X Link 2026-02-13T07:49Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"I could reframe trying to ram thru a contentious change to trying to reestablish that Bitcoin is money not data storage. It would sound better. But again the main thing for me is that Core arrogantly merged a controversial change and a course that does not have any level of consensus among users and that very predictably has led us here"
X Link 2026-02-13T07:57Z 154.6K followers, [---] engagements

"@stephanlivera I guess it was meant in the non-technical way. Sorry"
X Link 2026-02-13T08:00Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"Apart from the coretard and rogue shitcoiner part I support this message. Core can bridge the divide and solve this mess by recognizing that the OP_RETURN uncap was a mistake. Coretards have the ability to make this division go away if they just stop and realize that a rogue shitcoiner fucked with our beloved Bitcoin without broad consensus. They can start by removing v30 from their available downloads. This would be a start. Then they should Coretards have the ability to make this division go away if they just stop and realize that a rogue shitcoiner fucked with our beloved Bitcoin without"
X Link 2026-02-13T08:16Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

""Bitcoin Core increasingly resembles an institution living on accumulated credibility rather than present-day discipline. And like many such institutions it may be the last to recognize when that credibility has been exhausted." @HODLingOnward @hodlonaut @ToneVays @theonevortex The real crux for me: After listening to the @BitMEXResearch panel debate I realized Cores whole framing was topsy-turvy. The real threat is twofold: [--]. The slow insidious cultural shift via the reappropriation of definitions. Core developers and their defenders appear @HODLingOnward @hodlonaut @ToneVays @theonevortex"
X Link 2026-02-13T09:02Z 154.8K followers, [----] engagements

"BIP-110 momentum increasing every day. Does Core think it will just go away like a bad dream BIP148 UASF momentum increasing every day. Does @JihanWu think it will just go away like a bad dream BIP148 UASF momentum increasing every day. Does @JihanWu think it will just go away like a bad dream"
X Link 2026-02-13T09:12Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@soloyopee This is from May 13th a month before it was merged. Still 4:1 Totally not controversial"
X Link 2026-02-13T09:38Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@THBitcoinBuddha Where is me "pedo-talking" Adam You keep using the hate term but can't show any examples of me hating This is getting stupid no"
X Link 2026-02-13T09:52Z 154.7K followers, [--] engagements

"@stephanlivera This is the PR one month before the merge. 4x more negative sentiment than positive. Not predictable https://web.archive.org/web/20250513175516/https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32359 https://web.archive.org/web/20250513175516/https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32359"
X Link 2026-02-13T10:09Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@stephanlivera You are saying a firm response wasn't expected when such controversy is pushed through I would have been amazed if there was no reaction like BIP-110 resulting from Core's behavior. It's almost like you're new here with these takes"
X Link 2026-02-13T10:18Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@stephanlivera I think it was very predictable. Very. The "pretending it's not contentious" part is not shared by me and not very relevant. My point is Core made this happen and they keep doubling down on arrogance"
X Link 2026-02-13T10:28Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@BitcoinBombadil I hope it came across that I respect any bitcoiner that fights for principles the best way thay see how 🫡"
X Link 2026-02-13T13:15Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@venorusprime @giacomozucco I can post more about this later but its mostly that I dont think miners will support it and that it has high risk of creating a fork with low support"
X Link 2026-02-13T13:27Z 154.8K followers, 10.2K engagements

"@mejoronada @BitcoinBombadil Dont follow idols indeed. DYOR and follow your convictions 🤝"
X Link 2026-02-13T13:28Z 154.8K followers, [----] engagements

"Of course I would want all miners to support principled resistance against Core's overreach that's why I backed BIP-110 initially. But wanting something doesn't make it realistic or viable. Without strong hashrate backing it risks a messy fork that would permanently fracture Bitcoin and Bitcoiners. With none or minimal hashrate backing it discourages future pushback. https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2022305199113556106 https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2022305199113556106"
X Link 2026-02-13T13:41Z 154.8K followers, [----] engagements

"@Pledditor @giacomozucco I dont understand why you have to frame it like they are not honorable in their words and actions"
X Link 2026-02-13T14:50Z 154.8K followers, [----] engagements

"@CatoTheElder17 My words shouldnt matter but for what its worth Im not one to bend to pressure quite the opposite"
X Link 2026-02-13T14:56Z 154.8K followers, [----] engagements

"Because of evil little fucks like this guy along with Kurt Wuckert and the BSV gang lying and twisting narratives I made sure to never be in control of any funds raised to make me capable of defending myself against Craig Wright. They were held by opensats and my lawyers had to apply for each invoice to be paid. The screenshot is from one month before the trial in Norway and the suggestion from fractal never even happened. Just sad to see that such bitter and very small haters even exist. 🤮🤡 https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2022334789987045825"
X Link 2026-02-13T15:39Z 154.8K followers, [----] engagements

"@CTBon5 @giacomozucco I would be happy to join a space at some point. It really wasnt that big of a pivot though. Ive been clear all along that my main thing was anger and distrust against core not full conviction on bip-110"
X Link 2026-02-13T15:41Z 154.8K followers, [----] engagements

"@CTBon5 @giacomozucco Thank you. Yes I can handle it. Yes fuck Tone Vays. 😁"
X Link 2026-02-13T16:06Z 154.8K followers, [----] engagements

"@giacomozucco @nakadai_mon Not once has Giacomo tried to make me change my mind. I respect that a lot. Also its the best way to make me change my mind"
X Link 2026-02-13T16:12Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@snapolino @paperhands360 @BitcoinBombadil Actually did that a few days ago. I was surprised how fast it was but would have been another story without ssd and 16gb ram probably @1914ad @sodiumbtc21 Just to add another experience. I fully synced a knots bip-110 node in around [--] hours just a few days ago. [--] year old laptop with SSD. @1914ad @sodiumbtc21 Just to add another experience. I fully synced a knots bip-110 node in around [--] hours just a few days ago. [--] year old laptop with SSD"
X Link 2026-02-13T16:24Z 154.7K followers, [--] engagements

"@mejoronada @LukeDashjr @CatoTheElder17 @Holdonaut @giacomozucco This was [--] days ago. I have several times clearly stated that I was not convinced about bip-110. I was and still am convinced that Core have acted very arrogantly recklessly and unwise and are responsible for the counteraction"
X Link 2026-02-13T19:56Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"3 days ago I said I was not convinced BIP-110 is the best countermove to Core behavior. [--] day ago I posted @ndeet's very thoughtful and balanced take on BIP-110 (He does not support it) It's not like things have changed massively. It's weird to see all the you're either with us or against us mentality. My mistake was letting my emotions (anger at Core and alarm at all the red flags of the v30 process) tempt me into prematurely supporting BIP-110 instead of just opposing Core. I'm sorry about that. Still angry at Core and the red flags still stand btw"
X Link 2026-02-13T20:04Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"Still is For me personally Knots is now the reference implentation of Bitcoin. For me personally Knots is now the reference implentation of Bitcoin"
X Link 2026-02-13T20:10Z 154.8K followers, [----] engagements

"@Pledditor @giacomozucco Who are the leaders that openly admitted this"
X Link 2026-02-13T20:15Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@venorusprime @giacomozucco What can I say How do I advocate for greedy miners without principles to start signaling for bip-110 It feels like something firmly outside of my control"
X Link 2026-02-13T20:58Z 154.8K followers, [----] engagements

"@CatoTheElder17 @LukeDashjr @giacomozucco @mejoronada @Holdonaut Any meaningful level of miner support would make me reconsider"
X Link 2026-02-13T20:59Z 154.8K followers, [----] engagements

"@eric_b_hodln @ndeet I will talk to Knut about all of this on his podcast tomorrow"
X Link 2026-02-14T09:43Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@GrassFedBitcoin Very good video. I am going to talk to Knut on his pod about all of this in depth tomorrow"
X Link 2026-02-14T10:23Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"Which is why I apologized for it. Truth is I am very torn on this. My mistake was to emotionally support something too hard before I had solid enough understanding of all of it. Caused by my absence and horror of returning to a rogue Core. I will talk honestly about all of this on knuts pod tomorrow"
X Link 2026-02-14T11:14Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"I understand how it looked. And I deserve the ridicule. I am just a guy who wants to do the right thing. Im always open to changing my mind. I will have a very honest and open talk with Knut on his pod tomorrow about where I stand and what caused me to jump into conclusions support retract support and still be in doubt of what is right. https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2022632198289977772 https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2022632198289977772"
X Link 2026-02-14T11:21Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@BitcoinMania___ @walitysch1 @rektsorekt Impossible topic to avoid and both me and Knut firmly agree it is money"
X Link 2026-02-14T11:39Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@rektsorekt Immediately declaring people who disagree on something to be compromised is not fruitful or truthful"
X Link 2026-02-14T11:54Z 154.8K followers, [---] engagements

"@Jethroe111 @DonalDevine @Bitbello @udiWertheimer 🫡"
X Link 2026-02-14T11:56Z 154.8K followers, [---] engagements

"I never asked anyone to listen to me. I navigate with a different compass than you. I am obviously not completely ignorant to the game theory of miners following economical nodes. Seems like your compass is more than slightly out of whack these days. Maybe people shouldnt listen to you either"
X Link 2026-02-14T12:04Z 154.8K followers, [----] engagements

"@Brevsolution @Jethroe111 @DonalDevine @Bitbello @udiWertheimer @knutsvanholm 😁 Both Knut and Giacomo are wise and principled people"
X Link 2026-02-14T12:09Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"Fake citadel21 account please block and report https://x.com/citadel21csrks=21&t=DG1JEc-EXQnoc72Rmx9dOA https://x.com/citadel21csrks=21&t=DG1JEc-EXQnoc72Rmx9dOA"
X Link 2026-02-14T13:49Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@CTBon5 @knutsvanholm recording in a couple of hours No idea how fast Mr Knut is with dropping these"
X Link 2026-02-15T07:56Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@CTBon5 @knutsvanholm Hopefully it will have some value for some people I think me and Knut represent a certain cohort of bitcoiners pretty well"
X Link 2026-02-15T08:05Z 154.7K followers, [--] engagements

"@philip_dath How would that bitaxe find any blocks even all the blocks to get to difficulty readjustment (I do believe miners will follow nodes/economy when they HAVE TO)"
X Link 2026-02-15T08:21Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"This was [----]. Nothing has changed. The official story on 9/11 is as believable as CSW being Satoshi. The official story on 9/11 is as believable as CSW being Satoshi"
X Link 2026-02-15T16:34Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"Do you really think Knots/BIP-110 is a an attack on Bitcoin @adam3us A bigger one than Ordinals even Wanting to stop spam and grift on Bitcoin is a bigger attack on Bitcoin than spammers and grifters exploiting a segwit/taproot hack to fill the chain with JPEGs Are you for real https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2023094778167271865 https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2023094778167271865"
X Link 2026-02-15T17:59Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@kretchino @blank21M Stop with your tribalism and listen to Knuts pod when it drops tomorrow. You probably wouldnt write this after listening"
X Link 2026-02-15T18:00Z 154.7K followers, [--] engagements

"RT @knutsvanholm: Had a great chat with Mr. Cat today. Hopefully released tomorrow"
X Link 2026-02-15T18:53Z 154.8K followers, [--] engagements

"@SameeLiaei @knutsvanholm If you are curious on this you will have all your answers on the pod with Knut. Your questions are right to the core of what we discussed indepth"
X Link 2026-02-16T07:06Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"@aejkohl @adam3us Anything is possible and you are ofc free to theorize it but obviously there is no solid evidence pointing to that"
X Link 2026-02-16T10:11Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@jessebabies What is inaccurate in the post"
X Link 2026-02-17T12:13Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@BtcAndres @MrHodl If Marshall is correct then it didnt ofc"
X Link 2026-02-17T13:14Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@lukedewolf @MayaPar25 Love me some pleb slop"
X Link 2026-02-17T15:08Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@nvk Uhm. a fork is a chain split no How are they going to lose their coins from a chain split They now own coins on both chains"
X Link 2026-02-17T16:13Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@stephanlivera @KLoaec @nunchuk_io At least one or two people Got it"
X Link 2026-02-17T16:15Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@nakadai_mon V30 scored even lower on yours 👀"
X Link 2026-02-18T18:03Z 154.7K followers, [--] engagements

"Shit like this is just wild to me: Jimmy Song: "But isn't spam also harmful" Murch (Prominent Core contributor): "Not really no." How widespread is this view on spam in Bitcoin Core"
X Link 2026-02-09T11:50Z 154.7K followers, 22.4K engagements

"@nvk How are they losing their coins if there would be a fork"
X Link 2026-02-17T16:03Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@TheBoozles This is my current understanding too. And if its correct then the fud around it is a red flag"
X Link 2026-02-17T16:04Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@adam3us @nvk Stefan just said this maybe affects one or two users. We are going to use borderline theorycrafting mental gymnastics cases and use that as fud against bip-110"
X Link 2026-02-17T16:20Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"@mejoronada Thank you. Fully agreed except for the doubt expressed in the discussion about THIS being the hill we die on. It is definitely interesting how attention is being paid all of a sudden while at the same time ridiculing it and calling it dead in the water"
X Link 2026-02-18T06:50Z 154.7K followers, [--] engagements

"Bitcoin caught ordinals this year. What is ordinals you ask Its a pretty severe case of crypto a parasite with many similarities to fiat. Symptoms include congestion derangement grift and spontaneous word-salads. The good news is that the parasite is very short lived and will move on to a new host when it runs out of noobs to feed on"
X Link 2023-12-30T13:35Z 154.7K followers, 81K engagements

"Udi and his JPEG salesmen friends have prepared no less than [----] cat JPEGs they want to sell for [---] BTC each. [---] BTC for a cat JPEG. [---] BTC total. Judging by how hard Udi is shilling them he is pretty excited. Remember: he is doing this to save bitcoin from the maxis🙏"
X Link 2024-01-20T11:47Z 154.7K followers, 88.3K engagements

"Core v30 enabled this. No philosophical pivot my ass. Disgusting. 🤮 I am pivoting too. Will run Bip-110. Fuck the grifters. Bitcoin is money. Ok we're live on @citrea_xyz mainnet Time to prepare NFT collection launch 🍊 Ok we're live on @citrea_xyz mainnet Time to prepare NFT collection launch 🍊"
X Link 2026-01-28T18:42Z 154.7K followers, 53.1K engagements

"A) I think v30 the rationale the haste the circumstances the philosophical implications the arrogance the handwaving the disdain for broad community outrage and more shows beyond doubt that something is very wrong with Bitcoin Core and/or how it works right now. B) That means I am taking a stand against it C) This DOES NOT necessarily mean that I know for a fact BIP-110 is the best countermove but it DOES MEAN that I think some form of strong action has to be mustered against it if Core shows no willingness to accept they have acted recklessly and unwise and start working to remedy the"
X Link 2026-02-10T11:02Z 154.7K followers, 76.4K engagements

"@nvk Which plebs are going to lose coins and from what"
X Link 2026-02-17T16:02Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"RT @mattkratter: Great discussion between [--] Bitcoin legends-- check it out"
X Link 2026-02-18T15:10Z 154.7K followers, [--] engagements

"RT @knutsvanholm: Overwhelmed by all the positive responses to my chat with @hodlonaut on the @BtcInfinityShow. I was prepared for both of"
X Link 2026-02-18T18:56Z 154.7K followers, [--] engagements

"This is a very interesting case study MARA played stupid games and won a stupid prize. It turns out that miners can ignore nodes but they put themselves at great risk by doing so. @MARA https://t.co/sKDiMQMeZ4 MARA played stupid games and won a stupid prize. It turns out that miners can ignore nodes but they put themselves at great risk by doing so. @MARA https://t.co/sKDiMQMeZ4"
X Link 2026-02-17T07:24Z 154.7K followers, 10.3K engagements

"@adam3us Uncapping op_return created a civil war for no real gain. You call that conservative security first approach with a straight face"
X Link 2026-02-17T18:50Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"When I wrote this a couple of years ago never in my wildest dreams did I anticipate that Core would standardize functionality for this parasitic non-monetary use of Bitcoin. As in facilitating more of it and prolong and exaggerate this harmful grift while eroding Bitcoins mission as money NOT data storage. Bitcoin caught ordinals this year. What is ordinals you ask Its a pretty severe case of crypto a parasite with many similarities to fiat. Symptoms include congestion derangement grift and spontaneous word-salads. The good news is that the parasite is very short lived Bitcoin caught ordinals"
X Link 2026-02-18T11:09Z 154.7K followers, 22K engagements

"@BitcoinExplica I am against core because they have done a philosophical pivot and recklessly and arrogantly merged op_return uncap despite huge controversy predictably creating the current mess"
X Link 2026-02-18T11:37Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"I just found out Im critical to core just because they are woke and etc 🤷♂ @hodlonaut You are/were against core because they are woke and etc right Dont you think that over time youve basically trained your algorithm to favor showing you to people with similar views And meanwhile those with different perspectives either stopped following you or just @hodlonaut You are/were against core because they are woke and etc right Dont you think that over time youve basically trained your algorithm to favor showing you to people with similar views And meanwhile those with different perspectives either"
X Link 2026-02-18T11:38Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

"How many bip-110 supporters have a financial incentive for their stance How many bip-110 opposers have a financial incentive for their stance"
X Link 2026-02-18T14:55Z 154.7K followers, 29.5K engagements

"@orthodoxbitcoin [--]. It was a question not an argument [--]. Saying the answer is around 0% is ignorant af or dishonest [--]. Calling the worry about node cost a financial incentive and not wanting to keep Bitcoin decentralized is also either ignorant or dishonest"
X Link 2026-02-18T16:12Z 154.7K followers, [---] engagements

"Stop saying Im misleading people and vErgInG on bAd fAitH when Im transparently speaking my honest mind. This stance is the exact same Ive been speaking the last weeks. Core standardized and facilitated non monetary grift use of Bitcoin with v30. They arrogantly ignored great opposition and controversy even removing Luke And mechanics ability to participate in the discussion. They created this mess. Because me and many many other bitcoiners (who coincidentally havent been invested in all kinds of trash in the ecosystem) want Bitcoin to be money and signal that it is money. Your handwaving"
X Link 2026-02-18T20:42Z 154.7K followers, [----] engagements

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